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[right][/right] Thank you for reading my post sir. But in the light of the scriptures, when Prophetess Miriam, the elder sister of Moses and Aaron, his older brother also questioned his decision to marry a foreigner (an Ethiopian woman, Zipporah) as that was against their custom which even he, Moses subscribed to ,God's judgment fell on her, that is, Miriam. Numbers 12:1.. So I had that in mind sir when I held my opinion about a child who questions authority especially spiritual authority.

My brother let us always look at the complete context of things in the Bible. Yes Mariam and Aaron criticised Moses and GOd chastised them. The chastisement was not because of what they said in verse 1 but what they said in verse 2.

*[[Num 12:1-2/KJV]]And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. v 2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it.

So that verse 2 error which was challenging spiritual authority and subtle rebellion is what He chastised them for .


[[Num 12:6-8/KJV]]And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream. v 7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. v 8With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?


God was telling them that yes I speak to you guys too but I speak to Moses at a much higher level but for not recognizing hierarchy and showing some form of rebellion against Moses I will punish you.

God told David that I will punish you because you gave opportunity to the enemies of God to blaspheme by this your act. So when people seek clarification from him it is not disrespect, the name of the Lord is involved here.
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[[2Sa 12:14]] KJV* Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.


Now see what JEsus told the church of Ephesus

*[[Rev 2:2]] I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

Jesus is commending the church for checking out things and confirming the claims of even apostles. Let's be guided by the whole truth. Thank you

tripplephi:
when will you learn to MIND your own BUSINESS.... HE HAS HEARD THE FINAL SAY FROM GOD and is waiting for GOD's vindicATION.... stop celebrating a DEAD ISSUE.... HE IS HEALING THE SICK and casting out devils in the USA crusade and i saw the miracles LIVE and DIRECT.... there are better things to do with your life than answer peeps who do not know what they are doing... EVEN JESUS DIDNT ANSWER ANYONE OF HIS CRITICS WHEN HE WAS ON THE journey of the CROSS....

PLS rest cos only dissapointment awaits anyone seeking this matter to blow up... SULEMAN is already on top and no scandal can bring him down. AM ON THE LORD's SIDE not on anyone.

IN THIS LIFE... no matter what one does... people must talk shaaa.

OK sir.

People want to know the truth though. But if you say he has it covered already, in a matter of days we will know.

Cheers

I think this case has been poorly managed from apostles end.

As is he will be forced to talk

I know it is a tough task when men want you to speak on a matter that God has asked you to hold your peace.

Most of apostles supporters believe silence is the best answer for Stephanie otobo who they believe is either being used or seeking cheap popularity. Honestly I have been quite uncomfortable with the posture of silence .


Otobo worryingly made it clear in her latest interview that her petition to the police is to facilitate his arrest.

With this kind of petition and a lawyer like keyamo and Sahara reporters behind otobo, the police appear duty bound to at least obtain statement from apostle. From there I perceive the next level of fireworks will resume.

In my view the age of silence has expired. Things are likely to get much hotter in the coming days .

She says she is now asking for his arrest.

Those of you that still don't understand how complicated this is getting by the day need to look again.

By her petition the police is duty bound to invite him and take his statement for further verification.

subsurface:
@OP..

i pity u...

whether the man is guilty or not... he has said he has no case to answer;; yet u guys wouldnt mind ur business?

ARE U HIS GOD??

he is not a public servant so he is not mandated to confess or apologies to anyone publicly...

this has nothing to do with worshiping pastors or not... its jst simple common sense...

the man u are busy wasting ur valuable time taking abt; is busy right now in the USA making more waves & expanding his exploits & empire.

of a truth...

POOR PEOPLE ALWAYS WASTE THEIR VALUABLE TIME GOSSIPING ABOUT RICH/GREAT PEOPLE`s SUCCESS THAT THE RICH/GREAT PEOPLE GOT INVESTING THAT SAME TIME THAT THE POOR PEOPLE WASTED GOSSIPING.

This is the most irresponsible statement I have heard about this matter.

You guys think this your line of response will last?

Now that the police has been formally invited. The next thing will be for the police to invite apostle to answer some questions and provide some materials for their further investigation.

