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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:17pm On Jan 07, 2023*

This is why you need understanding of the scriptures!
You can be fooled as much as you like,
{John 4;7-27} Jesus said: Sir, I can see that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain. But you Jews say that Jerusalem is the place where people must worship.” Jesus said, “Believe me, woman. The time is coming when you will not have to be in Jerusalem or on this mountain to worship the Father. You Samaritans worship what you don’t understand. We Jews understand what we worship. Salvation comes from the Jews. The time is coming when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth.
So if you feel there is only one place where you can worship, then you are wrong: We can worship God anywhere we stand: I can talk with God any time of the day-I don't have to go up on the mountain nor go to Church or Watchtower etc to worship, I fellowship more times then just the first day of the week or Saturday Sabbath. Don't you realize we are in fellowship now, writing about the Lord/

MaxInDHouse:
This is why people needs understanding of the scriptures!

When God first established pure worship which involves a multitude of people He told His worshipers to make a TABERNACLE {Exodus 26:1} this is where all Israelites gather to worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Later David the great grandson of Judah decided to build a Temple in the name of JEHOVAH {Ezra 3:10} after Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews were taken to Babylon they returned to rebuild Solomon's temple and this was where Jesus Christ worshiped his God throughout his life! Mark 12:35

After Jesus' death resurrection and ascension to heaven his disciples still worshiped in the Temple teaching people about the coming and the ministry of Christ Jesus! Act 3:1

So what led them to start worshiping at home?

Let me allow you say what you were taught by your pastors!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:59pm On Jan 07, 2023

So you are telling me, you got the name Watchtower out of the bible, did you dig a pit for the wine press, is the Watchtower full of drank men.
There are plenty of names, Churches use that 'are taken out of the scriptures, seriously, and you believe by taking a name out of the bible, makes you superior the top dog above all other Churches. God had chosen you..
O please really:

Janosky:
You are very deluded.
The word "Watchtower" is in your own Bible, Mark 12:1 & Isaiah 21:5,8.
More so, "Watchtower" is a component name used by Jehovah's servants for legal purposes,to fulfill the law of Ceasar.

Indeed, your own 3 deities is not the God Almighty of Jesus Christ,Acts 3:13.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:44pm On Jan 07, 2023

You should ask the Lord to save you, become a real christian and learn to understand the scriptures through Christ, Janosky seriously right now you are like a broken record, everything you write, is like you are warring against yourself and against the scriptures!
You need to ask the Lord into your life, allowing Him to open up His Word for you, He will give you a clear view, you will begin to see the Word of God more clearly-Naturally and Spirituality.
It's like stepping into a new world, a world full of Godly wisdom and knowledge, you have never experienced before.
Right now you are trying to figure God's Word out in your fleshly mind-nothing will make sense to you, this is why you can't find the scriptures that will back up your own theories.

Janosky:
Your 3 in one alias Trinity is a man made delusion.

John 20:17 ,is in your own Bible for a reason.
Jesus Christ and his sheep are not pagans who worship 3 deities.
Revelation 3:12,21 Jesus Christ does NOT recognize your 3 in one delusion in his Father's kingdom.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:24pm On Jan 07, 2023

The name Jesus is written in every English speaking bible, if I was reading a bible in another language Jesus Name will be in another language, but the bottom line is, Jesus Name will always be the same.
Jehovah name is only written in a few verses in the King James bible-Many bibles don't have Jehovah name, because the printers that print the bibles believe Jehovah 'has the wrong spelling.
But since it was the Catholic Church that came up with a name Jehovah over 700 years ago, then obviously it's a name that had been added to the scriptures-where in fact God say's don't add nor remove, so your god you bow down to is just over 700 years old.

Janosky:
But you use the name "Jesus" to recognise the only begotten Son of God even when you know that "Jesus" is NOT his real name.
Brocab is a Hypocrite glued to IBERIBEISM.

Brocab the HYPOCRITE had to LIE to feel good about himself & console himself.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:49am On Jan 07, 2023

We actually follow what the disciples did, they had their Church meetings at home, you can keep your Watchtower organisation, 'pay your tithes, do what ever, it means nothing to me, we in the other hand are setting a good example, Mediating on the Word of God, and doing it..

