₦airaland Forum

FrontPageLawyer:
Waste of taxpayers money. "Uncle Sylva if you want the certificate go and collect it from INEC"

abi?

PAINGAIN:
Hmmm. But how come na only states won by pdp dem dey do election reruns? Does it mean that apc won their states fair and square?

my brodaaaaaaaA!

that one na jamb question oh!

charix:
Keep the people blissfully ignorant of the western world and they'd see no need for democracy or ousting a family which's ruled for three generations. If you want indepth view of this watch a few documentaries of the country on YouTube. There's an abundance of unbiased visits to the country by freelance journalists so it's obvious western media has no hand in twisting 'facts' to fit their view.

and the ones struggling to make it past the border into China, Russia and from there elsewhere are they also blissfully ignorant? your semantics is defeating your argument, your term "blissfully ignorant" is a misnomer, ignorant to an extent I can agree with but believe this, there's no bliss in it

and do you acknowledge the fact that every single "freelance" journalist is sherperded by an official government minder who decides who and what they see, where they go to, who they talk to e.t.c

boko haram are yet to come to terms with the technicality of their defeat r.i.p to the dead and my condolences to their loved ones albeit it was a technical waste not sacrifice.

charix:
Your point is? You're supporting my point of view. I don't see the problem here.

and how does what I wrote translate into blissful ignorance?

MhizterWalker:
Oga before use start calling hi m names let the court first find him guilty, these days am loosing faith in the independence of the judiciary. After nw wen the court says he is innocent, Una tyrant president will still detain him. The only reason Olisa Metuh is arrested is because he opposes buhari's dictorial leadership style. They are silently killing the gains the PDP made in democracy. I will rest Mt vase here. Until further notice

ignore these zombies, they can't see further than their noses or extrapolate beyond the propaganda they're spoonfed.

charix:
The Arab Spring, the war in Ukraine, the Chinese umbrella movement and the 2012 subsidy protests were started by human beings.

and none in north Korea ...............

if you want to geld a beast, you must know and understand the nature of that beast, north Koreans know the nature of their beast (the Kim un's) and prefer protecting the lives of their families by conforming and you're here philosophizing, go and help them start an uprising na, only remember CNN, BCC and al jazeera won't be there to cover Yoi and you'll die unheard of GOD forbid.

charix:
Na them know. Its the people that make a government, never the other way around.
If the people decide today, this very day, this very second, minute and hour to collectively topple the government there, nobody can stop them. The only chance of this not happening is if the country comprises of only ten citizens of which to my knowledge is not the case.

keep dreaming dreamer, reality is always harsh on people like you.

Exxit:
nigerians are blessed with freedom of speech and rights, unlike N. KOREA. they have their own cyber platform in where they can use the net. in that platform, nothing like google, you tube etc. We are blessed with the freedom we in naija have.

yeah!
right!
freedom until another social media regulation bill comes up.

the freedom you have is courtesy of the previous government, this government is trying hard to corrode that freedom

but Buhari wouldn't dare na! the whole idea is to tarnish names and personalities in the court of public opinion, anyway since he has challenged EFCC to take him to court, attorney general, chief justice omenka should do the needful


funny Buhari can feel he has the powers to order somebody released in the first place, he's obviously arbiter and jury now. #notodictatorship

and yet, many zombies are dancing to the "Sai buhari" tune even with the glaring similarities

SIRTee15:
I hope u know building new steel plants cost billions of dollars........
And if u're thinking of private investment........sorry, but the present global steel glut doesn't make steel business a profitable venture to warrant such huge investment for now.
There's nothing wrong with the 5 steel mills in this country: ajaokuta, aladja, jos, katsina and osogbo.
All they need is modern facility upgrade, regular maintenance and strong political will to make them work.
The ukranians we are inviting to help us maintain our steel plants has 100 years old steel foundaries still functioning.
Forget IMF, they said the same thing to Egypt and Pakistan, yet these 2 countries are steel producers.
Even if we build new plants, we still need to protect them from chinese cheap steel and people should forget about profit making from local steel production.......that's not just possible for now.

do a bit of research on this one, I think building a new foundry will be cheaper than revamping ajaokuta. billions($) has been expended on it in the past and it still remains a dump, I offer you no better argument than that.

