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LOL and you people wonder why we'd want our own nation if we were to settle in that continent.

Ms.Darkskin gave a furthered explanation of the situation very well.

code.africa:
nope.

Well, what is she if you don't mind me asking?

martinosi: Hmm interesting, but what African Americans & African Caribbeans should know that
moving back to africa to live is not that hard as they make it out to be.

First they should connect with the Community-Commerce or Culltural centre of the country
they want to move back to stay Tanzania, Nigeria or Ghana in the America or Europe.
The truth of the matter is that most of the African Americans & Caribbeans i know that have moved back to Ghana, Nigeria or Namibia, Tanzania are doing very well.

They are accepted, have built good businesses and have been embraced fully. I have an african american friend in Ghana who have moved out their with his family and some friends. They are working in the New Oil/Gas industry there and also export and process agricutural products.

They are doing great and they have also opened up opportunities for local ghanians and are
helping african americans in the states who are now marketing, doing admin and other logisitics
for the products being sold from Ghana. Its a win win! If you are an African American or African Caribbean and your focused about your life and bring value to the economic table in Africa, you will be embraced fully, The locals will respect and revere you Big-time!!!

I know of an African American man that came to Nigeria as an expate in the Construction industry and has his own construction companies now in Tanzania and Ghana. After he finished his contract in Nigeria, he moved to Tanzania with his family. He also partnerss with Nigeria
construction companies doing consultancy on projects in Kaduna and Ogun state.

Everybody likes a good thing ! The Caribbeans and African Americans that i know of in Africa
came with hardly anything but their Skills, Knowledge and determination and they have become
very successful and have helped the local economies.

I am working with African Americans now who are my advisers on my Education and Real Estate projects in Nigera & two other west African countries.

The African American consultancy is based in Forest Lake illinois in the States. They have come out to Nigeria as i have hosted them and their business links has been growing.
African Americans & African Caribbeans are our brothers and african as a continent by potential is a 50 trillion dollar economy. We need to start building bridges and get rid of the ignorant walls.

Well, that is wonderful for those whom are succeeding in that manner, and their exposure and experience will be a great asset to the growth and expansion of such a nation as proposed in the long run.

Amya: what now is the point of it all? You want to be 'independent' from the US, and yet still not be 'independent' from them.*
The US is a country of great opportunies too. If you sole purpose of having to start up your own nation is strictly for economic benefits and not for obsessive reasons (of finally feeling like a first rate citizen in your country), wouldn't you just rather remain in your country and struggle like the other minorities?

No, rather have an independent nation. If the US gov. wants to invest in some aspect of the nations development then they are welcome just as MOST any other nation will be. Investment is investment.

dabossman: If you won't be bringing all those gun-totting, jeans-sagging, gangster talking brothers and coochie mamas with plenty baba mama drama, then I can sell you a large parcel of land somewhere in Benue State. The governor won't even know you guys are there. Honest.

There's absolutely no desire to obtain land from Nigeria. It's too crowded and, extremist.

kufre2010: This sound self centered to me. If they cannot associat with their brothers here in Africa then let them stay back there and continue facing the racial discrimination. We need employment let them come and build industries. We need their intelect to better the countries in Africa and not their seperate country. We need their experience they should not b selfish with it.

This can all be obtained without them becoming part of your nations. It's called investment, and for such a nation to survive they'll have to invest heavily in the other African nations, and they will.

Tedpgrass: "No no no no".... like Amy Winehouse once sang.

Too many issues.

As many have mentioned.... land is valued highly...... maybe not as high as it should.

A community may be "donated" to create a much-needed development in the surroundings .... but self-rule, no natives around...... that's way too too far.
Our governments may be corrupt but not stupid!!!

Creating another Old-style Zimbabwe, na na.
Even Israel with the support of the Intl committee is still not settled decades later.



I pose a question to Blyss......

Rather than "invading" extremely mineral rich central African region filled with guerilla groups and commandos for sale.... why not get some land in the US.... you have more claim there... you have been resident there for hundreds of years now,
Or some arid land in the middle of Sahara desert.

Then I'll try to see this as a genuine return to the motherland and not a pseudo-way of black in white supremacy land grab.

West Africans may be peace loving but are beginning to wise up. Invasions by powers in Arab lands have been less successful as compared to Liberia. We are observing proceedings elsewhere.

