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The FOLLY of afterlife; nobody wanna die

SisterMe:
Acts 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

Did you expect Peter to say he was alive physically? that would be a lie as he was not on earth at that time.

Acts 13:36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption

what does it mean to see corruption ?? To decay , to decompose ..... David see corruption !!! Here is one scripture that u forget to quote , is it bcoz it hit the nail on the head ?? Act 2:34 " For david did not ascend to the heavens " !!! This is not rocket science ! Its just a truth u are not use to hearing .

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SisterMe:
I believe your question is in bad faith but I will answer nonetheless.

It is not good people that go to heaven but those who have made a covenant with God by sacrifice. The key here is the covenant which is entered into by a blood sacrifice. In the old testament that blood sacrifice was of animals. In the new testament it is of Christ. King David was among the old testament saints Jesus took with Him to heaven at His resurrection, regardless of his sin with Bathsheba.

syntax Error: Act 2:29,34 and Act 13:36 states clearly that King David didnt " ascend to heaven" , he is still in the grave !!! And this was written many years afta Davids Death and Jesus ressurection !! So pls ,Revise again Act 2:29,34 and Act 13:36 and know the truth about the dead !

mhizcovy:
hmmn now i no ignorance kills .....can u read psalm 37vs 9-11 n 29...also Isaiah 65 vs21-25 ..rev 21 vs 3 n 4 .Isaiah 35 vs 5 n 6 .n lastly Isaiah 33vs 24 ....read and meditate pls ..den ask me ur questions.... u might unfortunately discover through D's scriptures some loopholes in ur tynkin which u haven't detected..

Thanks My Sister .... Can God Lie ?? Of course not, here is a prophecy in psalm 37:29 that will surely be fulfilled at Gods due time , " the righteous shall possess the earth and they shall live forever on it" !! -psalm 37:29 !! Satan has used christendom to block this truth from people so that they will think God is a wicked being that will permit wickedness on earth forever , whereas " just a little while longer, the wicked shall be no more .... But the meek will possess the earth" psalm 37:9-11

voltron:
They already have an answer. God has taken her to a better place. He has it all in his plans before she was born, got pregnant, delivered and died. Perhaps God has seen future evil in the husband's life and was taking precaution

" Certainly, God does not act wickedly" job 34:12 !! He doesnt plan such, he doesnt foreknow all things though he has d power to do so, he uses " self - control" , the same way he power us to also imitate him by using "self- control ( Gal 5: 22,23) , Rather Than Plan Such Evil , He Promises A Joyful Time On Earth When " He Will wipe out tears from every eyes, and death will be no more" Rev 21:4 , and also promise to ressurect to life the billions that are now in d graves bcoz " there is going to be a resurection" Act 24:15 !!! Thats d goodnews from God ! The present world condition is caused by the present ruler of the world ,"Devil" 1joh 5:19 !But One Day , Satan will be no more , bcoz he has a very "Short Time "Rev 12:12

Abraham2013:
I tink d op twisted d story to make it look like d woman died out of shortage of blood. Buh d truth is dat its d infection dat killed d woman more dan blood shortage cos no wan can survive severe blood shortage 4 up to a month. in as much as am not a JW, I tink patients right should be respected all d time.

Thanks for noticing the bolded

My Own Question::: , since we are told that all good people av a duplicate copy that go to heaven when they die, IS KING "DAVID" IN HEAVEN ??

My Own Question::: , since we are told that all good people go to heaven when they die, IS KING DAVID IN HEAVEN ??

SisterMe:
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and since God is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit is Jehovah God Himself. Without this Holy Spirit, you are not the Body of Christ for by this one Spirit we are baptised into one body.
The Holy Spirit is a person.

The Spirit of Christ is the same as the Spirit of God.

Jesus Christ is the Jehovah God of the old testament.

Then uv create many problems in the bible already and uv maked it contradictory !! Since holyspirit is a person, and matthew 1:18 says " Mary was pregnant by the holyspirit" thus as a person, it actually sexed mary ( som angels also do it&giv birth to nephilim) ... Thus holyspirit is d father of Jesus !! Look at You , Jesus pray ?? To whom , to himself ?? Then he is an hypocrite who merely pretends to pray, who lied dat somone sent him, when he is d person!! If dey ar all same person, Wat hapen to the father&holyspirit when d son dies 4 three days?? .....All dis trinitarian dogma is all pagan stuff

I Read times without number how pastors gave out offerin money to arm robbers TO SAVE THEIR LIVE , AND AVOID DEATH !!! ..

I also see the so-called christians givin testimonies of how God save their lives from a particular danger !! Then i wonder " why should you thank God for taking away such a golden opportunity for you to be in heaven ;Just a gun shot&u are there !!" .

