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SillyMods:
Loser, keep licking your wounds.
Buhari till 2023. If you no like, a lagoon should be close to yoo.

I will gladly go to the lagoon
























To drown you in it!

fiizznation:
Buhari is wicked because he stopped your role models from stealing right? Anyway cry from here to high heavens, the war on corruption is just beginning. You either support this government or you port out to wherever you wish to go.

What war on corruption?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Please do tell, do you have a copy of the 2017 budget draft? Have you seen the state house budget of 2017? Did you perchance see the budget dedicated to sewage? The daily cost allocated to sewage?
Read through that budget of corruption then come back and tell me about the rhetoric called war on corruption

War on corruption indeed

fiizznation:
And so because some families don't have food to eat today, the president should be called names right?Were majority of Nigerians not poor even before buhari became the president?

If you can make this comment and defend it then you're not a sincere Nigerian who gives a damn about his compatriots!
Yes i have food, you have food but millions of Nigerians don't have food and money and for the first time ever a nairalander came online to beg for food and support for himself and his two kids dropping his phone number and address and you brush it aside as irrelevant because it doesn't affect you and your family? how more sycophantic can you be?
Majority of Nigerians were poor before buhari became president but they were never so poor that they couldn't afford to eat at least one meal a day, so poor that they didn't have family and friends to turn to in times of need so what the hell are you saying? Do you even live in Nigeria? Have you been to Nigeria recently and seen how bleak the atmosphere is in a period that was usually very alive with activities and partying? What the hell are you smoking?

avalontony:
.. .. .. .. You know nothing Jon snow

Yours was the Best reply
........ You know nothing Nixipie! ygritte 2014

DaBullIT:
Fighting for himself, Fayose is not fighting for Yoruba interest

My guy!

We're on different sides of the political divide but if you really are yoruba then your appreciation of events is very superficial, there are things osibanjo can not lament about in public that adeboye as his spiritual father is privy to, if you need more pointers, do a casual read up of fani kayode's (yes him ) prophecies for 2017 buhari isn't who he sold himself to you as, but you know that already! Dontcha? so don't be too ashamed to admit you goofed

criminalmindz:
This is a sicilian message, it means... Its official buhari vs osibande fight has began. Round 1!

Padre!
I no get sicilian red for you but mange this crate of orijin for being an orijinal costranostra

No be everybody get this kain sense

Senator sanni has been the only northern hausa/fulani politician that has tried to be a detribalised politician/activist always speaking his mind and version of the truth irrespective of whose ox is gored! he has earned my respect and support for any higher national service because frankly speaking, based on history and antecedents, there's no other northern politician right now i can trust with my country's future.
Looking at him gives me hope that with good and quality education and exposure, the hausa/fulani masses of the north could become more Nigerian and less, less whatever they are right now

thinkative:
sorry, you are the one in denial here.

this is probably the end of my involvement in this intellectual masturbation.

you claim ur initial point was that schools in Nigeria were generally tribalistic. that's a lie from the pit of hades! You actually said south western schools are monoethnic.

you saw a post about a lady with good scores who wasn't admitted into OAU. instead of 'thinking' about what the possible causes could be. and ways to help out....

you went for tribalism...with virtually no proof. unfortunately, you scored an own goal. ur mouth has been left bloodied. dazed and faced with the fact that the lady is already a student and there may be a mixup somewhere, you stagger around and stumble on some 'concepts'...

to refresh ur memory, here is the comment that got my attention

Oh! My goodness! now i see the source of your annoyance Phi001 and baum1 help me out here please, i was concurrently interacting on two different threads without keeping track, this one and its precursor, in the precursor i actually said all Nigerian schools were tribalistic and i singled out Uniben and Unilag for highest praise and Unillorin for highest condemnation, i actually even said southeastern and northern schools were probably more tribalistic than southwestern schools so chill brother what i meant and what you understood are on parallel lanes, nobody's fault probably

thinkative:
ur initial point that irked me was that south western schools were tribalistic

now you have shifted the goal posts. I will no longer engage you in this dance of folly.

to set the record straight. you suggested that this particular girl did not gain admossion into OAU because she was from delta state and not from the south west.

now that its apparent that she is already a student of the school, you have 'changed mouth' and danced away from the crux of our argument.

the fact is you made a baseless, ill informed , biased and hopelessly unfounded statement. and it came back to bite you...

the lady is a student of OAU. and she is not Yoruba. deal with that....then we can talk about nepotism

