₦airaland Forum

Josh090: So, inside your mind now, you know the limit of my knowledge.
The whole theory is hinged on the fact that some people in ife were called igbo(forest), and the rest is just conjectural BS!
If I wake up one day and write that igbo etiti people in enugu are actually from forest of ekiti, I hope you'll believe that too right? SMH
There are no igbo people in southwest Nigeria

CAMEROONPRIDE: if that's your answer then you are the clueless here, you clearly don't know what is and what makes an accent. Anyway your presence here is not indispensable,goodbye.

gtim4uall: Greatings to evryone reading this.,,,
This question has been bothering my mind for over ten years now, and i wil appreaciate it if anyone has a logical and perfect explanation for it...
I remember when i was a child, i was carrying one of my neighbour's baby, i was showing the baby its image in a mirror ... Sudden two hot slap fell on my bare back as the woman quickly took her baby immediately away from me.....
When i got back mysef i asked 2 why she acted so, i was told that one does not put a mirror before infants... I don't knw if its a tradition or a superstition but if anyone ever have an any idea on this should please enlighten me,...
thanks for you contributions

Josh090: Blyss, dt article you quoted up there is complete NONSENSE!!
What you and the writer probably don't know is that, the word 'igbo' has a meaning in yoruba and it means bush/forest and can be aptly used to refer to ppl living in the forest.
To suggest that ijebu-igbo is actually referring to igbo tribe is as ridiculous as it is insulting.
The pronouciation of those two words differ completely and in case of the yoruba word 'igbo' its meaning is known, but the word 'igbo' in igbo language cannot be defined, so, please, there are no igbo people in southwest Nigeria.
P.s am not concerned about who got shipped off the most or not, just don't mix things up.

CAMEROONPRIDE: thank you my question still stands.

CAMEROONPRIDE: thanks, i thought i was crazy

H-Star89:
she is, well half ..Igbo mom and white dad

PAGAN 9JA:
how is that racist. I know Touareg. they do not mistreat their slaves who are considered like family. these days most bella are conisdered full TOuareg. infact the only TOuareg King today is of Bella/mixed descent.

CAMEROONPRIDE: you are the one making a lot of confusions its quite funny when someone call a thread stu.pid esp when this person failed to answer a simple question: WHAT MAKE AN ACCENT? i will add another questions since it seems we are not on the same page: WHAT IS AN ACCENT/HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN A FOREIGNER IS TALKING AND WHEN A LOCAL IS TALKING? WHAT DIFFERENCY THEM?

newmusic: @CAMEROONPRIDE, I think I understand what you mean, sometimes I can tell if it's a white guy talking or black guy without looking at the TV. It's more of nature than accents, black people tend to talk deeper from the lungs while whites speak lightly and put less pulmonary pressure on the lungs.

White and black that grew up under the same roof may sound differently, I think it's just a natural thing... I don't know better ways to explain this.

Sometimes ,it applies to music as well, I was wondering when I saw a black girl taking the chorus of P. Diddy's "home coming". My curiosity made me to find out who took the chorus then I later found out it was Skylar Gray(she was just not in the video).

Though our very own Asa has a unique voice though, lol.

@Blyss may be right.

logica: Aww, I'm sure you were wishing it was you right? Fortunately or unfortunately, your venom reduces the chances of you getting too far up the ladder.

EFX001: NIGERIAN ARMY COVERT SPECIAL FORCES COMMANDOS ARE CURRENTLY IN MALI CARRYING OUT COVERT OPS AGAINST TERRORIST ELEMENTS. MY FREIENDS THIS WAS CONFIRMED YESTERDAY BY THE MALIAN GENERAL INCHARGE OF OPERATIONS. ITS A SECRET RAPID DEPLOYMENT. SHHHH! IGNORE THE MEDIA AND READ THROUGH THE LINES.

cogitoErgo: African leaders are slow to act because they are taking their time to think hard b4 they act!

Saipro: . . . . . . and here I am thinking beauty is an observer-dependent phenomenon.

shymexx: It's the same out here - and I speak with a black british accent... I think it has more to do with pitch and vocal chords... Asians also sound different from both black and white people as well...

