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Dekatron:
oh!! Bruhh!! I know you care, but I just cannot believe in your GOD. . . .

Can you give me one good reason why?

HCpaul:
Ifeness and Hahn are right, but i love the response of Bxcode.

All that ifeness and Hahn said about christianity religion are true. And in fact, the pharisee were a very good example of a doctrine established upon the standards of religion.
But however, God is no more demanding for religion but relationship.
And that is why both ifeness and hahn were born in a christian family but never knew christ.
John by name, peter by name ain't a qualification.

Once again, christianity is not a religion, but a relationship with the trinity.

I belief that one day, in this world or in the world of the dead, those two athiest listed above will surrender to the truth they knew.

Good bless you sir

johnydon22:
Isn't it funny how the Christian God denied man the gift of eternal life when man is alive (By taking away the fruit of immortality in eden) and then promise to give man eternal life when man eventually dies. . . .

I have never heard something more moroni_c and idiotic..

man should not live forever because he now has a sound reason but when you die you will live forever, so is man now going to return to that imbecili_c state after man dies?

Tell a Christian that there was a golden apple fruit in Greek mythology that could give eternal life they will laugh at you but they believe there was such a fruit in Eden that can give eternal life...

Religious beliefs centered around such ridiculous myths is that a whole bunch of people are involved (Billions) that's why it's called religion instead of madness..

Do you stand up for this your belief in real life or you just using NL as a medium to spew your claims and counter claims.... if yes I would like to sit down with you face to face over a lunch and chat constructively with open mind.

Op, when men tries to bring out the so called beast in you through their actions, show them the Christ in you and leave them bewildered. Keeping enemity or malice is hard work.... it kills gradually.

Teempakguy:
oh i AM an atheist. we, as sons of lucifer, are quite adept at quoting the bible.

all hail the flying spagetti monster.

cc dekatron.

Whatever rocks your boat man...... at least the denial is coming from you and not from me.

Teempakguy:
of course you can defend something that doesn't exist. after all . . . muslims defend allah. and he doesn't exist. according to you anyway.


also, men have been proven several times to be smarter than God. advising him and showing him flaws in in his thinking. but then, that was yahweh. so i won't use that here.
look here, i don't have a tiny brain. no human has. unlike, you a recognize the value of the billions of neurons my brain possesses. i value my intellectual prowess. the person who said only fools believe there is no God, was solomon. do you know what happened to him?

yes, sir. he served Baal. so, i guess you are a fool as well for not acknowledging that Baal exists. I'll see you in the philistine hell then, shan't I?

Here's someone that thinks he advises God and in a few minutes or hours will lay down and rest, devoid of what's going on around him nor were his spirit was throughout the sleep. You have a large brain and you are yet to figure out how to use 10% of it. That's so much for an adviser.
Am a fool for not acknowledging that Baal exists? Are you sure you know who you've been chatting with because I can't remember ever typing such.
Oh yes for your sake Baal and so many other gods also exist but there is a one and only true GOD. live your life the way you want it bro, after all you have heard and known the truth but rejected it. We are all gone fine out about this God someday... and this time around nobody will explain anything to you because you gonna be standing face to face with him. For your sake i hope you are right about his non existence because if not........

Teempakguy:
wait . . . . oh,
it wasn't i who said we are Gods. but anyway.
not all Gods are omnipotent and/or omniscient. you arguing for that is highly flawed.

let's take this from the top. check out the wikipedia definition for "deity" which also means a god.


this shows that gods are not necessarily supernatural. and they need not have any ridiculous party trick powers. it is simply being thought of as divine.
jesus himself doesn't approve of your post, dear sir, here is what he said in john 10:34

Sorry for mistaken you as an atheist
At least we both have a common stand point of relation.
Of course I agree with you that not all god are omniscient.

Teempakguy:
YES SIR! if i stand by and watch you use my name to defraud people for 2000 years, damn it. it would make me an accomplice even. if God is not killing anybody, then where was he when all those men killed people in his name? just read what you typed nah. if i were to start killing people and i said you sent me, would you stand by and watch? if you did, what does that mean? it means i'm right. inaction is action. if i do nothing while i watch people being defrauded in my name, then i either don't exist, or i am in full agreement with what they are doing.

your buhari analogy is ridiculous on many levels. you're saying it is possible for boko haram to claim that buhari is supporting them and that he is the one behind their activities, and buhari would keep quiet and say nothing, and still be considered innocent. how foolish is that? why are you the one to defend this God? yes, because you created him.

don't say wrong things here.

