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Once Again , I SAID read the whole scripture and u will found out that no bible character is condemned to such a cruel action, (dont forget dat God has already said mankind will huzzle and struggle till dey die, no mention of afterlife huzzling ( Gen 3:19)) : lets take some example , Scriptures Say Adam "died" , Eve " died" , The People Of Noah's Day " Died" in flood, Joseph brodas " died" , Pharaoh " Died" inside d sea, the isrealites dat brought bad news " died" in d wilderness , Isrealites kill d philistines and dey " died" , Goliath "Died" , King Ahab " Died" , King Saul " Died" ...Judas Iscariot commit suicide&" died" , anaiah&saphirah " died" ! Many more .... Was anyone of dem said to go for extra torture in afterlife ? Nooo , if u say " yes" its blasphemy&uv added to God Word wich warns " Do not go beyond what is written" 1 cor 4:7! Clearly,d penalty for sin is" the wages of sin is death" rom 6:23 ! Death, death!..but d righteous av resurection hope due to Christ Ransom By Our Lovin God (1 Cor15:21

The doctrine of eternal torment by a cruel god who roast his creatures like suya meat has turned many people to Atheism and Agnosticism ... No wonder atheist ranked 3rd besides christians and muslims , and many more are to join atheism ,so far Devil still use dis doctrine to make the Almighty God an hypocrite , who told us to love our enemies but yet roast and torture his own enemies,no wonda so called christians curse their enemy,BAD! Infact even d human government found it crazy to burn a criminal inside the incinerator!The greatest judgement in d constitution is "Death Sentence" (cuttin off from d society)!.....Here is the truth : The most profound fact is that our 1st father and mother were neva warned about such a thing ,if u say dey are warned of eternal torment am callin u a liar&u av Ph.D In lying affairs ! Bcoz such is neva writen in d scriptures !!! God only warned them of a death sentence " in the day thou eat thereof, ye shall surely die" Gen 3:17! Its death ( oposite of been alive Isa 26:14)!

If God had knew they would sin ... He wont be called " Love" because "Love does not behave indecently .... It does not rejoice over unrighteousness" 1cor 13:5,6 or what wuld u tink of a parent Who provide evrytin his daughter needs at school but went ahead to set - up a man to impregnate her and confuse her academics, Is dat love ? ... God is not such, He is "Love" 1john 4:8 ! The Genesis Account Record An Event that probably led to the existence of that tree in Gen 1:11,12 When God command the earth to bring out trees of all sort , the earth obeyed dis command but since we all know the earth itself possess some powers ( Gen 4:12) we ar not suprised about the tree comin out with other trees dat sprout up from the earth surface .... But instead of waiting till God do somtin about the tree itself, our enemy came and lure our parents to sin wich eventually leads to death ! God shows his LOVE to d offspring by sendin Jesus Christ ( john 3:16) ! Wit dat we now av an hope of resurection even if we die ( act 24:15

# Continue# ...... And did the man raised by paul claim to av visited heaven or hell as preached today ? Did he make any statement of such ? Did he started scarin evryone around wit hell theory?? Are we denyin d fact found in Ecclesistes 9:5,10 ?? ..... The guy was raised back alive, so who says there is no resurection ! The Bible teach future resurection as d only hope for the dead ( John5:28,29, Act 24:15) not the devil theory of immortal soul dats says human dont die, its only the flesh dat die ... Did Jesus Die?? Or Its Only His Flesh Dat Die?? If Its just flesh den d real Jesus didnt die? Dats so crazy! Wait, if Jesus Himself Didnt Die .... Can The World Be Saved?? Or Didnt U know christ " tasted DEATH for everyone" Heb 2:9 ?? ( Read ezekiel 18:4,20 And compare God statement in Genesis 2:17 with Devil statement in Gen 3:4)

Can u comand with the president's voice if u ar not the president? Definitely no, u must be d president before u av such priviledge!!! Now lets dig truth from the scripture ! Arch - angel means " the head of all angels" or the most superior angel ! Ar u following ?? Micheal was said to be an " Arch- Angel" wich is *singular* (one person), But the post of Arch-angel is mostly given to our Lord Jesus .... Dont be suprised " ... The Lord himself will descend from heaven, with a Commanding call, with an ARCHANGEL'S VOICE " 1the 4:16 .. This shows Jesus voice is dat of an Archangel! Scripture support he is the Arch-angel Micheal ! Aftrall Peter is also known as Simon ( Matt 10:2) , Jacob is also known as Isreal ( Gen 49:1,2) so its not unusual for someone to have two names