H-Star89:
Thx and yes; my mom is on the right

Dhany110: I dont judge if thats what you choose, but this
time you lose//

Get you in a depression spend all your money
on booze//

I'm commin harder this time around, you'll be lying flat on the ground//

Surround and storm in, I'll do what I have to
win. Wether I sin, I just dont give a Bleep, but sorry man your just shit outta luck//

Cause I gotta ominous awesomeness that you
cannot diss.//

So get out your dictionary and go down the list//

Like MC Hammer screaming “You can't touch this”//

You might as well just go into the wind a piss, if you think you'll win this time//

You might wanna come up with creative lines//

so sit back relax and think a liitle.//

Cause I got your brain like a basketball its
dribbled//

so confused but biyatch, this is not a “Riddle”//

Son, you need to wake up, shape up, and stop
bein' a gay Bleep//

Only screamin teens in cheap make-up
represent for Team kay-Bleep//

Yeah, you can dream tough, but you can't
dispute the evidence//

Dude, you're present tense, I'm the future with a 7th Sense//

Cuz I don't just see dead people… I produce em with this clever text//

You “Joker” better be ready for comBAT MAN,
so get your pen in your hand//

Be ready, this shits about to get heavy, razor's in my hand you can call me Dhany//

Got ya mind racin, So Can this Retard Ever
Win? Jason Voorhees got him on his knees//

Can't talk ya deaf, can't bitch and complain, cut you up and slit your juggular vein//

Yeske: Is unclothedness part of the new look? BS

rdokoye: Ethiopia in its biblical sense refers to a group of people, not the country Ethiopia, which in actuality was renamed (from Abyssinia) in commemoration of the historical legacy of the term.

slimderek: The singer was due to marry Arab ­multi-billionaire Wissam Al Mana but their lawyers could not organise the prenuptial agreement in time.



This is no small matter as twice-­married Janet has amassed a fortune of £93.5million from 10 hit albums and six major tours while Wissam is one of the richest investors in the Middle East where he represents such fashion and style icons as Hermes and Sonia Rykiel. He is also a major shareholder in Saks Fifth Avenue stores in Dubai, Doha, Bahrain and Kuwait.

“Janet will be marrying into the sort of wealth not even her brother Michael managed to amass during his lifetime of success,” said her friend. “She’s looking forward to a fairytale life with Wissam.”

Should the fairytale turn sour then the agreement still being worked on is reported to guarantee Janet, 46, a “kiss-off” of half-a-billion dollars (around £312.14million) if they divorce after a minimum of five years.
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http://www.slipost.com/janet-jackson-to-receive-500m-when-she-decides-to-divorce-her-husband/

IdeasDrive: Considering the multi- cultural make-up of societies and countries, I wish to ask this:
Is it considered an appropriate thing to do, when you look squarely into their eyes, when having a conversation with them. Or is it seen as being cocky or rude?
Please, I need views from different ethnic and cultural extractions, because I look into people's eyes, regardless of who they are..
Thanks.

KenyanLady: And how do you know that?? you haven't seen my new picture, Black-American is another useless racist term, I prefer African-American,

KenyanLady: Which area do you live in?

Yes I am Kikuyu woman, but I don't look very Kikuyu woman anymore, I look so different now because I had a br.east augmentation and a nose job two years ago, btw, are you Kenyan?

H-Star89:
Hopefully an actual african american or white american will comment

Excerpts from his post: AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN LINK TO IGBO ORIGINS; THE EGBA ARE IGBO

It is an established fact and beyond dispute that the vast majority of captives taken from Africa for enslavement in the Americas were of Igbo origins. In addition to the massive amount of Igbos documented and acknowledged to have been shipped directly out of the Igbo dominated areas of the Niger Delta millions of others were brought to the Americas from Igbo slave colonies which were established throughout the African Continent and thus arrived under a variety of tribal and national listings.

Those classified as Ashante were actually Igbos who were imported to Ghana by Portuguese slave traders to work the gold mines. Others listed as Angolan were also Igbos. Some Igbos were imported to Angola prior to their arrival in the Americas, while others were born and raised in the Igbo slave colony of Angola. Both Angola and Mozambique have coastal cities named IBO(EBO)conveniently located for exporting slaves.

