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PoliticsRe: Orji Kalu Arrested by BUSHFELLOW(m): 8:52pm On Jul 11, 2007
Until you find it on channels or stv more reliable ait news then it is not true yet.
RomanceRe: If Ur Girl Walks Up To U Now And Tells U She Is Pregnant by BUSHFELLOW(m): 8:20am On Jul 11, 2007
hhm how come my condom tear abi wetin. GUYS PLAY SAFE PLEASE
RomanceRe: thank u all for your advices by BUSHFELLOW(m): 8:17am On Jul 11, 2007
DO you need the third man if you do please iam available i Bleep better than them, because that is what you are to them a intimacy gadget
RomanceRe: Long Distance Relationships: How To Keep The Love Alive by BUSHFELLOW(m): 8:14am On Jul 11, 2007
What is your point are you the one in this long distance relationship if you are then come i will give you true love believe me.
PoliticsRe: Two Lies As Biafra Turns 40 9/7/2007 by BUSHFELLOW(op): 7:24pm On Jul 10, 2007
Copied from yahoo groups you know cant add the link that is why i just copied it and pasted it there
PoliticsRe: The List Of Arrested Corrupt Governors (after May 29th) by BUSHFELLOW(m): 7:23pm On Jul 10, 2007
thank you
TravelRe: Hurray: Benin To Lagos Is Now 7 Hours! by BUSHFELLOW(op): 7:20pm On Jul 10, 2007
The road is now a big problem do we have hope that that road will be taken care of soon. it is becoming on bearable for how long will that road remain like that
PoliticsRe: Do You Know? by BUSHFELLOW(m): 5:49pm On Jul 10, 2007
do you know that the poster of the thread believes that Obj is the president of United State
Do you know that if you do not mind what you post Seun might delete you from Naira land
Do you know that the poster of this thread just came be from yaba left
PoliticsRe: Do Nigerians Abroad Have A Role To Play In 2007 ? by BUSHFELLOW(m): 5:35pm On Jul 10, 2007
the person that started this thread should come home and start it. believe me if he acts well others will follow all what the people abroad need is a leader who will lead so Odeku lead the team.
PoliticsRe: Two Months On, Yar Adua Is Confused, Yet To Make A Single Move by BUSHFELLOW(m): 5:14pm On Jul 10, 2007
Angel oya begin the vote na wa for you ho. you know hear say na baba dey head the comity when go dey decide the bill to pass and deliberate on for pdp legislators.
PoliticsRe: Two Lies As Biafra Turns 40 9/7/2007 by BUSHFELLOW(op): 4:58pm On Jul 10, 2007
If the book was not writen by a Nigerian who was in the war front like war heroes of those time then it is not a must read. Still how do i get a copy i will like to digest it please help me out
PoliticsRe: The List Of Arrested Corrupt Governors (after May 29th) by BUSHFELLOW(m): 4:48pm On Jul 10, 2007
Those govs are going to be arrested, just wait and see
Lets wait and see and angel please let us stick to the topic please. thank you.
PoliticsTwo Lies As Biafra Turns 40 9/7/2007 by BUSHFELLOW(op): 2:38pm On Jul 10, 2007
Two lies as Biafra turns 40 9/7/2007

BY SAM OMATSEYE

NATION

For those of us who were little in the early days of Biafra, the world suddenly robbed us of our innocence. Gunshots replaced a mother's soft lullaby at night, guns displaced toys, bloodshed spilled instead of a donut's sweet jelly. We wondered why people ran like clueless hens, scampering under cover while booms sounded from above. The plane should have been a mere contraption to toy with, but it scared everybody. So we too ran, sometimes too slow to catch up and sometimes some of us died and disappeared. Some of us died because we were unlucky to be cradled by a mother or father or even sympathetic stranger who ran into a rat-at-at of bullets or the poisonous shrapnel of bombs.
For those of us who were mature, we fought, unleashing bullets either on the side of Biafra or on the other side, skulking the enemy, afraid now, bold now. Or we were policy makers and strategists, or were just plain folk caught in the ominous politics of our leaders.