Don't think you can do a 'Ghaddafi" on us and not get reprisals.....
I appreciate that Intl relations are a bit more convoluted but it still remains an emotive subject!!!!

Sounds rather selfish to me. But, at any rate arid land would be just fine as well, as long as some coastal stretch is included in the the area given. Regardless of whether it's arid land in the Kalahari or lush jungle terrain in the Congo, or a stretch of grassy savanna, we'll turn it into a mecca of economic prowess on the African continent. Just give it up and we'll build it up.

Michaeljones36: Guys...I think Blyss is a troll.

Akatas already live in Africa. They are all over the place, and many more will come and contribute as time goes on. The only person interested in starting a separate country is this fool.

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LOL, so you call me a Troll for asking about a proposed idea? By the way, you know what I've stated to you is correct.

andrewza: you would be seen by many has a American colony

Humm, if people want to think in such a way, then that's fine. It'll be no more of a colony than any other nation in which receives US federal investment into their economies or military for whatever reason the US gov. sees fit. If the US gov. wants to invest, then that's perfectly fine.

andrewza: sounds like apartheid/oranje state set up to me. And i still think that the rebels in the area you want to set up will have you has a target. There are rebel groups in the DRC that sole objective is to stop out siders robbing there land. I doubt you could muster enough military force if you brought only middle class educated BA and getho gang bangers will only make it become another Liberia

Humm, well hopefully if such a nation ever comes about, we'll see how such rebels make out. It should be interesting.

GooseBaba: Will this AA movement also receive billions of dollars in aid from the pocket of US taxpayers? Would they also be seen as friends and allies of the US? If no..! Then I give them Liberian status...

Most likely yes, the US gov. would want to make to have their hand in on the situation.. which is ok, to an extent. The goal isn't to shatter our connection to the US, we'd obviously would want to maintain a strong connection to our homeland, where many of the citizens' family and friends and more will still be present, but such investment will only be supplementary to the greater form of investment in which will be independently obtained.

Michaeljones36: As an Akata/African American I can say that this idea is unnecessary. Here are some realistic options...

1. Move to an African country and set up your life there. I am planning on moving to Nigeria once I finish college and my masters degree to get involved in the many business opportunities. 

2. Move to a majority black country in the Americas. Jamaica is a good example. Hell, you could even move to Atlanta, Georgia.

If African Americans were a country, we would have a total GDP of 1.15 trillion dollars. That is equal to the GDP of the entire African continent in 2013. Why should AA's let Chinese and Europeans get all the benefits of investing in Africa's growth? If AA's and Africans work together we can build a powerful, rich continent where everyone is welcome.

Get involved in the African renaissance, don't try to start some separate country.

You know as well as I do that such will be ok up to the point when large communities of AA start taking over the economics of an are via pure numbers and economic strength, then as usually is the case in Africa, the natives of these areas will go tribal and claim we are trying to overlord them and push them out of certain areas, and next thing you know... they're gonna want to try and terrorize our presence and push us out by force, in which will simply lead to us Bleep-ing them up and us looking like the bad guys for picking on the poor natives; from there things spiral in to mayhem. It's just how Africa works; it's extremely tribal to a fault, and this is why I say that for any large AA presence to exist without conflict, it'll have to be done in our own nation, and from their we'd be able to help push economic growth throughout the continent.

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@Op, I think you answer my previous questions in this piece. I am shocked at your proposal, especially when you are explaining in detail. Meaning you want to come back here to
1.Take advantage of the riches of this land and lock out natives of that land

LOL. No use of the resources of the area in which is obtained, is an obvious end factor of the greater goal of simply obtaining an independent nation, obviously. The effort won't be for some land grab effort to obtain natural resources but rather for the acquisition of an independent state. I'd consider it a right obtained in the name of our ancestors stolen from the continent centuries ago by both fellow African and European captures.

2. You have no interest in the people or the culture of African

I wouldn't say that. I and many other AA have great interest in such, and many other don't, but neither has any regard in the effort of discussion.. in that it is totally focused on the interest and preservation obtained as an independent people of African descent in America. We will not come to become indoctrinated, but rather to come and remain as we are, and share in what ever we can offer to fellow african nations and take in from them whatever we see as viable to our own growth. Same as any other relationship between separate peoples and nations the world round.