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:22am On Jan 07, 2023

I have written this down many times; I belong to the Church at home: are you now satisfied?
And our Church is spread across every nation:
Born again believers from all walks of life; are seeking the Kingdom of God-mediating on His Word Day and Night-under the supervision of the Lords new Covenant, obeying the Commandments and His laws, doing what is written in the scriptures.
Christians giving to the widows the fatherless and the strangers, clothing the poor and needy, feeding the hungry.
Christians praying for each other, praying for people across the globe: Christians working together: Just as Christ always working with His Father.
{Joshua 1:8} Keep this Book of the Law always on your lips; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful.
We are prosperous and successful just like the Lord promise we will be,

MaxInDHouse:
So if there is contradictions then results should settle the matter {Matthew 7:16-18} name your own church and the WORKS this religion has helped imperfect humans like you and i to do in this endtime.
Don't come up with what can be found in all gathering of imperfect humans like fornication, adultery or any other act as a way to dodge the question because we all know that all these are the traits of imperfection in humans and there's no gathering of imperfect humans where such will not be found.
Talk about what the first century Christians were noticed to be doing in Antioch before they were called CHRISTIANS.
If you try to dodge this then forget about it you're just a madman!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 5:21am On Jan 07, 2023

How many times do I have to write the name of my church down.
And I agree with you about many churches, kingdom halls etc.. they do draw people further away from God.
Their contradictions and divisions they lie against the Word of God. I do agree with you.

MaxInDHouse:
What is the name of your church?
Logically we all know that it's contradictions that caused the division in Christendom churches!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 5:15am On Jan 07, 2023*

You preach another Jesus-your god is demonic, you come under a man made organisation called the Watchtower, your doctrine is not from the bible: you have very little knowledge concerning the bible, So who are you? you are not even recognized in the Kingdom of God: you are a goat separated from the sheep:
You refuse the name trinity because it's not written in the bible-but the meaning of trinity is 3 in one.
Yet you use Jehovah and this name is not written in most bibles: but God the Father is written in all bibles, So it must mean the name Jehovah is not biblical: it's just a name used to recognize God.
Interestingly, A Roman Catholic Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican order, first rendered the divine name as “Jehova.” This form appeared in his book Pugeo Fidei, published in 1270 C.E.—over 700 years ago.
In time, as reform movements developed both inside and outside the Catholic Church, the Bible was made available to the people in general, and the name “Jehovah” became more widely known. In 1611 C.E. the King James or Authorized Version of the Bible was published. It uses the name Jehovah four times.{Ex. 6:3; Ps. 83:18; Isa. 12:2; 26:4}
So really the name Jehovah was given by a Roman Catholic Spanish Monk: so obviously it's not biblical, it's over 700 years old..
Janosky believes in a god the Catholic's had began, why not bow down to the statue of Mary, while you are at it, these are unknown gods..
God said: we can't add or remove, the Catholic Church had added the name Jehovah to the scriptures.

Janosky:
This is the nadir of your IBERIBEISM.
Jehovah knows his servants bearing His name, John 5:43 ,Acts 15:14 , John 9:4 & 2 Chronicles 7:14.
You either get it or you don't.
It's not by mouthing "Jesus Christ" upandan.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:41pm On Jan 06, 2023

Simple: it's all written in the bible: you should read a bible some time: then maybe you will know, all your doctrines from the Watchtower are written by false prophets.
None of it's true-you aren't Christian nor are you the chosen-but liars to the nations: deceiving innocent people through lies of destruction:
You are like sheep running to your slaughter: you will die in your sins:

Janosky:
Why is Brocab so gullible feeding fat from delusion & IBERIBEISM?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:31pm On Jan 06, 2023

Max; quote who disagree's

MaxInDHouse:
I don't understand how he could convince me when his cohorts disagree with him!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:25pm On Jan 06, 2023

To prove you are Christian-one must be Born Again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God:
You are preaching a doctrine that doesn't even exist: it's dead. God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Your organisation can't save you: you have been led a stray: not knowing God will be your down fall, you will die in your sins.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy go and convince your cohorts because to me you're beginning to sound like a lunatic to me!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 6:46pm On Jan 06, 2023*