The lady had alleged illegal abortion which can be pressed in court so this defence of being answerable to God alone has expired. The lady may not be able to prove abortion but along the line she stands a good chance of proving adultery.


Make una fear God na

God bless this writer

MzzTega:
I don't know how people reason. This girl is being sponsored, too obvious.

Anyways, God will intervene.

that is why they want to investigate.

So make una relax

onos1979:
my friend, read with understanding and stop arguing foolishly, he is not denying sending otobo any money, but that he did on the basis of helping the needy.

Did the needy offer anything in return?

Has he ever met the needy in person?

Goke7:
when will this church keep quiet over this matter?

Good question.

This film still long be that.


Lol at lawyers working.

So with this long statement she no fit add just one line denying any amorous relationship with MOG while we wait for the robust response from lawyers.

Edelweiss44:
I have only told you the simple fact; if Jesus had walked the earth in this 21st century instead of 2000years ago, it is religious people like you that will accuse him of blasphemy or working with the devil's powers and then seek to crucify him. You did not answer any of those questions I posed to you, so I will not answer you further.

Make una leave Jesus out of this matter.

I can tell you a lot of lies have been told from both sides On this matter.

So if you guys are confident MOG and the lady have never met. Then let's see as events unfold. But note that you cant use a lie to protect the truth.

laudate:
You forgot to add that Stephanie Otobo alleged that the pastor gave her a concoction to drink when she was pregnant, and she bled for several months. Okay, o! She thinks Nigerians are dummies. Please let them ask her:

1). What is the name of the hospital where she was treated, when she started bleeding or when it persisted?

2). What is the name of the doctor that treated her?

3). What kind of treatment was administered on her to stop the bleeding?

4). At the time she allegedly got pregnant for the pastor, why did she not go public?

5). Where are the copies of her bank statements to show how often the pastor paid money into her account, and the full amounts that were paid?

6). Where are the boarding passes of the airline tickets to show that she travelled along with the pastor to different cities in Italy, like she claimed? On what airline?

Abeg, make I just stop here. The lady is a scammer, but she did not factor in the fact that the uproar her claims would generate, would turn into a backlash against her.

As for the car that the pastor was alleged to have bought for Daniella Okeke, nobody can make out the number plate of the car directly from the photograph. It is illegible. And some people have based their comments on an illegible vehicle number plate??! Chai!

That the lady is trying to take full advantage and cash in is not in doubt. Personaly I think the pregnancy and abortion twist is about the only ground she can seek some compensation legally in the Nigerian context.

However you guys most note that in trying to establish the abortion and pregnancy bit, the fact that there was physical meetting will be established and she will also try to prove that there was amorous relationship . After this point even if she is not convincing with the pregnancy bit, MOGs reputation would have been seriously battered .

Personally on the balance of available explanations I don't believe that there has never been a physical meeting between the parties. My advice na out of court settlement.


To preach effectively three things are key : logos which is the knowledge of the word. Pathos which is the passion of the preacher and the most important ethos which is the integrity or one's image before people. The way this is going someone already has a posture of low integrity and it will cost her nothing to soil the garment of MOG.

Edelweiss44:
Daniella does not send you people trying to drag her name into the mess. In fact, if I were her, I should be suing that Stephanie otobo for calling my name in this blackmail. But of course, your likes will easily believe Daniella is sleeping with Apostle Suleiman because of a mere photo of a car parked in a house. Car that you can't even prove the number plate was not photoshopped in the picture. House that you can't prove actually belongs to Daniella because you have never been there before. Some Nigerians honestly need to put their intelligence to use and stop being fooled by blackmailers and even politicians every 4 years!

Oga the earlier you understand that not everybody asking questions is against apostle the better. And please don't talk about intelligence or the lack of it because someone is not seeing it exactly like you.

Now to your point. I agree that Daniella has a right to sue Stephanie for mentioning her name. But now she has refused to do that not even to make a public statement. Does it bother you.

Someone like me will ask questions because you guys are linking this to his defence of the church during the herdsmen massacre. Although I know bishop oyedepos defence was more threatening.

