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God dosent want you to kill your dad nor anyone sir, that thought is from the evil one. The problem is not what your dad has done to you but how you choose to look at those things, it's a thing of the mind. God is love and he would not motivate you to think in this manner. As a Christian which you said you are, you are supposed to feel sorry for your dad for his actions and have compassion for him because he is headed in the wrong direction and self destruction, instead of wanting to kill him, you will wanna save him through showing him God's kind of love because going by what you have said about him, he is already dead while living, so why are you still planning to kill someone who is already dead?
Killing him will only fast track his journey to eternal damnation. Is that what you as a Christian ought to be doing?

habicab:
Hi Speechless33, I am a Muslim and I know I might be the last kind of person you might want to get advice from. But then, I'd just try to advice you anyway. This is because sometimes, the solution to our problems may not really lie in the direction where we're searching through.

I always like to have religious discussions not just to convince anyone but sometimes for the sake of seeking knowledge. The fact that I don't agree with a particular point doesn't mean I cant have knowledge about it.

I know many will be surprised to see a non-christian fellow in a thread like this, but I'd like to make everyone understand that I'm not here to create any kind of enmity or problems around here. I'm here because of the OP's worries.

I usually ask people a simple question, why do we actually practice the various religions we are practicing? Most of us could begin to give several reasons within our hearts but the simple truth is that most of us do because that is what we were born into and brought up with. We have been made to believe what they believe and most times majority of us eventually get very grounded in what we do. Think about it, if you were to be born in the northern part of this country where majority are muslims or if your parents were to be muslims, definitely, you will be practicing Islam and you will do anything to defend your faith.

Regardless of this, we still find some set of people, defecting to other religions based on their personal reasons and it all begins when you begin to think and question some things about your belief.

It's really important to note that the fact majority are doing a thing doesn't make it right and also the fact that you do something a way and it works for you doesn't also make it right. An example is idol worship, the fact that some people worship idols and their prayers are answered doesn't make idol worshiping right.

Almighty God who created us Has the knowledge of everything. He created us and gave us rules and regulations to follow. Sin is simply going against the commandment of God Almighty. Just as Adam and Eve committed sin by going against the commandment of God, so also every human being who goes against the commandments of God has committed an sin. Death is not a consequence of sin but it is a sure reality which will overcome every creature in this world. God Who created the heaven and hell knows why He created them. Think about it, if we don't die, how are we going to be judged? It's absolutely obvious that the outcome of the judgement is what will differentiate the dwellers of the heaven from those of hell. If the heaven and the hell are going to be the final destinations, then we all need to ask ourselves what the real purpose of our creation is...

No doubt everyone of us want to go to the heaven and the only way we can do that is to worship God Almighty our Creator alone and follow HIs commandments. The only way we commit sin is because satan the accursed creeps into our hearts and always tend to make us go against the commandments of God. That's why when we commit a sin, we need to repent and turn back to our Creator because He's the only One Who can forgive us and save us from satan. If you flash back, that's the same thing Adam and Eve did and God Almighty Who is The All Forgiving, The Merciful forgave them. He will always forgive us as long as we fall back to Him in sincere repentance...

Islam is the ONLY non-christian faith which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus Christ(peace be upon him). No muslim is a muslim if he does not believe in Jesus Christ(peace be upon him). This is because he was a messenger and a Prophet of God Almighty.

Islam is an arabic word derived from the arabic word 'slm, which means PEACE'. Islam by definition simply means "peace acquired through total submission to the will of Almighty God".

Muslim is also an arabic word which by definition means "someone who totally submits his/her will to the will of Almighty God"

For those who are really sincerely searching for the truth about the essence of our creation and looking for answers as regards some disturbing issues, kindly consult the Last and Final Revelation sent to the whole of humanity by God Almighty (The Noble Quran) through His Last and Final Prophet and Messenger (Prophet MUhammad, Peace Be upon him).

Quran is the only religious scripture on the surface of the earth which still retains its original for since Its revelation over 1400 years back. Although, It was revealed through Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him), every single word in It is God's.

It's highly important to note that there is no compulsion in religion but at the same time, there's no harm in seeking for knowledge even if it's about what you don't believe in.

Forget about how some unfortunate people try to paint Islam black, you just open the book and look sincerely into it and I pray you find your answers and guidance.

Nice comment. Do you mind if I ask you something?

