₦airaland Forum

udofia234:
Thanks, but you fail to understand how I feel

You seem to be failing to understand that most of us don't care how you feel!

anonimi:
Meanwhile, is it not hypocrisy for tribalistic Nigerians to talk about racist whites?

It would be. Especially if those sort of people do not understand that tribalism and racism are about the same bigoted discrimination against others.

Thankfully, we are not all tribalistic or and racist.

udofia234:
Back to my wish......


I told her I wanted to have sex with her as a goodbye and we can now part for ever .......

I think you are 9 years old and need to grow up some.

A mature you would understand how much you are messing up already and go get better priorities.

Counterigbolies:
I will never replace a failure with a failure because of my children

But you are prepared to keep the current failure despite your children?

For your information, I Obidiently do not agree that Tinubu has failed. He's done some good at least.

Vote for Obi!

Counterigbolies:
Good evening everyone

I notice one thing about all these so called obedient through online and offline discussion, the first thing they will make you understand is that tinubu is bad no matter what......

First, we Obidients are not average!

Tinubu done good by eliminating fuel subsidy, and removing currency subsidy, and removing tax subsidy. I just want him now to remove wage subsidy by eliminating NYSC or reforming it so employers can't use it as a wage reduction strategy, then I can appoint him as God.

Tinubu is from my state, but I just don't want a continuation of APC because I like change. And I'm not pleased he won by less than 10 million votes while the majority of Nigerians sat on their lazy asses and refused to vote and are now wailing that Tinubu who won is making their lifes hell. And unfortunately, Atiku does not appeal to me.

So vote for my Obi, and get wisesense so you don't post the unthinking overgeneralised nonsense you posted here!

Kimi is doing amazing stuff!

truthera:
Nigeria is an unsustainable mess that should not be allowed to continue.....

So, you want to destroy Nigeria because you don't want it to continue?

You must be very powerful indeed, not!

bemeruca:
That is not a young nation growing. That is incompetence.

Due to ignorance, right?

Ignorance of those who put those ignorant people in charge, to start with.

A Reverend Mrs once told me a story.

She was a nurse, and took time off to attend an event at her daughter's school. But on getting there was told the event was being held elsewhere. They got back in the car, and out of frustration for missing work, she slapped her daughter and burst her lip with her ring. "And if you tell anyone I did that, I will beat you more when we get home", she told her daughter.

Years later, long after her daughter was grown up, she looked at her daughter and saw the scar she'd left. She told me she called her daughter and touched her scar and reminded her how she got it. "I am very sorry", she said.

She told me their relationship changed for the better that day, and she wished her husband, her daughter's father, could apologise too for whatever he did. But he never would, and he and his five children have a frothy relationship still.

That's more votes than he got at the last election!

benalvino3:
So Nigeria did not simply fail because colonialism left some systems or the systems were to benefit the colonisers.

I don't know how many times I need to repeat to you that Nigeria failed because of ignorance, and not because of colonialism.

For your information, I took books from the supposed colonisers to colonise my own people. And no, that is not me in the picture as I was the camera person.

bemeruca:
You and I have discussed this many times. You critique it, you talk about the suffering and selfish nature of it, that's criticism.

You are not stupid enough to say nothing good came out of it, even the language (English) that you speak.

Listen to yourself. In one sense you claim I am "not stupid enough to say nothing good came out of it", and in the other you claim I "talk about the suffering and selfish nature of it" like both can not be true, though I do not quite know what suffering, apart from slavery, you might be refering to.

The colonisers did not colonise us for our own benefit but for theirs, but I could argue we might still be killing twins or all be Muslims, since Muslims colonised us first.

Perhaps post links to where "You and I have discussed this many times" so you can be seen not to be lying.

No one is claiming decay was inevitable, but "better planning, more pumping stations, more reservoirs, more pipes, and proper maintenance and expanding public services" is almost "magic", which we Nigerians have still not learnt. And not learning does make decay inevitable.

And the reason we have not learnt has nothing to do with colonialism. Though I'd argue that colonialism misdirected us along the unscientific path we ourselves were already travelling along and have still not departed from. Still, we are responsible for our not learning, and not colonialism.

I'm currently in discussion with a person who claims people used to travel by egbe, which is basically teleporting, when he was young, and he wants to return to the times of his forefathers. He came to UK in the 60s. Guess how.

benalvino3:
Of course, they did not colonize us for our benefit, but we benefited anyway. You are benefiting from the language you are speaking as well.

That is supposed to be a checkpoint, not an excuse.

Nobody is saying Nigeria had perfect public systems everywhere after independence. The point is that the systems that existed were supposed to be maintained, improved, and scaled. If third-floor water pressure dropped because more people were connected, the solution was not for the entire water system to decay, but rather better planning, more pumping stations, more reservoirs, more pipes, and proper maintenance. You have lived in the UK for decades, so you know very well that expanding public services is not magic. It requires planning, investment, maintenance, accountability, and competent leadership. So why are you making excuses for failure?

