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adioolayi:
You are talking about an ideal political system..

I am talking about a system that is not ideal..Nigeria's politics is not ideal

The impeachment will be illegal and he will be forced to seek redress at the court.

This is Nigeria bro

Illegal Impeachment in Rivers state ...lol .....20 Wikes no fit try am

Ikumapkayi:
He is a gonna. This is what happens when a kindergatten holds sway in a state.

Oga na you be kindergatten here .

Lawmakers who are struggling to retain their seats even after a sworn affidavit of decamping to another party will impeach a sitting Governor . It can never happen in any state in the Niger Delta and not when the Ijaws are SOLIDLY behind Fubara ...

Rhado:
I wonder why busola's did not resist, shout or struggled with him then at least to alert those who were at home then. They may have had sex but necessarily rape.
She said she was a virgin then and someone was about taking your virginity in such manner and you couldn't do anything. Why didn't you tell anyone in the family then or your own family wouldn't have believed you? You guys should have set him up to catch him and he raped you 4 times in a week.
I think may be there was agreement that didn't go well back then so it's pay back time.
They "may" have had sex but not rape.
My opinion though.

A typical.ilorin girl may not have your lagos street sense .

From the interview he was someone with the testimony of a former notorious cultist that had been converted

When someone you are beginning to trust as pastor shows up in the morning not to ask you out but use physical strength to pin you down with the statement that if you corporate you will be fine ..you no longer are seeing a pastor or an ordinary man you are seeing a cultist and depending on the mood and person in question shouting for help.may not readily come as an option .

In the video she said she told her siblings and her brother finally knew about it too and confronted the pastor . That the pastor came to their house to beg that it was the devil

Let's not be too smart and try to twist the story

She said she is responding to a calculated attempt to change the narrative and cause further emotional pain that's why she is forced to come out and say her truth

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TonyeBarcanista:
Written by TonyeBarcanista

I have been following the alleged rape incident between Mrs Bisola Dakolo, the wife of musician Timi Dakolo, and Pastor Biodun, the Senior Pastor at COZA, where Mrs Dakolo alleged that Pastor Biodun had multiple canal knowledge of her without her consent as a then 17 years old teenager, an incident that allegedly happened some 20 years ago.

I have watched the pronouncements of some social media jurists and popular figures, including some politicians, musicians, influencers and actors, with most pronouncing judgement against the accused (Pastor Biodun) and a few others "standing with the accused".

May I add my voice to this subject...

1. Does Being A Philanderer Makes One A Rapist?

A couple of people, including Mr Timi Dakolo, the husband of Bisola, have accused Pastor Biodun to be a man that engage in inappropriate relationship with several female members of his COZA church, while that remains an unproven allegation, some commentators pronounced the pastor as "guilty" of rape because of his too many "womanising scandals", while some others narrated his philandering days in Ilorin, Kwara state, where he allegedly had multiple romps with several ladies of loosed virtues. While the allegations/testimony may be true, half truth or completely untrue, it still does not help the allegation of Mrs Bisola.

Rape is non-consented sexual relations and it is a criminal offence. Having multiple sexual partners is not a crime under the law irrespective of moral or spiritual opinion.

2. Bisola Dakolo Herself Was Accused of Having Sexual Relations With COZA Clerics

On May 30, a certain female with Instagram handle @elenapipper informed Mr Timi Dakolo that his own wife, Bisola, who incidentally is the accused of Pastor Biodun, was involved in illicit sexual relationship with Pastors of COZA church and some of her choir colleagues. While the claim of Elena remains an allegation, I believe that "2+2" should be put together by social media jurists if their intent is to give social media justice. I am yet to see the response of Timi and Bisola to that allegation and in all honesty, I expect the Dakolos to sue Elena for defamation/libel so as to prove their innocence- just like several social media jurists have challenged Pastor Biodun to do.