**Smiles***
Haven't you heard that the foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of men? God won't prove anything to you nor the thousands of your kind who wants to reduce God to mere empirical and logical existence just with your mere tiny brain. People like you have existed in the past, is still existing and will still exist in the future and it won't change anything. if you are wise as you claim go and check out the stories of people like you in the past and then you will see your future clearly in 3d.. Truly, it is only a fool that says in his heart that there is no God.
And am not defending God because he can always do that anytime anyday... lol i mean he is God, and he will fully do that on that appointed day, am helping your kind come to see things differently and nit outta your arrogant way of wanting God to price himself to you before you believe him.
To show you your confusion and blindness, You think God doesn't exist? How can I defend something that doesn't exist?

Dekatron:
1. They stopped going to church cos they found out that God is a delusion, just like we are telling you. They did what we told you to do :- USE YOUR HEAD!!


2. The elder generations probably didn't pass enough BS down because they are doing what we are :- REJECTING THE IDEA. Even if they didn't, its a WIN-WIN cos religion is dying PER GENERATION (Islam is s stubborn b1tch, but she will fulfil that too. Tartar9,empiree, rilwayne001, take note)


3. Yes, I know. My JSS3 CRS teacher taught me that (Mrs Afolabi or something). Christianity started from antioch. Its in the book of ACTS.


4. They became Muslim cos of HISTORY. I'd recommend History 101. Don't worry, its just 1 unit.



5. Well, thats your problem. If Nigeria becomes that, who cares? Besides, IT CANNOT HAPPEN. . . . You can say the NORTH, but not Whole Nigeria. Not in this age. . . . Those countries that became Muslim long ago, not 21stcentury. Capische?



6. If we all revolt against God, and he still retain his Glory, WHY FORCE US THEN? WHY SAY THAT WE WILL ROAST IN HELL FOR NOT FOLLOWING HIM? WHY FORCE US TO BELIEVE?. . . To any logical person, by implication, we all should be atheists and He still won't be bothered. . . Then, it contradicts the verse :- A FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD. As such, NEVER EVER QUOTE THAT VERSE FOR ME AGAIN. . . OR YOUR FELLOW THEISTS. . . . Either you say that :- IF WE DON'T WORSHIP GOD, HIS GLORY WILL BE NOTHING AND HE WOULD BE MOVED or YOU REMOVE THAT VERSE :- A FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD from the Bible.



7. No.The topic of this thread provides empirical evidence. You just committed a sin. Lying, pretence and hypocrisy . Better go on your knees and beg your sky daddy. Else, at the end, you wll meet dekatron in hell. My hell cell mate.


8. My hope is in FLYING SPAGHETTI.

Am saying this in love really..... your situation is a typical example of those that have been given over too reprobate minds. You are wallowing darkness which will only lead you to self destruct and then you will go and face that being you have despised and ridiculed just for the fun of it DESPITE KNOWING THAT HE EXIST. I hope you are getting ready for that day bro.... it's gonna be awesome.

Teempakguy:
this is a very dumb post. i must say. so, you're saying that it is god that makes people to resume breathing if they stop doing it? what the hell?

so you're saying God drowns people?

Am saying that you don't own the life you are living sir and that you are not your own God, someone gave you your life and you gonna give account of it someday.
Your response ain't even comprehending with your initial claims about being your own god.
If you are your own god as you claim, how many hairs are on your head? Don't gimme lame excuses because as a god you ought to know everything that makes you a god.
You haven't figured out how to use up to 10% of your peanut brain properly and you are claiming tho be a god, that's awesome...... in a stupid way tho.

Teempakguy:
the babylonians . . . again, thought of their kingdoms as divine and from God. in fact, they viewed their kings as divine representatives of God to earth. the israelites viewed themselves as god's chosen. I think we can all now see how wrong they all were. you, sir, think of christianity as God's kingdom. well, sir, God's kingdom has over 5000 different denominations and each of those denominations despise themselves and think the other is going to burn in hell. sir, God's kingdom is ROBBING people of their hard earned money. God's kingdom has been responsible for the deaths of several innocent men and women over the decades and at this moment, it is being kept in check by MAN's KINGDOM.