Notice I highlighted accountability, why?

Because without it, even foreign investors will not provide better services; instead, they will milk the people. MTN and Econet are good examples. My elder brother's Nigerian line was bought for 50K naira back in the year 2000. That was a huge sum of money. Early adopters, I guess. But the fact that he would spend an hour or more trying to call someone is where the issue is. MTN was not scaling its network to accommodate the growing number of users. They were not getting sanctioned for the bad services they were providing to customers. But I digress.

Even in places where population density was low, nobody is saying every remote bush should have had running water in 1965. But what happened to the places that already had water, electricity, schools, hospitals, and functioning administration? Why did many of those systems regress or collapse completely? As I said, what they left for us was/is supposed to be a checkpoint: improve and maintain the standards.

Growing up in Port Harcourt, my grandfather had two large industrial generators in a generator house. They were noisy, heavy-duty machines, but we barely used them for months sometimes because electricity was steady. At night, we might run them for only about 10 minutes. I am sure we were one of the few houses on the street with generators. I don't know any other compound in my street that uses generators. In my granddad's compound, none of the tenants have it. So it powers my Grandfathers family house and my dad's house in the compound.

Gradually, we started using them more and more. Power is less reliable. When the generators got bad, they were difficult to repair because they were old tech. At that time, the generator business was not even a thing as it is today. By the time generators became a thing and repairers became common, our own generators were already outdated.

That is the story of Nigeria: regression, poor maintenance, and failure to scale.

So Nigeria did not simply fail because colonialism left some systems or the systems were to benefit the colonisers. Nigeria failed because the post-independence leadership class failed to maintain what existed, failed to expand it properly, and failed to build institutions that could survive corruption and incompetence.

So stop pretending decay was inevitable. Limited infrastructure is not the same thing as total collapse. Serious countries take what exists, improve it, and expand it. Failed countries make excuses while everything falls apart. So you are trying to excuse your way out of this by falling back on colonialism. The same "you" wants to talk about ignorance and education.
This is the lack of self-awareness I was talking about.

bemeruca:
Budaatum, who is a champion in criticising colonialism, recognized its benefits.

Why must you always lie, ben?

Where did buda "champion in criticising colonialism", which buda knows was inevitable? Or do you not know that Britain was colonised by Rome?

So you know, the smarter would always colonise the less smart. And it is the less smart's fault for being less smart. Also, it is stupid to colonise the colonisers in the language of the coloniser. And for your information, I'd be dead if I hadn't run from my colonised home to my colonisers home.

Here is a thread about colonialism. Read it and know buda's view instead of making up lies to believe!

bemeruca:
I know what you are talking about. You are just oversimplifying things.

If someone publicly talks about corruption, the damage corruption does.

Rally against thieves, says all the right things about accountability, sees the benefit of stopping corruption but when he enters office, he uses that same office to steal - that's Nigeria's situation.

Will you call that Ignorance?

You are acting as if once people use their minds, or let to use it, a magically spell has been introduced, they will automatically become honest. We as humans do not work like that.

People can know the right thing and still do the wrong thing. People can understand morality and still choose evil. People can understand consequences for society and still act for themselves.

Yes, I would call that ignorance, and deceitfulness for their own selfish benefit. Those who are not ignorant are not selfish, and they know their actions have negative consequences for themselves. Unfortunately, we Nigerians have not yet learned to ensure those consequences are inevitable, so dishonesty pays some.

Education, as in, proper beneficial mind using education, will enable us to put measures in so the right behaviour is rewarded and the wrong behaviour is paid for.

Do note that you are talking about the education of an individual, while I am talking about our collective ignorance. Currently, if I ignorantly steal all Nigeria's money and take it to my Orolu Kingdom, my own ignorant people would likely make me king. If we were knowledgeable they'd stone me.

bemeruca:
You have no clue what you are talking about. This is you oversimplifying things.

You obviously have no clue what I am talking about, and nor do I expect you to.

I feel for all those Indians and Chinese and etc who never read the gospel because they have their own gospels.

According to you, they'll be like non-Muslims being tried under Sharia law, lol, which I bet you'd claim is unjust.

Jesus did warn that those who read only one book shall die of their ignorance, and the other holy book alluded to it too. Unfortunately, we heed them not.

Where can one study this in Nigeria?

Or rather, can one study this in Nigeria?

DeepSight:
On a practical note, if anyone asks me, I will say the key to the future is aggressive industrialization.

