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U guys are still fighting yourselves over God's blessings. Pity. I have forgotten this thread and moved on since some ppl find it hard to understand that God can bless a man above a nation. Read my summary here

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-641603.160.html#msg8081796

LeoMax:
Bishop Oyedepo, Chris Oyhakilome and the others who have not yet offended me are not depending on the congregations funds. But the politicians find it difficult to launder funds, so they keep it with the church's accounts, and pay 10% to the Pastors, ofcourse this is an inside deal am aware of. So what these pastors do is tell the world they are opening churches at other African Countries and abroad and launder the funds purportedly for building the churches. This is money laundering to the highest. These Pastors are richer than State Governments, doubt me if you can but if you need more insights and evidences for the EFCC and ICPC, write me on leomacs4all@yahoo.com and I will give you details, cos I am involved and my share of 3b naira is yet to reach me from 2 separate deals with 5 men of God, dont ask me which bank I work with.

Mr Journalist. Keep it up! But try ask Ananias the payment for making mockery of spiritual things. I wish you well sha

Pain:
Brother, Lucrative is an Understatement. It's Really Gigantic Business. The Gospel Industry Turnover for 2010 is still in Speculation but Analysts' Conservative Estimate Put it @ Over 900 Bilion Naira. The Only Pain is That We Have A Very Dumb Govt That Has Not Taught It Fit To Tax Them. Much of this Remains Unaccounted for in GNP Figures. In fact, the Only Informal Sector Biz Second & Third to it are the Organized Crimes of Illicit Drugs & Kidnapping Respectively.

Calling the kingdom business GIGANTIC is even an understatement. We need a better word. Even Jesus used words like I must be about my Father's business. The problem with you guys is mental slavery. What is a business?

Noun /ˈbiznis/
businesses, plural

  1. A person's regular occupation, profession, or trade
     
  2. An activity that someone is engaged in
       
  3. A person's concern
         
  4. Work that has to be done or matters that have to be attended to
       
  5. The practice of making one's living by engaging in commerce
         
  6. Trade considered in terms of its volume or profitability
       
  7. A commercial house or firm
     
  8. An affair or series of events, typically a scandalous or discreditable one
       
  9. A group of related or previously mentioned things
       
 10. Actions other than dialogue performed by actors
     
 11. A scolding; harsh verbal criticism
       
As you can see, being in ministry is also being in business but a business  whose profits are also eternal

cantell:
An apology with a "but". Nigerian christians!
Either you're sorry or not.
Tell yourself the truth!

Before you claim being cursed again, cant you even understand lines. I am simply telling you that I accept cursing is wrong but you are also trying to correct me making the same mistake you claim i made. Or cant you even see harsh in your own words. Please back to the subject. Thanks

fstranger3:
From me personally? Around N100,000 from tithes and offerings. From my mother? around N5000,000. No kidding. Thank God for American visa lottery, I for still be maga by now. I now know that what my brain can solve, I need not ask some scammers to help me with it.

Was this thread about me and my life?  You can open a new thread if you want t learn more about my awesome life.

What exactly is your point?

I dont believe in paying Peter to pay Paul. I dont need scammers to show me the way. I am currently fulfilling my own American dream.I dont need Oyedepo to show me the 'way'

Well, thanks for the offer. I am taking you up on it. I have a Chase account with account number 9488928806, please I'd appreciate it if you can deposit the money before the end of this month.

Jesus is Lord, all the time.

Can you imagine! American VISA S.lavery was it for you. Chai. Mental Poverty!

Guy find your own dream and live it.

If tithes and offerings are a scam, then I am happy with it cos it has opened my heaven.

cantell:
@bros1234,
When you curse and insult people in order to prove your point, what does that say abt you?
Are you a true christian? Or some religious fanatic?
After reading thru your posts, i realized you're in the same page with muslims.

Well if I cursed anybody or used harsh words, that was wrong and I accept that. But as you can see, you have not succeeded in  correcting me cos what you claim I did which you dont like is exactly what you have also done by your post. So bro, bless U.

 

ANGELMARIA:
for crying out loud,how many chariots did christ use in going places to spreading the gospel?there are so many poor ones out there who don't even know where their next meal is to come from.so many many sick ones,motherless ones to mention but a few.this i9s definitely not christ-like.haba!

Same old rehearsed sentimental crap to attract more pity.

And how many of those poor ones have you helped. How many strangers have you housed and clothed? Do you know how many millions these men spend in sending thousands of kids to school annually and how many poor get a life back through them.