3. Want to come and build another America in Africa

Well we are Americans, so it's only common sense that we would build a nation in which will highly resemble the land in which we come from. This has been the case with the migration of people throughout time. If you go to German settled areas of the US, you'll notice that a lot of the homes and other structures are built in typical German style, same as if you were to go to a traditional Italian, Spanish or French area of the nation.

4. Are you familiar with the of "Apartheid system" in SA? Those people were thinking exactly like you do.

Humm, somewhat but not totally. They actually came to steal the land and in time have little to nothing to do with any Africans anywhere on the continent. This is not what is proposed in this plan. What is proposed is, for an African nation to either voluntarily give up a piece of land free of charge, and or to sell it off to the migrants. All those who legitimately own land in the area given will be compensated, and if the area just has maybe a several thousand natives living there they may even be allowed to just stay in the nation as citizens with all the rights, and means as the rest. No Liberia repeat.

5. More specifically your idea sounds more like a so called "Afrikaaner homeland" Oranje in the Free state. Please google
this and see if you are not having the same aspirations as this
folks?

Not really, a major difference is that there wont be any natives in this nation preferably, but if it comes to incorporating some few thousand who live on the land into the nation then it'll obviously be done so to the fullest, via compensation for the land in which is documented as being of the ownership of any single individual(s); full rights under the established constitution will be given to them, though that ((maybe)) short of actually being able to obtain some certain levels of government, such as president, vice president, secretary of State and other critically high positions. That is in regard to the fact of the matter of that the nation is being established as an "AA/Diaspora nation".. PERIOD, in which such natives will given rights to remain in as citizens, for the simple fact of that they were there prior to the establishment of the nation... such is to be assessed and voted on by the a judicial and congressional body in the establishment of constitutional law for the nation. Other than that, immigration to and visa entry into the nation will be very strictly regulated and monitored.

I envision a nation in were it'll be virtually impossible to obtain citizenship unless you are an AA or other Diaspora and are coming upon being recruited in your nation by a operating company in the new nation, or you've obtained your college education here, and now seek to become a citizen, or you are a spouse and or direct dependent of a citizen in the nation. Illegal immigration into the nation will be virtually impossible, do to the presence of strictly secured entry points and robust security apparatuses along the boarders in which will also be in place for our security, do to the fact of that we'd know that many groups would not like our presence on the continent, and will possibly attempt to due us harm. This is clearly evident by just reading many of the comments here on this thread.

Yeah, one last thing. A military force VERY capable of addressing and handling covertly and or openly any threat to our sovereign statehood once established, and the security of our citizens THROUGHOUT the continent... will be established via direct transfer of professionals from throughout the American security apparatus to this new nation. The nation'll seek a friendly successful interaction with fellow African nations for the benefit of all, but their will be no Fu-cking around when it comes to it's security. Any threat will be met PROMPTLY and COMPLETELY by all means necessary, and make no mistake that the means obtained to act will run VERY deep. With this nation's economic standings it could be your best partner or it could be one of your worst threats.

sweetcheecks: @Op, it really depends on why you feel the need to come back? Is it becouse you want a land or country that you can call your own? Or is it becouse you want to be in Africa as home? Or are there any other reasons?

I for one know manny AA who have moved permanently to SA and are living in the affluent surburbs and are happy and have their community churches and social gathering/ fiests every now and then. They seem to be quite happy with their lives and have assimulated well to the country.

I think your response to this will shed more light in answering your question.

I think I've explained the reasoning pretty well in prior posts, so if you'd like a detailed explanation, just go back to the first two pages and read my posts, but in brief your first reason given is most accurate, with a heavy economic component additive associated with such desire. I explained it all very well in prior posts.

redsun: Imminent western invasion.

Yup, it's coming real soon, first starting with drones.