Edelweiss44:
Provided what proof?? Are those photoshopped pictures proof of anything?? In case you are too backward technologically, let me inform you now that I can easily produce those so-called chat photos Stephanie cloned to deceive us. I have a former flatmate where I live that specialises in cloning photos like that, and he once told me his main customers were yahoo boys. provide me with your own picture and I'll forward it to him and in a couple of minutes you will see a photo of yourself replacing the part of Stephanie's released photos that supposedly has Apostle Suleiman. So don't come and expect us to be fooled by what we already know about.

How can you claim she provided proof when she can't provide a straightforward story? She said she took Apostle to her parents for marriage introduction, and her father has come out to refute that, saying that at no time did he ever meet Apostle Suleiman. Somebody that can lie with such thing as marriage introduction, why won't that person lie again with other things including a photoshopped picture. I actually don't blame Stephanie 100% for this nonsense going on because if Stephanie did not know there are too many gullible Nigerians out there that she can easily fool, she will not have attempted this grand scam!

What is your response to Daniella okeke who is now in the mix? Does it worry you that she is not even bold enough to respond to Stephanie's claims?

bezimo:
Apostle Suleiman is too dignified to relate with that idiot Stephanie, she is not even qualified to serve him water or sell pepper to him. Then you are claiming affair...
Who dash monkey banana....

If you watch Apostle Suleiman ministry, the anointing of the Holy Spirit been manifested, diverse deep revelations been exposed, that can ONLY come from above as well as the diverse divine interventions, you would know that its impossible for A man of God to be living an immoral life and still carry that kind of global highly impacting anointing moving from nation to nation and state to state on a consistent basis.Not possible!!

You guys should stop this nonsense. What do you mean by saying she is not qualified to serve him water. What kind of ladies qualify. Please tell me.

Your logic is flawed

fortunejum:
It is art works if you know anything about coral draw. Give me a copy of your house building and a copy of your car and l will place the car in your house premises for you to see.

Oga forget this your coreL draw story. That car is presently being driven by Daniella.

You can never use a lie to protect the truth.

petra1:
Some blackmail are based on set up. A lady onced called me for emergency that her younger sister whom I asked her to bring for deliverance for a schyzophrenic case had arrived . We concluded we will meet following day since it was late . Later she called that the sister was fighting her and and brought out knife. I asked for the address and rushed there but I called some others to come and join me there . I saw a young man at the junction entrance and asked for the lady's room he described it. He appears to know me from the way he greeted me. I rushed into the house knocked on her room . The sister had ran out according to her. While she was narrating the incidence . There was a knock on the door. It was the guy. He said he was wanted to see me .she went out and answered him that , if he wanted to see me it shouldn't be in her house . The Other people came to meet me and we left .

I was shocked the following morning when this young man called me asking for help that I should assist him with 200k . I told him I don't have such on me for him .why don't he get a job.

The next thing he sent another message saying ." Mr Man if you know what's good for you . Better pay that 200k or else I will tell your wife and everybody what you were doing with that girl that night" I replied I only attended to an emergency . He said it's a lie that he peeped through the door keyhole and saw us doing whatever . Now the door was not all those olden days union key doors. It's a sealed door which you can't see through. He threatened to use the press. I threatened police will get . He replied that he had reported me to. Police already. So much was happening so fast I couldn't believe . I told my wife . About it. I started praying . Before I knew it . Someone called me from a local newspaper . That a report came and they are going to publish it. I had to call a lawyer friend to advice . That I wanted to go to police . He said he would not advice it because this look like set up and even though I will win the case but my name would have been dragged in the mud . He said he knew what to do if I allow him. I told him as long as it won't be criminal . Because the. Daring guy had already threaten a show down in my office . I told him we will beat him . He came still . Met the reception . I refused to show up . I said nobody should touch him. Later the guy called me to beg and the press man called to beg . I learnt the lawyer got a dreaded Militant whom they fear to warn them .

This is serious.

Life savings to buy one car. OK. Wetin be her work and yearly income.

