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Akinbahm:
Sorry to say, if that's your intention bro u just have to erase it from mind cause u stood on rebuilding a team one should start from defense which we said NO outrightly.

What jenecyde is saying there is about team lifting trophy of competition and not league cause we all know if the last Euro happen to b a league competition with what we all watched Italy won't make Top5.

I'm not about to enter into a long non-produvtive argument with anybody on the need why we needed to at least get a CB last season after we had lamented about how terrible Mustafi, Papasthapopulous were and how unreliable Holding and Luiz were in the previous season.


I leave u to believe whatever u choose to believe.

This is nairaland, even those who called mustafi and Luiz clowns turned back to say we didn't need any CB....So I understand

Jodera:
You have valid and solid points tho, but as jencyjyde says, "was their attitudes so sudden"?
I mean, these guys have been in arsenal camp since and played all preseason matches, how come during the match proper, their attitudes are found wanting?

My opinion is that Arteta should find a way to incorporate at least one of those two into the squad back (either through sweet talks or persuasion or anything). Balogun is not ready, and it's not as if he's some kind of halaand or mbappe yet. If balogun was coming back from a successful loan, it would have been better, but this is someone coming straight up from academy who had just played a competitive football with senior team once or twice.

Let him just have at least one of them for this season, then bin both while getting a major striker next season, cos to me, it's a big risk he's taking not starting any.
Any coach that takes such a risk already have a very good ready talent coming in, but in this case Arteta has none

To be clear what u are saying is for the coach to have two clearly undisciplined players incorporated into the team because they are senior players and there's no senior replacement for them..... well let's see how that works out in th coming weeks

Jencejyde:
On the defense wins you titles argument. I am a strong advocate of that notion.

People don't realize that a strong defense is the foundation for actually winning trophies but that defense must be helped significantly by a well drilled midfield and sharp attack.

Italy would never have won the euros if not for those two warhorses at the back helped by a superb organized midfield even though for me their attack was not the best.

That defense always kept them in games no matter the situation.

But in the case of arsenal , Arteta is missing the plot by focussing too much on the defense and not really bolstering the midfield to complement them. Even the defense imo still needs quality at RB and CD as Ben white Gabriel and Kt are the only really quality I see.

For me xhaka has no business playing in Arsenal midfield but relying solely on Esr Sambi and Saka to help Partey is just way too much in a league as competitive as the epl. I expected that by now we should have gotten Madison and Aour or two of any top midfielders out there and let xhaka elneny and William and co leave.

How we have mismanaged the last few months after ending the league in a disgraceful position is still amazing me

This is what we keep trying to explain but they just keep taking the whole sentence "defence wins you titles" out of context.....some Don even turn themselves to trolls of the club they claim to support sef.

Jencejyde:
Looking at what has panned out so far in this Arteta regime, one thing is very clear to me. Arteta is ot a good player manager. He seems to be towing a Frank Lampard path where he always seems to have issues with senior players and whether he likes it or not, you need these experienced heads at their best to achieve anything.

It's questionable to be looking to buy 19 and 20 year olds all over the place when we have an academy to produce such. The focus should be quality players with good experience to merge with the exciting talents we have to create a balanced team capable of delivering results.

There is no excuse for him at this point and by now he should be facing the sack if results do not improve just by accumulating points but by a clear and consistent playing pattern that is exciting and creating and putting away enough chances to win games. 3 months from now is my verdict on him at this point in time

Firstly let me say I don't hold brief for Arteta and I don't mind whether he's sacked or not...so far the team is doing well(which of corse is not the case now)

Let me say this ; some players like to disrespect the coach especially when they feel the coach is just a few years older than them....this happens to coaches who are in their 30's coaching "senior players" approaching their 30's or already in their 30's. I personally don't support the unruly behaviors of such players. If what is being said about Auba and Laca in training is true then I don't really it's Arteta's fault..... I mean if "senior men" that are supposed to be source of inspiration to younger players are non challant about the team's plunging reputation to win Games, then what should u expect from youngsters.

Saka for one adores Auba drawing inference from the way he adores the "pepper necklace" Auba gifted him last season and how I see their chemistry on social media ; now imagine whatever nonsense Auba has going on rubs off on Saka that we all look up to, do u know we might an under 20 star player holding the club to ransom, playing when he feels he need to and even forcing his way out when we need him most?

Maybe Arteta is not a good man manager owing to how he's manage some younger players in the past, but I don't support the kind of mutiny I read is being led by our "senior men"

Jodera:
Lol...
Solomonbrown is to Emery what Spy is to Wenger

Yeah....Dem too dey attached to the respective coaches.

iamoyindamola:
I want auba,laca and Arteta to fvck off soon

I guess u are about to have Ur wish come tru

daveP:
I meant the defender/midfielder he's passing to near the box. Even if they can skin their way out of the tackle, he should try something else.