code66:
.....Y re u fighting against revamping Ajaokuta steel?.... what do u stand to gain?.....is Nigerian govt begging you for money?........u seem embittered at d thought of making Nigeria great........U MUST BE A CHINESE

clemzo101:
ur epistle make me laugh.for the records, I'm not APC, I use to be more PDP Dan u are. But I'm not of the skool of thought dat sticks to a politician even when he's obviously performing badly. I support Buhati today in all he's doing because I see dat he's sincere in trying to bring back the lost glory of Nigeria. But i can assure u dat as soon as he derails I will be d first to criticize him. Weda u like it or not.......Jonathan wasted 6yrs, he under achieved, dat was d main reason he was defeated squarely. NOI contributed to Jonathan's failure. Ajaokuta must work, nothing u or anybody can do about it......all dats needed is a strong political will, Oga Buhari has it......so my hopes are high for the place, one day it will bcom the pride of the nation. Peace out

if you're the best the APC propaganda factory can push foward on this topic, do yourselves a favour and swerve to the left, I have no interest in educating people who are either to thick or too brainwashed to fathom anything beyond their noses

funny how am being transformed from a PDP beneficiary to a Chinese saboteur all in one thread

funlord:


Please me and this olodos parents have tried for years to cure him of his psychotic ways of expressing himself and to change his ways but it seems the curse on his destiny is quite strong!

Viewers should assist us in treating his condition by giving the baboon a public shaming! "Kindly click like if you think he made no sense or share if you believe he has a point!"

sorry dude, i'll have to disagree with you on this one, dude kinda has a point.

Wallie:
The highlighted is EXACTLY the point lost on a lot of people. It is true that there are immediate benefits to cheaper products but at what long-term costs? Why do you think our manufacturing industry is comatose? We are a decade or two away from competing head-to-head with developed countries when it comes to manufacturing. They will almost always produce cheaper goods than we can manufacture locally, especially when the goods are sourced from Asia. However, simply throwing open our boarders is what got us to where we are today with the high unsustainable unemployment rate! We are lucky enough to have the population to consume and somewhat of a middle class to buy most goods but we are wholly inefficient when it comes to manufacturing due to production costs and lack of technology.

However, every planned country has a multitude of industries that they protect from competition either through tariffs, quotas, subsidies, and/or laws. Some things are just so important to a country’s vital interest that they are done locally even though it would have been cheaper to produce outside. I know for a fact that the US protects the following industries from external competition: defense, agriculture, oil and gas, and some technologies.

Something has to give as there is no free lunch! If we want large scale employment, we will have to manufacture more and import less. There are no two ways about it unless we become a service-based economy, which is not currently feasible because we lack the knowledge. Right now, for every ton of steel we buy, we are employing workers and enriching companies in China that mine for iron ores, manufacture steel, and transport steel. And this is just ONE industry! Any wonder why we have no foreign exchange!

By the way, I do believe that there’s not a single steel mill in Africa even though South Africa has proven iron ore reserves!

I agree with you that we need local and preferably indigenously owned steel foundaries to give our manufacturing sector a jolt of life but frankly speaking, ajaokuta and aladja as they exist today, are not the answers as not only will the government need to protect them from competition, they'll also need to subsidize their operations, raw materials and finished products, and we are not buoyant enough an economy to be able to afford that at this point in time and in the nearest foreseeable future, so ppp new foundaries are our solution and the earlier we put effort into that, the better

clemzo101:
u must be one of dos dat ate from Jonathan govt, don't worry even if u are not caught, dos gains will waste away somehow......how can u be defending Jonathan and NOI despite all the obvious evidences. Weds I like it or not Jonathan killed dis country, wherever he is now he shld be filled with regrets, sharing tax payers money to friends and allies without ignominy, its a shame. GEJ govt never tried building any steel coy oga. Even if the steel mill is not active, the list that cld ve happened is allowing each of the sub sections function......the rolling mills, the power plant, oxygen plant, power equipment repair shops, chemical shop, central mentainance just to mention a few......the last I heard is dat dis various sections still collect contracts from big companies...,so many brains dere, so many experienced engineers, and u come here to write trash about Ajaokuta......even if govt isn't interested I steel let d oda departments function at full capacity. The place is too big to be abandoned.