Gomachi: (CNN) -- Night had fallen. Some 20 airplane passengers had taken their seats for the short hop from Brussels, Belgium, to Zurich, Switzerland.
Unknown to them, a precious cargo was being loaded into the airplane hold along with their suitcases: $50 million in rough and polished diamonds.
But the diamonds would never reach their final destination.
Shortly before 8 p.m. Monday, eight masked men in two vehicles burst through the perimeter fence of Brussels Airport and sped toward the aircraft on the tarmac.
The men, who authorities said wore clothing resembling police uniforms, were heavily armed.
Masked thieves steal diamonds How thieves got $50M in diamonds Race on to find stolen rough diamonds
While no shots were fired and no one was injured, the pilot, co-pilot and a transport security guard were all threatened at gunpoint, said Ine Van Wymersch, of the Public Prosecutor's Office in Brussels.
Within three minutes, the thieves had snatched the diamonds from the hold, said airport spokesman Jan Van der Cruysse.
Drag queens, fake beards and chocolates: Notable diamond heists
Moments later they left the scene, racing out through the same breach in the airport periphery through which they had entered.
The robbers, four in each car, had broken a hole in the fence where it ran between two construction sites, Van Wymersch said at a news conference.
"This was a very precise, almost military-organized and well-executed robbery," Van der Cruysse said.
He said it was a "big surprise" that such a slick heist been possible -- but pointed the finger at organized crime.
"We are an airport that is, as all international airports are, subject to very strict aviation security and safety regulations," he said.
The aircraft targeted was a regular passenger flight operated by Helvetic Airways on behalf of Swiss, Switzerland's national airline.
It's not yet clear how the thieves knew that the diamonds would be on board.
But this was not a chance holdup, said Van Wymersch, describing the men involved as "professionals."
Antwerp, the city known as the world's diamond-cutting capital, lies only about 25 miles away from Brussels.
The Antwerp World Diamond Centre has on average $200 million in stones coming in and out daily, and it takes security very seriously, a spokesman told CNN.
He was unable to confirm reports that gold and platinum were stolen along with the diamonds.
It's not the first time that Antwerp's centuries-old diamond trade has been targeted.
The city was the scene of a spectacular robbery in 2003 when thieves made off with the contents of more than 100 safes at the diamond center. Those gems were never recovered.
Some 34,000 jobs in the city are connected to the diamond trade, according to the Antwerp World Diamond Centre, from mining company representatives to dealers to the craftsmen who polish the stones.

LOL, this is funny. If that had happened here in the US, they'd of been shot to swiss cheese before even making it to the plane.

Gomachi: By ADAM NOSSITER
Published: February 19, 2013

LAGOS, Nigeria — Seven French tourists, including four children, were kidnapped in northern Cameroon on Tuesday, the second large-scale hostage-taking in the region in four days. The French president and foreign minister pointed the finger at Islamist terrorist groups operating across the border in northeast Nigeria, possibly including the deadly Boko Haram organization.

The family was seized near a national park in the far north.

The kidnappings appeared to be part of the widening fallout from France’s military intervention against Islamist militants in northern Mali. Though French officials did not explicitly link the two in their statements on Tuesday, they invoked them together and vowed to continue the Mali campaign. All told, about 15 French citizens are now being held captive in West Africa.

The seven kidnapped on Tuesday are all members of the same family who live in Yaoundé, Cameroon’s capital. They camped on Monday night in Waza National Park in the far north of Cameroon and set out early Tuesday for the animal reserve of Kalamaloue, where they were going to view elephants, a Cameroon park official said. A security official said the group was seized near Dabanga, a frontier town, and was then taken across the Nigerian border into a region of semidesert and scrub where Boko Haram has its base.

Over the past four years, the region has faced dozens of assaults by the terrorist group, including bombings, ambushes and other attacks on civilians and security forces. Harsh counterterrorism tactics by the Nigerian security forces have only marginally damped the campaign.

The French energy company GDF Suez said Tuesday that one of the seven captives was a company employee based in Yaoundé who was involved in developing a natural gas liquefaction plant planned for southern Cameroon. A company spokeswoman confirmed that the man and his six relatives were vacationing in the far north when they were seized.

President François Hollande of France, speaking to reporters in Athens, said the kidnappers were “a terrorist group that we are familiar with, and that is in Nigeria,” adding that “the likeliest possibility is that they were taken to Nigeria.”

Laurent Fabius, the foreign minister, was more explicit, saying in Paris that the location of the attack, near the border and the Nigerian city of Maiduguri, where Boko Harum was founded, was “why we think it might be this sect.”