Why Christianity is the true "religion" :
Christianity is the only religion that has a saviour in the person of Jesus.
Christianity is the only "religion" that the has a God who died and resurrected and is alive today. Budda, Krishna, Confucius, Mohammed all still dead and you can point to the tombs of these gods with their remains.
Christianity is the only "religion" that liberates women from the confinement when it comes to worship. All men are equal before the almighty God.
Christianity is the only "religion" that has the answer to the sinful nature of man.
Christianity is the only "religion" that you know God intimately and personally.
Christianity is the only religion that offers you salvation as a gift, you don't have to do anything whatsoever before you receive that elusive atonement that everyman desires. For it was given to us by grace lest no man should boast.
And so on......
But my pains and the bitter truth is that 90% of the so called Christians today are not living like Christ. That's why we can't stand up for what we believe in. You can hardly spot the difference between a 21st century Christian and non Christian.
Christianity without the person of Christ is simply hypocrisy.

frank317:
I guess its not bothering the holy spirit right? D you think the condition of chibok girls shouldn't bother anyone? Does it not bother you? I might understand why it wouldn't bother you all loving God, but u?

What a wicked question. You must be the devil.

Thank you sir.

Judas2013:
In that case can your holy spirit help find the missing Chibok girls or not?

Is that the only thing bothering you right now?

ValentineMary:
You seriously amuse me. I just helped u explain the concept of hell better and how it came out of the love of God. Your refusal to call myth what they are is a sure sign of being totally brainwashed. If u think the same God that ordered the killing of women and children also loves them, then u are joking.

Alright sir. Not my intention to stir up any sort of anger in you over the topic. Do have a splendid night.

ValentineMary:
Yeah, God made hell for the devil and his agents right? but he is all knowing nd he also knew that some far more beings called humans would be made and he would eventually thrown them in hell if they go against his holy will. So invariably he made hell for demons and humans. God loves us so much that he made hell just in case we don't love him back.

And as u said God planned everything, even those he throws in hell and the kids that die of starvation. I guess they are all part of God's divine plan.

All i can see is that you already have a prejudiced mind to these things because what you just asked, I have answered them already. My bro, know this; your refusal to acknowledge these things dosent make them not applicable to you. Instead of continuing in your defiant and denial mindset, I will advise you to just ask God in humility to reveal the truth to you in a way you will understand better. Believe it or not, hell and heaven and the God's divine love are real and your disbelief nor the disbelief of 99. 99%of the entire human race won't make then go away. Am telling you this outta love bro, you came from somewhere you don't know and you don't know where you are going the moment you drop dead sir. But know this; it is appointed unto man once to die and after that judgement follows.
The bible also says that it's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God........ think about it.

Judas2013:
How did you know did? Are you a personal lawyer to Yahweh?

Lol, am not Yahweh's lawyer sir. How did I knew all these? Through reading of God's word ie Bible and the revelation his holy spirit gave me.
He told us that if you seek him, you will find him. My case wasn't different, am still seeking tho because I can't get enough of him.

ValentineMary:
If you agree thay God planned everything from beginning, that would mean that he planned the killing of does in the north by boko haram, he planned the titanic, he planned the second world war, and he is ready to throw us in hell just to show his glory. But he loves us. Please define love

From your point, are you saying that God is boko haram?
Boko haram are human beings who choose to live the way they do freely.
Read my post against, God as am talking to you now dosent wasn't you to go to hell, hell was meant for Lucifer and his angels. Have you ever wondered what made a perfect God create humans? Because he wanted us to be like him tho with his authority intact. He loves us and you can agree with me that if you love someone you will want that love to be reciprocated without force and that's why he gave us the ability to choose to love him on our own, without programming us like robots.
As per what perfect love is, Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant Or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; It does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends. That's God's kind of love.

ifenes:
"God" is a race of beings who used humans to mine gold,nothing more. They don't care what happens to humans. However they have helped us become curious beings by adding their dna to ours. How we rule ourselves is up to us.

What makes you say so?

