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This is Ferguson talking about the Hazard deal

patrickmuf:
Hazard even posted that he is joining the European champions. It had nothing to do with money but the preference of Hazard...Chelsea winning the UCL ultimately pushed them ahead of us.

Baba it was about the money. United pulled out of the deal due to the fee Lille where demanding and agent fee. Chelsea had no problem with that and got Hazard.

Leyqute:
Ferguson or the Glazers?

Don’t you think it’s strange how a coach that’s known for breaking British transfer records suddenly thinks buying Hasard for 34m is too much?

It was Ferguson especially regarding the agent fee.

patrickmuf:
In the summer of 2012, we would have signed Hazard if not that Chelsea won the UCL...It's that appeal that made him sign for Chelsea...

Top players want to win trophies and that's why they join clubs where they stand a higher chance of winning trophies...

If Bruno waste his productive years playing for this club where fans think trophies are not indicative of progress, he will score all the goals but when he retires, he will watch De Bruyne inducted into the EPL hall of fame...

The bold is a big lie. We didn't sign Hazard because Ferguson did not rate hazard enough for the club to pay the 34million Lille where asking for him and also the 6million agent fee on top which made United pull out.

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MRTA7:
Fred dropped.

Fred is injured. Not fit to start

Oasis007:


Wuz goin on ere...... no single real Madrid Player will represent Spain at Euro?!

Eric Garcia over Nacho? Enrique is mad or high on weed lol. Why did he only call 24people when the the maximum is 26

Ederson is not really a good shot stopper in my opinion. He hardly keeps City in games with world-class saves. He is always conceding cheap goals

Jodera:
I won't say that's daft, actually if I'm pep I might obviously do same.

Playing against Chelsea with your main players might give an inkling to tuchel on what he's to expect in the final. Knowing how smart tuchel is, I won't give him that pleasure.
Winning it today or winning it next week doesn't matter, what man city needs is a win in any of their remaining matches, so they can still use their next match to win the league. Also, it gives the main players that rest getting into the final.

If I'm pep, I'm not sure I'll lose sleep over this loss. The league is already technically captured, the bigger pix is the UCL and from his squad non played the match bar rodri and diaz.

I don’t buy all of this talk of Pep resting players not to give anything away.

As if Tuchel isn’t going to be aware of how Man City play. He’ll be studying the PSG, Dortmund and all other games they have played with a false 9.

After the FA cup game, today was about sending Chelsea a message and winning the Premier league. Now Chelsea will have a lot of confidence going into the final and questions will rightly be asked if they have Man City number.

One win away from winning the league you make nine changes to your team against an inform Chelsea side and used a formation I can't even understand or explain. Some coaches are just daft sometimes.

weedtaker:
2 in 2 now, concerning the CL final, I trust the bald fraud will be sh!!ting his pants now.

He made nine changes to his team. I don't know how some coaches can be so daft at times.

Jodera:
What of payet? He hated life in London and even acknowledged he hated the weather and environment. That didn't stop him for grabbing a spot for pfa team of the season before forcing his way back to Marseille.

You guys spent on great potentials. Schneiderlin of Southampton then even had more hype than Ndidi presently. The way you guys wanted Ndidi now was how Schneiderlin was highly demanded.

Depay? Who can forget the hype about depay. Almost everyone thought then he'll so shine. Blind made the hype after the world cup and he was cheered too. Herrera and falcao was greatly welcomed. All these potential good signings added with Van persie and Rooney and this made fans dreaming that Man u will at least compete to win the league in seasons to come. Oh, remember van gaal, the coach who did the great run of Netherland in the world cup and also had a rich CV?
You guys were just unlucky, don't made it sound like you spent poorly then.


Only darmian and martial were not so rated wen they were signed. Esp martial with that huge sign on fee.
If that squad and coach performed for at least two seasons, all these Mary-go-round you'd these past few years, you guys wouldn't have had it

Well said bro. Everybody is talking from a point of insight because it didn't go as expected. Spot on about the Ndidi and Schneiderlin part. If we buy ndidi now and 3yrs later he didn't work out some will say we spend the money senselessly.

I just pity the protesters. They are doing absolutely nothing. They think glazers will sell a 3.5Billion dollar asset because of them lol. Nobody will even buy it at the price they would want and anybody buying the club will still have to pay off the debts. They better receive sense and stop making unnecessary noise.

ouzo1:
Yes na, If Dey coach table better project on ground with assurance say na sure win why not. But dey Coach na yes boss type with a short sight.

Don't be naive bro. You think United is City that's backed by an entire nation resources. 350million on only defense? Even Ferguson won't get that.

handelex:
Did he really want to come United? Why then did he leave after just a year also not forgetting the shenanigans from his wife talking shit about Manchester.
United just offered him more money, he didn't want to come here.

Different players move to different teams offering the most money all the time so what's the big deal here. He came to Manchester and couldn't settle.

weedtaker:
Still.. replacing a GOAT player like Ronaldo with Owen, Valencia and Obertan was comedy level.

Those where not Ronaldo replacement, but squad players. We had rooney who was becoming the main man, Nani I think and berbatov who replaced tevez. Valencia was good for a couple of seasons as well.

ouzo1:
Na Pep style be that, he likes to have a lot of options whereas Ole prefers to have a main team. Having a main team you need quality everywhere, u don't just remove anyhw money and buy trash just cuz u want to. So to answer your question, Yes it's sensible to me going by want Pep has achieved so far with Man City.

