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kay9:
Ok, try this for size:

Who said this and to whom?

"You and the pretty crow do a lot of talking... And when you done talking, do you get down on your knees and suck his c--?" ^{(the person saying this got interrupted very quickly here )}

The late unlamented head of the thanes to ygritte

obailala:
Firstly, I can you kindly remind us or give details of this 'sharp drop' in oil prices in 2011 which you talk about?... By how much was this drop and for how long did it last as compared to the present drop which has lasted close to 3 straight years?.. This is even inconsequential.

I've just put up another extract of Nigeria's GDP growth rate between mid-2014 and mid-2015 (see below); for you and your friend (luvinhubby) to continuously insist even with your eyes wide open that you cannot see the Nigeria's growth rate was dropping prior to May 29th 2015, for you guys to continuously insist that the drop only occurred after Buhari took over, for you to continuously insist that the only thing which matters is when it crossed the 'zero' line, then I give up. There is absolutely no point engaging you further, I'm out! Congrats to you both, You win!

cc: luvinhubby

I obviously didn't fact check! I used the data you provided, Check the graph you provided or is that cooked up data too?

I would love not to but i can't put it beyond you APC supporters not to tamper with data

Sibrah:
Stop being funny with 'facts'. Buhari cleared GEJ mess with what was suppose to pay our current debts.

Funny you accuse me of being funny with facts

What mess did GEJ leave?

Is it the phantom one the APC's propaganda media jingles around town?

I thought you were smarter than that

freshcvvs:
2 unstable/confused fellow lolz

No wonder they reason the same way yet can't even comprehend each other.

Confused people lolz lol

what happened to getting the DSS to arrest me? or is prophesying abbangs imminent demise not treasonous enough

HARDDON:

Psychologist?
Nah! im an Exocist . I specialize in whooPing d cells of ignorance out of men living like babies!


It annoys me wen i see men drooling ova heaving bo0bs n b00ties uncontrolably. Even in front of their Wives!

I have had to walk out on a meeting i was having @ a kul spot cos d mallam kept eye tracing every soft muchento that breeze by!
Never gave him the job thereafter .


As for all aspiring to be top Executives, the very first thing u need to do as a matter of urgency, is Kill Ur Randy Urge!
You Shld be able to sit infront of a nak3d gurl , even in ur tipsy state, n not be moved.
If not, be ready for scandals n blackmails

I must confess, since you put it like that, i don't go as far as drooling but nigga's got a wandering okulus even horus couldn't pick a hot fig 8 from a multitude better than I I think i might need be purged of my randy demons, problem is, niggA loves 'em

petrov10:
I was referring to the other guy trolling us . abi u nor sabi read book?

I no dey that thread again nau

petrov10:
nothing wey person nor go see for dis apc clowns hand.








I suspect ameachi is behind the handle

Chai!

Abi pessin don swap my I.D?

When i take turn APC clown?

How PDP commando take resemble APC clown?

Bros!! Abeg!!! Check yourself oh!

No shaking for onnoghen!

freshcvvs:
Small boy rant lolz

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha so i still dey anonymous abi?

Abi you check my real profile see my scud missiles, anti-aircraft guns and military expertise na him fear grip you

freshcvvs:
A death threat is no April fool joke.

Fvck you and okon abang!
He'll die untimely and soon
Please threaten me with DSS too

obailala:
This issue has been debated exhaustively on this forum but sentiments completely prevent people like you from comprehending simple things.

Oh yes, recession is a period of negative growth. But I think the logic here is quite simple, it is not only where you fall that matters but also where you tripped and where you started falling. A train is accelerating to a brickwall, it is not only when it hits the wall that matters, it also matters where it starts accelerating towards the wall.

With the above being said, I would leave you with this simple chart showing how Nigeria's growth rate was already plunging into the realm of recession before the last admin bailed out. I dont think I need to explain anything here.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4178677_gdpvscrudeprice2_jpegc5856f214a58ffdca179aefcd84d6ffd

Save your logic for yourself and leave this discussion academic, you brought a table for economic growth compared with oil prices, look back to mid 2011 2nd quarter when there was a sharp dip in oil prices and check our economic growth back then and compare with now!