God loves mankind more than you can ever imagine. People have asked this question many times and I think it's not bad if someone really wants to find out what's the essence of all these things. God in his original creation never intended for man to experience all these. Everything good created was good. But God also gave man the ability to mess things up ie freewill. He wanted to see if man will actually learn authority and obedience. He gave Adam and eve an instruction about the forbidden fruit, but man choose not to obey the instruction and went ahead to do otherwise. That's where the problem of man started. The truth is that all these killings and bad things were started by us, we are the cause of it even presently through the decisions and actions we take. Then don't forget the devil, who was the first to challenge the authority of God, he lays it in the hearts of men to rebel against God through their wicked and selfish actions. But the good news is that God planned everything from the beginning to the end, through one man sin and death entered the world but through another man Jesus, life and redemption was brought back to men. The truth is that God will someday judge everyman according to his works and being a perfect judge, those that choose to rebel against his authority together with Lucifer will perish and that's the sad truth. This one will end someday and God's sovereign kingdom where no death nor rebellion nor wickedness will exist, a perfect world.
Everything depends on the choice man wants to make for himself. Are you willing to choose to believe in him and his salvation through his son and be saved or choose to disregard him?

obayaya:
And What is the path of truth? So one denomination is the path of truth and the other isn't? What's with these endless divisions in the body of Christ? Christians sha

Wow.... Surprised to see ya quote, longest time.
Bro you misunderstood me, am never an advocate for this church or that church, nor denominational segregation. The path of truth i was referring to is Jesus Christ through the guidance of the holy spirit by reading the bible and If you check my post you will see that I was talking about reading the bible and never mentioned any church as the path of truth bro.
As much as you do, I hate the divisions in the body of Christ today, that's not what God intended for us.
Happy New year!

dalaman:
Which holy spirit directs the christians to interpret the bible differently? Just follow the debates btw christians here, you will see two sincere chritsians disagree on different issues and both of them always lay claim to the holy spirit as their guide our source of interpretation. Why is the holy spirit sending different messages to different people? If there is anything like the holy spirit then there will be one universally accepted christian message or doctrine. Very sincere believers often disagree and all of them lay claim to the holy spirit. The answer and reason to that to me is obvious.

Honestly I get your point, there is a lot of controversy in the Christendom today due to the various doctrines and interpretations we have today. But you can't attribute that to be the fault of the almighty God or his holy spirit. Are you saying that the holy spirit is a confused messenger or what? Why haven't you sat back and place the blame on we humans and our way of messing things up?
If a lecturer gives out handout to his students and after exams 90% of his students fail, will you blame the lecturer only and absolve his students entirely from the failure?
Why are you attributing our own imperfections to a perfect God bro?

KingEbukasBlog, don't be drawn into making derogatory remarks on them sir, that's not what Christ will do. Even though the urge to voice out comes, it ought to be done in humble and loving manner. Remember our God is love and love demands a lot from us.

dalaman:
Give me an example of a good christian society you know and lets compare it with any non christian society we also know.

Hahaha, there is nothing like a good Christian society bro.
We live in a fallen world and I can bet you that the devil is everywhere. I know what you want to do, I will give you a so called good Christian society and you will spot out the wrong things they do. Christianity is not about claiming population, it's a thing of the heart, by their fruits you shall know them.

plaetton:
So you think Nigeria is a failed state because Nigerians are bad Christians or that Christianity in Nigeria helps create bad people?

Sir, Nigeria is a failed state because of the bad decisions we take born out of the greedy and selfish desires of our hearts, the lust that breeds from our corrupted mind and the pride that comes with selfishness. We only consider morals when it feels right, what everyone is doing seems to be right irrespective of who bests the grave consequences.
Nigeria is a failed state because our ways have rejected the light that comes from God, we have chosen to put God aside and only do what we think is right in our own eyes.
All these has nothing to do with either you are a Christian or not, it's the bane of all mankind. And Christianity has been perversed by these same re reprobate minds. But thank God for the few that are still clinging on to the truth that comes from our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ.

dalaman:
There is nothing like knowing God on your own through the bible, it is a big lie. If I bring a bible verse to you and bring another christian who is a genuine believer chances are very high that the two of you will interpret the verse or story differently. That is exactly why we have so many different sects and denominations withing the christian religion, because everything all boils down to personal interpretations.

From what you said, is the problem with word of God (bible) or with those interpreting it?
Why are you attributing man's mistake too God's profound word?
That's why Jesus told us about the holy spirit who is the discerner of thoughts. He is the only one with the key to reveal the deep things that our mere peanut brain cannot comprehend and once any two or three or more Christians have him, the truth is revealed in accord. The problem with most acclaimed Christians is that they claim to know the bible from what their own religious doctrine tells them and not through the prism of the holy spirit.
Are you an atheist sir or a skeptic or agnostic? Which one?

plaetton:
Lol.
Nigeria is a country where lots of people have found Jeezeus ?
Right?