It wasnt long b4 i got the clue , i notice that if people have a good paying Job , Awesome car , nice house , comforting family ...They dont wanna talk about death !!!

If u tell such a rich &comfortable man "he will die tommorow" he will either curse u back or accuse u of cursin him ,is dat a curse ? Well its a curse bcoz there is one truth we all lack ,my mind went bak to my neighbours word,i cant just bliv its in the Bible "A Live dog is better off than a dead lion" Ask WHY?? It answers "for the living know that they will die;" but, pls relax as d truth explode...."AS For the dead, they know nothing at all"Ecc 9:4,5,10

I was still very young when i heard a neighbour says : " A Living Dog is better than a dead lion" !! As a young child, i ponder on those words but didnt understand , IT WAS While i started growin up that i came to realize the meaning of that statement ,

I NOTICED that since to go to America, a person must obtain a VISA , and i see people doing anything to obtain it.... Yet i was also told that to go to heaven, the Visa is death !!! But my people dont wanna die.

I see the so-called religious leaders doing anything to receive the best medical treatment !! I Read thru news about how many people will exchange anything on behalf of their lives.

Armed robbers attack and u will see our people saying "sir , i will give you anything! I mean anything! Just SPARE OUR LIVES!" and that one will reply in an angry voice " where is the money, u collected yesterday"the family head will answer " #stammering with an high racing heartbeat# ittsss inside the bedroommm o"!! Even the so-call religious ones ar guilty of dis

Can a lady present a fiancee with a gallas haircut to her God-fearing parents ?? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Can you attend a job interview with a gallas or other weird haircut in the presence of a disciplined employer ??

::::::::::::::: Imagine Police Chasing A Thief Or Raiding Suspects In An area , what comes to their mind once they see a guy with a very weird haircut ?? Suspect !!!

:::::::::::::::::::: Infact, There Are Times In our higher institutions that it happens such that, what attracted secret society to a targeted guy is his weird haircut !!!

johnydon22:
so moses and elijah are in the grave but still came to meet jesus at the mountain (matthew 17) ... hahahahahaha see contradictions oo.
.. i thought they were in a state of non-existence... waiting to see your next fabrication full of fallacy

its a pity this is what christendom turn you to ....... Remove the wool from ur eyes , the transfiguration is just a " Vision" Matt 17:9

johnydon22:
y'all are the most confused people in the world... none of you even know what you are talking about....... i ask again abraham and the rest who died before christ came just went into a state of non-existence

Of course, They are all in d graves (even King David Act 2:29,34)), awaiting a ressurection !! U make me wonder if u exist before u were born ??

johnydon22:
y'all are the most confused people in the world... none of you even know what you are talking about....... i ask again abraham and the rest who died before christ came just went into a state of non-existence

They are all in d graves (even King David Act 2:29,34)), awaiting a ressurection !! U make me wonder if u u exist before u were born ??

johnydon22:
lol so abraham, samuel and others that died before jesus came died like animals right?

am happy that u realise that livin forever is not for animals , But unfortunately man lost dat gift and thus was " short lived" Job 14:1 , but u fail to reaiize the love of God in this regard when he sent his only begotten son to die for the sin of mankind , and thus anyone exercising faith and following God's command (john 3:16) can once again have that prospect that adam lost , " for death came thru one man ( Adam) and ressurection of the dead came thru another man ( Jesus) " 1cor 15:21 .... The people u mentioned have this hope of a ressurection from d sleep of death ; Beacause " there is going to be a ressurection" Act 24:15

Concerning apostates, this is it : " now in the way that Jan'nes and Jam'bres resisted Moses, so these also go on resisting the truth, men completely corrupt in mind, dissaproved as regards the faith" .... " Nevertheless, they will make no further progress, for their madness will be plain to all" 2 tim 2:8,9 !!! Wow, Thats just it , or what else could make somone refer to 5 different Guyz as one person if not madness ??

Many will strongly say " NO" but I wonder if they av become each other's enemy !!! Others will say " YES" but I Wonder If The memory wont keep playin like a cinema in their brains as they attend the ceremony ::::::: SO, ur opinion , Can u attend the wedding of ur ex ??

dadaadec:
will really be glad if this question can be analyze without any sentiment coz am so confused about it! if God and Joseph dnt have long hair, The apostle Paul said it was a shame for a man to have long hair because the male is made in the image of God ....