Aimless budey is when they've closed down and no option atall. Better safe than a santa clause gift. Christmas is still far.


Well,till we get sense to link up aerial balls from GK.

You need to understand everyone has to play their part for u to play from back successfully.

Those balls he passes to players beside the box is normal, it's the player that gets the ball and the other players job to create space in order to beat their opponent's press. Nobody will allow u play from back easily except u draw them out of position and Ur players move the ball with sense. This is the area where players like Xhaka are deficient .

U see, we have players who are not suited for the pattern we are trying to play and that’s where the coach needs to do something before something do him

daveP:
I'd absolve him of blame the moment he uses his head to see that he should do something else once his guys are man marked near the 18. We should not be getting scared from such mistakes. Its now a norm. We should rather be getting scared about opponents breaking our line down. He in on the pitch. He should be a Kepa sometimes. Haba. Whether they are good at Receiving the pass or not, he should get a new way. We don't need this kind of palaver so early and among our issues.

What u are saying here is that whether the players upfront will win the ball or not the keeper should always play a long punt into the opponents half....Well I have news for u; that's the easiest way to lose a match; gifting Ur opponents the ball by playing aimless long balls.

Go and check Bruno Fernandes' first goal today ; the Leeds keeper did exactly what u are preaching here and it just took 3 to 4 untied touches for the ball to get to Bruno and the rest was history.

In fact check the first goal against us yesterday, an aimless clearance from our defender gifted Brentford a chance to build their attack that led to the goal.

There's a reason Tuchel and his Chelsea don't budey like u are advising.

Exactly my thought. If they don't have COVID-19, which kind illness go give u one week in advance notice

Word on the street is that Auba and Lacazzette were dropped due to their attitude in training which Arteta feels was not good enough. Then there's also the gist that the rest of the team is not happy with Arteta's decision.

The troubling thing is this; is the rest of the team comfortable with the shitty performance they've been putting out lately? Do they think Auba and Lacazette being senior men should be allowed to do as they like? Or do they actually think Arteta is not the right man for the job?

Whichever it is, obviously we are 4cked as it stands .

At this point I feel there's something going on behind the scene we ain't being told.

How can Ur two senior strikers who are not injured nor contracted COVID-19 suddenly be ill at the beginning of a new season? Especially when they weren't even on international duty during off season.

Something is just not right.....

Jodera:
Solomonbrown follow Emery comot

The guy was not Happy with how we call out Gud Ebening after each disastrous outing.....

He just had to leave with his guy

iamoyindamola:
Na rich man they chow yam na
I no kuku like yam sef, potato as substitute

I don't like potato...it's too sweet for me.

I guee the phobia for potato was from when I served in the north, I would buy 100 naira worth if it and it filled a whole black and yellow nylon bag. I cook or fry almost everyday and it will still last for a week or more.

If I don't cook stew on a Saturday morning, I always feel my Saturday is not complete ( except when I have a function at a far distance and I need to drive out early)

Here's my Saturday ẹja kika stew for serving normal Thai rice, ofada rice, yam and any other food as the spirit leads in the coming week

mariahAngel:
I’d say they’re very good for the price.

I kukuma know jare

iamoyindamola:
It's okay bro
I got 5 pieces for 400 so it's almost the same

Yeah I know....I'm just lamenting the current economic situation ni jàre....

I bought a tuber of yam for 1,700 after much negotiation and dragging with the seller. The guy wasn't going to sell for 1,699.99 sef.

In the spirit of the ẹja kika discussion going on, I bought these 9 pieces for ₦1,000.00 this morning.......So much for my bargaining power in this Buhari regime

kodded:
Im not suprised in the resukt yesterday, A £60 million maddison was needed in that match over a £50 million ben white.



I see no reason why saliba can not be given a chance when the likes of mari and holding are in the squad

The only positives in this loss is that it will force the club to bring in a more experienced CAM like maddison, but even maddison is not enough because we still need a winger that will mount the LW position, because as it stands, Pepe, Nelson, Abuneyang, ESR, willian and martinelli are not ready yet for that LW position at all, infact the only creatuve force we have in that left is from Tierney, and that has been one of our major problem since last season, such a shame that arteta was blind to see it.

Now the season has not even started and we have continued to rely on young saka again, such a shame from a club that had over £75million to spend in the summer

U see, the reason that right side of attack is dead is because there's no decent RB to pair with Pepe on that right side. Yesterday while Pepe was being double marked a decent RB would fin way to run behind pepe’s markers thereby giving him options of either dribbling or laying a pass ; the kind of options dem Alexander Arnold gives u.

Chambers is too static to be a decent RB that gives attacking options . If we don’t want to attack only tru the left, then we need to add a RB along with AM to that team

daveP:
Are the players upfront to blame really? Didn't you see Pepe was double marked from start to finish? Lol. He can't beat those two built gymnasts. Forget. If we are volatile to put blame, na Arteta o.