My initial point if you read it through thoroughly was that Nigerian schools in general were tribalistic, some more so than others. That you argue with sentiment and self righteous conviction does not make you right, my goal post never shifted, i only gave you leeway to validate my point to the limit of your understanding vis-a-vis nepotism not being tribalism and i suffered your lack of conceptualisation of my points making me patiently explain to you with hypothetical scenarios! That you still don't get it is no fault of mine! I am only responsible for what i say and imply, you on the other hand are responsible for how you interpret it
If this were an academic debate you'll have huffed and puffed fruitlessly talking a lot and saying very little.
I leave you to your socially utopian detribalised south-western academic communities!
Wallow in your denial alone and leave me out of it, I'm done with you.

thinkative:
can you see ur tribalism and nepotism spew has fallen flat on its face in this case? you and others like you need to take matters based on their merits!

I knew there was a mistake somewhere... hope its resolved in her favour tho

How can you logically arrive at the conclusion you just made ***phew*** smh

MODIFIED

While to you it might seem any admission is an admission, to me and others of like mind amongst which i believe the young lady falls in, only the best is good enough, if not, this topic wouldn't have been up for conversation in the first place and if you don't understand what i just typed, imagine being paid a groat for doing a job worth a pound.

veekid:
I still don't understand how this old man take become Nigeria's president

Wait lemme ask ifa

taryur:
mr,schools dont ask for copies of whatever documents including results until after u have been offered admission. after u av been offered admission,the individual then goes to the said school with original copies of results for verification. stop trying all you can to paint the school ugly, pls. If u make the cut off mark,OAU will always give u an admission regardless of where one is from. many people can attest to that.

And they told applicants to scan and upload their results and documents as part of the requirements for filling the e-application forms on the e-portal for what? Administrative undersight or is it oversight?

Come up with another argument

http://www.oauife.edu.ng/2016/07/2016-admission-screening-exercise/

thinkative:
but definitely not tribalism. u were bang out of order there.

No i wasn't, at what point does tribalism become nepotism and vice-versa?
The distinction between the two is very blurry and gray if there's any distinction whatsoever!
For example, you're in charge of admissions and you're from lagos, two students, one from cross rivers and one from a place near your ancestral home in lag who happens to be your second cousin fall on the lower spectrum of the confidence interval for a given course and you have to pick one of them to complete your list, the cross rivers applicant edges the lagos applicant by 0.005% points which is statistically insignificant but that difference exists, you pick the lagos student knowing he's a vague relation of yours but rationalise it as it being his luck, afterall, 0.005% is insignificant forgetting that the other student and people from his area won't see it as such and they allege favouritism which let's be honest it is, so on your scale of morality, nepotism is less worse than tribalism but how are you going to reconcile it to your conscience? That it is not tribalism? Good luck convincing yourself

Phi001:
Check the reply of the person that mentioned her.

He checked again the next day...besides, she should have complained/raised alarm or something.


I almost lost my admission to UNIPORT because UNIPORT put me in the wrong department and I didn't complain...

So according to you, the onus to correct a technical error from the schools website admin rests solely on the student especially after she has filled and submitted her e-form constrained by limitations created by the schools e-portal? are you for real? At what point does the school take responsibility then?

sbashir10:
she actually submitted seven courses
here's the prove

And this proof says it is the fault of the schools e-portal admin/designers who made one of her subjects unavailable on the day she filled and submitted her form as is corroborated by the other twitter user with whom she's having the conversation so still the schools fault!

But then again the school knows that and they also demanded for scanned copies of results for verification purposes and the computer science she was unable to compile into the form she filled online was very ambiguous in it so if they must calculate her o'levels over 8 subjects, what is their excuse this time? except to give excuses and apportion blame to the student which will fly on superficial examinations but fail when critically assessed

Phi001:
I went out of my way to find out about OAU's admission process and there's this new thing universities call screening, really...follow the link and see who's right or wrong...
http://www.oauife.edu.ng/2016/07/2016-admission-screening-exercise/

Check the twitter conversation in the post following yours, one of the courses she was supposed to fill wasn't available on the e-portal site the day she filled and submitted her form forcing her to fill seven subjects only so that can hardly be her fault that is, if her account of events are accurate

[quote author=sbashir10 post=52189604][/quote]In which case her results shouldn't be computed over 8 subjects, it should be the valid five for her course

Phi001:
I went out of my way to find out about OAU's admission process and there's this new thing universities call screening, really...follow the link and see who's right or wrong...
http://www.oauife.edu.ng/2016/07/2016-admission-screening-exercise/

Candidates are required to
1. Update jamb data
2. Upload results
3. Upload scanned copies of credentials

I would say it goes further to buttress my point as to avoid any semantic disambiguity i wouldn't claim to know what upload results (No. 2) means in this case whether filling an e-form or uploading a scanned copy
Also No 3. Which is what will be used to validate No. 2 if it is filling of forms would also place the omission at the schools doorstep for that is the actual valid legal tender

thinkative:
learnt on this thread that she is already a student of the university. so ur point that she was not offered admission based on tribalism is null and void.