And when I read this, I hear it to mean scientific education from birth. And in that scientific education, I would include the scientific understanding of non-science subjects like history, and even very unscientific religion. And by scientific I mean, use of the senses, as opposed to filling brains with mere facts.

If the education of Nigerians were to include just the scientific understanding of our holy books, we too will stop being muddy ignorant enslaved Adams (like say the British once used to be), and will become enlightened Images that rule and subdue and multiply and be blessed (like the British eventually became).

bemeruca:
How does it explain Nigeria's situation?

Ignorance, explains Nigeria's situation. And our education system is based on that ignorance.

It is not known by most that when the British were entering ships to come and enslave us, they themselves were abandoning the God belief they gave to us.

Most think Henry was kicking the Catholic Church out of Britain because of where he wanted to put his pecker, while the truth is he wanted to stop sending British money to Rome, and is in fact similar to when the Sons of Liberty decided to host a Tea Party in Boston on December 16, 1773.

bemeruca:
Trump supporters are not the entire country. You have the independent voters, who are a huge voting bloc, and the Democrats. So you cannot use this to assess his approval ratings.

What we can say is that his infuence cannot be matched. Tucker, Candace and all those Social media influencers that are high of their own supply are irrelevant.

What we can say is that his influence cannot be matched in the maga circle.

We'd see about the "entire country" in November.

bemeruca:
When people distort what others say to make their argument seem reasonable, that's itself insanity.

Says the expert in distortion. But its being pointed out that you might be resetting, so there's hope for a cure.

bemeruca:
That education can exist and people still choose corruption?
That educated people can still be greedy?
That educated people can still be tribalistic, racist, selfish, or dishonest?

That is not scientifically impossible. That is being human.

Actually, it is being ignorant and uneducated. But I guess by "educated" you mean formal education, and not the sort of education that promotes mind use.

People who are educated to use their minds would see more benefit for themselves and society in not being corrupt, greedy, tribalistic, racist, selfish, or dishonest, for those are things the ignorant do, "educated" or not.

IjeBos:
I am so lost at to what is going in the US and what the US is doing.
What legal framework are we using to invade the countries?

He said the US will drive out "foreign encroachment".
Huh?
He must have meant "[other] foreign encroachment".

And so that he can be the only cockroach.

bemeruca:
My point is still that education matters, history matters, racism matters, colonialism matters, institutions matter.

But internal choices also matter. Leadership matters. Culture matters. Accountability matters. Family structure matters. Greed and selfishness matter.

You are not going to understand or believe how much hope I have in you.

I am just waiting for the day you understand that internal choices are informed through good education that does not just fill individuals with facts, but teaches them how to use their minds.

cococandy:
You haven’t said a bad thing in this write up. I’ll give you that.


But it seems quite hypocritical given you’re rooting for the people who are making the terrible choices you speak of.

And you yourself can’t brag that you do the right thing when personal interest is at stake. That’s why it’s difficult to take the moral grandstanding you guys perform against African Americans seriously.

Unfortunately, he is conflating the education of an individual with the collective education of the whole. And he thinks having degrees means a person is educated.

He says Emefiele is educated, but it is rather obvious that Emefiele is very ignorant indeed. An educated person would know that his reputation is more valuable than gold.

dominique:
It's so baffling how nobody sees nothing wrong with a man leaving his house dirty. He must have kept the environment dirty in expectation that his girlfriend is coming to clean it up. Total pig! If anybody dodged a bullet, it's the lady. Women! Add value to yourselves so men won't see you as maids to clean up their mess.

I was waiting for this, though this girl too seems cheap.

usebog:
I don't like spirituality at all.

What exactly does spirituality mean to you?

usebog:
I've been ignoring the voices thinking it is my own brain playing tricks on me but it is not.

It is your brain making your mind communicate with you, and it shouldn't be ignored.

In fact, you should get a notebook and write down everything you hear the voices say.

When we read that the likes of Eve was spoken to by a serpent, and that prophet who was spoken to by a donkey, and Jesus being tempted by a satan on a mountain, and Mohammed being delivered the Quran by an angel Gabriel etc, we are being informed of experiences like yours.

LordReed:
Unfortunately, it is linked to mental illness and all the stigma that comes with it.

And unfortunately, that link is not always right, and is often the mind trying to communicate with the person, but the person often can not decipher what the mind is saying because they can't understand their mind.

usebog, what are you hearing the voices say?

LordReed:
Bro read what I wrote abeg.

It's not about him reading what you wrote, my Lord. He is simply misrepresenting what he read.

raumdeuter:
Families staying together statistically is a good thing and brings better outcomes

Black Families used to stay together until the govt incentivized breakup of the family

If your own thought is to advocate for slavery, then good for you, this is not the first time you will be advocating for irrational and weird things

You've been called dishonest enough times already, so I am not surprised in the least that you'd project your opinion on to others.