The Gullah whose name derives from the word Angola are an African - American community that live on the sea islands off of the coast of Georgia and South Carolina. The Gullah are currently engaged in a strenuous battle to secure a memorial at a site called Igbo Landing. Igbo Landing was named in memory of the countless Igbos who drowned themselves to protest their enslavement. Historians who have taken a serious interest in the slave trade and tribal origins of African - Americans most certainly understand that there was a significant "Yoruba" element amongst the captives. The purpose of this writing is to further support research that proves that the majority of those enslaved and brought to the Americas were Igbo by acknowledging those classified as " YORUBA" as being Igbo as well.

The term " YORUBA " originally referred to the Oyo, a tribe who lived amongst the Hausas in what is presently Northern Nigeria.(3) Over the centuries they were gradually driven southward where they in turn became the conquerors of the indigenous people of " Southwest Nigeria" who like their Southeastern counterparts were referred to as the Igbos.(4) This Igbo society was traditionally protected by a secret society of masked warriors known as the Egbo or Egba.

The Southwestern Igbo lived in the forest surrounding Ife. It was there that they were first confronted by Oduduwa who along with his youngest son Oranyan are remembered as the founders of the Oyo(Yoruba)Kingdom at Ife.(5) In their initial encounters, the Oyo were unable to penetrate the frightening Egba(Igbos) as these intimidating forest dwellers mastered the art of instilling fear into their opponents. These Igbos went further in raiding and burning down the intruding Oyo(Yoruba) settlements in the town at Ife.

The Igbo(Egba) were first defeated through the scheming of a women named Moremi who allowed herself to be captured by the Igbo as she used her beauty to seduce the Igbo King into revealing the secrets of the Egba(Igbo).(6) She later returned to the Oyo providing her fellow countrymen with the necessary information needed to finally conquer the Igbo(Egba) " menace ". This defeat of the Igbo is celebrated every year at the annual Eid festival at Ife.



In 1835, the Egba(Igbo) declared themselves independent of the Yoruba(Oyo) and in response the Oyo along with the Ijebu drove them out of Ibadan, Ife and other towns north of their present day capital of Abeokuta.(7) As a result of close interaction with the Ijebu , the city Ijebu-Igbo was established. The founding of the Egba(Igbo)Kingdom at Abeokuta in 1837 is considered to be the last one recognized within the "Yoruba confederation " of tribes. By this time the term Yoruba had now expanded beyond its original usage in referring to the Oyo and generally applied to all of the inhabitants of Southwest Nigeria.

In addition to the Egba there remains a "Yoruba " tribe in the Kwarra State that continues to use the more original Igbo as part of their tribal name and they are referred to as Igbo-Mina. The tradition of the masked Egbo(Egba)warriors is likewise documented in Southeastern Nigeria the home of the present day Igbo people.

1. Egbo - A secret society at one time existing as a political bond between various towns especially in Eastern Nigeria. - World Book
Dictionary A - K 1974.

In 1876, the Scottish Presbyterian Missionary Mary Slessor came to Calabar. According to the accountings of Ms. Slessor, in the Igbo areas a secret society known as Egbo went around in masks and beat people. She claimed to have chased a group of Egbo and tore off a mask.( (Note THE EGBO WARRIORS SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM OR WEAKNESS FOR FOREIGN WOMEN. FIRST MOREMI IN THE WEST INFORMS HER PEOPLE TO BURN THE MASKS OF THE EGBO(EGBA) AND LATER IN THE EAST, MARY SLESSOR CLAIMS TO HAVE PERSONALLY TORN OFF AN EGBO MASK.)

The Egba of Abeokuta worship a deity called the Oro. Oro is a god who resides in a bush. In honor of Oro a sacred ceremony is performed at a secluded spot inside the bush. This ceremony is called Igbo Oro. (9) The concept of Igbo Oro closely resembles the story of the Lord of Israal(Israel) speaking to the Prophet Moses(Musa) from inside of the burning bush. Igbo Oro can be related to the early Israal origins of the Igbo(10).