You float your logic of tripping before falling but by your tables our economy wasn't tripping or falling from 2015 1st quarter to hand over period, even after handover the economy was still steady for a brief period so where do you get your unflattering logic from? Is it from the fall in oil price? Compare that to 2nd quarter 2011 when our economy was even much stronger than what was obtained in 1st quarter 2015 as reference, and before you blame oil price, what other capitalist oil producer is undergoing recession right now? (Don't border bringing up venezuela because you and i know socialism and populism destroyed venezuela's economics before the oil price plunge).
The tripping and falling a.k.a steady decline into recession all took place within buhari's administration alone and your charts alone show that much so stop trying to rationalise the irrational especially after your campaign rhetoric you came highly recommended as the panacea to all ills

Bring a different argument! This one doesn't fly

Sibrah:
for example dollar was going for N230, states were owing salaries due to allocation shortfall, marketers too were owed huge arrears.

And all these lies you mentioned, is according to who? If states owe salaries, how is that the fault of the FG? Are states not supposed to work within their means, under Jonathan, it was mainly osun state and few others that were owing salaries due to financial recklessness and heavy indebtedness (debts that were of no economic gain to the state), so it was never allocation shortfall, those states had to have their external debts serviced first before anything else! And we operate a capitalist economy not a socialist feeding bottle economy that buhari is turning us into! Where was the IGR aregbesola was bragging about back then?

marketers are still being owed today and the bulk of the marketers debt was accrued under buhari, fine, even about the marketers if you supported APC and took part in occupy Nigeria, you have no right to complain because the debt owed marketers was due to the presence of subsidies whose removal you opposed under jonathan only to turn around and support it under buhari, even with the subsidy removal by buhari the cost of fuel sky rocketed even when oil was selling for below $40/barrell, how do you explain that?

And as for the dollars, except you're talking about the black market price, save yourself the lies! You can tell us too, how that compares with today?

And if we were to even accept the lies you told, how does that translate into recession? What do you understand by recession sef?

Will you make a comparism of inflation and unemployment, foreign investor confidence, market ratings, stock market performance then and now too?

jpphilips:
Glad you can still afford internet services.
Not to worry, Buhari will release celestial feeding bottle for dolts like you.

Hey fvcktard!

You know i could always afford a battalion of you for starters, only problem with that is i have absolutely no use for you except as a compost constituent (only i'm not evil enough to want you dead)
I see your trolling licence has been re-activated! What happened to you? Lai muhammed's Budget cuts had you retrenched?? Or your propaganda value or co-efficient wasn't deemed top notch for post election disinformation?

You know your boss here on nairaland so scram back to your hole you maggot! and in case you're confused about its entrance! Sniff your way to your rear end!!

obailala:
A simplified breakdown of my opinion on the matter, contrary to Reno's exoneration of his own boss, the last admin also had a major role to play in getting us to the current mess we find ourselves in the country.

cc: luvinhubby

Remember i am asking for academic analysis not conjectures or theories which you will timeline with statistics, records of economic interventions (or lack of it) and their effects on the economic indices being assessed, and you will backdate it to the previous admin to establish causality that is beyond any reasonable or unreasonable doubt

And for the purpose of disambiguity, recession means negative economic growth, coupled with hyper-inflation, sharp increases in the unemployment rate and low job creation (apart from economic growth, the rest are associated indices not necessarily canon). Fluctuations in positive growth that do not enter the zone of negative growth therefore won't count as recession!

I await your elucidation as your avid student!
Thanks

Blaqchild4eva:
I need not to start writing epistle. Kindly answer this question...

Did GEJ borrowed money to pay civil servant's salary or not?

And whenever or in what economic book or new economy theory/thesis did borrowing to fund recurrent expenditure within one quarter of one fiscal year out of five fiscal years translate into recession or as obailala put it "laying the foundation for recession"? the U.S doubled their debt profile by about $10trillion in the past 8years under obama and apart from the first year or two when they were battling an actual recession, they were never in recession despite being heavily indebted!