Max everybody is obviously here for a good reason-they are already reading, then at least allow them to just read through the pages from each of us.
Stop getting yourself all worked up over nothing: forgive and walk on, it's that simple.
After reading what Courz wrote, I now have a clearer view-how it must be difficult for you, to not be allowed to question any elder about any bible verse that concerns your faith in the Watchtower.
Our faith is much different to yours-we don't need to go to our elders, Pastors whatever, everything concerning our faith, when we want answers we open up our bibles, it is God's Word isn't it.
We don't need to ask for assistance, it's already written down-all the Lord expects us to do is mediate on His Word Day and Night.
Max do yourself a favor pick up a bible, and start reading it, you may notice the large differences between both teachings.
Open that door Max: this is a life time freedom-you won't have to answer to anybody who calls themselves elders, why? because you will already have the answers from God Himself through His Word.
{1 Timothy 5:17} Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.
These are the elders who are preaching and teaching the Word of God. consider them worthy to be a brother in Christ..
But if you begin reading the bible, the Lord will give you enough wisdom to know between the sheep and the wolves 'just by listening to their preaching and teachings:
You don't have to ask anybody about the scriptures, you will have it already written down, at reach, every time you choose to open up your new bible.
Don't get yourself all worked up over it-showing your anger doesn't help you-pick up the bible and Learn about Born Again-and why Jesus had separated them from the rest of the world.

MaxInDHouse:
That's SMARTNESS of a disciple! Luke 12:11-12

If you're not a LIAR now is the time to prove that you're not Courz by asking for an interview regarding the historicity of Jesus, after all over 300 posts and pictures has been dropped on your thread by this moniker so he supposed to be your friend by now, why is it so difficult for you to interview him if you're not the same person?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:24am On Jan 06, 2023*

Yeah that happens a lot-the Governing body: these people have made their Covenant with men, instead of God: so what comes out of the Watchtower, that doesn't line up with the Word of God : the people follow-like sheep going to their slaughter.
Max told me a story-how Max managed to witness to a poor boy standing with his pastor father, now Max was quite proud praising himself, given himself his own glory, on top of all that Max managed to put down the Pastor father and giving thumbs up for the boy.
Now I am witnessing to Max-and look at the treatment I am receiving, just like the boy's father.
Where's that love the JW's give, is there any patience left, I am not feeling the joy from Max, Don't we just love it.
Thanks for your information bro, very well said:

Courz:
Unfortunately in JW, they are not taught to test what they are taught to see if what they are taught is True. They are taught to listen to Watchtower, accept and obey anything they are told whether what they are taught makes sense or not from a Human standpoint. Watchtower requires Blind obedience. JWs are told all the time that Jesus and Jehovah trust the Governing body. Therefore, they should trust the Governing body too. You can see that they are told something completely opposite from what the Bible says.

As a typical Cult, Watchtower never tolerates Questioning. It is forbidden to question their leaders or correct them. But the Bible says you must question. Questioning is part of the the testing process the Bible demands. But in JW, once you start to question the leadership or try to correct a wrong doctrine or opinion, you will be marked. The Elders will be ordered from above to watch you like CIA Agents. You will be branded an Apostate. If you saw something from the Bible that contradicts the doctrines of Watchtower and you went ahead to write a letter to the Headquarters of Watchtower in order to correct them, you will be disfellowshipped. How do I know? It has happened to a JW, Carl Olof Jonsson (I have forgotten his position he held in Watchtower, someone who knows should remind me) Who was trying to correct the doctrine of when Jerusalem was destroyed. He even wrote a book titled Gentile Times Reconsidered explaining the correct date by using the Bible and Archaeological evidence together. Every archaeological evidence points to 586/587 bce. Archaeological evidence that was preserved since the time of King Nebuchadnezzar. A former Governing body member actually did his research, going to libraries and examined archaeological evidence but found no supporting evidence for 607 bce but instead found 586/587 bce. Ordinary Google also confirms the archaeological evidence. Only Watchtower teaches that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce. Just because someone did thorough research and saw the fraud in the doctrine and wanted to correct them, they decided to get rid of him. Why? Because it is forbidden to correct them and because the correction will expose the fact that Jesus never selected them in 1919. It will also expose the fact that 1914 is wrong and made up and that their authority over them is a fraud. Watchtower doesn't want JWs to know about this. They will see the fraud. Their imaginary calculations from 607 bce leads to 1914 which was supposed to be the time the world would end but the world didn't end on that date, they eventually changed it to when Jesus came. And from 1914, they got the date 1919 which is supposed to be the date Jesus selected them as the One True religion. Once a JW knows all of this, they will leave the Cult. Many found out about this Disfellowshipping story, found out about 607 bce and eventually left the Cult.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:07am On Jan 06, 2023

