StillDtruth:


Yet you said "spirit dont exist".

So, why do.you say they do not exist, since you know only fools rely on their naked eyes alone?

I did ask you with what eyes you see this so called spirit you claim exists, but as usual you refused to answer, so I'll ask you again.

What is your evidence for the existence of spirits?

And no, you do not need to rely only on what you see with your naked eyes.

In fact, step back a bit and start by explaining what spirit is, if you would please.

helinues:


The Obidients as a group have vowed not to see the progress and development of Nigeria ever since their principal loss in a contested election.

I am Obidient. I do obviously read. And I never "vowed not to see the progress and development of Nigeria", because that would be as stupid as vowing not to see my own progress, or yours for that matter, which I have no reason to do because your lack of progress would hold me back. So I must ask if you have vowed to lie for some reason, or you just can't accept that some see things different to how you do.

As a wise person once sang, When the rain of no progress falls, it won't fall on only one man's housetop, remember that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZp-LLfDSc4?si=y5jos7BFzvEHnnTs

StillDtruth:


Yet you refuse to answer the question
"Do you confess that you see bluetooths and wirelesses and voices with your naked eyes?"

Only fools relies on their naked eyes alone. Some get glasses so they can see better.

TenQ:

I don't need your attention!

If you can think, figure out my message

You message does not make any sense and is false.

Softwares in an AI machine is physical and it does exist. Spirits, however, don't exist.

ijebosb:


The "when they go low, you go high" thing didn't really work out, esp when you were dealing with shameless people. And I don't mind giving my time once in a while to whack a MAGA.

Yes indeed "when they go low, you go high" did work. That's why dump lost and Biden has lived in the White House the last 4 years. But of course it's your time, so please don't you mind that buda.

The oil importers perhaps sent them to destabilise local production, which just shows what Dangote is up against.

Perhaps learn from Obrigardo who doesn't bother giving them free education but just accepts they are the stupid magas they are and repeatedly rubs their faces in their maga ignorance.

Hopefully they'd learn when Biden trumps them again, though I wouldn't hold my breathe.

TenQ:

The wisdom of Atheists ....

You are going to have to try to reason better to get my attention Tenq.

ijebosb:

This is trite. Who says Nigerians experiences are all similar? But most if not all Nigerians understand what it means when someone yells Nepa. There are shared understandings born from living somewhere.

The complete experience of Nigeria is not Nepa. And while some are experiencing Nepa in Nigeria, some Nigerians are experiencing uninterrupted electricity and therefore have different understanding of Nepa.

The transformer in front of my house in Obanikoro in the 70s would blow and we would be Nepad for 6 or more weeks, yet I still meet people who lived on the Island telling me they never had power cuts at all. Personally, I think they had auto-kick-in generators that we never had, but hey.

ijebosb:

Am I conversing or bullying them back?
I'm online when I'm at my desk working(down time) or getting things done. Don't log into Nairaland on my phone or when I travel. My time offline is valuable. Where would I even meet ignorant people? Not in my circle.

I don't think you are conversing with them, and I don't see you stooping to the depths they stoop to to bully you if you asked me, but if your time is as valuable as you claim, I think they'd get much less of it because they really are not worth the time you give them, I'd think.

And at this point, I'm going to have to ask you to forgive me if I discontinue this conversation, because I need to now divert the use of my time to more valuable things than use it conversing about some irrelevant stupid ignorant maga idiots who lack the ability to reason or converse civilly.

ijebosb:


Ex. Driving in Lagos. I used to drive in Lagos like I would drive in the US. I would trafficate and wait for someone to give me space to enter. It rarely happened. Finally, my g/f would laugh and told me to let her drive. But she was right, in order to get anywhere driving I had to be more aggressive. If I didn't acclimate to that, I couldn't drive. Sometimes, you have to acclimate to the environment you're in or leave the environment.



This is a lot.

I've spent considerable time in the Uk when me ex was there for for grad school. Stayed near Leicester Sq.
You can't possibly believe that racists are only racist to people who don't hold themselves a certain way. Sounds too much like blaming racism on the people who are bearing the brunt of that racism.

And are you trying to argue that you can truly know a culture if you haven't experienced it first hand? It's a very Western view that discounts culture.

Yes, Ijebos, I do not only believe that "racists are only racist to people who don't hold themselves a certain way", I know from my vast experience that "racists are only racist to people who don't hold themselves a certain way". But I do not expect you to take my word for it since you can't possibly know how and where I hold myself such that racists move along swiftly. It's after all not like you have lived in my shoes.

And note how you've classified with "truly know", as opposed to know. I have never been to the USA, but I don't think even you would claim I know nothing about American culture, though I bet you'd argue the "truly" bit. But if you've concluded I can't truly know the American culture, why, pray tell, would you who truly knows American culture be spending so much time trying to educate an ignorant me who thinks I do know and wouldn't accept what you say?