What kind of economics did they even teach you in school or are you just bandying the word "recession" about without appreciating its true significance and meaning?

I remember when the previous administration was trying to market itself and Nigeria as having made giant economic strides but the opposition were busy shouting that all the gains were not real but just on paper and of no impact to everyday Nigerians, back then when the term "economy" was just a vague surreal concept but today, under the former opposition, the impact of the economy isn't surreal, it has become the reality we struggle to survive everyday

How is that for turning a smile upside down?

Ten12:
Even more simple than that...please bro just go ahead nd decieve me with such contract documents I promise I wunt read it....if I hear

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

You for no read am nau

Sibrah:
Stop being half smart. The economy was clearly on a decline b4 handover.

Clearly how?
I obviously didn't see it decline back then

Do you mind sharing your cyclopean or is it horussic insight with me?

jpphilips:
Another rat just left his hole.
Mr Omokiri, thank your stars that majority of Nigerians are incredibly ignorant so there is always a segment of the population especially the unintelligent ones who read from your likes, FFk, Abati etc the same media hawks of the previous administration that looked on in silence when they looted us blind is now telling us what wrong this administration is doing to us.
Left for me, you dont deserve any response but I cant wait when you will join some folks in Prison. For the benefit of the unintelligent Nigerians who can barely think for themselves.

** Dangote lost money to the devaluation of the Naira, an economic move necessitated by forex shortages, all our oil producing competitors both OPEC and non OPEC did the same so why do you think Nigeria will have a different solution?
Your boss Jonathan between August 2014 when crude price halved, till May 2015, he devalued the naira from 197 to 220 to a dollar, may be he was stup!d as well.
The man who was tasked with the policy implementation allegedly made a mess of it, the CBN governor not Buhari. He was hired by your boss Jonathan not Buhari so if you and Dangote have any issues with his implementation framework it behooves common sense to write to one of the left overs of your boss's incompetence.

Back to Dangote, while you and I were losing money (ie if you are not too dumb to realise you lost money too) to devaluation, Dangote got more FG concessions than any other Nigerian company I know of, so if Dangote lost money where he made money due to unavoidable circumstances, in insurance it is called "act of God" regardless of what Dangote says in Kenya.


** The crisis in Southern Kaduna though regrettable due to the wanton loss of lives however can be bifurcated in two national security canopies. The herdsmen brigandage and the Shia rampage.
The herdsmen brigandage has gotten the attention of Buhari and the NA has launched Operation Mesa to combat it so far since they started the SE has not been attacked, for kaduna, operation Yaki was launched for the same purpose, personally something is done about the situation and sane Nigerians know that.

What baffles me as a Nigerian is that herdsmen went on rampage under the previous administration you served, as always, nothing was done and mischievous people like you developed leprosy that incapacitated you from writing the same way you are writing unde r the current administration, do you think we are stup!d?
Don't you think that the current herdsmen challenge is a carry over of the inactions and incompetence of the government you served? We have forgiven you guys but do not distract this government that still have the sincerity of purpose to do the right things.

On the Shia rampage, unlike the incompetent administration you served that slept with Boko haram for 4yrs this administration will not do the same, Iran is a huge threat to any country with substansive Sunni population using its Shia minions, so far they have destabilised 7 countries in the middle east, unless you want us to have an Ansarulla Allah or a Hezbollah in our back yard, The present administration has our mandate to crush any clandestine uprising .


**On Anti corruption, I am shocked that an appendage of the previous administration will wish to enlighten us on selective Justice. Where was Justice when your administration was stealing from us?
Incase you are too dumb to notice, the Nigerian people you have been stealing from have decided to bring a government that will teach you guys a lesson, its judgement day baby!! get used to it.


** Babachair Lawal has been stripped of almost all his responsibilities while we wait the outcome of the investigations.

Others should forgive the ad hominem but with this particular maggot i take no prisoners



Have you forgotten the arguments we used to have pre-election? How you fought hard each time to illogically justify and rationalise every irrational and outlandish claim the APC made on their campaign trail?