What of those who were not born, but heard of the woes of those years spun by parents. What of those like the new literary sensation, Ngozi Adichie, who had to suspend time and relive those moments as she did in her award-winning novel, Half of a yellow sun? People of her generation have to rely on the imagination, which is all they have. But it is sometimes eminently potent as she has demonstrated. Einstein said, "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

Forty years on, all three sets of people still focus on that big stain on our history, a period of pride and prejudice, intrigues and
turmoil, love and hate, fear and daredevilry, champagne and blood.

Yet, we cannot let that period go without a reflection on what went wrong and how they impact on today's Nigeria, especially the meaning
of federalism, the ethnic question, what with the remorseless rumbles in the Niger Delta. What focused my mind was the claim by
the Biafran leader, Odumegwu Ojukwu, whose views continue to remain dim. Hear him on the anniversary of that war:

"When you have death knocking at your door, you have only two alternatives, either you allow your head to be chopped off or you fight back. I am happy, proud of the fact that we (the Igbo) chose to fight back. That is what we did for as long as we could."

From Ojukwu's assertion, there is a presumption of Igbo innocence in that dark and fratricidal drama. In the same breath, other narratives tend to play up Hausa-Fulani heroism. All the other ethnic groups were just there for the ride. War and innocence are two alien ideas, although sometimes one thrives on the other. That was the point the Ikemba wanted to make. But I am not buying. There is no such thing as an inevitable war. Historians know this.

By Ojukwu's assertion, the Igbo woke up one morning, and the pogrom raged into being. Igbos fell to slaughter in the thousands everywhere, especially in the north. Historians know that the immediate cause of the war was the tendentious nature of the coup led by Nzeogwu that preserved Igbo leaders while northern and southwest leaders fell. Even after that, Gen. Ironsi who was never touched formed a unitary system, especially in the civil service resented for being under Igbo control.

This stirred more discontent, as the feeling was rife among many other ethnic groups that the Igbo saw this as an opportunity to dominate the country for good. That was the reason for the pogrom, which also led to the now familiar series of negotiations that precipitated the war. Ojukwu led his people to a failed and meaningless war when eminent Nigerians wanted a cessation of hostilities and reconciliation. Ojukwu saw his time. He wanted to lead a nation. He envied Gowon's position. That's the truth. He conflated his ambition with that of the Igbo people. The tragedy was that the Igbo people let him have his way.

The war was preventable. We deny this truth only if we want to be self-serving. The reaction to the fear of Igbo domination was puerile. It could have been addressed in other ways than the resort to the bloodshed that turned innocent Igbo citizens into carrion flesh. The killings exposed a deep resentment, especially among the Hausa-Fulani part of the country. They too sought the same kind of
dominance.

Even the execution of the war exposed Ojukwu and his Biafran forces. If all he wanted was to excise his people away from the persecuting
neighbours of Nigeria, why did he plot his way into Midwest, conniving with all the senior officers who were of the Igbo stock. When in the Midwest, they treated the locals like an underclass -rape, looting and rapine became the hallmark. The Midwesterners saw them as an army of occupation, hence an underground resistance reminiscent of the French example during the Second World War.

A plot to railroad its way into the southwest was foiled by Banjo's cold feet and federal troops on the rebound. So the expired warlord
should be careful about painting the innocence of Biafra. He will do well to snuggle with Bianca. Some historians have asserted that Ironsi's declaration of a unitary system was not an act of bigotry but naivety. He wanted to unify the country, they claim. That was a
naïve step taken too far. It cost us peace and many innocent lives.

