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Kloppo:
There is a well travelled and half finnish guy who shares his experiences on nairaland travel section...

Finland POF is close to 7k euro and you must have been able to pay your school fees which is 6,000 euros on the average before you can be granted an RP,the good thing about Finland is that you can move with your family and kids as far as you can cater for them with proofs while you study whether for masters or bsc

Can u help with the guy's name make I check him thread up?

iamoyindamola:
I thought he was in Scotland too

I remembered one time like that last year expert confirmed himself he was in Scotland, maybe he moved sha.

akanbiaa:
What is your experience with FBN Insurance as contract marketer ? Is it advisable for someone whose family is far away and currently financially constrained to relocate for the sake of the job or manage where he is with family with little he gets from small paying jobs sufficient to at least feed family around ?

Please manage where u are for now. Relocating for an insurance marketing contract job is not advisable. U will be paid solely on what u make( except for little stipends which won't make any difference). It's actually difficult selling insurance to people in this right economy.

nihilistjnr:
Anyway na way baba mi

Just make sure you don't do a wack course at uni

What courses can be regarded as wack in the UK?

Itsrm:
This is what I think and what my plan is. Make una no laugh me sha, part of it may be out of ignorance. Just my wild thought.

I am married, I can afford the cost of relocating which is study visa for my wife and me the dependant plus POF for 9 months.

My wife can do 20 hours of work per week and I work as long as possible as the dependant. I understand a realistic cost of living monthly is about 1200 pounds monthly.

Now I'm very hardworking. I usually have no problems doing things people consider too difficult to do. Worst case scenario, assuming I'm unable to get a white collar job and I do a 10 pound/hour job, I can work 12 hours per day. That's roughly 3400 pounds per month. My wife earns 800 pounds per month. Total 4200 pounds . We are able to save 3000 pounds as a family monthly.

In 4 years( 2 years masters for her and 2 years post study) we have a savings of 144,000 pounds.

After 4 years, I'll switch to masters and she'll be the dependent which will allow us another 4 years of stay. She may not be able to work as hard as I worked. So let's say a modest 40 hours per week for her and 20 for me. This will give us another 67000 pounds in another four years. Add together, we have 211,000 pounds.

Assuming naira maintains it's current rate against the pound at 840 naira, that's 180m.

That's more than enough to live a good life back in Nigeria if we have no means of staying back in the UK.

I have checked job vacancies in the UK as it relates to what I do here in Nigeria and I should be able to slot into the job market without issues . The job need not give me sponsorship I don't care.
However, I'm working with a worst case scenario that we never get a good job and just do basic low wage jobs in 8 years.

If we get jobs with sponsorship, fine. If not, we come back to Nigeria better than we left.

Again, just my wild thoughts . Reality may be different from all of these

Bro in all of this,know thyself and know thy wife. I don't know if I may sound like a pessimist but try and measure the love shared between urself and Ur wife. I've heard cases of women being financially independent abroad and then deciding they want to divorce their hubby. I read a case of a woman after the husband had sacrificed for the family ( for her to get trained as a registered nurse) only for her to get good job at NHS and then part ways with him. The man murdered her cos he just couldn't bear the betrayal and was sent to jail for it.

I'm saying this because of the part where u said u will switch to masters after she complete hers and she will be the one earning more while u go on with Ur studies. Some women once they start providing for the household their loyalty/love gets tested.

Be sure u are both on the same page before going through with this Ur strategy.

Itsrm:
Remember the school fees can be paid with official pound to naira rate of a little over 500 naira.

But I heard Govt no dey give BTA/PTA again sef.... Is one not going to be sourcing pounds at the black market rate?

iamoyindamola:
I never for once like that Great Britain countries
According to my brother, what ever money you are making there is surely going back there one way or the other
You can't carry there money go spend outside
I am eyeing Norway, Iceland, Malta and Azerbaijan as my job is majorly remote

I don't malta is that prosperous economically, and I don't think English is spoken in Azerbaijan like dem Sweden, Norway, Finland and co... I may be wrong tho

Singapore1:
Canada cost way less on the long run than UK. UK is just straightforward

leave your POF for 30 days and receive visa

Yeah, I know Canada is cheaper and comes with PR, na just say person gats get the money on ground to sustain when he reach there at least before he get job and most times that money no dey cash on ground when travelling

Ibime:
My advise to Nigerians is to prioritise Canada over UK

UK is still big on accent except you are in the medical field or maybe IT where they have little choice. Most Nigerians cannot speak with a passable Western accent after couple years study and that does harm job prospects in the UK. Canada/Yankee has less of a class structure and more used to immigration and different ways of speaking, plus their accent is easier to pickup.