Although the concept of Legba(Eshu) varies it began as an ancestral memorial designed to maintain the Igbo identity during times when the Igbo declared themselves to be in a state of secrecy called Egba/Egbo. Legba was also activated in the New World to counter modern slavery and its attempts to wipe out the Egba(Igbo) identity of the captives. The deity is described in " Yoruba " mythology as the " Divine Trickster " who wields great power because of his ability to outwit his fellow gods. Evidences of Legba have been documented throughout the Americas in such places as Brazil, Guyana, Trinidad, Haiti and New Orleans under various names such as Lebba,Legba, Elegbarra and Liba.(11)

The term Elegbarra or Lugbarra is of great significance because not only does the name appear in the Americas amongst the Egba slaves who are of Igbo origin, but it is also the name of a tribe that lives in Southern Sudan and Northern Uganda who are likewise related to the Igbos of Nigeria. When traveling in Uganda I personally met a Lugbarra Doctor of Medicine who previously studied alongside of Igbos from Nigeria. The Lugbarra man stated that he could understand much of the Igbo language which had much in common with his own Lugbarra tongue. He was definitely convinced that the Lugbarra and the Igbo were akin.(12)(13)

In 1967,Haiti became the only country outside of Africa to recognize the Igbo quest to establish the independent Republic of Biafra. This was due to the Haitian's memory of their own Igbo revolutionary past. The numerous and successful slave revolts in Haiti are all clearly documented as Igbo uprisings(14),but yet we find the strongest presence of the ancestral deity Legba amongst the Haitians. In Haiti Legba is described as the most powerful of all Loa.He is the guardian of the gate between the material and spiritual world. He has great wisdom and knowledge of the past and future. Every ritual begins with a sacrifice to Legba. He is the guardian of the sun and his color is black. The guardian of the sun is most likely a code for the land of the Rising Sun which is the ancient Igbo reference to the land of Biafra.(15)

In Brazil, an organized Igbo revolt led to the establishment of the independent " Igbo" Republic of Palmares which lasted 45 years.(16) Being consistent with Igbo resistance, Palmares ended in a massive suicide of Igbo warriors who preferred death to captivity.(17) The city Ibotirama testifies to a strong Igbo presence in the region. (18) However as in the case of Haiti Afro-Brazilian culture and religious practices are more readily associated with that of the "Yoruba " including the worship of Legba.

Olukwumu is spoken in Brazil and interestingly enough in a few Igbo communities such as Anioma,Idumu-Ogu, Ubulubu,Ugboba,Ugbodu and Okwumzu. Although this dialect cannot be found in Yorubaland it remains in reference as a " lost dialect of the Yoruba language ". (19) This indicates that in addition to the Egba and Igbo -Mina, other Igbo communities likewise were classified as " Yoruba " and like the Olukwumu some made their way to the New World accompanying the majority Egba.

In Cuba the Olukwumu(Yoruban-Igbos)are referred to as the Lukumi or Olukumi. Like other Igbo captives the Lukumi of Cuba were noted for their massive suicidal resistance that often found them hanging from the branches of the Guasima trees.(20) This sounds very similar to the Igbos of Haiti, as the Haitian saying," IGBOS PEND COR A YO " - The Igbos hang themselves is still current.(21) NOTE: ( IN ADDITION TO THE IGBO OLUKUMI THERE ARE THOSE IGBOS WHO WERE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM CALABAR TO CUBA AND THEY ARE KNOWN AS THE
ABAKUA.)

No one would argue that Paul Robeson and Booker T. Washington standout amongst the most accomplished "African-Americans " the latter being the founder of the prestigious Tuskegee Institute. It can be speculated that the success of these two individuals can at least partially be attributed to the fact that they both maintained links to their Igbo origins. Paul Robeson confirmed his Igbo identity through linguistics as he was able to verify the Igbo origins of a number of African words that had been passed down through his family(22),while Booker T. Washington obviously maintained an understanding of his Egba(Igbo) background which is reflected in his middle name Tanifeani, a name most common to the Egba people.(23). In summary the captives taken to the Americas of whom were classified as " Yorubas " were of Igbo origins, as the Igbos arriving under a variety of tribal names and classifications account for approximately 90% of all slaves.
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tpia@:
The northern accent is brisk, while the southern or black one is not.


The main thing is, southern whites and southern blacks used to have almost the same accent, save for the difference in education and environment, and the major differences in language were between northern whites and southern ones. As to whether the southerners accents wee influenced by blacks, or it was vice versa is yet to be determined.

But blacks in general have their own accent and typically, a black who doesnt speak like that, will stand out because you're speaking like a white person.

Nigerians whose accents are based on the british model, also have this problem when they're in the US.

@ darapture/kingbenin/blyss/whatever

Wbb to address your post.