So you think united will be able to spend 208million on centre back options alone? Then you add fullbacks Walker,Cancelo, Mendy that's 150million plus top? You really believe United can do that?

weedtaker:
Schnerderlin wasn’t bad too, I remember how we were buzzing when we got him, it just didn’t work out. I think LVG had the worst luck here when it comes to transfers.

Depay was a good youngster destined for greater heights, Di Maria just won the MOTM in a CL final, Schnerdelin, Blind, Darmian, Herrera were all hailed as smart business.

Martial was even the signing that had question marks, now he’s the only LVG signing in our books.

Now you understand my point about insight. Back then those deals where celebrated and cheered as grea deals. It's because they didn't turn out great people are trying to act like the club made mistakes back then.

nitrogen:
Your question makes sense. The narrative out there is they have not spent enough on players. On the contrary, they have matched top clubs in terms of spending.

The 700m debt service amount is what people keep talking about, how they could have spent it on players. How many clubs have spent 1.7 to 2 billion on player acquisitions in the last 10 years?

Gbam. The owners have invested enough money into the club in regards to buying players. People that where ready to buy Sancho for 80 to 90million during the pandemic. When it comes to spending money on players they have done their job.

handelex:
Lol how is that not a bad deal. Someone doesn't want to come yet you signed him and a year later he leaves at a lose, bad deals doesn't get worse than that.

I don't understand. Did United put a gun to Di Maria's head and told him he must come to club. He signed the contract because he wanted to come to united. Where are you guys getting your info from?

ouzo1:
What of that Maguire 80 million?

Let's take a look at City backline options

Stones.....50million
Ake.......41million
Dias.......60million
Laporte......57million.…....208million on just their Cb option. When we add fullbacks that's almost 350milion. To that's Sensible spending right?

Leyqute:
60m for DiMaria. 54m for Fred.

What the fvvvck

So that's spending money without Sense to you? Mangala 50million, Mendy 55million and etc are what to you?

Everybody's got some power of insight looking back now.. If any of Owen, Valencia, Di Maria, Depay or Sanchez worked out, this would be a moot discussion about 2009 and we'll be talking of how shrewdly we replaced Ronaldo.

Leyqute:
This is funny.

When City was spending , they were penny pinching. When City started winning titles and they fell back, they started spending money without sense. And when they secured top 4 they stop spending money again. And then they repeat the process.

Spending money without sense to get UCL football.

How does spending money without sense bring about success and trophies?

Can you give just 2 scenarios where united spend money without Sense? What the Bleep... does that even mean?

Panther7:
Who put the scouts there? Abeg
Who puts incompetent people to negotiate deals with other club? Na Ole abi na Pogba?

This is why having conversation with people that have no idea of management practices or how to run an organization is stupid because the type without any knowledge of anything. So you think it's the glazers that appoint Football scouts and the coaches?

Panther7:
It's not about the amount of money spent but the quality of the signings . Imagine, signing a right back that can't attack for 50 million, A midfielder that can't pass for 54 million and a defender that can't head the ball properly for 80 million and you want to win trophies .

Pathetic!

Have the owners spent money on players or not? Is it the glazers that scot players and negotiate deals with other clubs?

Leyqute:
All the top 6 teams have spent better than United in the last decade, except Arsenal. And include Leicester in that list. Go and check. It’s not about throwing money at anything and everything.

When City was building a formidable squad, the Glazerts were relying on an ageing squad to keep delivering the goods. And when they should be wise in the market they were foolish and then set a precedent of being foolish.

I didn't ask for better. I asked how many clubs have outspent United in England over the last 10yrs? Just one City. So don't even act like the owners have not spent enough on players.

Leyqute:
They talk about it as if finding round pegs for round holes is a Herculean task.

Man City owners don’t know much about football and winning trophies but they are smart enough to bring in people who have built structures that have brought in trophies. And they went for them. Pep Gustfiola, Txiki, etc. They also bought players, broke numerous transfer records etc so as to create the atmosphere and structure of perrenial winners.

Watch how they’ll buy a correct striker for Pep when Aguero leaves.

It’s clear that they want the trophies. And soon enough , watch how the money will start trooping in.

With United, it’s the opposite. Money comes first so they don’t care about other things. The people at the top who are responsible for structure and player management haven’t changed much. Murtough, the newly appointed football director or so is rumored to fvck up Haaland’s transfer to United couple of years ago by being negligent and careless. Look at him being rewarded with a new improved role. What does Fletcher have on his CV to justify the role they just handed him?

But you fans want success. When the owners want money. They don’t care about success at all. Ole and underperforming players are a symptom of the system. They pay unnecessary big bucks when it doesn’t merit it and when the situation rises to spend a bit more and achieve success, they fold up.

The only thing keeping United is the brand that SAF worked tirelessly to build for decades. And that brand is quietly fading. When Man City takes over and nobody gives a fvck about United again, these people will sell the club and move onto the next victim.

The bold is ironic. Success breeds more money so they are easily interwoven. How many clubs in England have outspent us on transfers over the last 10yrs?

odizeey:
Oga comot for my mentions abeg. No be you I quote

Oga stop posting nonsense here.

DumaEmpire:
PSG will be wishing they had agitated for the Super league now. Cos with the looks of things UCL seems like a dream too far

Last season.... Final
This season..... Semi final and can possibly reach another Final.

How many years did it take your club spending Russian money to win your only champions league title?

odizeey:
Go and and ask sofascores. Wetyn concern me.

Was it sofascore that posted your nonsense here?

odizeey:
person wen no serious. Notice how he stopped rolling when they were losing.

The guy na ode

The other players that where standing and not rolling, what did they do in the entire match?