I think Canada costs more when going, that's why people are trooping to UK cos of the initial capital outlay ( pay part school fees, Japa first and then enter the system begin rough am)

Most people going through the UK study visa route don't have the full cash on ground.

What do u think of Scandinavian countries like Finland?

Nezzjnr:
Expert17 you dey Ireland ryt

I think he's in Scotland

larride:
Lol. The same way Assu is on strike now majorly because they want to dictate the terms of their engagement to their employees, they want autonomy and still want the FG to fund it. ASSU annual salary is around 246bn and they want the FG to double the salary for them taking their salary to about 490bn annually. That's half a trillion naira every year for ASUU alone. Let's even talk of recurrent expenditure of the Presidency with salaries and others benefits. For last 2021, their personnel cost was 1.7bn while ASUU gulps 249bn. Let's scrap salaries and wages for the Presidency (including aides and all other appointees), what we will save is 1.7bn

The same way NDDC staff are currently protesting because of personnel audit.

The same way NUEE shut down the national grid because they don't want to write promotional exams. They practically plunge the whole nation into darkness because they dont want to write exam before promotion.

In last year budget alone, recurrent expenditure (Salaries, wages, pension and gratuities) to MDAs alone is 3.7 trillion out of a 13 trillion budget.

The Nigeria Army personnel cost alone is over 400bn annually.

But make we talk true cutting cost of governance

nihilistjnr:
When we say jakpa, and one fool starts vomiting nonsense about all of us cannot jakpa, I will show this to that person.

Anybody who is a qualified professional should working hard to escape Nigeria post-haste

But what do u think about this UK student visa route of immigration? Do u see Nigerians having to make do with low paying jobs if thy are unfortunate to get good jobs due to lack of sponsors after their studies?

The thing come be like say na una wey move early 2000's, dem Ibime's really move well.

iamoyindamola:
Segedinho this is what i was saying about the 2 extra years grace for UK


https://www.nairaland.com/7273177/jakpa-advise-think-critically

This is why I dey look that UK student visa Japa route with one corner eye. Most times when I sit in my quite time I do imagine what UK will look like in 2 to 3 years time when most people must have been through with their Masters and everyone will be job hunting.

Will the UK Labour market be ready to absorb many Nigerians who by then will be carrying a UK masters degree after spelling cars and other properties back here to facilitate the degree program?

What will be the fate of those who will be unfortunate to land jobs? ( Because definitely the competition will be rife between Nigerians, graduates of other African countries who went to the UK for the same purpose and UK citizens with British passports)

It's looking like the system was designed to make as much money for the UK economy and u are left to Ur own fate to sort things out.....Literally " GO HARD OR GO HOME"

As I dey I dey reason Scandinavian countries like Finland and co but I don't know much about their immigration paroles and moving with family and stuff. Then I don't know how receptive to a blackman in those places and how prosperous they are economically sha

BlueMann:
9 points from three games, Omo our falconets are really doing well

Nigeria has always done well at age-grade competitions(both the male and the female), our problem has always been that those players don't later end up being the big stars we hope they will be when they become of age. Only God knows why

I just watched a video of Wike saying they run " Jesus economy" in Rivers state. He said people ask where the money they use to execute projects have been coming from but he told them they run " Jesus economy" cos Jesus fed 5,000 people with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fishes....

The day an entirely different/new party wins the governorship election in Rivers state is the day people of the state will know these guys have stolen billions from that state from Odili to Amaechi to Wike.

larride:
Most times strike is used as a blackmailing tool to force the hand of govt to their demand because the unions know that govt will automatically take the blame whatever happens.

You may not be far from the truth, but successive governments too have not helped matters. Some reckless and unnecessary government spendings too give these people impetus to make such demands on the government.