Also tell us what savings was used to buy the house.

bbee:
NOBODY, I SAY NOBODY CAN DESTROY THE WORK OF GOD. NO MATTER THE RAGE OF HELL AGAINST OUR FATHER, THE DEVIL CAN'T SUCCEED. NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES, THE LIARS WILL CONFESS EXCEPT GOD IS NOT ON THE THRONE.

Just maintain an open mind. The liar in the case may be difficult to determine. It could swing either way but the things coming are not looking good at all

mantosa:
Hello Nairalanders,

Happy Sunday to you and I hope some of you went to church.

As regards the subject matter, I have followed the story from the beginning and I have been able to deduce some facts indicating that the lady in question - Stephanie Otobo is lying and the media lash is totally to discredit Apostle Suleiman.

Firstly, I am a passive Christian so don't assume I defending the Apostle, I am just being logical.

If this incident happened in 2015, why wait till 2017 to accuse him, interestingly after he spoke against El Rufai?

I remember Sulieman made a statement in 2015 against El Rufai after the latter threatened to close down churches in Kaduna, could it possibly be that was when the scheming started?

In her first series of videos, she claimed she has enough evidences to back her up but till now, she has only released a screenshot of a video call. Babes in the house, y'all know how you love snapping pictures every now and then even with friends. She is still yet to provide a solid evidence.

In a follow up press release, she claimed her laptop was stolen and that was where she had most evidences stored - I find this not straight forward.

Now to Daniella Okeke's issue, at first she mentioned the actress to be a Ghanian and she doesn't know her name but was able to figure out the name and even went as far as knowing Suleiman gave her a car.

Stephanie's claim is Apostle Suleiman slept with her on numerous occasions, got her pregnant and aborted the baby. Let her prove these statements beyond reasonable doubt and leave whosoever is involved with the pastor.

Now, I assume the media is the voice of the voiceless because I am a journalist myself, with Sahara Reporters at her disposal and having held a press conference, she should have laid everything down to the media.

Mentioning Daniella's name would only prolong the issue and if she is saying she only wants the truth to come out, then she should table the svidences and tackle Apostle, apparently she has a sinister plan hidden.

I know what a media frame up is, it drags so long that the personality of the character being targeted is maligned and damaged in the media world.

She also said his is a 'criminal', regardless of what your perception is towards Pastors, how is a promise of marriage a criminal offense?

I just thought to drop a few of my thoughts on the issue here. Please no insults.

lalasticala

You guys are giving too much credit to El Rufai . The. Man go just dey laff. He does not have a hand in it.

Let's focus on the case at hand. I too don't want to be caught accusing the innocent but the details coming out are shocking. Why do you think no pastor has come out in support of Suleiman? Its because everyone is shocked . Psychologically a case like blackmail can never come up if there isn't something to hide. Where you need to start from are the charges used to get her arrested

Now the Danielle issue Don enter and preliminary figures don't seem to favour Suleimans claims. I also struggle with the position that the lady is not in the class of ladies apostle can date. I can tell you that kind girl can seduce even strong men.

If you enter my house that has all my valuables and want to fight me. I won't, even if I am sure of beating you up. Why? Because after beating you I will still suffer lose of valuables at home.

I can tell you say ogboju no go work for this case. The longer it stays the more other ladies can be emboldened to come out. Let him just quietly seek out of court settlement and minimise the damage.

All the hotels the lady quoted abroad will likely have CCTV. And if she says she has submitted her accounts to police for investigation. Then it appears she is quite sure. Make una take am easy. When mosquito dey your scrotum you no go use hammer kill am else na die be that.

Also consider that it is very very difficult to get apostles direct line. If she has it and had been talking to him one on one then story still plenty be that

If pfn is wise it should maintain siddon look posture. Let the truth and the truth alone thrive .any attempt to drag the entire church in Nigeria to this may backfire seriously. After all Stephanie is not a Muslim

Nedsnow:
I am simply disappointed so many Nairalanders believed this Suleiman's tragic story. That babe is sponsored for Christ sake. Isn't that obvious to you guys?
How many weeks is it from the beginning of Suleiman's issue with the northerners? That's the source of all this if anybody should ask me.
We all claim we are educated. I think this is the time to prove it. This is politically influenced and it's just too obvious.