Maxie, I know it is up setting you, but you need to face the facts, Not I that wrote the scriptures, Christ did, He say's: you must be Born Again before you can enter into the King of God..
The bottom line is, if you aren't Born Again you are not one of God's children.
If you have friends in Kingdom Hall who are Born Again, then why aren't you looking at this as a good example for you to follow.
Courz just gave me a good run down about the Watchtower, since Courz was also an X JW, so of course Courz would know the in's and out's about the Watchtower,
Listen no one is against you Max, you told me a story how you witnessed to a poor boy, now I am witnessing to you, and you are casting stones at me.
I will defend Christ-just like you on the street defending Jehovah. call me what you like: it doesn't bother me, your abusive words means nothing to me..
After you had explained to the poor boy-you said: the poor boy's father looked down at him, my Father in Heaven is looking down on us also..
{Proverbs 15:3} The eyes of the LORD are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.
Remember we can't hide from God, He see's everything we do.

MaxInDHouse:
This is what you've always wanted but you and i can never ever be on the same page!

Jesus is a person and i am also a person so he can't be me and i can't be him but either of us can subject to the other's line of thought that's what makes me like him.
YES! The HOLY SPIRIT helps us to speak the truth no matter how bitter it will sound in the hearing of a persuasive liar. A lunatic is one who keeps persuading others over what is not possible. You can't convince your neighbor in the next room to come and live peacefully with you when those living with you in the same apartment are at loggerheads with you, that's a sign of insanity.
I have BORN AGAIN brothers in my own church so i know what it means to be BORN AGAIN but since he feels everyone in his own church must be born again then let him prove it by agreeing with you who is one of his friends after all charity they say begins at home!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 3:04am On Jan 06, 2023*

All I can say: the Lord separated His sheep for the flock of wolves, and made a point to the Pharisee one must be Born Again before He can enter into the Kingdom of God.
Many religions are trying to climb up another way-but what they refuse to acknowledge Jesus is the only door to God. There's no window there's no other door 'that they will enter in.
It's simple to reach out to the Lord; this is a free gift for those that want it.
Cult's always believe they are right with answers, but deep within the dead do not know their past nor their future.
People are dying everyday: those who sat in churches-and still didn't know the Lord:
Don't people in the Watchtower understand, if I was told I would be caste out, if I saved my child by given them blood that would give them life, I would prefer to be caste out, don't they understand God is not the God of the dead: but of the living. {Luke 20;38, Luke 12:27}
I don't see any point in witnessing to anybody about God, if I wasn't Born Again, it's clear what the Lord say's: {John 3:3} these are chosen people Christ was given by God, Jesus made a point to separate His people, away from the rest of the world.
There's no other way-to enter into His Kingdom.
The Lord say's: test everything, when I hear preachers preach gospel, I test it, if it's not lining up with the Word, I won't waste my time with them, this is what the JW's should be doing: testing the elders, to see if they are preaching the Word of God. If what they preach doesn't line up-run, and find somewhere else where they will hear to truth.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 2:09am On Jan 06, 2023

Long story bro, well you would know the in's and out's about Watchtower, no wonder the JW's hate you with a passion, you were one of them an enemy to the world, now you are an enemy to them.
Well I suppose this is what we are here for, preaching the message: I was showing a little kindness to Max; showing young Max we stand for our belief's in Christ.
You are right they are confused about the scriptures, they use them without having any idea what they have written down, just like {John 17:22} this is used as their argument that they are one, then I ask myself: ONE IN WHAT? they obviously don't believe Christ and the Father are One, so how is it, they claim they are one.
I have heard it myself from elders, Yes I agree the chosen elders do claim that heresy, the 144000 are the only ones allowed to be with the lord, while the rest of the flock are waiting for the New Earth.
Many are led by it, millions are deceived by it, I suppose it's just like any other cult's out there, they have got the gift of the gap-that attracts people 'hook and line. it's never about the people, it's always about the money that builds their empires..
Being on this forum is quiet easy for me to wipe my feet and walk away, as the Lord say's:
This is what I like about the Word, we all have choices, and it's a free gift, I don't have to buy my way into heaven: all the Lord expects us to do: is mediate on His Word day and night, seeking His Righteousness.
Well I am sure: with the story you have written about yourself, should wake up the dead, I don't think the JW's dare argue with you, after this.