Isn't that similar to repeatedly arguing about calculus with a person who hasn't learnt to count 123 but thinks she does? And what would that say about you who truly knows calculus? (Do note that I am guilty of this too.)

Regardless of you living in America, liberal left wing you would still not have the same opinion as a maga American. And you unfortunately can't claim the difference in what you both truly claim to know is because they don't live in the America you live in.

Just imagine dump claiming Biden does not truly know American culture or vice versa, and you might see the fallacy of that stance.

It's what democracy was designed to resolve by the way. It helps decide which truly known culture gets to rule every 4 years, instead of a fallacious claim to authority of truly knowing.

ijebosb:


You are right. I came to this thread to talk to Nigerians who had similar experiences. So, Nigerians who both understood Nigeria and the US. Unfortunately that's not what I found. There are distinct differences between Nigeria and the US culturally and if you haven't been/lived there you probably wouldn't understand. And if one can't acknowledge that, they are letting their pride and ego speak making it even harder to have a discussion and understand the differences.

You are right about ignorant people. But I usually don't hang around ignorant people.

I think you fail to realise that even Nigerians in Nigeria don't have similar experiences, or have similar understanding of their experiences.

And I am afraid that the evidence I see does not show that you "usually don't hang around ignorant people", considering the amount of time you spend conversing with ignorant people here.

ijebosb:

And you really can't know a place until you live there.

If you did believe the above by the way, then the logical conclusion is to not discuss a place with those you've assumed "can't know a place" they've never lived and are ignorant about the place they haven't visited, unless they are paying you to educate them about the place they have not visited, which does not seem to be the case here since they refuse to learn from you who has visited or lived in the place.

From my experience, people can live in a place and be completely ignorant about the place, and some can know a lot about places they've never visited. You'd be amazed how many people visit or live in UK and don't understand how simple road markings can have evolved from the 10 Commandments.

ijebosb:

Told him to cut it out. A month later he found himself doing the same thing.

I guess that's the problem, and what you do here too. Some stupid brainless idiots troll on a Nigerian forum so you join in trolling with them.

I'm not like that myself. I don't, because everyone around me decides to eat poo, join in and eat poo with them.

ijebosb:

And you really can't know a place until you live there. Whenever I travel, the experience on the ground always changes my view of it. And that's just a brief trip. The same is even in Western countries. I didn't realize how much racism was in the UK, until I had a bad experience there on a trip.

I live in UK, and can say that I have barely experienced racism in UK, and by your own admission of not actually living here and only "just a brief trip", I guess I can say you don't know what you talking about. But that would be rather silly of me since despite me living here and not experiencing racism, that does not mean others haven't.

You might not know this, but how one is treated largely depends on oneself. I hold myself in such a way that being racist to is not others preferred treatment of me, just as grabbing my bag or trolling me fails too.

I can't possibly have decided some are stupid idiots and then spend my time being stupid idiots with them. That's just way too unhavard for me and my liking, and a complete waste of my time and effort and learning.

Tinubu is going to give new brains to our Nigerian Police?

Have you reported this to the bank regulators and the police?

ijebosb:

I think you've lived in the West too long. I have that mentality until I enter Nigeria and until the 4th or 5th person tries to grab my bags, then I have to change up. Sometimes, Nigerians only hear when they are embarrassed. Sux to say that.

You think I "Lived in the West too long", like I don't go to Nigeria? Sorry, but that statement is as lame as it being claimed I don't know anything about America because I've never been there.

For your information, and so you don't just rely on your thinking, my last time in Nigeria was January 2014-April 2016, during which I wasn't just visiting, but worked there. And no one tried to grab anything of mine, because I don't put myself in situations where bag grabbing is possible, same as I don't let stupid idiots grab my time on here.

Those whom I let around me know not to try such nonsense with me for starts, and I don't walk the Nigerian streets with a "grab my bag" label on my forehead.

It's a choice, you see. I can sit with bag grabbers and moan about my bag being grabbed, or move myself so I'm amongst people who regard and respect me enough not to try grabbing my bag. I also don't have to wait "until the 4th or 5th person tries to grab my bags". Once I've "embarrassed" and told the first person not to grab my bag, they'd tell those who follow that my bag is not grabbable.

One can let others dictate the situations one finds oneself in and whom one gives one's bag and time to, is the point, as opposed to being at the whim of their grabbing and then repeatedly moaning about one's bag and time being grabbed. Besides, it would be rather odd and silly of me to claim "my body my choice", if my bag and time were subject to the grabbing of others, I'd think.