This theory of yours may be wrong. The gates of hell will never prevail against the church. God will vindicate apostle if he is innocent but please leave northerners out of this

SulemanDEFENDER:
Please click on the Facebook link to join the page. The truth MUST prevail either for Apostle Suleman, Stephanie or other woman/men

Good. Then change the title to "in defence of truth" because sincerely I don't know who is on the Lords side between Suleiman and Stephanie

DirewolfofStark:
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Three common sense questions about Apostle Suleiman’s alleged indiscretion with Stephanie Otobo

1. If indeed Otobo’s affair with Suleiman ended 12 months ago, why wait for 12 good months before going to press with your story? Why did you decide to come forward AT THE EXACT TIME that Suleiman is in the eye of the storm for his comments about Fulani Herdsmen? A typical Olosho would be more likely to blackmail her victim than go to press because Money is what an Olosho wants at the end of the day. The evidence which Otobo has released to the press is inconclusive and unreliable. Am I the only one who finds it odd that the only evidence which could have more or less strengthened Otobo’s story (her pregnancy) was destroyed? With a pregnancy, it would have been possible to carry out a DNA test, and yet Otobo conveniently claims that Suleiman “forced” her to abort the pregnancy. How? By holding a gun to her head? I remain unconvinced by this too convenient story.

2. How could a common prostitute like Otobo be able to afford the legal fees of a top rated Lawyer like Festus Keyamo? I know Festus Keyamo and he doesn’t come cheap. He is one of the most money conscious legal practitioners in the profession. Festus Keyamo does not do pro bono Legal Service. It is evident that Otobo is being funded by someone with a LOT of money, someone who can evidently afford to spend large sums of money on a concerted character assassination plot of epic proportions. I’m sure we would all appreciate it if this person starts acting like a real man and reveals himself instead of hiding behind an Olosho to do his dirty work for him.

3. If Suleiman is really a womaniser, why is Otobo’s story the only one out there? In my experience, chronic womanisers do not just victimise one helpless woman. They usually have a long line of victims. When Bill Cosby was accused by one woman of sexual harassment, many others came forward. When Bill Clinton was accused by Monica Lewinsky of having an affair with her, other women like Jennifer Flowers Kathleen Wiley, Juanita Broaddrick and Paula Jones also stepped forward to accuse him of sexually harassing them. Womanising is a compulsive behavioural disorder. A man who womanises does so serially. If Suleiman was really a womaniser, there ought to have been several stories or rumours of his womanising from even before the time of his alleged affair with Otobo.

To summarise, I’m not arguing that Otobo is a liar and Suleiman is innocent. All I’m asking Nairalanders to do is to use their brains.




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Like you , I have not concluded that she is actually saying the whole truth. But it is improper to think that anyone using his brain must toe your line of thought .

For your first question you would have heard that she said she was stooling blood for 1 year after she was given supposed poisoned juice by him hence it appears she just got the health issue sorted. You should also note that had she not been arrested by a supposed sting operation between him and npf may be things would not have come to public space this fast. If really she almost died then trust me she has little to fear hence the boldness with which she is ditching out her story. I suspect she would have been counselled that her safety henceforth depend on bringing everything as fast as possible to the public space.

On your second question. Keyamo may be expensive but he also has a soft spot for cases with celebrity status like this . Keyamo single handedly took up a case against afokuyomi even fryos case was more for the name and not for money he wanted to get. also be reminded that they are suing for 500m as compensation. With the way this lady is going an out of court settlement with the lady may just be the apostles best bet and that must be done very fast. Else she will hurt his reputation which is all too important for ministry work.

On your third question don't be too quick to see other witnesses. It's early days. There is a lady on NL here with the handle Babytruth who has maintained that she was a victim too. I have tried to pick holes in her story by raising some questions which she has answered hence it has been difficult for me to puncture her core claims.

I pray that if this is all the work of the devil to rubbish him let God fight for him and disgrace his detractors but if he is not of God but an impostor let it be shame upon shame for him in Jesus name

When she was interviewed yesterday about the earlier bossom pictures on snapchat being fake. She said people will have the opportunity to see part of her body when the time comes.