Talking about holes............... When are you crawling back into your slimy cesspit of lies, deceits and untruths?

Ten12:
haha But u know am black nah nd de gods reveal things to me so u can't hide something from me under any pretense

Well you've already missed many points sorry to say, this will imply that if i want you to sell yourself to me, i will draft a contract promising you N1,000,000 covering 300 pages with terms and conditions starting from page 10 and i will write on page 265 that subsequent to your signing the contract, you and anything you earn will belong to me at no further cost to me because i know you won't read that far then i will open to page 295 and give you to sign yourself to me

So tell me again, is deceiving you that simple?
Are you that kind of black man?

obailala:
When I said the "nation's current predicament", I meant the recession and hyper-inflation; every other thing you mentioned above are constant problems which have always existed (even though Reno craftily makes it sound like they actually started when his boss left).

The primary cause of the current recession is the nation's over dependence on one single volatile commodity for its income. For too long, Nigeria's economy has been directly proportional to oil prices; oil price goes up, the economy flourishes and vice versa. If only genuine attempts were made to diversify the economy in the past, or at least develop certain critical infrastructure (roads, standard rails, more seaports, power etc) which could aid quick diversification, then we wouldn't have found ourselves in the current predicament.

I was simply calling out Pastor Reno for his crafty hypocrisy as he keeps trying to act the saint by passing the entire blame of the mess we find ourselves today to the new admin. Meanwhile all the so called 'rosy' economic indices which he bragged about as achievements of his boss, can he be gracious enough to tell us the exact state of those indices just at the time his boss was about handing over?

Being verbose with words is becoming a trend i see

Since you've established that it is this current recession you're referring to when you used the phrase "laid the foundation' please backdate this recession to the previous government with the objective of establishing causality using a timeline if you may because economic simpletons like me find lofty and long stretched opinions difficult to conceptualise!
And oh! To help me avoid the "crafty hypocrite's" trap too.


I patiently await your academic analysis

obailala:
These shameless thieves (including the ones who front as 'pastor') who laid the foundation of the nation's current predicaments still have the guts to pick a pen and write nonsense about others..

did you say "laid the foundation?"

Honest answer please.................when were you born?

PASCHAL28:
reno, you are not ashamed of yourself. did you read newspapers today? did you see what court told 3 banks about alison money? you cannot fool us again. you are working for your pocket not for nigeria people. I stand with Buhari. You should go and stand with dangote

And when buhari is out of power, his Can of worms will also be opened

Ten12:
U really expected me to read all dat? abi buhari dey argue wit u?

are you the stereotypical black man who if they want to hide something from, they hide it in a book?

HARDDON:
To help u take control of your emotions, u have to learn how to turn down ladies. start by the little things;
turn down that airtime request from that your crush, turn down that ur course mate/colleague lunch request, turn down that outing request, however u may, but subtly, funnily and cockily.

SENSE PILL 1b : for once, have d balls to be brave, be YOU and do things because you want to do them not because they cajole u to!
dont be fooled ladies know exactly what they are doing when they go demanding for things they dont even need and airtime they wud never call you with( this is how mugus and magas are made, this is where friendzoning begins) , it is your duty to fashion responses to deflect their demands and hold your sway.

Bae: babes could you u help me get that over there?
YOU: yea sure, after i'm done with this game..or you can say sure, if only u beat me in this game....we know that game isnt ending soon nor can she beat u, she wud be forced to go get it her self (subtle but very effective).

slowly u grow in this game: from subtle refusal to outright funny ones. the only time u wud master this act is when bae starts touching u, u respond, then when every one is steamy, all cloths off and she launches for ur weapon, remove her hand, she wud try again, remove it still, after the 4th time she tries u can let her, i can bet you it wud be explosive! dont ask me why

then be man enough to turn her outright down one day!