let's pretend you're right and I ate money does it still make my analysis a lie? I know in your eagerness to villify NOI & GEJ anything & everything becomes fair game, yes when I spoke, I spoke against a tide of propaganda brainwashed ignoramus(es) who were swallowing everything hook, line and sinker and the propaganda machine fighting back through you amongst others isn't unexpected but back to the substance of the argument, who're you fooling? will the revamping of any of those sections equate the facility into a functional steel plant? what effing contracts are you claiming they receive? and will the receipt of any of these phantom contracts make any subsection of the facility self sufficient without needing the government to foot the bill for maintenance and pay salaries and other remunerations to the workers? look stop spewing your garbage propaganda as you'll have an impossible task selling it to me look for some gullible sheeple to sell it to as you'll notice they are in abundance on nairaland. in my analysis I not only criticised the write up, I also gave my reason and proffered a solution as we all agree that Nigeria should be producing its own steel, its curious that you didn't say anything about my proffered solution because selling the revamping ajaokuta crappy idea gives you an unfair loophole ay criticizing NOI & GEJ while giving your party an avenue to embezzle and/or waste public funds on another ultimately futile project like the lake chad basin explorations

kestolove95:
Aftr dasuki nd kanu...na dix zakzaky be next

you are wanted on the thread where amaechi allegedly hosted soyinka with N82million or is it the one about fulani herdsmen murdering 15 agatu farmers? can't seem to remember, maybe you'll provide comic relief laced with blatant hypocrisy now hurry along and give us a few laughs

omenka:
Look at all of them up above.

See their comments and you'd know just how pained they are, much less for this news than all the very terrible punches they've received today.

They are simply using this to vent their pent-up anger and frustration at the lack of bad news regarding the admin.

Boko Haram are being routed and can't kill as much people as the wailers would wanna see.

Former PDP Chairman (Wheel-chairman) arrived the court today faking a sick cripple- Baba no even send am.

Their Chief Wailer Nursing Goat Olisa Metuh is cooling off in EFCC cell.

FFK would soon have be invited to have coffee with Magu.

Baba rejected any deal with Lagarde even though she kept eyeing him seductively.

Nnamumudi Kanu is still feeding on watery beans in DSS dungeon.

Etc etc etc.

Sorry dudes, I feel your pains.

Shiite!

and i mistakenly thought you were someone worth picking on......... look at your infantile rant, just look at yourself

so by picking on you I was unwittingly educating you and pushing your I.Q right towards the 0 from a -ve start? my bad

Wallie:
Care expatiate? Based on what I've found so far, they seem to be using an up-to-date method.

Historically the Bessemer process was a major advancement in the production of economical steel, but it has now been entirely replaced by other processes such as the basic oxygen furnace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_mill

The chosen Technology for Steel Production is the time tested Blast-Furnace – Basic Oxygen Furnace route for Steel Production. http://www.ajaokutasteel.com/site/pagef.php?cnt=Company%20Overview

I have very little doubt that the cost of production at Ajaokuta will be a lot higher than China imports. But whether we like it or not, sooner or later, we will have to start manufacturing to keep more of our earnings. Every time we buy imported products we end up subsidizing the workers of the economies that we buy the products from. Free trade with western countries do not benefit us because we have nothing to trade. We are just a dumping ground for every country that manufactures! Here’s the kicker, after paying for imported products with our earnings, those countries will then turn around to loan us some of the money we paid them!

To resolve the cost issue, we can simply limit the import of steel and/or increase the tariffs so that our locally produced ones can compete (even though that will mean that the price of steel will increase, at least, momentarily). Simple. Other western countries do the same thing. Take a look at the map below. Can you give me any rational reason as to why the countries in Africa are the least protected economies?