Courz:
Nice Preaching you are doing for Mad MaxInDHouse. Unfortunately, your Preaching is in vain. You can see Mad MaxInDHouse knows nothing about being born again. He even mocks the doctrine. A doctrine that comes from Jesus. Did you know that when I was in this Cult, I never quite understood what being Born Again means. The explanation from Watchtower also didn't make sense to me. It was when I left and decided to read the Bible alone, I then understood the whole Born again process well. It was so straightforward to me.

I keep saying it that JWs are very backward in the knowledge of the Bible. There is a danger in blindly following Men, Freemasons for that matter, because you will be led astray. They have admitted that they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. That's a Red flag because you will be taught fantasies and delusions.

Let me share a discussion I had with a JW in another forum. You remember the Bible verse where Jesus gave an expo on how he will judge the world. He said he will separate his sheep from the Goats. His Sheep on his right, the goats on his left. Jesus said he will tell his Sheep to come and inherit the Kingdom that has been prepared for them since the world began which means They will be in Heaven. How do we know? Apostle Paul said Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. Physical bodies will be turned to spirit form. Very clear. Therefore, all of Jesus sheep are going to Heaven. But in JW Land, this is a contradiction because They are taught that only the Anointed will inherit the Kingdom and will go to heaven. So, the rest of JWs who are not anointed have been excluded without JWs knowing it. Now based on this, I asked this JW, when that time comes for Jesus to separate his Sheep from the Goats, where will he be since he is not anointed? Is he going to be with the Goats? He kept giving long stories and evading the question. It was a pitiful sight to behold because JWs are not aware that their teachings have excluded them from the road to life that Jesus has given freely. Watchtower came along and blocked that road and they are not seeing it. The good thing about the words of Jesus in this verse is he explicitly mentioned two destinations for the world when he will come to judge: His sheep are inheriting the Kingdom which is Heaven while the Goats will be destroyed. He never mentioned Paradise Earth as Watchtower teaches. So, where do the majority of JWs fit in? Are they Sheep or Goats? Watchtower indirectly says JWs are Goats according to their doctrine.

This is why your explanation of being Born Again cannot be understood by Mad MaxInDHouse. Jesus was very clear that in order for anyone to see the Kingdom, he or she MUST be born again. JWs who are not anointed according to Watchtower have been excluded because they are NOT Born Again and therefore will not see the Kingdom as Jesus said. They don't even know the implications of this. Too bad. That's what you get for following Freemasons.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 8:34pm On Jan 05, 2023

Max you got to read the scriptures yourself, I never wrote one must be born again, the Lord wrote it down, He said; you must be Born again before you can enter into the Kingdom of God.
I realize you don't understand the scriptures, I am trying to help you max: this is your chance to be saved-with the little 1% knowledge you have now, picture this, coming to Christ your knowledge will increase 10 times 10, the Lords wisdom will grow in you, you won't be disappointed:
Having the Lord by your side; you will be learning bible verses you didn't know existed, the Word will open up to you, that's the promise the Lord had given to all those who chooses to believe.

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you're a real lunatic because if you can't agree with your cohorts over this your stuff i don't know how you're going to convince any sane human to accept your delusional BORN AGAIN bruhaha!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 7:55pm On Jan 05, 2023

Think about it, you have your chance becoming a true Born again Christian, for the first time in your life you will begin to know the Lord: the scriptures will open doors for you, your understanding in the Word will increase, remember this is coming directly from God Himself, the Spirit of God-the Holy Spirit will teach you all things-if you ask for wisdom, knowledge the Lord will supply you with as much as you desire.
This is the greatest opportunity freely given, all we got to do is reach out to Christ, seek His kingdom and His righteousness and all things shall be added to us.
So the next time you talk with anybody, you would know you are free to do so-no rules no regulations from any organisation, freely you will be doing it 'for the Lord..