Notice the bolded, that already shows Christ doesnt have such a hair .... But the religious practices of today are spiritually sick for acceptin such as d general picture of Christ!! The same way they accept the fictional hell theory of the catholic church who also change hebrew word for Grave/Sheo'l/ to hell, Greek Hade's (grave) to hell ,Greek Gehenn'a (hebrew Gehinno'm) wich is the valley of hinnom &known today as Wadi er- Rababi in Jerusalem as hell too ....Funny enough , greek Tartarus wich mean a condition of deepest darkness respecting God's bright purposes ! Was also rendered "hell" in 2pet 2:4 ! They are in hell yet they ar reserved for judgement. ...As in All dis religious tins ar all pagan stuff

Dayvhid:
anyone with a valid explanation because i see no reason why a god would just decide to destroy a whole family just to prove.

a friend of urs came from the UK and visits u , on his visit he called ur son aside and told him : " your dad is a fool, i learnt he sent u to Funaab ..... Why Cant He Sent You to a private university?, why cant he sent to u to Babcock university or Bowen University Or Send U Abroad .. U are missin alot BUT if u can live with me , all this will be addressed&u will fly higher in life" !!! Hearin this the son starts grumbling around , BRO if such a father didnt giv d boy THE CHANCE to live with his friend .... No matter where he goes in life , he wont be complete,even if he is d president of World Bank,he will erroneously feel life wuld av been better if he follow his father's friend !!So Somtimes som things need to be proved ,Satan Takes Job Property::: chalenge Job's integrity in front of many Angels & Job av chance to falsify Satan's claim

ojimbo:
do you know how many people that were killed in your bible, directed by your bible God? to the extent of telling them not to spare the innocent children

Read more , this people that are killed are wicked beings ... Can you imagine that they " even burn their sons and their daughters to their gods" Deu 12:31 , Nevertheless God notice the good ones among them , the people of Nineveh were spared when dey repent , infact Rahab the prostitute is also spared with her family !!! To be honest , do u know why Jonah ran away when God sends him to the people of Nineveh , He says its beacause " He knew he is a compassionate and merciful God, Slow To anger and abundant in loyal love, one who feel grieved over calamity" Jonah 4:2 !! He pardoned the people of Nineveh ...... But I Dont Blame U Though, u av been misinformed with the catholic fictional hell doctrine that has no basis in the Original Hebrew and Greek writings of the scriptures

ojimbo:
how do you mean they died of ignorance, So they should have allowed boko haram to kill us all?

Am very sorry my brother , Am trying to explain the goodnews about them , my words is based on the Bibles Word " Thou Shall Not Kill" ..... Once again " Am sorry"

okeke00:
am just thinking of those soldiers who recently lost their lives in the fight against boko haram. they fought for our lives and safety and yet people still go to media to criticize them, calling them all sort of names.

many of this soldiers died in a course they taught they are doing for God , remember that " Adam brings death .... But Ressurection from that dead state is made possible by Jesus " as stated in 1 cor 15:21 !!! Interestingly , " there is going to be a ressurection of the righteous and the unrighteous" Act 24:15 notice unrighteous ones are mentioned to be ressurected in the future , this include the billions of Soldiers who have ignorantly died in wars, NOT wilful sinners whom we remain perished in their death state Joh3:16!! But dis soldiers will wake up to Judgment Day,this day is not a literal 24hrs day but a long period of time as stated in 2pet 3:8,A glorious Day When The Whole World Will LEARN Righteousness ( Isa 26:9)

okeke00:
am just thinking of those soldiers who recently lost their lives in the fight against boko haram. they fought for our lives and safety and yet people still go to media to criticize them, calling them all sort of names.

many of this soldiers died in ignorance and in a course they taught they are doing for God , remember that " Adam brings death .... But Ressurection from that dead state is made possible by Jesus " as stated in 1 cor 15:21 !!! Interestingly , " there is going to be a ressurection of the righteous and the unrighteous" Act 24:15 notice unrighteous ones are mentioned to be ressurected in the future , this include the billions of Soldiers who have ignorantly died in wars, NOT wilful sinners whom we remain perished in their death state !!! This soldiers will wake up to Judgment Day, this day is not a literal 24hrs day but a long period of time as stated in 2pet 3:8 , A glorious Day When The Whole World Will Learn Righteousness ( Isa 26:9 )

okeke00:
what I don't really understand is the doctrine of me still going to end up everlasting in a lake of fire even after Jesus died for my sins.

Wait! If Jesus didnt come to save mankind, what will happen to us ?? Dead of course , so did God plan that we live for few years and den die ?? No , to amend this " God sent his only- begotten son ... That whosoever believe in him might not perish But have everlasting life" John 3:16 ! Notice it says ' whosoever belive in him' so if you believe that God sent Jesus as a tool to save mankind from dying like animals, you wuld follow his commandment and thereby receive the " gift" of everlasting life ( rom 6:23) but those who refuse will remain in death state(rom6:23) ! As for lake of fire , bro revelation is written in 'signs' rev1:1 , the scripture indicate that anything that goes into d symbolic lake of fire CEASE TO Exist ( death is thrown into lake of fire ( Rev20:14) EXPLAINED: death cease to exist ( Rev 21:4))[/quote]

BRO, there is nothing wrong with u if u question religion, Habakkuk questions God about som thngs he doesnt understand ( hab 1:3) infact Jesus said " keep on asking and it shall be given to you; keep on seeking, and you will find" Matt 7:7 so free ur mind ,

okeke00:
I was brought up to to understand that Jesus Christ came and died for my sins.