She is only building a case against those who say she was too ugly for someone like an apostle to have anything to do with her. Even those that earlier said she was ugly will be struggling to keep their thoughts pure.

davo90tico:
over cooked rice for hungry Nigerians to eat without understanding
let her breath more lies
she received 8000 euros and still looks so hargad wow am seeing things
GOD BLESS

Hope you are Born Again with a vision for heaven?

I remember listening to one of apostle Suleimans preaching to church leaders on church growth. he said he did a research on church growth and discovered that the number one reason why churches grow is the love the members have for their pastor. I was shocked. But I just took it for granted becuase I can hardly point any man of God who has not made one or two theological statements that I struggle to comprehend . I mean even the pastor of the ministry I attend who I respect greatly.

But this your responses if they are as a result of your love for your pastor then it should be reviewed and polished.

How do people that collect 8000 euros look? Please remember that you are expected to defend the pastor as a christian.

Cheers

komekn:
In the first invited these are not charges and they are allegations, which are not even criminal.

If men were to be charged for promising marriage and changing thier mind then the whole court system would grind to a halt. As cases of failed promises of marriage would be tens of millions.

When did the offer of marriage become a legally binding agreement. Marriage is but not the proposal.

My opinion a load of unnecessary media frenzy, with very little substance.

You must understand how the 'market' will respond to an issue like this and whose nose is likely to be bloodied in the end.

Yes the courts will likely end up throwing out the case that such promise is not binding ,however in trying to prove that there was a promise, Stephanies team would have come out with some revelations that would establish that there was an 'ungodly' relationship in the first place between both Parties. This is just what the public needs to hear to run from the apostle.

obailala:
The real question in this case which begs for answers is, "who is on the Lord's side in this case?"

May you live long.

This is the most important question.

Babytruth:
Pennyways :- if I lied that johnson Suleman drew me close to himself and lured me into sex, let the Almighty God Punish me, if I lied that Suleman and I became lovers and he wanted to marry me , let God punish me,
Like I said our relationship broke because he was reckless and flirtatious, telling me about the A list actresses that want him, and he refused to solve the problem I came with telling me to stay for at Least one year in his church, basically his womanizing caused quarrels that made me leave his church and he threatened my life , I almost died from sudden projections of serpentine movements and bites on my heart( they were invisible but I felt physical pain during their bites, etc and till now the one am nt totally free but he blocked my phone number from accessing him after he wrote messages that I will die, but I told him I won't die, but God saved me till now, though am still going for prayers.

brotherly, I was visiting the headquarters auchi during special church programs and fire night and those were the times he would stick around me, even Lizzy would join him by my side, Lizzy knew that his husband has been seeing many women including me, she only lied all through to cover her husband in the video, this evil duo are doing church business , true xtianity or holiness is not their business and they can careless about your soul but your pocket.

OK. I understand the hq. Part now. But my other question is that this man according to you was in ' love' with you and you 'loved ' him too when the going was good. He did not look evil or devilish tampering with peoples destiny until you broke up. If things went as planned you both would have been married now. You broke up because he was seeing some other lady.

Now that you broke the relationship and things got as bad as you using bad language on him, you say he is evil and tampers with people's destiny. How am I sure it's not your emotional hurt that is dictating how you see him now. Could it also be that you went out of spiritual covering and made it easy for "family forces' to attack?

davo90tico:
bro am not lying if you watched celebrationtv you would understand
you see this kind of news doesn't spread quickly cos it's not the kind news agencies know will drag peeps along so they delay in bringing it or not showing it in the first place don't worry you will see more releases soon that for sure just sit tight but I am not lying it's your choice to wait patiently and see

Ok

davo90tico:
Thank God for people like you bro you are blessed

While I am not siding with the Stephanie lady. It is a shame that you guys want to use a lie to bring out the truth. You opened this thread without link. The lady was released yesterday and shamelessly you are still commenting when it is very clear that you lied.

I am not saying she is saying the whole truth but all these attempts at twisting her words only make her win some more sympathy from neutrals. Be wise