MaxInDHouse:
Go and agree with your cohorts before coming to PREACH your BORN AGAIN stuff!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 7:26pm On Jan 05, 2023

I was just thinking about your story about the poor boy-you would have cornered him hook and line, thank the Lord his father was there to stop that happening.
I just love the way the lord work's, the Lord has future plans for that young boy, he maybe a good Preacher one day.
I already know the Word of God 'don't make any sense to you Max, I am trying to help you:
Max before it's to late, reach out upon the Lord: give yourself to Him, there's no other Name above the Christ who can save you.
You believe through the Watchtower that the chosen 144000 will be in heaven with Jehovah while the rest of the flock wait for the New Earth.
You coming to Jesus: everybody who obey's God's Commandments go's to be with the Lord: Jesus chooses us to be with Him, becoming a Born Again believer God helps you to understand scriptures more clearly, baptized with the Holy Spirit-allows you to learn His truth, this is the greatest opportunity every man women Child can experience how powerful and how Spiritual the Word of God is.
Born again doesn't mean discrimination: all colors are treated equally, black white are all the same to the Lord-you can be either Greek or Jew, slave or free, all welcome.
No one chooses for you who's going to heaven: that's up to you, that's your choice, how you want to walk with the Lord.
Think about it, the next time you talk with any poor boy, you would know you are doing for the right reasons for the Lord..

MaxInDHouse:
Go and agree with your cohorts first before preaching your useless BORN AGAIN stuff here because it makes no practical sense!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 8:57am On Jan 05, 2023*

Wrong again, I am not expecting the JW's to agree with me at all, it's your choice to agree with the Word of God: I realize you are upset because the Word of God say's clearly you must be Born Again before you can enter into the Kingdom of God.
And I realize you like using {John 17:22} but even this verse doesn't line up with your doctrine, you maybe one in your organisation, but you can't be one in Christ, when in fact you don't believe Christ is One with God.
I know you don't take scripture to heart, but I would like to share these verses with you, Just in case the Watchtower haven't taught you the truth. .
{Philippians 2:5-7} Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation taken the form of a servant, and coming in the likeness of men.
Since you believe you have all the answers: ask yourself 'who is Jesus, where did He come from, before He came in the Likeness of men.
{John 1;1} states this argument.
I don't hate you Max: I am only here sharing the gospel: I don't know if you know this: we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this age" against spiritual host of wickedness in the heavenly places.
So the spiritual activity going on in your life Max, it's helping you to believe a lie, then rather knowing the truth: this is demonic!
But it aren't worth getting yourself all worked up over the fact one must be Born again: I pray for you Max: Maybe one day God will call you to His Son Jesus, so you will see His Light and be saved.

MaxInDHouse:
Janosky and Maximus are one {John 17:22} we have the same line of thought, it's you who doesn't agree with your cohorts yet claiming BORN AGAIN expecting JWs to agree with you. That's why i told you to go and fortify your so called faith with your brethren first before calling upon JWs.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:49pm On Jan 04, 2023*

I would of have believed this nice story if there's any truth in it,, but you don't even believe it yourself-you don't believe bible scriptures about Jesus; you boost about the Love you have for your fellow man, now you a mocking the so called pastor, and then you begin praising yourself, how wonderful your work has been accomplished "over the poor boy..
Maybe the father did explained it to him, but usually what happens with children they never listen to their parents anyway, who knows?
{John 3:16-18} Jesus was sent to save the world Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned.
What was God's purpose for sending Jesus? By sending his son Jesus to die for our sins, God is working to restore the radiance of his own glory shining in and through us.
{John 5:44} How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?
Max I wouldn't praising yourself to be recognized by Men "Not now, not ever.

MaxInDHouse:
They eagerly quote the Bible out of envy just to show that they can quote too but then they don't even know the import of what they quote.

The other day i told a so called pastors that Jesus was sent so that mankind can learn from him to please God and gain approval to live forever. So i quoted John 3:16 it was his little son who told him "daddy now i understand that verse better" he looked down on the poor boy!