God's kingdom is worthless to us. it promises us a dry eternity, a dry life, and a meaningless existence.

God's kingdom seeks to burn billions of people in hell fire at the expense of a few 0.000000001 percent.

lemme just stop.

I can see you are having the same perception of God just like your likes, religious doctrines of men that paints a wrong image of God. All those things you mentioned has nothing to do with God himself but everything to do with men who uses God's name to achieve their selfish desires. If I go out there and start defrauding people using your name, does that make you yourself a fraud actually?
God ain't killing nobody, people are killing themselves through their actions and evil minds and you are attributing it to God When you go out there and bribe and commit crime in Nigeria, would you turn around and say it's Buhari's fault that you did such because he in control of Nigeria? How dumb can you get with your own logic?
Sir, You are living in pure ignorance and perverted mentality and I don't blame you honestly because religion has done more harm than good to this world as a result of the way they portray God. You will only see the truth when you are shown the real nature of God.

BuddhaPalm:
Christianity is not the enemy. Human nature is.

I couldn't agree less.

ifeness:
There is no God in Christianity. Behind the mask of God lies manipulative men. The human race is turning away from Yahweh and Allah and embracing the real God, which is themselves.

I will like to ask you this simple question since you are your own God and by implication controls everything about you, can you make your eyes not to blink?
Or better still try holding your breathe for just two minutes and try stopping that force when it comes to forcefully make you burst into breathing. How dumb can you get and still breathe to think that you own your life and control everything about you..

Teempakguy:
your last three lines.

The babylonians once thought so of their kingdom. so did the israelites. nothing lasts forever, sir. not even christianity.

Those are kingdom's of men and as a matter of fact this world will someday perish entirely but Christ and his kingdom will be till eternity.
Don't mix up men's institution and Christ's own.

menesheh:
I don't argue on dishonesty and blind argument sort of scene.

1. noun
(uncountable) The belief in and worship of a supernatural controlling power, especially a personal god or gods.

2. (countable) A particular system of faith and worship.
Islam is a major religion in parts of Asia and Africa.
Eckankar is a new religion but Zoroastrianism is an old religion.


Your gullibility on believing weird stories is pretty amazing. A superhuman in the sky coughed and the mind boggling universe came into existence. This is not different from harry Potter stories. Claims that didn't left in their doorsteps any shroud of evidence and proves to justify such extraordinary claims. Christianity being the most popular religion doesn't make its claims a true one. Christianity spread via crusade by one of the world strongest empire (Rome). It is just like Empire rises and die. It just a random sort of thing.

All the definition you posted answered the whole issue, religion is a mode of worshiping a higher being which all originated from man and that the dictionary was careful to use gods showing you that their are many gods today but only one is the true God and before religion was ever invented by man, Jesus Christ has ever been.
Christianity is a way of life..... I get your confusion really.... I'll let it pass.
You think am gullible? I think you are weird and ignorant to think that everything around you from the tiniest ant to the biggest mammal on earth each with their own different way of carefully outlined coexistence including man and his ever unpredictable nature even when science tries to summarize his existence and keep on falling just jumped out from nothing without thinking that someone somewhere carefully designed all these things and the way they live and dwell on earth. Even the ordinary phone you using type the whole thing didn't jump outta space neither did what created it nor what created what created it and so on. You are just swimming in pure denial and ignorance

ifeness:
Growing up a christian with all the dodgy belief was like dying a painful death. I couldn't wait to get out of it. Luckily my return to England at the age of 19 paved the way. A return to the home of modern Christianity made me realist the guys who brought the religion to Africa,majority of them now see it as a stone age thing. How many young white kids/youth go to church? 5%!!!

Don't worry it is happening in Nigeria and Africa at large.

"Only the fools believe there was actually a god "

Did you care to know why the young generation stopped going to church? Did you try to find out what happened to their Christian faith and what the whether the generation before then passed something tangible to them to hold on to?
Do you know that Christianity started in Antioch, somewhere in the Middle east?
Do you know that those living there now are predominantly Muslims?
Do you know that Nigeria in the near future may end up like one of those countries because Christians are nut truly doing what is biblically expected of them?
But do you know that despite all these drops and changes in the origin of Christianity that Christianity has continued to grow at an unprecedented rate compared to any other religion of the world?
Do you know that even if the whole human race turns against God, it won't make him less who he is by an inch?
Do you know that Christianity will continue to grow and nothing whatsoever will stop it?
Do you know where your hope is?

hahn:
You must be new here otherwise you would have known that I don't entertain people who lack basic conversation manners especially when you reply a question with a question.