Figures.

Bro, lemme ask you this, Imagine a son who rejects his father's fine upbringing and leaves home to live a corrupt life which the father does not approve but yet he allows him to make the choice. Will you rightfully conclude that the son had a bad father if you meet him?

Speechless3:
I think i will take this advice. I feel so cut off from the church. Do you think i should see another priest?

I wouldn't want to sound as if am against Catholics but the one thing am sure of is that the truth about God and Christianity without hypocrisy is in the bible and you don't need anyone to reveal the deep things of God to you. You can know him on your own and have a personal relationship with him.
Check out the what Jesus told the Samaritan woman at the well in John 4 : 19-24.
Feed on his word and you can then go back in meekness and humility and ask your priests questions on things bothering your doctrine with what the bible actually says.
The spirit of the living God will guide you.

Speechless3:
Probably. But the catholic church still has the highest population. Can all these people be wrong?

Yea. Even the whole world may be wrong when it comes to God's standard. Romans 3vs4: Yea let God be true and every man a liar.
Keep reading, you will discover more truth with the help of the holy spirit.

plaetton:
My advice is that once you leave the Catholic church to seek religious meaning elsewhere, you will never find it.
Pentecostalism offers you candies and Titilates your basest human natures, your needs, your base desires, your fears.

Thereafter, you will begin to equate spiritual growth with personal accumulation.

I have not seen anyone, and there are many, who have left the Catholic, Methodist or Anglican churches, for spiritual greener pastures show or display any mental or social improvement in their lives.

For most, it just like jumping from frying pan to fire, or from liberating yourself from one form of mental slavery to a more pernicious one.

What you , like many others, suffer is a crisis of meaning.

The bottom line is ; if you haven't found meaning in one religion or sect, you will not find it in any .

Try philosophy.

She should try Jesus Christ and not philosophy.
Thank God the holy spirit is already leading her to the path of truth.
Op, keep seeking God through his word, you will find him.

leofab:
wing to the fact I ressurected the thread, I decided to google for it. Here's what I found:


IF YOU HAVE A KING JAMES VERSION,
Look up Psalms 46. Count until you get to the 46th word, which is SHAKE. Now count 46 words from the end, and it is SPEAR.


William Shakespeare was 46 years old at the time he translated this Bible, which means logical sense, seeing as it is in the 46th Psalm, the 46th words from top and bottom.

Hahaha..... nice one.
Ok.... So you saying in essence that the bible of old was translated by Shakespear, and that the proof is what you just told me right?
Can you give me observable evidence showing the bible of the old how it was and the bible after Shakespear translated it or are you saying that he just fixed his name as you claimed in Psalm 46 and that's it?

leofab:
these scripts were edited by Constantine and his friends to suit their purpose; William Shakespeare was part of the revision team who tempered the bible ad he wen wrote his name and age as of then in the bible; care to know more

Gladly.....Am all ears

Religion is driven by none of these, religion is driven by man's quest to find answers to issues that are beyond his five senses and the outcome of seeking for such truth where you can't find it results in the chaos religion has caused in the world today.

NORAD:
Well said.

Thanks bro....The gospel truth must be told. Thats our mandate and what we live for.

leofab:
i believe in humanity and not a supreme being that I can't see with my eyes..I wil start believing in your God when manna start falling again and all my humanly endeavours being taken care by an heavenly being but until then my allegiance is with my fellow humans whom I can't survive without... Thank you

So your evidence of disproving the existence of a supreme being is because you can't behold him with your mere human eyes?
Does out mean that once you can't see something then it dosent exist?
The phone that you are using to type these things can you see the electromagnetic waves surrounding it and drawing signals to it? But does it mean they dosent exist?
You can't yet figure out millions of hidden discoveries scattered all over the universe and yet you want the creator to appear to you before you believe that he exists?
Are you actually being logical or merely arrogant and foolish?
Am saying this in love, but how dumb can you get and still breathe?
God exists and the evidence are all around you, and it's not a matter of proof for you, it's a matter of trying to deny and suppress them.
If you want to see God truly, seek him and you will find him. He always shows up if you are humble enough to accept that you are confused about the whole thing and need the truth and not going about it in arrogance and waving of anything you don't understand.

kingsilly:
This still baffle me though, the world is very mobile now, you can get Christian message on the go, the necessity to gather in a particular place is long loosing its value, I don't need to be in a particular setting to pray, read my bible and say my Graces. I agree they are churches that preach the gospel the way it is, but that's like finding a needle in a haystack.