3. The Media Is Not The Appropriate Place To Lodge Criminal Complaint

I have said it umpteenth time that the media, be it traditional media or social media, is not a police station to lodge criminal complaints. The traditional media is interested in selling papers while the social media is highly interested in cashing out on trending issues. Popular faces and celebrities are interested in jumping on trending issues so as to stay relevant while influencers are interested in swaying perception. Majority of these commentators and social media jurists aren't interested in vindicating the innocent and to bring the real guilty party to JUSTICE. I heard of a planned protest at COZA Church by some so-called CSOs, but that again is just to sway public opinion and not necessarily see to that JUSTICE is done.

However, the appropriate thing for Bisola Dakolo to do is to first go to the Police station nearest to her, report the case, get her witnesses and other evidence, assist the Police in their investigation and ensure that the accused is charged appropriately to establish his innocence or guilt and get justice, which can only be dispensed by the court.

4. My Position On The Rape Allegation By Bisola Against Pastor Biodun

Rape is a crime against humanity and a robbery of ones dignity, it is a serious crime that should be treated as an offence worse than armed robbery- because the victim is robbed mentally, emotionally and psychologically.

However, rape accusation is one that should be properly lodged at the Police station and investigated by the appropriate police officer, and if found to be true, the perpetrator be punished. But if otherwise, the accuser be punished. As such, I neither agree with the accuser (Bisola) nor the accused (Pastor Biodun) just yet, but proper investigation be done.


Convulsively, we should allow wisdom be our guide in making judgement! May justice be done!


TonyeBarcanista can be reached via gmail at TonyeBarcanista@gmail.com

https://www.thebreakingtimes.com/rape-allegation-between-bisola-pastor-biodun-and-social-media-jurists-tonyebarcanista/

My only question to you is " did you listen to the video interview or you are asking this questions based on hearsay

If you listened to the complete interview and still following this line of thought then I am extremely dussapounted in you

I think she is talking too much .

I don't think she is insane

I think some things she has said are true

dragonking3:
It is obvious that you are being sentimental here. Have you ever heard of the word "whatever you say will be used against you in the court of law "? Guess what, otobo has been saying alot which will make her loose this case if she can't provide proof to all her claims and allegations. The court won't select some part (1,2,3) and leave the others(4,5,6) hanging. It is even a shame that her lawyers didn't advise that she keep quiet or reduce her ranting.
The best thing she did was to flee back to Canada because she will most likely join aunty Kemi in port Harcourt prison

See you don't build a case from the sky . na from ground them dey start. I have said earlier that the inconsistencies in her story will affect 4,5 and 6 but nobody . judge or lawyer will start case from there . you must address 1,2,3 first . don't understand how you are mentioning sentiments here .

dragonking3:
Is adultery a criminal offence in the court of law? If no then he took this case to court on the claim that he killed an innocent child via concoction and abortion. And yes it is a crime to kill and commit illegal abortion

May be we need to see the details of the defamation suit first . because I doubt if he will be bold to say yes I committed adultery but I am suing her for soiling my name that I committed an abortion.

Mind you Stephanie will still be claiming that she was actually pregnant and I doubt if the court will pronounce that she is lying . what the court will say is that she has not been able to prove beyond doubt that there was an abortion or pregnancy as the case may be.

My guy if 1,2,3 are proven even his lawyers will not have the energy to press further charges . its so simple

dragonking3:
Wrong. Did she agree to have sex, if yes then it is not a criminal offence. But did she say that he killed the baby in her womb when pregnant? Take note, it implies that she is calling the pastor a murderer. Now she will have to provide proof to this claim or else she will be charged for defamation and allegation that the pastor poisoned her with concoction and killed the baby in her womb. Big offense

OK . so you believe the pastor is more interested in clearing his name on the abortion claim than adultery claim ?

dragonking3:
You don't get it. 1,2,3 is not a criminal offence and will not do more harm than it has already done. But she not being able to prove 4,5,6 will land her instantly in prison for defamation because she has no evidence to such claims.

Once 1,2,3 can be proven , even if the others can't be proven defarmation can NEVER STAND .

dragonking3:
Simple. This is the logical reasoning Nigerians should be doing. Now the prostitute will have to provide tangible proof to her claim which will be extremely difficult. She knows that and Sahara reporters knows that as well as they are in deep mess if they can't prove that she was pregnant or an abortion was done by the pastor or traditional introduction.