The story of Hausa-Fulani heroism is often overplayed. Some of the great war heroes of the battle were not from the north. In fact, the
idea that isolated and flushed out Biafra, as noted in a coming book, came from Daniel Omoigui, a helmsman in the Dapartment of
Federal Survey. That was the idea that led to the brave steps of such soldiers of Murtala Muhammed and Benjamen Adekunle, none of
them Hausa-Fulani. Olusegun Obasanjo stepped in as always to receive the flag of surrender as he has always reaped where he did not sow.
This is not to discount the roles of such soldiers as Buhari, Shuwa, etc,. We should realize this was a collective victory. The Western
narrative of the Second World War often paints the colour of an American victory over Germany as though the Soviet Union, which took
charge of the eastern battlefront with huge casualties and high- level soldiery did not matter. But for today, we can see the
reverberations of the Civil War. In the Owu chief's years as president, it is said that the nation did not focus on ethnic
loyalties and chauvinism. This may be true. But the prejudice was merely repressed, not stamped out. The reason is that the historic
forces that created such loyalties, like even distribution of resources, the handling of infrastructure and poverty remained. The
Owu chief supplanted the idol of the tribe with the cult of Babaism, which is now gradually fizzling out.

The Arewa meeting recently served notice that the north is on the rebound to reclaim their position of old at the top of Nigerian politics. Part of it is against the brutal presence of the Owu chief in the thick of Nigerian politics, especially in the National Assembly polls, his roles in ousting Anenih and taking charge of the PDP as well as doctoring the ministers' list.

The northern rebirth may give birth to its counterweights in the southwest with Yoruba and the southeast with the Igbo, those agitations are resound everywhere. But this may not take the power of old when Awo took the west, Zik the east and Ahmadu Bello took the north. So, we shall see how far this Arewa resurgence will go with the present sultan at the head.

But this move, I think, will make the so-called Kaduna mafia happy if it pulls off its sole achievement to ease out the Owu chief from
meddling in Abuja.

So, at 40, a grown adult, Biafra is with us, if in a different guise.
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To me i am still searching for what to call Ojukwu but i believe Igbos marginalization today is caused by their greedy Ohaneze and leaders of taught from that region just like the Niger Delta problem lies on their leaders past and present. the war ojukwu called fro was for his personal intrest and not that of the igbo region.
PoliticsRe: The List Of Arrested Corrupt Governors (after May 29th) by BUSHFELLOW(m): 12:54pm On Jul 10, 2007
you all should go ahead and dream not even one soul will be arrested i promise you that. at least fayose can come out from hiding na shey bi so who do you want to arrest tell me
PoliticsRe: Behold The Most Powerful Man Of Africa by BUSHFELLOW(m): 11:40am On Jul 10, 2007
and what is that
PoliticsRe: Ibb's Hidden Treasure by BUSHFELLOW(m): 4:11pm On Jul 05, 2007
mamajama is this a way to get back at bbgi guy relax no one in this nation as for now can arrest the man call IBB not EVEN YOUR MENTOR THE IMMEDIATE PAST IG CAN ORDER FOR HIS ARREST IF HE CAN WHY DIDNT HE DO IT AT least you have the phone numbers of all the police comisioners call them to go and arrest him now or are they also afraid of him i think he is no longer in government now call your father EHINDERO to be the hero of the day call him to arrest ibb.

look no matter how hard you try as long as it is still in this present day generation that man will remain an untouchable.
PoliticsRe: Ministerial List by BUSHFELLOW(m): 4:00pm On Jul 05, 2007
forget the administration let move on with our lives nothing good will come out finito
PoliticsRe: Ekene Dili Chukwu Is Dead by BUSHFELLOW(m): 3:56pm On Jul 05, 2007
HMM he is 74 that is he did 4 years of over time i think he should go and rest he has tried. No man lives forever. for it is appointed unto man a time to born and a time to die.
PoliticsRe: Niger Delta Militants In Pictures by BUSHFELLOW(m): 3:54pm On Jul 05, 2007
the truth still remains that even if they are enriching them selfs with the ransom place on hostages is it not their birth right that the oil in question belongs to them. Let them continue one day they will have it. and i promise you it wont be like this anymore it will now be state problem which will be easy to deal with. i mean if any state government refuse to develop his state and embezzle the wealth all we have to do is born down the state house at least that one is close to us not Abuja.