I don't.disagree with you pertaining to our need to have our steel locally produced and am no expert on this topic but what I read when I read it said ajaokuta wasn't at the same level in terms of machinery and cost effectiveness as modern steel foundaries, what'll be the point of producing expensive steel in Nigeria if steel consumers prefer imported steel because of cheaper price and or better quality? the assertion back then was that the cost of bringing ajaokuta and aladja to modern standards was more than the cost of building brand new steel foundaries

989900:
And you know all these, how?

there's this Indian steel giant whose name I've forgotten who made this particular assessment on ajaokuta some years ago same as mettalurg a Russian steel giant I think and this was when Nigeria was thinking of revamping ajaokuta and aladja, I read it in a paper back then so that's how I know. the recommendation back then was that we build new modern cost effective steel foundaries in a government/private sector partnership and this was what I think the previous admin was planning to do, I think this current admin is being dishonest and simply wants to rubbish NOI & GEJ by any means possible without doing or disregarding previously done feasibility studies

typical case of sentiments overcoming reason, try and sell.ajaokuta to any modern steel maker so that you'll appreciate how little it is worth, ajaokuta's design and methods are synonymous with the 70's when it was designed so revamping it and running it won't and can't be cost productive, apart from the bragging rights of having locally produced steel, the whole enterprise will be running at a loss eventually. a daft sentimental idiot comes here rubbishing a well made decision and ignorant(es) like many of you are thinking with your asses out loud all in the bid to rubbish NOI when we should be trying to woo modern and established steel companies to come and set up foundaries in Nigeria but wait! few or no foreign companies want to invest in buhari's neo-nationalistic Nigeria anymore

DaBullIT:
If Iran attacks Nigeria , USA, Israel, Germany UK will attack them

not this dumbo again!

whitecloth:
Very good bro, but don't you think this will look as if we are on Iran side in the view of the global community? to them it will look as if we are bowing down to there pressure, and more so, there can't be any solidify assurance that el zakzacky will be in exile over there, he'll surely become a hero, and Saudi won't fund it funny to us knowing fully well we have more part in Saudi than Iran.
What's your view ?

trust me on this, before ever the Iranians came out with their public ultimatum they must have tried privately and diplomatically to resolve this issue with buhari and Nigeria to no avail.

kITATITA:
Barcanista, do you see how much others were making frggom the PDP/GEJ project. In your case, you were busy accumulating enemies; fighting Beremx, NgeneUkwenu, Omenka, etc.

I see

and have you discovered the source of buhari's campaign finance? RUBBISH!! #yeyedeysmell

omenka:
Shut up. Your lies will find you out sooner than you imagine. After posting that crap you come here to whitewash yourself hoping to score some cheap endorsements.

How I wish Rule 2 can be suspended right now so I can give you a piece of my mind.

I hope you know the location of the nearest lagoon so help yourself and save us the need

and be careful what you wish for lest you get it and realize retrospectively that you never wanted it.

omenka:
This has gotta be the most idiotic thread of the millenium.

How do some people cope with themselves lying for a living??

Now I'm fully supportive of anything to ensure that darn Social Media bill comes to life.

People like this op need to learn how to be honest the hard way.

[size=30]HYPOCRISY ALERT!!!![/size]
imagine you calling someone else a liar! how rich

and if the social media bill is passed, I think the rest of us want it backdated so we can come for pathological and professional liars like you. hypocrite who fears a taste of his own medicine

maestroz:
nairalanders sha...dey can fear!

see common Iran that is not upto Lagos na im dey scare una ass when the leader says he belongs to everybody and he belongs to nobody. una don forget say na soldier. old soldier no dey die...no shaking guyz

iranu ni iran

omo irankiran ni won.

ignorance really is bliss ......

and you typify ignorance's ignorance so much so I can claim (rightly or wrongly) that the summation of everything you know won't fill the pages of a 20 leaves notebook

100freekiss:
Iran ran to where?

Nigeria can't take on Cameroon in a full blown war , how much more IRAN.

Does Nigeria have Missile defence system to intercept missiles from Iran?

ignore the ignoramus

they think say na AK-47 guerrilla war na im others they run he have tail when levels done change

gigabyte13:
lran wipe out lraq? Haaahaaaa, u can lie oooo, reverse was the case, it was lraq who invaded lran and almost wipe them off. On a more lighter note "when lraq attack lran, lran ran"

either you or whoever wrote that version of the Iraq/iran war you're quoting as being a fact is high on cheap, super enhanced, stale osogbo weed.

100freekiss:
Does Nigeria have Missile defence system to intercept missiles from Iran?

no we have ignorant blockheaded chest beating APC zombies who'll simply wish it away

tonychristopher:
Ignorance is a bliss

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