Someone was saying a senior lecturer earns ₦220k while Someone like Bashir Ahmed the twitter guy gets paid ₦800k plus. Stuff like this make people agitate and make demands on government even when the goverment says it can't afford to pay higher. I think cost of governance is unnecessarily too high in this part of the world. So these people will just blackmail the government into shifting ground or paint the government bad in the eyes of the people

GloriousGbola:
This is my take.

TCN will lose relevance if the power bill goes into effect. So there may be retrenchments etal.

If you are laid off, your severance will be your current salary multiplied by several factors. The higher your salary, the higher your severance.

They saw it happen to nitel in the 2000s. A behemoth became irrelevant overnight. If you did not grow up in the 80/90s you cannot understand what GSM did to nitel.

We had a house in lagos but I had to receive calls in the neighbours house. You make international calls in public in a queue. You toast nitel ogas for years to get a line.

That is what I ultimately think this is about, but I may be reading too much into it

I know a family friend who exited NITEL due to the advent of GSM as u posited, I don't know how much he got paid but I know his severance package was enough for him to build hospital from the one full plot of land left in his compound. His wife was a chief matron in one of the big general hospitals in Lagos and his first son was almost through with his MBBS that time ; they only employed two doctors who were running shifts pending when his son finished his training as a doctor and took control of the place. Today baba is enjoying his retirement.

My problem is ; is there no other way any union of government employees can get the government's attention apart from strike?

I took a borrowed course in Industrial relations & personnel management in school and u see professors talking about so many ways employees can express their grievances to their employers, why are none of those media yeidling results aside from strike in our own society? What is wrong with us?

Kantebets:
with the exception of davido I don’t know many Nigerian musicians who use real age -maybe just a few

Burna real age is past 31 forget

There is no way Burna is same age as his egbon koulibaly

U are a funny guy.

Burna has school mates that attended Corona with him and can confirm his age. U are just arguing for the sake of it.

Why are u willing to accept Davido's age and not Burna's? I'm guessing cos u think Davido is from a rich home and burna is not.... Well rich is relative, Burna's parent weren't paupers too.

Just take a stroll to Corona Agbara and u can confirm Burna's age in their records ( At least everyone knows Corona to be a reputable school)

larride:
Theres no light because TCN has shut down the national grid over promotional interview.

A lawless country.

The restored it this morning before I left home.

I don't even know the head or tail of their agitation sef, the whole promotional interview reason just sounds dumb to me.

iamoyindamola:

Na quotable quote be that.... quote of the year

A good administrator is a good administrator, whether at 25 or 85

Parrie:
No wonder him blood bin dey hot on Saturday

Money good. Within a year of collecting better salary at Arsenal baba quickly do the needful.

iamoyindamola:
PHCN have joined strike
Which kind life be this sef

Dem say dem Don suspend am for 2 weeks https://www.nairaland.com/7286652/breaking-electricity-workers-suspend-strike#115802451

Oya make dem on light na, àbí dem dey wait to make video of switching it on like they did when switching off ni?

BlueMann:
Oh how could I ever forget that war of a football match? Raphinha chop bandage tire that night

As in, I woke to watch a game of football between two south American giants that night, only to see war in full HD.

BlueMann:
Romero will be out for 3-4 weeks

Was busy pulling someone's hair, not knowing that his muscle was waiting to be pulled too

Romero na rugged defender, the way he usually jump at players with rough tackles sure guarantees his muscle to get pulled one way or another.

He was one of the weyreys that turned copa America final vs Brazil to war that day.

Yam fries & pepper sauce

The sauce was really spicy ; combined two different pepper without any no single Tomato involved .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]This seems to be a week of canceling bets

Larride, can we discuss for a minute, please?

I no dey fear oh. I just tire for the bet[/color]

So u people are actually serious with this una stanning of Mustafi ? Chai! Migwo…. I greet una o

forgiveness:
Havertz is not a flop although some here thinks like that because he has been played out of position.

He is not a striker.

No let Ibime see this thing wey u type so o

Jodera:

Na true na... We still dey complain about Xhaka and dem wan add Jorginho join. I don't like what I hate

mostob:
It is impossible. Which CHO? Arteta is not that st*pid.

Na so dem trend stupiiid rumor say we wan sign the spineless Jorginho last year when we were clamoring for a midfielder . All through that period I was using daily doses of “ God Abeg “ twice after every meal and God eventually forbid bad thing