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Christianity EtcRe: I Dont think u have ever think about This, Have You ?? by CANTICLES(op): 10:27am On Oct 22, 2014
honourhim:
You are just deceiving yourself. I ve quoted verses to show you your errors in a similar thread but you chose to wallow in your false teachings.
What is he saying , is that the answer to the question I asked !! Ur conscience is tellin you that your answer to that question may expose u , advocates of devil immortal soul " you (humans) shall surely not die" Gen 3:4 , that doctrine is a pure lie beacause Adam and Eve are nowhere to be found in the entire universe God said dey will ceased to exist completely, he confirms it saying " in the sweat of your face, u shall eat till you go back to the ground, for out of it you are taken, you are dust and to dust you shall return " Gen 3:19
Christianity EtcIS IT Mesage From God OR A Romantic Captivating Tactic?? by CANTICLES(op):
There is dis trend in christendom that always got me laughing .... The wooing styles of the so-called christendom blivers to capture themselves in marriage , dey will say : " sister theresa or brother feliz, The Lord showed it to me that you are my better half" !!! Lolz, when that one hears the lord, he/she go wan gree even though he or she neva likes him/her!! As a matter of scriptures God didnt show Eve to Adam in any kind of dream .... Infact none of those who got married in the Bible see their specific wife in dreams or vision !!!since dy av fallen in love, they are only fantasizin of such persons in their dreams, now counting it as statement from God ...have u noticed that tactic too ? What Do You Think ??
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 9:40am On Oct 22, 2014
shdemidemi:
Elucidate..I don't get your question
.... Ecclesistes 3:19 states plainly that man and animals (beast) have the same spirit in them ! So the question is: what does the bible refer to as the spirit in man and animals ??
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont think u have ever think about This, Have You ?? by CANTICLES(op): 9:08am On Oct 22, 2014
honourhim:
Engaging in foolish debate over this issue is a waste of precious time. Experience is the best teacher. Dont worry yourself, when you die(as we all will die someday), you will know whether you have believed and preached a lie or not. And I pity you if when you leave this world you discover that there is actually an afterlife, then sorry for you. Engaging in series of argument will not change what is on ground so why waste our time?
.... Nothing is on ground , every creature dies , " for He (God) well knows how we are formed, remembering that WE ARE DUST " !!! PSALM 103:14 ., remove the wool from ur eyes ; who is the "YOU" in genesis 3:19 ??
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 8:40am On Oct 22, 2014
shdemidemi:
If I say 'canticles spirit is willing but his body is unwilling'. I have succeeded in dividing canticles into two. Does that division really make him two, physically speaking?
..... What Is the spirit in man and animals ??
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 8:28am On Oct 22, 2014
shdemidemi:
My brother, we are talking spiritual oneness here, you are confusing your self with physical.
spiritual oneness ke ?? OMG, man - made ideas , whereas BIBLE spoke about " TWO Men" Two! Two! John 8: 17,18 ... Times without number the apostles separate them by saying " Blesed Be the God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ" 2cor 1:3, Ephesisan 1:3, 1pet 1:3 , E.t.c blessed be the father of Joseph , am i speaking of joseph himself? The intelligent ones know am speaking of Jacob ...... JEHOVAH is the MOST HIGH (PSALM 83:18), the " One God and father of all" Eph 4:16 .... While Christ is d " SON of the most high" luke 1:32
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 10:11pm On Oct 21, 2014
shdemidemi:
What bible are you quoting from?
john 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

This is what I have in my bible.

Brother, we are not talking about another man here, we are talking God who hangs the sun there in the sky, the all powerful God. Trying to limit Him to with your senses based on your own capabilities is undermining His absolute power.