I'm not an atheist because it is not a thing to be but rather I'm atheist which describes my position regarding the belief, or non belief, in a supreme entity

Not all questions are meant too be answered Mr conversation manner, when you ask question outta blunt misconception, I will return the favor by giving you back a sacarstic question that will make you understand the level of irrelevance of your question.
You are an atheist simple, stop beating around the bush and be blunt, stand up fully for what you believe in. No one will kill you for that except for some countries tho.....

menesheh:
Until you visit a dictionary, you can say whatever, that Christianity is not a religion all you want, the fact is that Christianity is a religion.

And you seems pained. Christian is an ideology coated with supernatural benefits and threats with the identification of fraternal sort of congregating which makes it the most popular religion now.

Lol...not at all bro, pained for what? lolzz
Its only feeble minds that ordinary internet chat can affect their outward disposition in reality. On the topic, i think i should be telling you to go look up the word religion in the dictionary because when you do, you understand that Christianity and religion are two different contexts altogether.
The reason why its the most popular belief system is because its connected to the one and only true God who created the entire universe by his spoken words, the earths is of his and the fullness thereof and what you think has little or no effect on it.

Op, thats the world we live in and funny people are saying you are doing i too know
What the chap did was to spot a mistake simple, except if you went about it in an arrogant manner.

ifeness:
I am amazed. A "he" for your god,hmm. Don't forget most of us were born Christians and we know exactly what it is. It is a dying breed and nothing can stop that fact.

I look forward to seeing most churches turned into science labs, trade centers and museums and perhaps grave-yards

Fantasy that's all i call it. You know deep down within you that such is never gonna happen.
You needed not to tell me that you were once a christian for me to know because intuitive knowledge of something when backed by the spirit of God is pure truth. Actually what you are doing is to get a feel good feeling and trying to console yourself which is a very miserable way to live my dear. Stop running from the truth that is starring right at you because you had an experience in the past that made you become a shadow of what you are today. Remember there was a night you couldn't sleep because of this same thought about what is this whole thing all about. Just know that the same Jesus you are castigating and lashing out at loves beyond your wildest imagination irrespective of what you have done or who you are, because his true nature is love. if only you can let the past be and trust him again just this one more time, without all the religious sentiments all over the world today and perversed teachings too, he will reveal himself to you in a way you cant explain.

Gods will can be looked at in many context, when it has to do with generality of man, then go back to the beginning and during the creation of man, it will make the other wills clearer.

ifeness:
Wow wow!! A way of life which includes worshiping a man called Jesus right? And paying his dad tithes and offering regardless of how poor you are. And if you don't you go to a place called hell fire. Hmm what a way of life

Having a personal relationship with a god that is as cold as ice. What type of relationship do you call it when you need to obey and serve with your time and money without getting anything in return?

Your "way of life" is fading away. People who don't pray are better off people who pray for everything. Reasons being,lazy people tend to pray a lot.

You are very very very far from the gospel truth my dear, i don't know you but i can deduce that you have been fed a lot of perverse teachings and ideologies about God and how he operates and it has beclouded your judgement about the true nature of God and i only feel bad for you because you really need the truth and just for you to know, Christianity have been suffering violence and write offs from men over thousands of years in the past, so yours is just a drop in the ocean . One man in particular, Mr Voltaire from his home in France said back then that in 100 years time, the bible will be nothing but history and a forgotten book, but after 100 years, a bible school bought his home in France and turned it into a Christian Library . What am trying to let you know is that what you are saying Christianity or about Jesus or trying to tell me that my hope belief is fading away is irrelevant and the word irrelevant, your opinion about it doesn't change a grain of sand about it, and as for me i don't give a rip about your opinions concerning a fading stuffs and all that because i know God is real and i have tested a real God .Christianity and the kingdom of God will continue to march on and the gates of hell shall not prevail it. I will be praying for you that the truth which was buried in everyman at creation about yearning to know God voluntarily will come alive in your life one day and you will witness a transformation in your life. I love you with the love of Christ bro and Jesus does too and he is ever waiting for the day you will own up to him. Stay cool and outta trouble.