Militancy should continue as all those suffering will get justice soon






DODRIMA TO ALL THOSE FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE FOR ALL
PoliticsRe: What Is The Solution To Niger Delta Crisis by BUSHFELLOW(m): 2:39pm On Jul 05, 2007
every state should control their resources thats all
PoliticsRe: Ministerial List by BUSHFELLOW(m): 1:57pm On Jul 05, 2007
where do we meet so we can start immediately with the bombing of ota and also sending out a flier reading leave yar adua alone to make is decision or else your life is next in line. you know well you forget say perter odili follow for people when leave him state with debt abi. i think we should start with your mentor Odili









METAL NO DEY BREAK
PoliticsRe: Ekene Dili Chukwu Is Dead by BUSHFELLOW(m): 1:33pm On Jul 05, 2007
imagine i forgot to ask that question at what age did he died
PoliticsRe: Ministerial List by BUSHFELLOW(m): 1:32pm On Jul 05, 2007
we should not also forget that the election that brought in yaradua is fraudulent, they can equally be using it against him so as to hold him hostage.
this might be true in all sense. if he tries to speak they will remind him that he didn't win the election. who knows may be that is why he is fighting for unity government and also credibility
PoliticsRe: Ekene Dili Chukwu Is Dead by BUSHFELLOW(m): 11:01am On Jul 05, 2007
May his soul rest in peace but still on still the nation still remains and it will keep moving. Peace
PoliticsRe: Ministerial List by BUSHFELLOW(m): 10:56am On Jul 05, 2007
@ needeeg

You guys should not forgot Ojo is in PDP, and pdp rulling, so don't be surprise seeing him anywhere!
no be lie you talk jare Imagine the list that is coming out. I guess now every one will see why Obasanjo wanted Yar adua as president so i can hand pick for him. Now tell me if it was duke or odili that succeeded in being this nations president this kind of list wont suffice because those people has deep pocket they will run the show of Obasanjo.

I pity Yar' Adua make una they pray because those clamoring for Ibb who is not in power for long to be arrested should should now seat back and start praying because if that list pulls through expect nothing good. the benin ore road that is already a nightmare will remain like that, power sector that he decleared what upon will be going down more from 4000 mega watt to 1000 mega watt. we are finish if that is the real list that they sent to the senate.
PoliticsRe: Why On Earth Is Ibb Not In Jail by BUSHFELLOW(m): 10:34am On Jul 05, 2007
what i do know and believe in my heart is that man wont be arrested in generation of politicians all you wishing for his arrest believe me before you become the president of this country for you to make such a decision the man might have gone to meet with his creator. So dont disturb you selves.

Now tell me who will arrest him is it yaradua who called him is elder brother or is it David mark who was his minister for communication during his regime as head of state. A man who came out in national television to say that telephone is not meant for the poor I guess he should be ashamed of himself deliberating over the inefficiency of gsm operators in Nigeria as a senate president.

Please you guys should tell me who can other for a man's arrest who saw his adc reading how to plan a coup with out letting the man know that he has saw the book with him, the man saw him coming and tries to hide it but the genius just pretend as if he didn't see him with anything, three weeks later he called the adc and make him a military administrator. That man was the last military administrator of adamawa state during his regime just to remove any notion of coup plotting from his mind.

Tell me which politician now did not benefit from this man while in office. And to you asking the question if he was the only head of sate that has ruled this nation get one thing clear the man new the mistakes of his predecessors and him worked on it that was why he stayed long in office.

He was the first man to be called on phone immediately by Al mustapha when Abacha died. He instructed mustapha what to do how not to let useni know about the death. that man either by proxy or directly will continue to rule this nation believe it or not, soon Yar' Adua will begin to romance with the general openly as we will see Obasanjo take the back seat.