If you dont know what to say, just read what others said and move on.

fstranger3:
And, why do they perform[b] magic[/b] miracles

Anywhooo, that they are doing is morally reprehensible. They are all scammers, nothing more, nothing else. And the biggest scammer in Nigeria today is Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye, followed by that 'apari' Oyedepo and then Oyakhilome.

How much have they scammed from you? What and what have you done in your life? Where are you coming from and where are you going? My dear, the way to rise is not to fight with those who are already standing and can help you. I invite you to make out time and decide to attend any program of any of these men you have mentioned. Let me sponsor  you (no jokes)to it, to and fro, with some change for your sachet water. Believe me, your life will never remain the same

switchmax8:
bros1234,
You are one of the most not-so-smart person i have ever witnessed on nairaland you are a fool and it seems you are not educated enough neither you were able to read books on religion.
I guess you are sick i will not say more than this.where is it in the bible that wealth accumulation is part of preaching christianity?

First, I want t say that if believing the bible and the message of prosperity means not been smart and being a fool, then I should say you have spoken well cos I would rather be a fool believing what the Bible says and God's power to bless financially, than being smart not believing God and His power to make men, nations and ministries wealthy. Are you ok now?

One question for you though, where did the bible say that being poor is preaching Christianity? Olodo educated man

Beync:
I will show u d judgement of d great harlot (Christiandom/Men of gods) who sits on many waters(Peoples,multitudes, nations & tongues) with whom d kings of d earth committed fornication, & d inhabitants of d earth(Oyedepo followers) were made drunk with d wine of her fornication. Very soon these so called men of gods will soon be caught up for exploiting their members, induldging in political and commercial business of of d world acquiring themselves with wealth that will rust in fire rather than building up treasures in heaven.

What a nice thing to know that you will not be one of God's gate man on his judgment day. I pray that you and your entire generation will not do any business cos its in the world. May you all never acquire wealth and just labour for heavenly treasure. Poor woman

switchmax8:
until we get the peck off our eyes nigeria will remain docile in the hands of religion leaders living life of opulence in a country that average nigerian lives daily on 8$ and you are here saying touch not my anointing.they use the bible to instil fear on the congregation so that they cannot be question.
questions you people refused to aswer are below

1.Is that how jesus lived his life before he died?
2.does jesus acquire any property in los angeles,washington or has any private jet,ship or yatch?
3.does jesus live a life of opulence?
4.what does the bible say in Ecclesiastes?vanity upon vanity all is vanity.
5.what does the bible says about religion leaders rubbing shoulders with politicians yet,could not tell them the truth about leading a country.
6.what moral right has he got to own an oil well?
7.Does jesus own oil well in israel?does he appropiate any wealth to himself or family.
8.what has religion gat to do with business empire?christianity is a selfless services not business empire the way nigerians have taken it.
why cant we wake up for once it is a wake up call that will make nigerian a better place religion is business empire now even business men are investing in it.
A pastor once told us that he was persuaded by a group of business men that he will be given 500m naira if he can leave his present church to establish his he refused because of the love he has for the church not what he will gain though the man is wealthy as well.
What does this teach us?that christianity is a business that even politicians now supports it is high time they list their stock in NSE and lets those interest have a share of their pie.
Oneluv God will see us through and release those that have been blindfolded by the sugarcoated pastors that he has been called or he is a man of God

While on earth Jesus moved on entourage. He used the best of the best means of transport then. The boat he used had a cabin furnished that he could enjoy sleeping with a pillow. His garments  were highly priced that soldiers betted for it. People used the costliest perfumes on him. The day he fed 5000 men excluding women and children his first question was where could we buy bread to feed them. If the money was not there, there would be no need to ask where to buy

You see, you are so backward to understand the Bible. Jesus was rich by all standards while on earth but chose to die like a poor man b/c of you and i. If Jesus was on earth today I have no doubt he would go on entourage with the best means of transport.  

Wealth is nothing before God as long as it is used for the right purpose which is reaching out to the world with the good news. That is what we are doing in winners. The schools, the churches, the universities, the jets (oh that, expect more), are all vehicles of reaching out to the world with the good news.

You are talk about oil well just b/c a poster mentioned it. I pity you. You are so daft that you cannot even pick between the lines. I would be the happiest if the man of God owned an oil well. But it will suffice you to know that this man all his life has devoted everything to just studying, praying and preaching. Wake up

C-Ronaldo, Nisaac

Thank you very much. You have made this thread a beautiful one.

People need to understand that God can bless a man above a nation if found faithful. I wish it was the 5th jet we acquired.