You are right but the bible wasn't mistaken when it said that we should not forsake the gathering of brethrens. God knew that times such as this will come and he also knew that some of us may out of subtle and unassuming nature may pull out and go into personal worship only without seeing the need for corporate worship anymore. But, do you know what your going to church may result into by next week? You may not know who your revelation of the gospel truth may affect out of those worshipers who are still blind to the deep things of the spirit. You are no longer going to that church to fulfill all righteousness but going to do the work of an evangelist in love. You can question some certain doctrines in the process and ask questions in open discussions, the religious folks may shut you out but you wouldn't know who you have unknowingly triggered that urge of seeking to find out the truth when they leave that gathering.
I believe you also want someone else to come to the same knowledge of truth which you have, won't you? Remember a salt can't affect the soup if it stays in the salt shaker.

leofab:
what are you saying? Are you calling Jesus Christ God ? You mean God died?? Use your head sir!!!!

Lol.... don't quote me out of context ma'am. Jesus Christ is the son of God... But if you look at the concept of trinity(God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit) then yes he is also God. He came died and resurrected and God the father gave him authority over all things both in heaven and on earth that at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow. Jesus will also say in one of his gospels that he is one with the father and that whosoever seeth him has also seen the father.

leofab:
but Islam is a religion and faith in Mohammed ? Or rather Buddhism is religion and not having faith in Buddha? Your hypocrisy knows no bound...

Like NORAD rightly said, Christianity is not a religion rather a way of life. Look at it this way, religion in its entirety including those you listed above started with men, but Christianity started with God. It's origin is as a result of those apostles in Antioch that exhibited the same type of life that Christ lived while he was on earth, people saw their distinct lifestyle that took after Christ and ended up calling them Christians ie Christ - Like. And mind you, Jewish religion has been in existence all those time even when Christ was still on earth.
Most at times people mix up Christianity and religion and think they are the same but the gospel truth is that Christianity the way Christ showed us is actually an enemy of religion and doctrines of men.

kingsilly:
Haven't been to church for sometime now, months it is, went today and it seem I'm feeling disconnected with the doctrine of the church and the idea as a whole, I do listen to Christian podcast(Joel Osteen preferably)for those time I wasn't in church and still feel more fulfilled hearing the word unfiltered just by meself not influenced by anyone..
Will take another lengthy time before I step into church again, christianity to me is a state of mind, and such state can be achieved when you @ the confine of your home or anywhere.
Nigerians religion leaders has topsided it


@ oliviaarims Wat say you.

Permit me to say that your points are quite valid in the sense that most churches today are just mere gatherings and performance of weekly religious rituals without Jesus as the focus of worship as it is meant to be. People go to church today just to fulfill all righteousness and get God of their back for the rest of the week. They pay tithe and settle God for the month and return to their bribery and corruption. In summary, there's a whole lot of people that needs to hear the gospel truth and a whole number of them are in churches today.
But bro, distancing yourself from the gathering of brethren for a long time can backfire, remember the wiles of the enemy and how deceptive he can be. There are still some good churches today because it's not possible for the body of Christ to be prevailed completely by the gates of hell. All you need do is to pray that the holy spirit will lead you to that church that will uplift you whenever you come around and will leave you feeling awesome after each service without perversion of the gospel truth.
I will be praying for you. Remain Blessed.

Niyeal:
be fool to enjoy fullness of God. Dont ask how

The fullness of God dosent't come by giving tithe to God or through some religious doctrines and laws, the fullness of God comes from knowing who God is and allowing Christ to dwell in your heart by faith, rooted in and grounded in love. Your tithe without knowing who God is by revelation which the holy spirit gives profiteth you absolutely nothing.

The prof have some element of truth in what he said. Religion only permits what services it. Christians are too lazy to seek God on their own privately and discover his ways, they run after signs and wonders and Keep getting bamboozled in the process by fake prophets and pastors. Apostle Paul warned against this in one his epistles to the early churches, and if go and study them today, you will think that Paul just wrote the letter to our modern churches recently. I can't allow someone tell me about God to the point that am just a spectator of the whole debacle, I want to also tell people about God too in spirit and in truth and that's why my bible is alive to guide me when it comes to the deep things of God through the help of the holy spirit.
Know God for yourself and have a personal relationship with him, that's the hallmark of a true Christian.