Veecruz:


You prove your that both you and your reasons are surfacedly shallow by the emptiness of your comment

Thankfully, Nairaland is full of people who can see the available evidence and reason for themselves.

ijebosb:


100% do. But it requires a collective effort.
Look at what Raum is doing. Because of his insecurity about losing an argument he enables a known degenerate.

If you haven't figured, I don't take this thread seriously anymore. The conversation level is sophomoric to childish. The inability to even control someone trying to hack nairalanders leaves this place unsafe.
If I want to have a proper discussion about this stuff I'll go on AnandTech forums.

I think that if one seriously believes that "By communicating with degenerates it denigrates the thread", one wouldn't communicate with degenerates unless one wants to degenerate the thread.

I also think that communicating with degenerates might infect one with degeneracy, but what does buda know. They did go silent during your recent break though, and tried trolling me instead, but failed because I refuse to feed trolls and stupid idiots with my very precious time, which I guess is not easy effort for a collective.

ijebosb:

By communicating with degenerates it denigrates the thread.

Do you seriously believe this?

raumdeuter:


Why is buuda .......

If you are going to refer to buda please do it properly!

jazzman7711:

That’s where heaven, the afterlife, God, and all the people we consider to be ‘dead’, reside, living the REAL life.

And fairies, and gnomes, and wizards, and Oz, and talking donkeys and flying tortoises too.

Oh look. There's even a flying teapot harassing the spaghetti monster behind the moon where we can't see it with naked eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBNdbmOzr5k?si=uu4tGF_Eyf6pcUde

Palin's new series will see him visit Nigeria, where he will explore the history and culture of the country, and its growing impact as a world leader. The documentary will see him visit the Islamic North and go on a road trip across the country with an armed guard.

Speaking about the programme, Palin shared: "Nigeria has the biggest economy, and the biggest population in Africa. The potential of the country is enormous, but so are its problems. Visiting the country for the first time, I saw these problems at first hand, but also caught a whiff of the excitement and energy of the place.

"Sometimes inspiring, sometimes a perplexing challenge, my journey through this rich, raucous mix of a country hardly gave me time to draw breath. I came home exhausted but exhilarated. And, as in the best of journeys, feeling I know a lot more about the world."

Michael Palin in Nigeria airs on Channel 5 at 9pm on Tuesday, 16 April.

Veecruz:


This is a vey stupid question....

Below is the only answer you deserve.

KnownUnknown:

You’re literally too stupid for me to continue any interaction with you.

Veecruz:


Tell your evil brother that who says that spirit does not exist because he does not see it with his naked eyes which is why since Sunday till today he has ran away from answering the question.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever for the existence of spirits like is had for "bluetooths and wirelesses and voices"?

Stupid idiot.

Perhaps Seun should consider charging new users to post on Nairaland too, though I'm certain he'd be way too smart than to do what would reduce his site's usage.

Why are you a stupid idiot?

Anyone remember Parler, the twexit that allowed freedom of speech?

Seems like that "freedom" killed it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parler

bobestman:

Hey kid, I thought by now you must have gone through all your posts and topics and see the many lies, errors and devil's fruits you have and then repent or repaint yourself to a better person but you said No. You keep going everywhere teaching errors. Even a kid could go through your write ups and spot all the lies with ease. But you choosed to insult ppl and be calling them devils when you are the one full of cow poops and the devil's traits (lies, twisting, cursing, insults, wishing ppl death for merry disagreement). You want to bring me back into this argument? I don't waste time with kids who will do wrong and still be cursing ppl. Your negative energy and lies will keep dragging you down untill you learn. Go and change your life kid. Go and learn!

I was about to ask how old he is, and kid does sum him up.

If I'd known from the start that Veecruz was the same dtruthspeaker who always lies, I likely wouldn't have bothered.

Veecruz:


Off point/Fallacy of Reversal of burden of proof shows how stupid you are in not being able to attend to the question "Do you confess that you see bluetooths and wirelesses and voices with your naked eyes? " in front of you.

Why must I only look with naked eyes when there are lots of technologies that can clothe my naked eyes so I can see better?

Would it be wise to conclude that Neptune does not exist because I can't see Neptune with my naked eyes?

And finally, and just to further confuse your inability to reason. With what eyes do you see the spirit world you claim you see?

Veecruz:



And if you were not a Liartum you would have seen that "see" to all, is the use of our naked eyes when talking about invisibility and physicality. SO YOU FAIL, LIKE YOU ALWAYS FAIL IN EVERYTHING, SINCE YOU ARE FAILURE, IN ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

SO LIE AGAIN, LIARTUM, THE DEVIL.ATUM!

You'd likely argue that you can't see the oxygen you breath too, which just shows how dumb you are.

Obrigardo:
Criminal trump, the true Criminal

basilico loco, you excited as your criminal overlord's criminal trial is a go

Who needs polls when there's a ticker showing how fast he fails and falls.