He's the sole reason that Leno keeps being robotic. I dunno which mumu button he dey use hold Leno. I still dont.


Leno will be the most obedient GK in the world no doubt!! Chai. Raya kept budeying the ball and got two goals. Our build from back crap only made these defenders look foolish. I think the defenders that are still not far from average should not be burdened with the job of Midfielders for now. A new approach...

I really do not get this constant blame u guys keep putting on Leno for trying to start play from the back as he's instructed.

Didn't u notice that all the times he plays a long punt into Brentford's half Balogun failed to win most if not all the resultant aerial battles?.....Like we don't have players strong in the air who can win ball off goalkicks like we had in dem Giroud. It just amounts to waste of possession playing budey like u people are hoping.

If u don't believe this go and watch the replay of the game. Almost all the budey from Raya either won or keenly contested by their front men while ours keep finding it's way back to midfield or to their goalkeeper after their defenders must have dealt with it.

One thing is clear, Arteta seem not to have an idea of how to solve this problem and I see more teams captilizijgbon it; teams like Crystal place, Aston Villa, Burnley, Brighton etc will make Arteta regret this stupid Ben white transfer

Roland17:
Make I see anybody compare Mari with Gab for here again

Mari na pant

The way dem dey bully our 50m CB ehn

Roland17:
Na the Chamber wen better pass Clown Bellerin be dis abi which one? E go better say we no play with RB this season be that.

I dey talk am since say we no get decent RB, but most fans dey focus only on AM alone

Pepe wastepipe!

I hope u guys are seeing Leno has seemed to be under strict instruction to always start play from the back cos even when the defenders are marked out he still hopes to find someone to pass to

Fkhalifa:
Interesting line up, apart from Xhaka and Chambers who I don't find exciting anymore, everyone else on the starting 11 deserves support.

Chambers is just there, he doesn't excite me too. I've seen him play DM,RB and CB yet I don't find anything exciting in his game in any of those positions.

As for Xhaka I really want to use this season to know whether the entire arsenal set up is his problem or he's just not good enough for arsenal. He was playing really well for Switzerland in the Euros that at a time I wonder if he's the same Xhaka that plays for arsenal putting one wrong foot after another every week.

I'm interested in seeing what Sambi can do

I just read Lacazette and auba won't be available for today's match....guess it's safe to say all our predicted line up is in the mud

@iamoyindamola can we have a second shot at predicting the line up?

Jodera:
Actually it was 3-0 , but it still doesn't invalidate your point tho

Yeah that's true....I think that's the only match Willian managed to put up above average performance.

Last season we scored 4 goals in our first match vs Fulaham.....Willian had 3 assists in that match and from then on everything just red.

Hoping this year will be a better one

iamoyindamola:
Let's play a game
Predict Arteta first line up this evening
To win, tag me with your lineup
Entry close at 18:00

Leno
Cedric . Holding White Tierney

Xhaka Lokonga

ESR

Pepe Lacazette Auba

This should do the job

daveP:
Pic 1: Once upon a time.

This club needs a moment of 3yrs to forget the past glory.

Pic 2: we need these two so we won't do pic 3


Pic 4:We may not need the most expensive, but we need a team that rakes up such numbers TOGETHER. TEAM gel is key!!!


Just look at these numbers?? Injury inclusive, 5years is needed!

@pic 1

That team didn't achieve anything of note other than FA cup which Arteta has won with lesser quality players.

There's nothing nostalgic about the team in pic 1 ojere

CSTRR:
Messi is the only human I know that cries of heartbreak after securing a £1million a week deal.

Wonderful actor. Deserves an Oscar.

This thing u people are doing is called envy laced with bad Belle. Barca fans wey messi cry for no complain say na hypocrisy, but na fans of rival teams dey get sleepless night over the sincerity of his tears...... The thing just dey somehow sha.

I'm snot urprised sha , that’s the price messi must pay for being great; he gets to be judged for every little things fellow humans do. His team gets dumped out in the UCL he gets knock for it, his team gets dumped out of international tournament finals he gets the knock it, he retires from international football out of disappointments he’s called a coward, now he’s leaving his a club he’s played for all his life out of necessity; he breaks down in the middle of his press conference and now he’s being called an actor .... smh

NinjaMetahuman:
I said they don't have. I didn't say they couldn't.

You too

You are just turning amala as u like.

If Madrid don't have to pay shishi to get top player because of Ronaldo why did they pay a record fee of over 85m Euros for bale ?

If Barca don’t need to pay shishi to get top players because Messi makes the club attractive , why did they pay as much as they did to get De Jong , Griezmann ?

You see say ur theory no pass the first test sef.

Those clubs are attractive to players because of their history , honors won in the past and great players that have worn their colors . Players have been dreaming to play for Madrid before Ororo got into Sporting’s Acaddemy , before Messi enter La masia sef .