i'm not really in the mood to get down tonight B, just want us to cuddle and kiss thereafter we sleep! she wud try her best but if you can stand your ground, you wud have passed this great test. she wudnt bliv it that a guy can turn her down with his hardness and her wetness! she might act funny thereafter, ignore it..... She knows u r becoming a Man!

the ultimate test in this self control drill is this:

try and hook a new catch, after the 1st - 3rd hang outs, they usually feel comfortable, wanting to come know ur place because you have been deflecting all talks away from where u stay( we wud talk more about this soon. it is a perfect way to have any lady BEG to come know your place instead of you begging to have her over as u have been doing and she has been refusing because she knows what your plans are already! )

so lets say you finally agreed to have her over, and after all said and done, reggae turned blues and u guys are on each other, cloths flying with supersonic speed off your bodies as u kiss( more on this in DRILL NUGGET 3) passionately in anticipation of a sumptuous session,
then just as she pulls u over and want u inside of her, u pull away, sit on the bed for a while thinking, then after a brief moment, pick your boxers and start wearing it! she wud be wondering what is happening, tell her u just lost it, that you gtg now. she wud cajole, implore, seduce and do all possible to have you, DONT YOU YEILD! remember this is a test! and to help you scale tru, always remember it your final test. wear your cloths, apologize and hit the street. u wud literally murder her with thots like : is it that he has a gurl friend and doesnt wano cheat on her? or is my kini smelly like that of that blogger? stretch marks on my laps? or is he impotent? cudnt B because i touched his hard Jrod..... is there something i did wrong? ...... if only she knew....

yea i know, it is not fair to do this to any lady, but sit back and ask yourself, is it fair to do this to a guy? Ladies do this to guys all the time that is why they have mastered the act of staying on top of their game, and only let in guys they really want into their web, and for you to master your act also, this you must learn to do, not with one, but as often as u can,,,,,u wud bcome a master in no time, Jrod wud learn its place and then cease to control you.

WICKED!!!!

Pure eeeeeeeEeeeeveeeeelll!!!

Thing is, now that i think back on it, i remember having played out similar scenarios with some chicks back when i was in school and man!! Did it work!!!

You some kinda psychologist?

YoungRichRuler:

I don't know so much about cars.

But I prefer Benz!
Meanwhile, is the car Toyota or Honda?

Dunno!


But the booty is ferrari

The most peaceful form of protest
Take that to the C.A.N and let the protest begin
Afterall, dead christians can't eat beef!

femolala001:
Who said this and to whom?? Our fathers were evil men. They left the world worse than they found it. We gonna leave the world better than we found it.

Daenerys Taegaryean (oops! I think i murdered the spellings ) to yara greyjoy and theon greyjoy too of course

femolala001:
Who said this and when?? My hounds are hungry i havent fed them in three days!!!

Simple, but i think it was five days not three


Where are you ramsaybolton ?

femolala001:
Hmmm... nice one.

Who said dis and when?? I cant bring your dead back to life but i can get get u justice

The myrish red priest thoros or is it lord berric dondarrion? He was adressing arya stark when she asked whether he could bring back a man without a head

psalmsjob:
Yeah that's what I meant you guys are neither here nor there, you only like to hear what you like to hear to smooth your ego and promote your ignorance.

The lies you told yourselves during the elections till you lost it, so keep at it, er like you that way

The operative word here is "agenda" numbskull! So if you know the agenda, you know the perspective from where the story comes from and who it benefits and the rest is easy peasy

psalmsjob:
Now wailers will all of a sudden rate Sahara reporters as credible but if the same news media release how Wike spoke to his boy Fayose on phone about how he rigged elections and caused mayhem they'll immediately become an APC news media outlet again.

The hypocrisy of wailers, PDP, IPOB no dey end na season film.

Sahara reporters are a factional APC media arm mumu! so yes, we pick and choose what to believe and that is possible because we know who they work for and their agenda

IVORY2009:
Do you want his boys to pay u a surprise visit

Which boys?

Ibori is back, ayiri's bromance with APshit depends on ibori's say so! Wherever ibori leads, ayiri follows