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:19pm On Jan 04, 2023*

Janosky:

God is a Spirit. A spirit is one being.
Jesus Christ is another spirit, therefore a distinct being, different from his Father.
1 Corinthians 11:3, a man & wife are not 1 being, neither Jesus & his Father.
Brocab you are a polytheist worshipping your 3 beings.
Oga, stop deceiving yourself

This was written by a fool: who believes Jesus had a separate Spirit from His Father when in fact God is Spirit-this fool believes Jesus could work miracles and walk with God without having the Holy Spirit in Him and working through Him. Janosky believes Jesus can do all things in the flesh on His own accord.
Do you also believe this heresy? The Spirit in Jesus is separated from His Father? Of course you do..

MaxInDHouse:
They eagerly quote the Bible out of envy just to show that they can quote too but then they don't even know the import of what they quote.

The other day i told a so called pastors that Jesus was sent so that mankind can learn from him to please God and gain approval to live forever. So i quoted John 3:16 it was his little son who told him "daddy now i understand that verse better" he looked down on the poor boy!

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:45pm On Jan 04, 2023*

{Luke 3:16} John answered and said to them all, “As for me, I baptize you with water; but One is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to untie the thong of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
{Luke 11:13} If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?”
So now we have the Father and the Son given their Spirit {One Holy Spirit} to the believer's. it's no good arguing against the scriptures janosky you are acting us a fool trying.

SubPlot:
Wonderful!!!
Brocab the Stoner saw "holy spirit" @ Luke11:33 & John 1:33.

Blind as you are, blind you will always be-you cant even get your verses right-do you see {Luke 11:33} written above?
Are you also a fool to believe the Spirit in Jesus was separate to His Father-or maybe if you have enough sense, you may read the scriptures and look up these verses I have written down, and maybe if you have any brains left in you, you would read Jesus had the Holy Spirit just like His Father is Spirit, working together as One.
Don't you believe the JW's preach the same message-are you also working together with one mind and one heart, preaching your false doctrine across the globe.
It takes a fool to believe Jesus was separate from His Father-and having separate Spirits working in them both. The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One..

SubPlot:
Wonderful!!!
Brocab the Stoner saw "holy spirit" @ Luke11:33 & John 1:33.

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:15am On Jan 04, 2023

If you told me you were a stoner like I believe Max is, I would believe you too,

Janosky:
Brocab,in which sentence of your Luke11:33 or John 1:33 did Jesus call holy spirit your deity or say worship it?

Oga, carry your mumu doctrine go to dustbin.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:12am On Jan 04, 2023

You don't even believe in the verse, how can you be one with anybody who's connect to Christ.

Janosky:
You are desperate to add to the holy scriptures.

Is "holy spirit" mentioned at John 17:22?

Oga,carry your GIBBERISH outta this thread.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:54am On Jan 04, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
Jesus said his BORN AGAIN friends will have the same line of thought {John 17:22} so go and settle your differences first before coming to advertise your type of BORN AGAIN to JWs!

{John 17:22} I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one.
You don't even believe in this verse-when Jesus claims He is One with His Father, so how can you be one with them, when you don't believe in the word trinity, so it would be impossible for you, to believe, the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One.
You JW's believe Jesus spirit is separate from Jehovah's spirit, so how does your spirit connect?
Your knowledge of the Holy Spirit, is some type of a active force, so how does a active force connect-it would be like a electric shock.
If you were honest within, and told me you were a stoner, I would believe you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:23am On Jan 04, 2023*

MaxInDHouse:
Just name one or two of your fellow believers on this forum who aren't BORN AGAIN that's all!

Would I have any fellow believers on this forum who aren't born again, answer to that, "No they wouldn't be my fellow believers.
My fellow believers are born again in Christ. your follow believers are JW's who are born into your organisation..
There's is a difference between both belief's.
What happen to all the love you have for your fellow neighbor, you preach it so well, what happened to your patience and your love you have for your fellow man.
Jesus say's: {Matthew 10:14} And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet.
Jesus never told them to abuse them, calling them satanist-He said; walk away, let God deal with them.
The truth is, you really don't have any patience, nor do you have the love for your fellow man you boost about-this is just a lie to draw people further into the Hell you belong too..
The Lord say's: we know them by their fruit.
I have in the past sat down and studied with elders belonging to the Watchtower, rebating scriptures, there is nothing you can say about the Watchtower that will persuade me to think otherwise!