I still insist that there was a mistake somewhere. but its not due to tribalism. maybe nepotism...but not tribalism!

Okay!

One of the -ism's then

Phi001:
Very nice point until you realise that jamb is written before waec and as such waec results can't possibly be included in a jamb form.

There's another thread on the actual computation of her scores right now and on it ife students and others who went through the admissions process say that o'level results are scanned and uploaded online, not filled in a form and submitted, i hope this settles this

thinkative:
Gbam! very good observation. the result she uploaded for admission has just 7 subjects.

I don't understand why people have turned admission officers and are computing 8 subjects for her.

so much sentiments and emotions. very little logic

Here we are again

Learnt on this thread that results are scanned and uploaded online so the point of her making an omission in filling her subjects is now null and void

Posman:
just because there is a difference in their abilities doesn't make it any less of a rip off, just like some Android phones copying the look of iPhone isn't less of a ripoff because of their OS and functionality.
look, appearance also counts for rip off and ofcos u don't expect Thanos to look identical to darkseid. like I said it's a well known fact in the comic world, except you are trolling I dnt see the need for you to convince yourself it isn't.
if you ll based ur argument abilities, that means Namor isn't Aquaman ripoff? or Quicksilver isn't of flash or Deadpool isn't of Deathstroke or Ant-Man of atom?
the list is endless
difference in ability isn't enough reason, no company wants to b sued hence the modifications in appearance and ability.
and it's funny how darkseid is Justice league villian likewise thanos is Avengers' right even for the upcoming movie adaptations.

1. I'm not a troll
2. I argue based on the characters i'm familiar with as i can't and won't claim to know them all
3. Given what i mentioned as my second point, i am familiar with grundy and hulk, darkseid and thanos
4. From point no three, the little i know makes me disagree about hulk being a ripoff of grundy in any fashion be it origins, character, powers, weakness e.t.c and you haven't contradicted that assertion. Also, apart from the purpose they serve as the ultimate villain, there's nothing similar about thanos and darkseid, not even their motivations so saying everybody knows or everybody says doesn't hold much water with me.
5. You can accuse me of being in denial if you see me write that aquaman isn't a namor ripoff, or antman of atom, or quicksilver of flash or deadpool of deathstroke! Those i didn't contest, neither did i contest characters i'm not too familiar with.
6. I only contested what i know and can defend, there have been ripoffs both ways but only add real ripoffs not blatant lies in a bid to make a sides list long and stoke further argument.

That is my exception

Phi001:
Or that the additional course was registered but not written.

Besides, she wrote 9 subjects. Why she submitted 7 is beyond me...and I'm sure she submitted 7 because if she submitted all 9 and only 7 were included in her transcript, she would've complained.

It's not a calculation of what she made in her waec but what she submitted.

Perhaps, you've not seen her transcript. What you submit is what is calculated for you.

The fact that she's not new yo the system doesn't mean she couldn't have made a mistake. You're firmly certain that the provost/OAU is to blame...but analyse again.

Admission process is now different.

If she submitted more than seven but only seven were accredited to her, she would've have complained.

Her transcipt's?

I think universities now have more authority to exercise in admission process. All thanks to this ranking of a thing.
So if 8 subjects are required and only 7 are submitted, she has herself to blame.

There was this one time when I was in SSS2, Chemistory exam I think.
4 theory questions, 25 marks each, 40 objective questions. I forgot to answer one theory question and I lost 12.5% for that singular mistake. In fact, I argued with my teacher until he showed me my mistake.