Good

I am a human and can't be perfect,

Of Course, u are living in a world ruled by Devil (1joh5:19)

I do fall in love with my opposite sex and there is 90% probability

Jesus Death makes it possible to withstand this beacause he sent the holyspirit to help you cope, Christ knows we are human and Gods spirit will giv u a fruit called " self-control" Gal 5:22-24[/quote]

Honestly, I just smiled ..... Since when i was young i know Jesus is the way ! But as I grew up in my study of the Bible av had a closer bond with the person that Jesus way leads to ! ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH " The One God and father of all" eph 4:16 , infact i also know that '' Christ himself belongs to God' 1 cor 3:23 !!! Just as Jehovah is " his father and our father , our God and his God" John 20:17 !!! Infact , I know that Christ has been existing some many years B4 d world with the Great God Jehovah ,but Was Christ Created?? Honestly Speaking ... " He (christ) is the beginning of Creation By God" Rev 3:14 !!! But yet i knew JEHOVAH used our lord Jesus Christ to create the world , But I ADMIRE that despite this priviledge,our lord Jesus Christ applauds creation to the Father ( Matt 19:4-6) And Neva think of equating with God (phi 2:5,6) I Also Knew He Was a witness of his father Jehovah, He was called the "faithful and true witness" Rev 3:14! If U Are Not A Jehovah's Witness ... Whose witness ar u, satan ??

Dont u tink God is great .... What if our females lay eggs like hens ??

malvisguy212:
the bible dos no specifically say david infant child went to heaven,but common sens will tell us were the child went, this is what david say" I shall go to him, but he
shall not return to me" david is a men chosen by God,david know the child is in heaven that why he make such statment.

thanks for ur comment , but sometimes common sense can be Misleading though sometimes it can be right BUT not in dis case , where is the dead child ?? Scripture answers " as for the dead, they know nothing at all .... For there is no knowledge nor wisdom in d grave where u are going" ecc 9:5,10 !! Where did it say the dead are going ? GRAVE , .. Infact, David himself did not go to heaven, yeeeesssss he is also in the Grave awaiting a resurection ( pure fact Act 2:29,34)

malvisguy212:
bible say,our God is a righteous judge,the infante are not in the stage of reasoning or knowledge,God will not just throw innocent children to hell,the day a woman who abort a child ,she repent and go to heaven,the child will be the first to welcome her.
King David had a child by Bathsheba which died in infancy.
David's words are significant: "While the child was yet alive, I
fasted and wept; for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be
gracious to me, that the child may live? But now he is dead, why
should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me" (2 Samuel 12:22-23).

The clear sense of this
passage is that David believed that he would be reunited with his
child in the next life. He knew the baby, having died, could not
come back to this life, but he believed that he would go to him.

I like u for admiring the good qualities of God, But acording to scripture, where did davids child go ??

malvisguy212:
they will make it to heaven.Some reasons for reaching such a conclusion are as follows:
1. The Lord Jesus Christ died for all of Adam's race (for all mankind), including every infant that has ever been born.
2. A person is condemned for rejecting Jesus Christ and for refusing to believe in Him: "He that believeth on Him is not condemned; but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the Name of the only begotten Son of God" (John 3:18). An infant is not capable of rejecting Jesus Christ. An infant is incapable of committing the sin mentioned in John 16:9.
3. Infants have not willfully disobeyed the gospel. Note: The heathen, who are not under the hearing of the gospel, are condemned for rejecting the lesser revelation (Rom.1:20-21)

u tried bro .. But "unless any Man is born of water and spirit,he cant enter the kingdom of God" John3:5 are they?? And uv automatically validate abortion as proper salvation Tool

And did scripture say "Goliath now dies, and was sent to hellfire " , or say " after this, david and the isrealites rejoice that their enemy goliath and the thousands of philistines are burning in hellfire" ?? .................................... Why would it even say such when it already clarify that " as for the dead, they know nothing at all , for there is no knowledge or wisdom in the Grave (hebrew /sheo'l/ greek /hade's/) where you are going" Ecc 9:5,10 !!!so therefore, Bible simply say " David .... Struck the philistine down and put him to death" and knowing Goliath is a waste already " David cut Goliath head off" ! 1samuel 17:51,52