MaxInDHouse:
Still you haven't answered the simple question Mr Churchgoer
Satanists always contradicting yourselves on this forum yet you're all claiming BORN AGAIN!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:25pm On Jan 03, 2023

Janosky:

God is a Spirit. A spirit is one being.
Jesus Christ is another spirit, therefore a distinct being, different from his Father.
1 Corinthians 11:3, a man & wife are not 1 being, neither Jesus & his Father.
Brocab you are a polytheist worshipping your 3 beings.
Oga, stop deceiving yourself

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:15pm On Jan 03, 2023

It was a stupid question, so I refuse to answer something so childish.
It's easy for me to recognize who's my fellow believers, I read their language how they speak about God.
It's like I recognize your language, it's not from God-it's Watchtowers literature: which has nothing to do with Jesus.
You may come claiming-but the Watchtower are more focused upon Jehovah-not Jesus.
So obviously you are speaking another language, that has nothing to do with God Himself. Turn from your evil way Max and give yourself to Christ-only He can save you-heal you, and takeaway the blindness out of your eye;s..

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah for you o!

Now i believe you're not from Nigeria because you often miss simple and straightforward questions.

I asked for two of your fellow believers not JWs nah?

In fact none of the JWs on this forum is BORN AGAIN so mention just two of your own brethren who aren't BORN AGAIN!

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:51pm On Jan 03, 2023

What Bible verses support the Trinity?
The word “Trinity” never appears in the Bible, but God reveals himself throughout Scripture as one being {Deut 6:4, John 10:30} in three persons {Gen 1:2; Matt 3:16–17, 1 Pet 1:2}
The Trinity exists in 3 persons
{Isaiah 48:16}
{Matthew 3:16–17}
{Matthew 28:19}
Now open your eye's Janosky and wake up to yourself-the scriptures don't lie against the truth..

Janosky:
Please state the Bible verses where your own Jesus worshipping 3 persons deities.

Or get lost!

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:08pm On Jan 03, 2023

Janosky and of course you Max are not fellow believers and you are not born again!

MaxInDHouse:
Just name one or two of your fellow believers on this forum who aren't BORN AGAIN that's all!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:56pm On Jan 03, 2023*

Jesus made a point of it 'when he was talking with the Pharisee-Jesus told Nicodemus, one must be born again before he can enter into God's kingdom. These are the true Christians, Jesus had separated them, from the rest of the world..
{john 3:1-3} Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
Jehovah witnesses, are born into there organisation: without your organisation Jehovah witnesses believe they are disqualified from becoming a Christian. Jehovah witnesses rely upon the Watchtower to see them through as a guidance.
That's the different's you are born into your organisation, without it, you are classed as a outcast.
[color=#000000]And how do I know a true Christian: by their words, I recognize God's language they speak. We are One in Christ.[/color]
Now many religions do come in Jesus's Name, but they come speaking another language, this language is not from God.
{James 2:19} You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!
There's only one door into Heaven-through Jesus Christ, you can call on Jehovah as much as you like, but he can't save you, all authority was given to Jesus.
Jehovah witnesses believe Watchtowers chosen few of a 144000 will be fit to be with Jehovah in heaven-while the rest stay behind waiting for Jehovah to give them the new earth, so while you JW's wait upon the Watchtowers promise.
Let the Word of God prove to you your theory is wrong-let's look further into the Word. where does God's people souls go after they die?
.{ Luke 23:36-43} Two men who were guilty of their crimes hung next to Him that fateful day. Both men spoke to Jesus, but only one would die to be greeted into the promise of Heaven. Jesus speaks these truthful words: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."
Now we know the criminal's spirit isn't waiting around in the grave waiting for Christ to come back, the criminal's spirit is already with the Lord. As promised..
{John 14:6} Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Many have come in Jesus Name claiming to be Christian, And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
Jehovah witnesses believe Michael the archangel is Jesus, they also believe Satan and Jesus are brothers. So obviously Charles Russell seen a light, but with Charles description of Jehovah is not what it seems.

MaxInDHouse:
Who is not BORN AGAIN out of all these people contradicting themselves on this forum?

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