Romans 8
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
.... uv said the son is also calling himself the father , thus he was lyin when he said somone sent him ( whereas he is the same person) , was An Hypocrite pretending to pray to God ( Whereas he was that God) , ... Thus, the bible contradicts itself by saying " blessed be the God and Father OF our lord Jesus Christ" 1pet 1:3 .. How can jesus av a God and father when he himself is the same God as uv claimed? !!! pls explain 1cor 15:23 - 28 for dis thread
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont think u have ever think about This, Have You ?? by CANTICLES(op): 9:48pm On Oct 21, 2014
BIBLESPEAKS:
Adam is the "you" in Gen 3:19 and not something inside him.
According to the Bible, when a man dies, he goes back to the dust where he was taken.
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont think u have ever think about This, Have You ?? by CANTICLES(op):
What most church goers fail to understand is that those who uphold the view that man is a spirit in flesh container are actually supporting The Devil .... Ask Why ? Ask dem what is spirit/soul they will say " its the real person" !! Okay, If Adam and Eve are spirit beings in flesh form , Satan will be right when he said to them " You Shall Surely Not Die" GEN 3:4 and indeed that theory shows d real demselves neva die as satan said , they only pull out their flesh like cloths ..... And so, live forever !!!! HAVE You believe this lie that u wont die and cease to exist as u are before ur birth until future resurection ?? This doctrine kills resurection of the dead totally
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont think u have ever think about This, Have You ?? by CANTICLES(op): 9:29pm On Oct 21, 2014
prekumohtim:
My dear , the only thing that's bigger than you is simply what you don't know. Man is a spirit & he lives in a body. God relates/communicates with your spirit not ur physical body. Your body is the house of ur spirit. There are many scriptures that dealt with this issue such as 2corithians 5:1-5. Even Jesus said to His disciples ," Don't be afraid of those wu can kill the body but cannot kill the spirit. But rather be afraid of God who can both kil ur body & render ur spirit useless". Read 1st thessalonia 5:23., 2corithians4:16, says though outward man (physical bodies perish due to persecution ) , yet the inward man(your spirit) is renewed day by day. Hebrew 4:12, 1corithians 14 :14. Proverb 20:27 says the spirit of man is the candle of the Lord , searching all the inward of the belly. Study to show ursef approved unto God 2timothy 2:15
What Is refered to as Spirit in man and animals ??
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont think u have ever think about This, Have You ?? by CANTICLES(op): 9:25pm On Oct 21, 2014
Alexk2:
bro., u re wrong...man is a spirit who lives in a body(container) and possess a soul
a scripture to support this claim pls,
the body is what dies and decay. it is the part that relate with the physical world.
The spirit never dies bt lives on after the body's death. It is d spirit that either goes to HELL or Heaven. The spirit is what relate with the spiritual world(we relate to God only through our Spirit).
what is the spirit in man ??

The soul is your conscience, mind.
this is not scriptural
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 8:09pm On Oct 21, 2014
shdemidemi:
Have you been reading me at all? I have not denied the human nature of God, it is you that denies His divinity.

There are biblical passages that explicitly assert His divinity, such as John 1:1, and other passages which imply His divinity by showing Him performing actions that only God can do: judging humanity, forgiving sin, healing people, and creating the cosmos.

At the same time, the early theologians upheld the full humanity of Jesus Christ. Scripture gives proof that Jesus was a human being, able to suffer, die, and experience weaknesses, both physical and emotional.

When “the Word became flesh” (John 1:14), He did not become two people (one divine and one human)
!!! Reason bro, 1timothy 5:21 was written after Christ has gone to heaven !!! Look at you, u quoted John1:1 " In the begining, the word was, and the Word was with God and d word was a god" can som1 be God and yet BE WITH God ?? Who spoke 4rm Heaven durin Christ Baptism ??
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 8:09pm On Oct 21, 2014
shdemidemi:
Have you been reading me at all? I have not denied the human nature of God, it is you that denies His divinity.

There are biblical passages that explicitly assert His divinity, such as John 1:1, and other passages which imply His divinity by showing Him performing actions that only God can do: judging humanity, forgiving sin, healing people, and creating the cosmos.

At the same time, the early theologians upheld the full humanity of Jesus Christ. Scripture gives proof that Jesus was a human being, able to suffer, die, and experience weaknesses, both physical and emotional.