Boko Haram’s campaign of violence against the Nigerian security forces — by some estimates claiming 800 lives last year — had not previously included kidnappings. But they have increasingly become a regular tactic of a breakaway group, Ansaru, which has claimed responsibility for several recent abductions in the region, including seven foreigners taken from a Lebanese construction company’s compound in northern Nigeria on Saturday night. The attackers used dynamite on a protective wall, killed a security guard and took over the compound, taking away an Italian, a Greek, an Englishman, three Lebanese and a Filipino. The group issued a statement linking the kidnapping to the French intervention in Mali.

As of Tuesday night, no group had claimed responsibility for the latest kidnapping, which came on a day of fierce engagements between French and Islamist forces in the desolate desert terrain of northeastern Mali. A French paratrooper was killed in the fighting, the second French fatality in what Mr. Hollande called “the final phase of the operation in Mali.”

Cameroonian and Nigerian authorities had little to say on Tuesday about the abduction of the tourists. Cameroon’s information minister, Issa Tchiroma Bakary, declined to confirm to reporters that the family had been seized and did not respond to later phone calls seeking comment.

In Nigeria, where the ability of terrorist groups to operate relatively unhindered has become an embarrassment to the authorities, an official in Maiduguri dismissed reports that the French captives had been taken across the border into the country.

Yup, it wont be long now. I hope you'all living in Nigeria are preparing for those drones. I'll give it a few more months.

MsDarkSkin:

blyss!! you're on one!!
do you hear me?!

anyway i am out!
before 'my friend' unleashes his "nigggggggggggers" wrath.

Hey, inquisitive minds want to know.

Paganist attributes.

pleep: im saying a bunch of A.A's from the Brox wont last a month in Africa with no, AC, electricty etc. And it would take you up to ten years to create that stuff from scratch.

LOl, funny.. but nothing more than a presumption. But what exactly is your fascination with the Bronx? That's like the second time you made a reference to Bronx in regard to this topic. I find that rather odd considering that the vast majority of the AA population doesn't live in the Bronx, or even the Northern part of the nation period. Most live in the much warmer South of the Nation, with the highest concentrations existing in the Gulf states, whom's average yearly temperatures are equivalent to that of many areas of the Central African (Congo) region, as I've shown in an earlier post. On top of that, the very hot South-Western states of the nation have some of the fastest growing black populations in the nation, so obviously heat is not much of an issue.

pleep: With Air-conditioning...

Thats the difference. I cant name a nigga i know that would be willing to stay in Africa for an extended period of time without AC. Hell i cant even do that

Dude, what are you getting at? Are you insinuating that some how developing a nation in Africa will rid us of the capability to develop homes and other dwellings with Air conditioning present within them? Your point seems rather pointless to me.

kikuyu1: What do you mean? I haven't referenced BAs anywhere.

Ok, just asking.

pleep: Africa is as hot as donkey nuts dude.

And so is Arizona, Southern Cali, New Mexico, Nevada and West Texas.. but we do just fine living there.

CAMEROONPRIDE: next u will tell us that corruption is cultural

Yes corruption is part of many, if not most African ethnic groups cultures.

CAMEROONPRIDE: is that cultural ? really? and there is no African culture

No it's not African culture but it is a reality directly related to some inferior African cultural attributes.

CAMEROONPRIDE: i don't know what you mean by african culture because i know Africa does not represent/is not a single culture....anyway i dislike nothing in My culture..i love it .and proud to be who i am ..am proud of my ancestors and proud of what they achieved all over the continent

And what exactly is it that they've achieved in which is so worthy of being proud of?

code.africa:
my wife is kenyan and boy, she knows how to treat her man right.polite, beautiful,sexy and a great cook!i generally liked kenyan girls even before i married. kind and warm. am not sure how true it is that other women envy kikuyu but my wife has never given me that impression anyway(she's not kikuyu). she's too gorgeous and confident to envy anyone!! love my kenyan in-laws.nice thread.am all for kenyan ladies.

Is she Kisii?

Alez: These African americans are full of excuses. These losers actually had it easy. They are lazy and want us to side with them.
More Africans have acquired better education. Do these guys think its easy living in Africa. Am a Ugandan lady who had to study in Idi Amin Dada's regime. Do these fool's think it was easy to be in school while shots are fired right outside your classroom? Do they know how we had to wake up at 3am and dig in the fields, have cassava and water for breakfast and then walk 11 kilometers to school? Do they know how we had to protect rebels in our huts just to see the next day. How my father, then a policeman lost his life since he didn't side with the president and how i missed my final paper in secondary school but was the end of me? did i give up and let the government give me scraps? I fkn had to leave the village and come to Kampala to look for a job and take my self back to school.
Would i have all i have if i had given up?
We Africans value education. Its a shame the African Americans still whine.