You can't be too sure she does not have what it takes to prove 1,2,3 anyway

dragonking3:
You see the problem with you guys, you lack wisdom. Now what is the issue here? Was it rape? She claimed that they had sex which isn't a criminal offence. What she is sueing for is that apostle suleman failed to keep his promise to marry her, which she also doesn't have evidence to such promise. So better remove your mind from rape and be realistic or better still keep shut and let the judge do his work

Sex by mutual consent between two adults is not a crime anywhere . however in this case you have to keep it in view that suleman is a pastor . An apostle for that matter . no matter what people say about no one being infallible , there is an expected behavioural code for pastors . even apostle responded that someone can not carry the kind of anointing he has and be messing around .


I am very happy he has taken this step. Definitely someone will be worse off even before the conclusion of this case . can't say who it will be.

Stephanie's claims:
1. there was a relationship and meeting in various hotels
2. there was sex,
3. Huge sums were transfered to her account.
4. there was some form of introduction ,
5.there was pregnancy
6. there was an abortion which was not by mutual consent and her life was put in danger .

For her to claim damages and get financial compensation 4,5,6 have to be proven . my take is that her chances are very slim here . this is where I find inconsistencies in her claims .

For apostles reputation to be badly hit and possibly threaten ministry 1,2,3 have to be proven . I don't want to say what I think here . just judge it dispassionately and you will see whose chances are brightet here .

Don't also forget that Sahara reporters have been joined in the suit . which gives them the real need to take a deeper dive into the matter .

felixomor:
1.Which story did u hear from the apostle?
2. Which part of Apostle story Doesnt add up,

And please dont change topic

For saying he has never met her in person before

For saying she has links with boko haram

obailala:
Seems like you totally underestimate the power, influence and cult followership the man wields compared to the girl. Seems like you also forget the kind of country you come from where the 'big men, never lose court cases. Have you ever asked yourself why our rich looters never get convicted?...

I still state it again, the things the girl has submitted as evidence so far hold no weight.

Bros forget story .

The day apostle enters that witness box . matter don spoil be that . except someone like keyamo decides to back down . he is not an easy meat to chew so all this big man trend in Nigerian courts may not hold then . besides never underestimate the kind of sympathy Stephanie can get from unexpected quarters as more facts are dished out.

I have said it and still repeat that an out of court settlement is the best option for apostle . he has to do it fast .

Ogboju has limits

felixomor:
If u cant answer even from the contents of this thread whether she lied or not at least concerning her family?

Then Sorry to say, your heart is not clean...

Oga . reading the different posts here . I can say I doubt your sincerity . are you seeking the truth or you have already made your conclusions ? You ask people question as if you are honestly seeking the truth but tactically want to force people to your position . abeg don't try to think for anybody .

The story from both sides don't add up . simple . its not Stephanie alone that is not saying the whole truth .

otobo is doing media trial .

wetin we go call this one, church trial ?

I thought witnesses like this would be more helpful in a proper court hearing .

Just thinking .........

Segibambo:
Stupidity should have bounds

Oga this one wey you dey is not true . if the name was inserted wrongly why was the correct one not used to replace it ? Instead it was left blank .

Like I said Stephanie is adding salt and pepper to her story bit there ate questions for apostle too .

Are you not surprised that the robust response Daniella Okeke promised from her lawyers is over 2 weeks and nothing yet ?

Well if you look critically you will see inconsistencies in her story . if you Also look critically you will see questions begging for answers from apostles side .

In law adultery is not a crime provided it is between two consenting adults . hence while she has given details that suggest adultery she is also trying to add bits that can help her press for damages or some compensation . na there I feel say she dey lie .

The police is expected to be doing an independent investigation now from where proper legal fireworks will begin . apostle or not . both parties go enter witness box and things will be revealed . QED

The mata don reach court . as we speak the police is supposed to be doing their independent findings . so make everybody kool temper . the real truth will still surface .

Personally I feel the story from both sides don't add up only time will reveal all

Where is the robust response from her lawyers ? We ate still waiting

One thing I have learnt from this apostles scandal is that most OFM members are not born again .

