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[quote author=Oluwatola5][/quote]Alright.

Oluwatola5: Sir take a look at what you earlier posted, you mean you were expecting us to portray this in the course of the debate? If we had done this and if you were to be a judge, you mean you would have scored this as a point knowing FULL well that we were on the supporting side of the topic? I dont get this at all.

Oluwatola5: Still my questions werent answered, but i will end it here. Thanks all the same

I didnt say you should expose your weak points to the judges.

But the question I indirectly asked by my posts is this: If your opponent gave those strongly convincing points (counter arguments), do you have counter counter arguments?

I am still a learner

Oluwatola5: Sir take a look at what you earlier posted, you mean you were expecting us to portray this in the course of the debate? If we had done this and if you were to be a judge, you mean you would have scored this as a point knowing FULL well that we were on the supporting side of the topic? I dont get this at all.

I finally found it.

I am not an expert in debate. But I will answer this to the best of my ability for the sole purpose of learning.

When preparing for a debate, you cant be certain about how your opponent thinks and how knowlegeable he or she is. Therfore it is very important that after thinking as someone who is opposing, you also need to think as someone who is supporting, then you can prepare the counter arguments.

I am very sure that you also believe that had it been the opponent raise the points I raised, the debate would have been tougher for you.

When I raised those points, I already had the counter arguments because have thought both like someone that is opposing and supporting. This is where the question of how sound and knowledgeable you are about the subject comes in. You escaped because your opponent appeared to be ignorant of these. But sebsequently do you know how sound your opponent will be?

Rebuttal stage is also meant for showing the weak points of your opponent's arguments because the juges may not even notice that.

Had your opponent did this, the battle of the wits would have been tougher for OAU team.

Also, the judges may look at those directions and your argument may not convince them. As emphatic as those points appear, they are not without counter arguments.

Oluwatola5: The question is on page 6 but you can as well forget it sir.

Thanks, I will check now

Fynestboi: tuale how was the wedding

Splendid! I will send the cake through electomagnetic wave

Fynestboi:

My Oga, weldone ooo.

Mr fineboy

I wish you the best of God

Ariyke: ok we are all here to learn

You are right ma'am

Oluwatola5: #sighs# Okay sir, thanks a lot sir. You evaded a question of mine, but i will pretend i didnt notice

Ouch! Oya, tell me I will if I can answer it

Ariyke: in actual fact u did just that

It may superficially appear like that, but in all honesty that was not the intention.

I believe other debaters have learnt from it.

Oluwatola5: Well i do, and thanks a lot

Oluwatola5: Alright sir, i dont want to prolong this, thanks for the critiques sir, i will keep them in mind, thanks for reading our debate as well sir.

#exhale loudly#
Praise God! At last you understand the undertone of my posts.

@Madam Tola
You took my post as if I wrote intentionally against OAU team, it was direct to FUNAAB team to see what I think are opportunities for them and those things they should have done

If you know who I am, you will be sure I am neither for nor against OAU team because I made it clear that you deserve the victory

Oluwatola5: Not at all sir, i hold words from critics in high esteem, you just sounded like we should mention the good side, and if we had, i am sure that you know it would have been used against us as ''contradicting our points''. All the same, thank you!!!

I am not saying you should contradict your points. But if you you were asked those questions how would you have escaped? I am only trying to broaden the scope.

Also remember that, I am only giving my opinions to widen things.

Oluwatola5: Okay, but actually i didnt misunderstand you, your posts sounded too emphantic and as there are two sides to a coin, you can totally say that side A is right while side B is wrong, if i had been told to oppose the motion, i would have given it my full weight too, it isnt like one totally agrees with the topic he/she is told to debate on, you only just act like you are all about it and you totally agree with it, it is all formalty.

As a matter of fact, I am not for nor against any party in the debate.

I would have loved that you understand my posts. That will be my greatest joy tonight

Oluwatola5: Sorry, but bro this is a debate, everyone takes to his/her side and delibrately blinds his/her eyes to that of his opponents, you should be aware of this better than anyone else, i must say this your posts are totally uncalled for, if you dont like the fact we won, well no problem, i have nothing to say about that. But pls, your figure to me is that of respect, i dont want to lose that.

I am only exposing what I think is the weak points of your arguments. You deserve the victory, it is very clear. But had it been you had a different opponent or your opponent looked at those directions it would have been tougher. It is a lesson for both parties

Remember, we are all learning and you still have more debates ahead of you.