LOL @ this fool acting like a little biatch.

bigfrancis21: 1) Concerning the weather conditions, believe me I've lived in Africa considerably and I know how the african weather is. By and large, you can't compare the american weather with the Nigerian weather. Your summer lasts for about 4 months while in many parts of africa it lasts for the whole year. Bring twins, separate them to live in both weathers for some years, let's say 10 years, the overall difference will be obviously clear. In Nigeria here, once you see someone who has spent some time abroad you'll know immediately, even before the person opens his mouth to talk. I personally know several relatives, friends and neighbours who have relocated to US/Canada and have seen the overall skin improvements they've had. This is something I personally attribute to weather conditions.
Spending a few weeks/months for business purposes isn't the same as living in Africa for 10/20 years. Maybe you should relocate to africa for 10 years and get to see things for yourself.

Despite the fact of that on this side of the world we operate upon a quarterly seasonal pattern, is really of no regard when comparing weather patterns around the world. A much more accurate assessment is to base it upon a month to month scale, the average monthly temperatures for the deep south, typically the gulf region, throughout the year is nearly identical to that of Gabon, Republic of Congo, western DR Congo, southern Cameroon and Cabinda province of Angola.

Heres a scale for Libreville, Gabon compared with one from Tampa Florida.
https://www.southtravels.com/africa/gabon/gifs/temperature.jpghttps://dssni5kiwicxb.cloudfront.net/climate/Florida/Tampa/temp.png

As you can see, the yearly temperature levels are nearly the same, with the only difference being that time of year the two regions receive their lowest and highest temperatures during the year. This is simply do to the fact of that they lie on nearly opposite sides of the world.

2) You said it will take less than 30 years to develop the AA african space?? WTF Like seriously?? Common man! Be realistic! America didn't become great in 30 years! UK didn't! What makes you think the AA african country will?

Your main problem here is that you think inside a box of past successes. Those nations you've mentioned were basically land grab nations forged into success via time tested means of slow and steady progression. They weren't fully planned nations as this one will be. Every street, highway, sewage line, electrical line and more will in this new nation will be pre- planned upon the landscape years before even one construction truck breaks its ground. Every city, town and industry will be pre-planned and built in fazes depending on the scale of population growth. Investment funds will not be a problem, this is a fact, as long as the number of AA migrants needed to successfully fulfill the percentages needed to accommodate each faze of development remains at par; this I doubt will be a problem. Billions will liquidly flow into the development yearly from the mother ship USA alone for the reasons I've explained before in my past extended post. Once ground development starts it won't take more than 30 years to achieve that in which I've stated.

Did you even consider the lack of natural resources in the land that could catalyse growth and development? What if the land is utterly lacking in crude oil, coal, bitumen, fertile soil for agricultural purposes etc?

That is the first thing we considered. Hence I desire to get the land from central Africa. Central Africa's mineral density is so vast that no matter where you settle, there's going to be some form of mineral wealth to be had, but in reality that would be of no real use to use in the larger scheme of the society in which we'd aim to develope. We don't seek to developed a natural resource supply state, but rather and nation developing and supplying products on the finished end, as well as one in which feeds off of dividends from infrastructural investments in other nations, such as supermarkets, malls, toll roads, agriculture, banks, schools, communications, insurance and more. This will be worth much, much more to the nations economy than any minerals we could dig up or pump out of the land and sale to some other nation. Besides, most of any mineral deposits we are blessed with, will mostly go toward development of our own industrial growth, but why destroy our land by using up our own when we can easily invest in getting it from one of are neighbors.

Of course you do know that crude oil is the number one natural resource that draws in several of millions of dollars in sales for its host country? And it isn't found everywhere in the world. In addition, the conditions for its formation takes years and requires special natural conditions to be met before it forms. Moreover, mangrove areas are the best areas for crude oil formation and such areas are few in Africa.