When “the Word became flesh” (John 1:14), He did not become two people (one divine and one human)
!!! Reason bro, 1timothy 5:21 was written after Christ has gone to heaven !!! Look at you, u quoted John1:1 " In the begining, the word was, and the Word was with God" can som1 be God and yet BE WITH God ?? Who spoke 4rm Heaven durin Christ Baptism ??
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 8:01pm On Oct 21, 2014
[quote author=shdemidemi post=27337096]Have you been reading me at all? I have not denied the human nature of God, it is you that denies His divinity.

There are biblical passages that explicitly assert His divinity, such as John 1:1, and other passages which imply His divinity by showing Him performing actions that only God can do: judging humanity, forgiving sin, healing people, and creating the cosmos.

At the same time, the early theologians upheld the full humanity of Jesus Christ. Scripture gives proof that Jesus was a human being, able to suffer, die, and experience weaknesses, both physical and emotional.

When “the Word became flesh” (John 1:14), He did not become two people (one divine and one human), but He became one Person with two distinct natures, a fully divine nature and a fully human nature!!! blasphemy,Look at you, u quoted John1:1 " In the begining, the word was, and the Word was with God" can som1 be God and yet BE WITH God ?? Who spoke 4rm Heaven durin Christ Baptism ??
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 7:33pm On Oct 21, 2014
shdemidemi:
What else have I been saying, of course He is.
.... U are Flatly wrong, will u believe if christ said they are different ?? In Prayer Christ said to Father JEHOVAH " this means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, The Only True God *AND* of the one WHOM U SENT FORTH , Jesus Christ " John 17:3 .... " ..The witness of two men is true, I am one that bears witness about Myself, *AND* the father who sent me bears witness about me" - Joh 8:17,18 !!! Those scriptures are Not Rocket Science, but are truths u are not used to hearing , one more proof of different in personalty " I solemnly Charge you before God( Jehovah) *AND* Christ Jesus *AND* the chosen angels" 1tim 5:21 ! Here Shows that Jesus is diferent from the angels, so also different from God !!!
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont think u have ever think about This, Have You ?? by CANTICLES(op): 6:35pm On Oct 21, 2014
Can somone say who exactly that " You" refers to ??
Christianity EtcRe: "Why The So-called Christians Are Not Different From Pagan Greeks" by CANTICLES(op): 5:27pm On Oct 21, 2014
gise:
I can't rightly say but in Hebrew one is a soul a nefesh not so much you have soul man became a soul when air entered his lungs
.... Yes, in hebrew a man is a soul /nephe'sh/, not some sophisticated platonic ideas
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 4:40pm On Oct 21, 2014
I know where your darkness is ...... I need your response to dis question:: Is Jesus the same person called ' JEHOVAH' ??
shdemidemi:
Did you read my rebuttal? If you did, I will rather have you respond to that rather than make another blanket statement.
I know where your darkness is ...... I need your response to dis question:: Is Jesus the same person called ' JEHOVAH' ??
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES: 4:20pm On Oct 21, 2014
shdemidemi:
Where exactly do you get this hogwash from! It is ridiculous.

What exactly is the meaning of Lord?

Lord means owner.

How do you separate what Jesus owns from what God owns? Can I compare the Lordship of God/Jesus to a king or a man who owns a measured earthly kingdom?
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If Nebuchadnezzar was called king of kings by Daniel, how does that equal with Jesus who was never a physical king on earth and whose kingdom would have no boundary.

I like to know how Nebuchadnezzar's kingdom compare to the millennial kingdom that is to come.