If you look at those weak points now you will be able to avoid them subsequently. Your opponents in other debates ahead of you can take the advantage. Or do you want me to only give you kudos and not help on how to improve subsequently?

[quote author=♥Dεs•Chγκσ♥]Yeah.. I don't know how I missed that. OAU's argument was just centered on 'killings'. Lacked more points. I've been a victim of this in the pioneer debate whose topic was 'Strike in the education sector'.. I spoke solely on ASUU strike and that almost cost me qualification. Take care to expantiate on more points.[/quote]I thought I was the only one who noticed it. But thank God the opponent didnt look at that direction

Oluwatola5: Sorry, but bro this is a debate, everyone takes to his/her side and delibrately blinds his/her eyes to that of his opponents, you should be aware of this better than anyone else, i must say this your posts are totally uncalled for, if you dont like the fact we won, well no problem, i have nothing to say about that. But pls, your figure to me is that of respect, i dont want to lose that.

OH! You misunderstood the purpose of my posts. They are only meant to help the other side to know what I think they should have put forward. You deserve the victory, it is very obvious. I believe you understand critical arguments.

Oluwatola5: I see this as a serious allegation and i must debunk it, i made mention of other zones, although i didnt specifically mention them one by one. But if you read my essay and my rebuttals you would see this i touched all areas within my knowledge. And the Boko Haram you mentioned, i never stressed, neither did my opponent stress that they were after the corps members, i think you got biased before reading that was why you thought our debate was myopic.

I am a coordinator, I wont take up the challenge to enter a debate here. I am not bias, I am only being critical.

You are brave ma'am. You and the other speaker did well.

To OAU team, you have received many kudos, I will also give you mine, it cant be too much. Congratulations. You won!

FUNAAB first speaker I doff my cap. You are brave. Despite the fact that you are alone you fought gallantly. Hope the second speaker is fine?

OAU team stress political issues as ethnical. They subtly suggest seccession by opposing the motion with those points. The only point they made was insecurity with just 2 examples. After 2011 election, how many corps members have been killed.

They made the audience think that those from the same tribe dont kill each other. We have evidence against this everyday in our news.

Chai!!! I came late. #Wedding things#

Have read the presentations, wonderful performance from all participants.

The topic pitched it net at OAU's camp becaue they opposed the motion. They shrewdingly commit fallacy of misericordion by ONLY appealing to the pity of the audience and the judges. They over painted the death of 10 corps members in 2011 and effect of boko haram. They made people to see their death as ethnical instead of political, they made boko haram to appear as against corp members only. Didnt boko haram killed those that are hausa? How are you sure boko haram members are only northerners?

They opponent failed to counter their loose arguments by asking questions like: how many corp members have been killed by boko haram? Are boko haram guys killing only those from other tribe? How many states are affected by this insecurity?


OAU team seems to be myopic by only talking about hausa and Igbo. What of Igbo and Yoruba? How many Northern states are affected by boko haram? Must we be totally stop the program just because of very few state?

But OAU team made the best out of the opportunity of opposing.

Obafemi Awolowo

boay: Please consider for front page
https://www.nairaland.com/1542817/unemployability-nigerian-graduates

please front page material

[quote author=Missy_B]I have been very busy so forgive me if some threads are yet to be dealt with...before the end of the week I should settle the cake issue.
I have no reason to move your thread and deliberately leave other members'.

@ boay,
Ok. Thanks[/quote]Please I dont understand

bennygreat1: Very Correct Man.. Buh tell Me!!! Did U mean to tell Me you didn't crack ur brain for this

I only did the calculation.

Thanks FUNAAB. I received your anthem and appraisal

Oluwatola5: Bro please dont unleash our appraisal yet oo, let it thrill people on the D-day, let them read and marvel and even envy the greatness of Great Ife. Let them know that OAU is a school with a difference and with loadz of ''Efizzies''. The appraisal is just like an oriki or more like eulogising your school, no big deal about it, you just have to think and write something, in poetry style, @Boay, dont forget to post our anthem too oo, we sent both.

Alright ma. Thanks madam. I believe you have answered his question

Simple question!
Let
x=age of the girl
y=age of the mother
z=age of the father

x=19, y=38, z=43.

Tell me if I am right.

Nice! Please let the cat out of the bag. Introduce it to us