Dem lie pass lai Mohammed

davo90tico:
I STAND WITH APOSTLE JOHNSON SULEMAN
I STAND WITH JESUS
I STAND WITH OFM
I STAND WITH TRUTH

My dear if you
STAND WITH JESUS and
STAND WITH TRUTH .


you may not need the other two . let your focus be on Jesus and the truth

QED

Do you have books by Philip Yancey ?

Even johnson suleiman would not have accepted this posture of silence or excuse of government or el rufai as a response to all these weighty allegations.

If you are a regular listener of "ministers without blemish" sermons from him. You definitely will be surprised by the excuses so far.

I can tell you other ministries who may have invited him for any programme for the remaining part of the year would either have cancelled it or planning to do so.

uboma:
the only man born from a woman that was without blemish is Jesus Christ.

Your Apostle Suleiman is not a perfect man, same goes to all the self acclaimed clergy men today.

Not being perfect and being a sexual pervert are different things

abdulaz:
Na the church goers offerings and tithe money wey suleman they carry dash all these oloshos dey weak me.

**Religious houses are fraud havens**

The soup wey apostle cook Don done. Na for am to begin chop remain. This is getting disgusting.

If Stephanie no take time some other lady go collect her shine. Because e be like say some people story set pass her own

Some new lady is presumed to have a new story on this and there is still silence. I don't understand

nocera:
Thank you sir... But your submission that my above mentioned Biblical characters do not hold any relevance in this case is unwelcome.

The case of King David was that of adultery and murder, among other things but God chose a prophet...not any ordinary man to speak God's mind to David. I think our conclusions on this matter and related matters stems from our suspicions and bias of men of God, instead of the fear of sacred truths.

Bros David was a king, he had both spiritual and political power. It was not his spiritual standing that would have restrained the people from confronting him. If someone can arrange to kill another man and take his wife na you wey come accuse am go stay alive.

But God said he had given even enemies possibly outside Israel a reason to blaspheme. Did you hear GOd say he was going to punish them?

In this case some of us are not accusing him but need him to clarify issues. If he clarified and possibly confessed he made some mistakes and some people go on abusing him, then you can talk spiritual authority.

For now he needs to speak especially as he is trying to rope the church into the matter as witchhunt for his stance against Fulani herdsmen. .

Tenkobos:
What did she say please??

Don't mind the guy. That video is where apostle said in 24hrs she will be disgraced and confess and things have already started happening. Question is what has started happening? 24hours never reach?

Don't mind the OP

False claim. She has not said so.


I am seeing a grand scheme to confuse the public. The lady is still giving more damning confessions

alobright17:
Which current news from who?my Friend stop deceiving yourself.

I was going to ask same question but decided to correct the error in scriptural interpretation first.

tripplephi:
when will you learn to MIND your own BUSINESS.... HE HAS HEARD THE FINAL SAY FROM GOD and is waiting for GOD's vindicATION.... stop celebrating a DEAD ISSUE.... HE IS HEALING THE SICK and casting out devils in the USA crusade and i saw the miracles LIVE and DIRECT.... there are better things to do with your life than answer peeps who do not know what they are doing... EVEN JESUS DIDNT ANSWER ANYONE OF HIS CRITICS WHEN HE WAS ON THE journey of the CROSS....

PLS rest cos only dissapointment awaits anyone seeking this matter to blow up... SULEMAN is already on top and no scandal can bring him down. AM ON THE LORD's SIDE not on anyone.

IN THIS LIFE... no matter what one does... people must talk shaaa.

My brother I have listened to one of his messages about divine exclusion Mathew 7:6 . In that message he explained that performing miracles and healing is not a sign that GOd is happy with you. He said the first healing that happened in the Bible was when Abraham prayed for abimelech and he had just finished lying.

He also said he was thanking God for the miracles that happened in his last crusade when God told him that the miracles were performed by Him(God) that he will not judge any man in the end by the things He God does in the man's life but by the holy walk the man has with him while on earth. That is why he said God told Abraham to walk before him and be perfect. Just. Note