Lord Jesus is the illuminator of light. John 8:12 while Matt 5:14 means we are the the witness for God.
stop that twisting !!!...U are in darknes
s to Truth, Jesus is an entirely different individual from the father , he stated to the Jews :"If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is the Father that glorifies me, he who you say is your God"- John 8:54 !He Clearly Distinguish Himself From JEHOVAH
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribasala On Trinity Doctrine by CANTICLES:
my brothers ..... The fact that the Father JEHOVAH[YHWH] is called " LORD" and yet the tiltle is applied to our Jesus Christ neva means they are of same rank .... If you tink they are ? U are Scripturaly lwrong, beacause ERROR 1: that will mean Jesus and king Nebuchadnezzar ar same person bcoz BOTH are called " king of kings" (Dan 2:37; Rev 17:14) ERROR 2: it will also mean Jesus disciples are ACTUALLY Jesus Christ beacause both are called " the light of the world" ( matt 5:14 ; Joh 8:12) ERROR 3: It Will also mean the twelve apostles are ACTUALLY Jesus Christ beacause BOTH are called " ...apostles" (heb 3:1; matt 10:2 ) !!! trinity is a scriptural blunder, when a title is found in more than one location in the scriptures IT SHOULD NEVA BE HASTILY CONCLUDED THAT IT REFER TO SAME PERSON !!! We should always consider the instances and context in the Bible where same expression occurs !! But we should all know that ' Jesus Stands at the right hand of God (named JEHOVAH)' -Act 7:55,56
Christianity Etc"Why The So-called Christians Are Not Different From Pagan Greeks" by CANTICLES(op):
"immortality of the soul is a Greek notion formed in ancient mystery cults and elaborated by the philosopher Plato" - Prebysterian Life, May 1, 1970, p.35. ...

With this knowledge, lets see what happen when the Apostle Paul tried preaching Ressurection to the GREEK in Anthens , the bible explain what happen this way " Now while Paul was waiting for them in Anthens ... They took hold of him and led him to Areopagus, Saying 'Can we get to know what this new teaching(resurection) is that you are speaking in our about? For you are introducing some things new to our ears'"

So paul speaks "... God ... Has provided a guarantee to all men by ressurecting Him ( Jesus) From dead" Act 17:16-31 !! The DRAMA UNFOLD in vrs 32 "Now when they heard of a resurection of the dead, some began to scoff, while others said 'we will hear you again about this' !! d future promise of Resurection sound foolish to the greeks who believe they av an imortal soul, nwadays churches advocate dis same pagan doctrine