If your did not read this post, just go and read it
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-641603.160.html#msg8081796

The point is God can bless an individual above a nation, if the person is faithful. Solomon yearly income was put at 708 Million. He had what you can say is 40,000 drivers and kills 1, 000 cows daily to feed servants. When God says you will give to nationa He means he can bless a man more than a nation

I know when the man Oyedepo received his first 1 million dollars, which he sowed into Idahosa Ministry, that was in the 90's. So dont be moved when you hear 100 million dollars. He is worth more than that.

You are talking about 4 jets, what about Keneth Copeland that has given out 28 jets and has his own private run. Guys wake up from poverty mentality. We are all doing our best to help men out of poverty but that doesnt mean we should not celebrate God's blessings when we have the opportunity

190:

You are Just plain blind

I am not calling this man a direct fraud but whatever hes doing i really think is not the best for his ministy

How many Jobs has  that man created for the nigerian markets, even if not for the market for the members of his church for a start

What is he using 4 jets for, Is it to park members of his church from Ojota to mile 2

my brother read between the lines, even if its the president of Nigeria that has such private Jets people would conclude its the nigerian public funds

not to mention a private pastor from one church, if he has really been blessed GLORY be to God but for him to spend such amounts of money for Jets

hangers and mentainance shows how fraudulent he is, you want to tell me now that man doesnt know that people are wallowing in adject proverty

or do only members of his church gain from his material wealth,if that man should come out tomorrow with half a million naira each and distribute it
amongst youths in that country tell me how much lives he must have touched

ABEGI FORGET STORY JARE::

You guys should keep paying, I hope he rides his 4JETS to heaven  

Its things like this that keeps making Nigeria as a nation so backward in everything they do

rubbish  

I think you are the one who is beein s.tupid. Read what you wrote. So you will sit in your house and know what is good for the members of winners. Bishop Oyedepo is one of the greatest entrpreneurs in this country. Let me tell you as an insider, every year, a particular amount (let me not mention)of money is released for the members to access  for small scale businesses.

Winners Chapel has created thousands of jobs and the employees are est paid in AFrica. Open your eyes and let poverty mentality leave you

Hmmm! I celebrate with papa. The church of God is on the wings and lets ride it out guys.

Those of you who dont understand the level of blessing the man of God is enjoying now simply have poverty mentality. You are just confused because 15 billion naira is involved. Your mind cannot weigh that king of money. Pity

If you dont know yet please know that God do bless individuals who have proved faithful even above nations. Solomon in the Bible was so rich even above many nations. Take a look at the Bible estimate of Solomon's wealth in modern calculation,

2 Chronicles 9:13  says that Soloman had a basic yearly revenue of 666 Talents or 22,000 kilograms of Gold. A talent weighed between 20 and 40 KG but the average estimated is 33kg. The price today of one kilogram of Gold is estimated at $32,200 so his yearly income was $708,400,000 a year. Seven hundred eight million, four hundred thousand dollars a year

He killed over 1,000 cows daily and had over 40,000 private drivers.

That is far more than what many nations are worth today, not to talk of those days. And in his days there were thousands of poor, sick and what have you.

As at early 90s that was when Oyedepo received his first 1 million dollars gift which he went and sowed into the ministry of Idahosa. I am not surprised that God is blessing this man even above the wealth of many nations. Do you know that Landmark University in Kwara that just took off will have her first 1,000 students from year one to final on a full scholarship, cortesy of God's servant, Oyedepo?

Guys wake up. Be free from poverty mentality.

You are still talking about 4 jets only. Stay there. Keneth Copeland has a private run way and has given out over 28 air crafts. Can you beat that? Be faithful to God and he can lift you above money.

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buzugee:
how do you explain samuel jackson, morgan freeman and denise farina who got their big break in their forties and early fifties ? how do you explain denzel washington who looked like crap in his twennies but blossomed in his forties to be the desire of every woman in america ? how do you explain george bush still being a cretin at 60 ? my point being that you are full of crap. you dont compartmentalize human life like you do sardines

Its obvious u are daft and cannot reason simple philosophical statements. at 20s  ppl ar more concerned with looks and some emotional high thing. from 30s one shld have direction and focus. from 40s u shld hav some proofs about ur direction and frm 50s,,,blah blah blah.

U better start thinking and stop showing everyone how s.tupid u are

if you are not handsome at 20, strog at 30, rich at 40, wealthy at 50, wise at 60, you will no longer be handsome, strong, rich, wealthy and wise

Think

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9jvirgin:
Dis thread is a gutter baloney, an uneducative antiquity, a flagrant display of insanity dat has no propinquity with intelligent gatherings

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Oyedepo as well as others do their own bit of good. just that they do not make noise. for example. i know that almost evry year the ministry - winners- provides over 100M for small scale business assistance to the members

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