Op, i will like to know the basis of your question, of all the teachings and trues in the bible, you found this?

donTbone:
...for I am the way, the truth and the life. NO ONE comes to the FATHER except through me.

You couldn't have summarized it better.

hahn:
Lol. Atheism is not a religion because it doesn't stem from any belief system. It is simply the unbelief in a supreme entity. As for the rest of what you said, that's what other religions say.

Oh, the only reason why they are so many different denominations as you have rightly pointed out is because they are all man made. Just like man created god and decided to worship it. It's pretty simple really

Are you an atheist sir?

ifeness:
I do not get your logic. Christianity isn't a religion? Then what is it? Collection of tithes and offering,observing Christmas and Easter, reading from the bible is part of the christian religion...which evolves around a human sacrifice

Christianity is a way of life that originated from one man Jesus. The origin of Christianity started in Antioch with the disciples of Jesus, after his ascension. His disciples where acting like Christ did while on earth and the people of that era thought of a name to call them generally and started calling them Christians ie Christ(like).
To make it clearer, the Jews as at that time have their own religion that involves the pharisees and Sadducee and the scribes and so on, why didn't they refer to the disciples of Jesus to one of those their religious systems obtainable then?
Collection of tithes, offerings etc that you mentioned are all religious activities, because you are man started those activities as forms of remembering what has happened in the past. But there are some of them that are not religious activities also like reading of the bible and having a personal relationship with God. the summary is this, you can be religious but yet not a Christian if you go by the original meaning of Christianity.

hahn:
Do you and your church members all act like Christ?

Do you and your siblings all act like your dad?

hahn:
Really? And what part of christianity exactly is the true way of life? Is it deeper life, rccg, cac, celestial church, mormonisn, jw or other factions among the more than 2,000 different denominations?

Besides, what you have written up there is the same thing all other theists, 4,000 of them, say about their own religion and they say you are wrong

Am glad you asked, all those denominations you mentioned are all human expressions of what they feel is the right way to fellowship with their creator. Religion started with man and not with God. The true way of life is through one man Jesus and any doctrine of man that goes against the doctrines of Jesus will make the power and the benefits that comes from believing in Jesus of non effect in such a persons life. Do you know that Jesus has his doctrines, teachings and way of handling world issues too? Check out Mathew 7;28
And when it comes to atheist and other religion, i can tell you that Christianity is a unique doctrine and way of life from other religious belief systems, from Islam to Buddhism etc. You wana know how?

ifeness:
Christianity is not a religion? And who told you I copied and paste? Two points you got wrong there

Try and cross the origin of the word Christianity and what the word religion means, then you will get the picture clearer even without anyone explaining to you and try to do so with out prejudice of any form.

Op God is touching your heart to see things the way he sees it without the veil of religion covering your eyes. That poor boy you mentioned is a typical example of the example that Jesus gave about bearing one another burden and its quite unfortunate that our churches today will rather put marbles on already painted walls than support a less privileged in dire need of assistance. Tithing is a good thing if one understands the basis of it. If God is laying it in your heart, your tithing from now on could be to that boy and yes, you will still be doing the right thing and God will still love you, whether you pay your tithe in the first place or not. Many Christians today see tithe as just paying God off for the month and giving him his own share or your budget, probably because he may go broke if you don't, and i tell you, it profits those kinda people nothing. Tithing is meant to be willful and out of loving and grateful heart towards God and it could take various forms. If you are among those that think that your tithe triggers God to bless you, you are still living under the law. No one buys Gods blessings with money.

No need to give a sermon, if think otherwise, air your view and i will prove you wrong, just do so without resentment and use spiteful words.
If you agree, thank God for Jesus and the understanding about things like this. You can still make comments.
If you dont believe in God, i mean atheists, well you simply need Jesus, no arguments or proof about this or that, he is the only one that can change your heart and remove the veil from your eyes.
Jesus is amazing, just get to know him personally.

Your topic is misleading, who told you Christianity is a religion? Christianity is a way of life and its origin is in Christ Jesus. You can look up the meaning of religion and understand better. Stop copying and pasting or talking about stuffs you know nothing about.