Christianity EtcI Dont think u have ever think about This, Have You ?? by CANTICLES(op):
Genesis 3:19 reads " in the sweat of YOUR face YOU will eat bread until YOU return to the Ground, for out of it YOU were taken. For Dust YOU are and to dust YOU will return" ..... But som pple will tell you that this verse refer to Adam's Flesh only to prove religious afterlife:::: but the question remains: WHO IS THE YOU IN THIS VERSE ?
Christianity EtcRe: Science Has Proven There Is Consciousness After Death by CANTICLES: 3:19pm On Oct 19, 2014
Is this not the same people that said the earth is flat somtimes ago , ... The point is science can be faulty many times !!! But before they claim the earth is a solid circle (sphere) , scripture has already prove that in Isaiah 40:22 , So Here is the Authentic Prove from God himself ? " the living know that they will die, but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all .. All that your hands find to do, do with your very power for there is no knowledge nor wisdom in grave, the place to which you are going" Ecc 9:5,10
Christianity EtcRe: If A Christian Dies Unbaptize Will The Person Go To Hell ? by CANTICLES: 3:01pm On Oct 19, 2014
ROSSIKE:
You do not cease to exist when you die. Quite to the contrary you regain more of your self than you had as an earthling.
.... Where were you before birth ?? Nowhere , where is Adam before his creation ?? He never exist, Death refers to ceasing to exist....... By saying a person do not cease to exist when they die , u only vocalize the Devils false statement " you (humans) shall surely not die" Gen 3:4 !!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Is David Running Away From Wicked King Saul ?? by CANTICLES(op): 11:55am On Oct 19, 2014
babyphaze77:
Was religion created in the old testament or new testament. Religion is not in the bible. So David running away from King Saul wasn't related to religion. Dats common sense called wisdom.
.... The opposite of living is Dead !! David knew this, so he uses common sense and avoid that thing called " grave" ! So definitely, u are expressin the opinion that religion of world is indeed fooling mankind with this doctrine of somtin in man going straight to heaven afta death ?
Christianity EtcWhy Is David Running Away From Wicked King Saul ?? by CANTICLES(op): 10:50am On Oct 19, 2014
Religions of nowadays said if a Righteous person dies , he will automatically go to heaven ::::: so why is Young David running away from king Saul ? Aftrall he wuld av waited for saul to av killed him and thus he will be in heaven !!! But if he was Running away for his life.... Is That Not A Prove that religion is fooling mankind ?? Ur opinion pls
Christianity EtcRe: How To Know You Are A Christian: 10 Traits Of A True Christian by CANTICLES: 10:34am On Oct 19, 2014
@op
U forget to add something vital which many so-called christians av neglect and have failed woefully in doing, preaching the "goodnews of Gods Kingdom" Matt 24:14, From " House To House" Act 5:42, 20:20
Christianity EtcRe: " FINALLY REVEALED : God's View On Birthday Celebration" by CANTICLES(op): 6:29am On Oct 18, 2014
Wow ..... "the Early Christians did not celebrate Jesus [birthday] beacause they considered the celebration of anyone's birthday to be of a pagan custom"- The World Book Encyclopedia !!! Due to this reasons, Jehovah's Witnesses Shun Pagan custom and ideas not founded by early christians , what relationship is between Christ and pagan customs ? 2 cor 6:14-18 ...including the fact that the ONLY TWO REFERENCES MADE TO THE CELEBRATION IN THE SCRIPTURES ARE BOTH SINNERS ! Everyone is entitled to his own beliefs But Jehovah's witnesses strive to follow Bible Standards
Christianity EtcRe: " FINALLY REVEALED : God's View On Birthday Celebration" by CANTICLES(op): 10:20pm On Oct 17, 2014
Bidam:
OT was written for you it wasn't written TO YOU..do well to read the OT in the LIGHT of the the NT. What did Paul has to say to the corinthians..Read and learn..no where in the NT scripture that says having birthday is sin..I DOULBE DARE YOU TO SHOW ME.
, Nothing Like Old Testament , thats tradition of men to make the word Of God invalid ..... What we have is the Inspired Hebrew and Greek Scriptures !!! 1pet 2:21 says "Christ leave a model for u to follow closely" and neither Christ Nor His Apostles Celebrate their Birthdays !!! To show you that they dont av such thought , of the 4 writers of Christ Ministry Only matthew and Luke make brief statement about his birth WHILE MARK AND JOHN SAID NOTHING ABOUT HIS BIRTH.
Christianity EtcRe: " FINALLY REVEALED : God's View On Birthday Celebration" by CANTICLES(op): 9:31pm On Oct 17, 2014
A Practice Common to the egyptians , Even that of Pharaoh was recorded , neva forget this instruction " you must not behave as they do in the land of Egypt .... And you must not walk in their statutes" lev 18:3 !!!!
Christianity EtcRe: " FINALLY REVEALED : God's View On Birthday Celebration" by CANTICLES(op):
Bidam:
Never mind! Can you show us in scripture where it is a sin to celebrate someones birthday?
you wanna use a Smoker's tactic of claimin innocence , dey will say : " show me the scripture that says Smoking Cigarette is a sin??" ..... But u are failing to realize that there are many times in our decisions in life that we need to " Reasoned from the scriptures" Act 17:2 By doing this , many religions av now abandoned the custom of celebrating Christ birthday on Dec 25, Reasearch also indicate its from a pagan source of the roman sun-god!!! As its clearly showed that only pagan kings celebrate their individual birthdays in d scriptures
Christianity EtcRe: " FINALLY REVEALED : God's View On Birthday Celebration" by CANTICLES(op): 8:13pm On Oct 17, 2014
Bidam:
So do you now agree with the MSG translation? Let's start from there.
Its Not Correct .... Apostle Paul states what is written clearly in Psalm 2:7 Clearly In Hebrews 5:5 !!! Everyone is born on a particular date, But the idea of Celebrating it on a yearly basis is bought from Pagans NOT Christianly

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