The man knows how to play his cards well he knows when to stand down and he knows when to step aside i don't care what you think of him even if you believe his regime was the worst i tell it was better than that of abacha and abdusalam put together. Have you asked your self what abdusalam did with our budget before he left office? The answer is not far fetched he left with it. So you all should stop pointing finger at IBB when atiku and Obasanjo stole from this nation so much within a short period of time not to talk of the governors.
PoliticsRe: Why On Earth Is Ibb Not In Jail by BUSHFELLOW(m): 10:02pm On Jul 03, 2007
We are not celebrating injustice but rather we saying that a man like IBB yes has ill gotten wealth. why chase him that has left power for a long time and leave behind the recent crooks that just leave office after spending eight and some are even in the senate to continue it looting and for you mamajama all those people you mentioned were never politicians if they did i mean if they went in to politics many of them will be granted pardon just like bush did to Scooter Libby and also what Regan during his days in office.

look politicians knows how to play their cards well if you are corrupt and you know that might be arrested anytime it is imple just stsy in the wining party i mean the ruling party and see if you wont be going scout free.

Adedibu and IBB Who is more worst and who is suppose to be in jail as of now. what about the Uba's look my there IBB played his card with dignity staining even the hands he know will call for his head some day he is a genius. no wealthy man in Nigeria will come out today and say he never benefited from Ibb even ehinderpo the Past Ig. even the dead man Abiola benefited. there is more to june 12 that we all don't know. Not all we find in the pages of tabloids are true some of them are sponsored

Nigerians need to understand that when IBB was a child, he behaved like a child. By this I mean that as a young military head of state, it was survival of the fittest. It was eat or be eaten. It was create a perfect perfidy or be roped into a phantom coup. It was a time of mind unrest but a time of maximum accumulation of wealth because the head of state controlled the lifeline of the nation, the oil wealth. Most of the military heads of State were relatively young, inexperienced in governance, could easily be manipulated by more matured but often hungry sycophants civilian under which platform Abiola falls into for sponsoring a coup that threw out Shonekan and brought Abach into Power (what he later paid for with his life) and the military profession was not in line with leading people to be alive but to die. I think we should forgive all of them for their youthful transgressions and move on and when i say move on i mean checkmate the current politicians make the accountable and stop barking like ribadu a toothless bull dog
PoliticsRe: Why On Earth Is Ibb Not In Jail by BUSHFELLOW(m): 7:50pm On Jul 03, 2007
No one is asking that question. you know why because he is still calling the shot in the ruling peoples democratic party that is currently putting food one most of the people that is contributing to these forum's table. so they can move against their God father now and also remember that majority of the people on this forum are Yoruba's so they cant wish that for him
PoliticsRe: Why On Earth Is Ibb Not In Jail by BUSHFELLOW(m): 7:38pm On Jul 03, 2007
for all of you who are asking the question why is babangida not in prison this is the answer to you all " POWER DOES NOT GO TO JAIL" That man is still among the most powerful man in this country be it in uniform or anything. get the book MACHIAVELLI THE MAFIA MANAGER OR MACHIAVELLI THE PRINCE and you will understand that power don't go to jail.

eight years of civil rule what meaningful gain did we see rather we heard on the interview cnn hard with the head of the administration that time will come when Nigerians will start to appreciate what he did. if he spent 8 years and we did not appreciate when are we going to appreciate.

As for IBB i think he is not the only one out there that is suppose to be in jail what about the past president, the library in ota is it not enough for him to be locked up, the acquiring of the highest shares in the refinenary that he sold to his friend and lot of others. i think IBB should not be an issue any more what we should be discussing here is how to sponsor a bill that will totally remove the immunity protecting public office holders so they can be held accountable while in office.

We all should move on and ask our senators representing us to make laws that will encourage those that still our money to bring them back home and invest it here so the economy will have a boost. just take a look at what Adenuga did with part of the money he got from babangida the man you all are asking to be sent to jail. i think it is not even up 5 percent of his total money, now imagine when all these crooks now invest the money here rather than soring them abroad for fear of the unknown.

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