Well, like I said Ace, this really will mean nothing to use in the long run, in that we will not be forming a typical natural resource supply based economy as typically is the case with most African nations. If we have some natural resources on our land, then that'll be great, but if not then it really wont be of any great concern to us in that the direction in which we'll be spearheading the economy won't seriously effected in anyway by us not having any natural resources. All around us, other nations will have all that we'll need, and what we'll need won't be much.. in that the vast majority of the nations wealth will be made off of the consumer spending of the African nations we invest our funds in as well as the Caribbean, South America and more. The nation will be much more corporate and light industrial based than heavy industrial.

Well, in the absence of crude oil, other catalysts for growth could be utilized such as establishing great tourism, technology (Japan for example), education etc.
Having access to a port is definitely a good idea and the boundary lines of africa all stretch along the sea coast and any space to be carved out for the AA country will need to be created close to the boundary to enable the presence of a port.
And finally, the development of the AA country won't come in 30 years or anytime close to that number! You got me laughing real hard at this one! ;

Obtaining a piece of land with coastal access is of course a big desire, but it's not a deal breaker based on the type of economy established. But of course if we're given a piece of land locked territory, we'll demand a security on our road and rail transport of goods through our neighboring nations, as well as least access to a sea port or two.

3) @Bolded: what you just wrote up there is only an assumption. You haven't yet carried out a survey to know the actual opinions of AAs. What if majority don't buy the idea? Even if majority agree on paper, the number that may relocate will be far less than the opinion indicated on paper. Believe me, I have conversed with many AAs and some of them just don't want to have anything to do with africa. Many just don't care about africa, its people and culture, or its historical past. Its just a few that care. Many even hate being called 'african americans' and would rather have you call them 'black americans'. But I guess attitudes change with time.

I'm a well traveled, well informed AA, with extensive exposure to the professional and none-professional community, this is how I know. Most will not be interested in this venture, based on some idea of coming back to the motherland to become chummy with the local Africans. No most will be doing so for total AA based self-fulfilling reasons. They'd want the nation to be nearly totally AA; this means unless you are invited by a local entity into the nation for official business or a short visit for vacationing or visitations purposes, you will not be allowed in, and visa affairs will be heavily monitored.

This means if you have been allowed to come in to handle your business for 3 months, then on or by that expiration date of that 3rd month, you better not be still residing in the nation, unless an extension has been given. If you overstay your visa period by even one day, you will be hunted down and thrown out promptly, and not allowed to return for an extensive amount of time to be determined based on the reason for your tardiness. NO EXCEPTIONS!! Boarders will be secured will a robust redundant electrical fencing network, and pill boxes, as well being staffed with a border patrol 24/7 and all boarder entry points into and out of the nation will be heavily secured. The only non-AA or Diasporan, if the nation is a conglomerate creation between diaspora blacks, that will be allowed citizenship will be those whom are married into the immediate family of the AA/Diasporan citizen of the nation, and any child or parent dependent of that spouse.

Dudu_Negro: Odumchi,

you could have used a far better analogy than the wealthy chinese chasing an unattainable american dream.

first, this chinese has no american roots and so would be considered an immigrant to the american soil.

second, these people blyss is talking about have roots in the african soil and so they will not be immigrants but rather resettlers - sons and daughters of africa. they have right of ownership to be here, but the question is where?

third, the current political sovereingties in africa are the result of land grab, none of the countries have an indigenous charter of statehood....they are legacies of colonial institutions created by foreign powers.

fourth, there's a bill currently sitting in the nigerian national assembly titled reserved grazing land. this bill is intended to do exactly what you opposed in the bold, i.e. disposess people of their ancestral lands and zone it off as a national grazing land for a special interest group.

fifth, if this bill passes into law, then we will have precedence to use as proof that a colony or reservation can be allocated for special interest groups to run their business and life.

sixth, there are lands already in other west african countries practicing the grazing land reserve for pastoral farming and with success. the nigerian case is different and it would be opposed here due to the friction between ethnic groups and particularly the bad track of relationship between fulani and local farmers.

Good points.

Dudu_Negro: Blyss,

i believe the idea is a noble one. a reserved colony for their resettlement will be the best.

A colony? Well if that means a piece of land maintained under the extended authority of the nation provided the land, then no.. that will not be in the interest of myself or any of the other AA I've spoken to about this issue. Full autonomy or nothing is what we'd desire.