While filling a jamb form you fill in all your passed courses including the ones relevant to your course of study (check and confirm it) and the subjects the school chooses to use in its compilations in addition to the compulsory five are at the schools discretion, what this means is that in absence of a post UTME form filled with deficit of one subject by the student seeing as there is no longer a post UTME, the school uses what the student filled in their jamb forms and as such the error of omission can not be from the student.
What we're discussing is a probability theory, and this theory in the absence of proof to back either our suspicions skews higher to the omission coming from the school.

baum1:
Even if she submitted only 7 subjects but submitted more than the required 5 o'level subjects as required by JAMB, she would have to make an F in the 8th subject for it to be used to compute her overall O'level GPA. I have told that to OGA pHi001 and even used example of real university courses.

Exactly!
In the absence of an F to account for a missing result and given the fact that she's already a student there and as such not new to the system, that leaves the most likely source of the omission to be computing error on the part of the school admissions board, I would love to be proven wrong though

Phi001:
At bolded 1: That's a lot of confidence in somebody you don't know. We're all prone to mistakes.

At bolded 2: it was obviously a typo error. I bet if she made an F in Physics, you'd have been okay with calculating it just once.

She's already a student in the system and was just bidding her time to get her preferred course

That F would've disqualified her from applying and she knows that too, like i said, she's already a student in ife and as such no stranger to the admission process and requirements

thinkative:
not direct entry from polytechnics oo. medicine is too sensitive a course for dat..

if I may recall, students from other departments who have met a specified threshold regarding their CGPA are allowed to cross over to medicine. that's the direct entry the provost was referring to

Not DE from polys except HND holders of microbiology and biochemistry of course but students with first degrees in medical and science related courses

Those are called transfer students not DE and they transfer into 200l i believe. 100l is for o'level freshers and dipLoma students of that school who operate pre-admission diploma courses

Phi001:
Let's use a practical example here...


In a semester, if you aim for a 5.0 GPA and get As in 7 courses instead of 8, will the last course be rendered invalid to ensure you attain that perfect GPA?

No, but her submitting nly seven subjects has not been proven

Phi001:
Her scores were properly computed.
At least, the scores from the grades she submitted.

And whose word do we take for it that she submitted only seven?

thinkative:
of course I will disagree. we are talking about the university of ife which once had prof Cyril Onwumechili as vice chancellor. how many uni's in other parts of the country have had VC's from ethnic groups that aren't theirs?

of the students that were tragically killed in the cultists attack that changed ife forever, eviano ekelemo, efe ekede and Godfrey ekpede were not Yoruba. this guys lost their lives for ife to be free of cultists, yet you seem to suggest they were never students of ife. or aren't u saying the school doesnt admit non-yorubas?

if you're going to accuse an institution of tribalism....it shouldn't be ife. or any school in the south west for that matter. I met lots of Igbos and hausas and even a few ghanians in ife as recently as 2013. and they still remain my friends till today.

I have been around my friend though i don't expect you to take my word for this, the examples you gave do not invalidate my statistics. Yes i said ife was an institution affected by tribalism but i also said it was less so compared to majority of the schools around Nigeria and i used uniben as a gold standard of some sort not because it is totally detribalised or because i studied there but because in comparism to other schools i've been to, uniben and unilag are the most diverse ethnically, unilag for obvious reasons, uniben for the fact that their merit list remains untainted by any other consideration to the best of my knowledge (I can still be proven wrong of course). In my time i applied to ife and uniben in different years and gained admission into different courses in both, i turned down a couple of admissions in my time because maybe i was a bit conceited and arrogant believing i was very brilliant and admissions came to me easier than other people or because i was kind of pampered and sheltered with my parents more invested in me going to school than i was but point is, during the admissions search i got around and though uniben was never my choice, i was basically bribed/coerced to take up that admission and i look back at my wasted years with regrets i also got to learn about many back doors to gaining admission into Nigerian universities and i'm saying point blank that there's tribalism in ife's admission, at least there was back then

Phi001:
They were asked to provide their best 8 subjects and she submitted only 7

According to who?

I don't think she could have made that type of mistake! I could be wrong though but for her to raise an alarm on social media will point that she feels cheated and that is not the case!

But why did the provost type physics twice without calculating it twice?

Many questions need answers

Phi001:
Some universities have a fixed number of students that are admitted for a course yearly.

And O.A.U's for med n surg is 100 and our argument is if her scores had been properly computed she would have beaten the cut of mark by a wide margin and made it on merit alone so there is either foul play, a computing error and/or false declaration of facts (results) by the candidate somewhere

Phi001:
They were asked to provide their best 8 subjects and she submitted only 7

And out of 10 subjects with 4 A1's, 3 B2's and 3 C4's her best 7 not 8 leave her short of what's required seriously?