Isaiah 45:18 where God said he formed the earth to be inhabited to be unreal , Ecclesisates 1:4 to be rubbish , The New Earth mentioned in 2pet 3:13 to be illegal ....... Will we start believing the scripture for once?? ....! Actually, the truth is that those scriptures are correctly Inspired Of God .... Two hope await true christians ! Ressurection To Everlastin life in Heaven OR EARTH ; " All Scripture is inspired of God" 2tim 3:16 ! Do U Believe the scripture, the word of God ? Or u call dem nonsense , lies and rumours bcoz of a doctrine left handed to us by an apostate church ?

Lets visualize a man who narrowly escaped been killed by armed robbers ... but went ahead to thanking God , Do U Think its wise if He Sud Thank God? Aftrall God has taken away his opportunity to die and go to heaven ..... Tell such a man dat u wish he sud av die and go to heaven? its sure he may neva greet u again, infact u ar dating his son or daughter he wuld break d relationship if he is probably his/her parent bcoz u make such statement; so he doesnt wanna die ! ..Wait,its clear we av a serious problem, we will do well to ask: Is HEAVEN THE ONLY REWARD FOR CHRISTIANS ?? ! If u reply yes ,

uv automatically render psalm 37:9-11 to be nonsense , psalm 37:29 to be false , Jesus statemet in Matt 5:5 to be a joke, Jesus prayer in matt 6:9 for God will to be done on earth in d future to b a daydream ... Proverb 2:21,22 to b nonsense Isaiah 65:17 wich talks about a new earth to be a rumour , Heb 2:5 wich talks about a comin inhabited earth to be a lie , God own statement in Rev 21:3-5 to be untrue

Pagan Trinity: god impregnate a virgin girl to give birth to himself then sacrifice himself to save you from himself ! ... Catholic And Protestants Says: To us there is One God, the Trinity ...... But SCRIPTURE says: " For us there is One God, the Father" 1 Cor 8:5,6 ! Whom did Christ refer to as the only True God in John 17:3 ? ..... True worshippers will worship ONLY the " Father" John 4:23! Not som absurd trinity

alexleo: Forget all your false stories bro. You are a deceiver. Stop interpreting the bible with sentiments and emotions. Only cheap minds who hates bitter truth and loves sweet falsehood will believe your gospel of deceit.

..... I Expect You To Have Taken Your Time To Read From The Beginnig, But U Didnt ; If U Av Sincerely Done So, it would av capture you like lightening because its the TRUTH!!

alexleo: The guy needs help.

..... Really , am not suprised with ur comments , U are still among those whom have been trained to kill and torture their enemies ! Do u love ur enemies ? Certainly not ! U tink God is so shallow minded as such .... TRUTH: u dont just quote some verse blindly, u av to Be like d Apostles, Who " REASONING from the scripture" Act 17:2

Isaiah 34: 9,10 reads concerning the city of Edom" Her streams will be changed into pitch, And her dust into sulphur, And her land will become like burning pitch ... BY NIGHT OR BY DAY IT WILL NOT BE EXTINGUISED, ITS SMOKE WILL KEEP ASCENDIN FOREVER. From Generation to generation she will remain devastated" ! Can u see d folly of takin tinz literally ... 4 my billion euro, i ask: was d city of Edom thrown into anythin like helfire? Dats absurd... I Ask Again: " Is Fire Still Burning On the site of ancient EDOM" ? It ceased burning and d smoke went off many years ago! Its high time will dig deep into the scriptures ... What does dis sign or symbol mean ? Scripture explains it will bcom " empty .... Desolate ... Come to nothing "! Isa 34:11,12 ...dats it! Up till date d city of Edom ceased to exist ! Ruin, Empty ..Destroyed! Dat symbol indicate total destruction 4rm the universe " The siners wil vanish from the earth, &the wicked will no longer exist" ps 104:35... To cease to exist! { Jeremiah 25:17,32,33}

peteregwu: Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 14:10 The same shall drink ..mixture into the cup of his indignation; &he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

.... Scripture shows d cup&wine is NOT literal, what make u tink d torment is literal? ..ar u wit ur bible , pls dust it off , we are nw talkin about the deep things of God! Can you see dat dis same statement was found in Isa 34:9,10 about d land of EDOM!!! Open ur bible and let d scripture explain itself

peteregwu: So what do say to this verse in the bible? The bible says the smoke of their torment rose up forever and ever.


Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 14:10 The same shall drink of the Wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;.

...... I Can See uv neva been told dat the book of revelations was written and presented in signs ( read Rev 1:1) dats d truth ! With dat background in mind ... Do u tink d wine of God mention in dis verse is literal ? So God manufacture wine or what ? Absurdity! ... Can u see d folly of takin Jesus word literal? Its time u guys think! Think! Think! Let d scripture Explain Itself, what is dis cup of wrath? Isaiah 51: 17-19 says Jerusalem will drink it ... Vrs 19 says it means destruction! Destruction! Devastation!Not som everlastin life in hell

walex2bad: It's optional.. You have the choice to make.. Either you are for him or against him..

John 3:16 says, 'For God SO love the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have eternal life'. The only thing you have to do to avoid going to hell is to believe in the Son Jesus.
Everybody can make heaven if they want to. But so many people have been so blinded by Ignorance.

.... Correction: the scripture u quoted says " might not *perish* but av everlasting life" ... D word perish refers to " death" " cease to exist" ! When somtin perish it ceases to exist psalm 146:4 says a dead man " returns to d ground that day his thoughts perish " ! Meaning his thoughts ceased! " wages of sin is *death*"Rom6:23.So dont mingle anythin hell of torment into it ; e.g Ar u followin d comandment dat we sud love our enemies by roasting dem? NO, " God is Love" 1joh4:8! Not hypocrite&worst than Hitler has christendom painted him wit hell doctrine

peteregwu: hahaha....hmmm...people like that are just deceivers.

....This Is the truth, and it will overcome you! Take it literal & make psalm 37:25 as a lie since lazarus begs 4 food; Take d rich man and lazarus as literal real story and contradict John 3:16 dats says Jesus must die before anyone av eternal life, take it literal and u are provin dat Christ statement in John 3:13 is false ! Ar u sayin Jesus Is Lying? ..... TRUTH! Lazarus and the rich man remains a Parable as d prodigal son (matt 13:34,35) ! Infact , am tellin u at dis moment dat Abraham mentioned in that parable is dead awaitin a resurection! ABRAHAM IS DEAD AND NOT IN HEAVEN! DEAD ! JOHN 8:53, JOHN 3:13, dust off ur bible&read dat straight in d scriptures ..Once again ,NO one is resurected to heaven before Jesus Christ ( 1Cor 15:23, Rev 1:5) do u bliv dis scripture? Dats Basic christianity 101! Thats d Truth ur pastor wont tell u; be lik d beroans who examine d scriptures carefully and the Truth will set u free!!

Note: King Pharaoh is not a Man Of God but a PAGAN ..... Even dat day he commited murder! Rili? Murder during a birthday party! .... The second one recorded was King Herod Birthday Party; Note: King Herod is not a man of God But a PAGAN ... Am Callin U Out All Professed Christians , To Reason! Dont close ur bible yet! Lets read the account of Pagan King Herod Birthday in Matt 14:6-10 " when herods birthday was been celebrated" ! Let me sumarise , dat day his daughter dance so well and dis lead to the Killing of JOHN D BAPTIST! U min christians are still continuin a celebration dat led to d death of John D Baptist! Dats D Prove from d scriptures . 4 my trillion euro .. Will u, my listener lick a sweet picked from a dirty smellin gutter?If No, Y Join in celebratin birthday party which have a pagan origin? ... Hw will u feel if u see som1 lick a sweet from gutter? Disgusting ryt ..hw do u want God to view u from above ?? " the day of ones death is better than the day of birth" Ecclesiastes 7:1

A reference work states about early christians" the notion of a birthday festival was far from the ideas of the Christians of this period in general" - THE HISTORY OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION AND CHURCH, DURING THE THREE FIRST CENTURIES ( New York 1848) Augustus Neander (translated By Henry John Rose)! P. 190 ..... I asked a friend of mine who professed to be a devoted christian dat " Can u show me from the Bible an example of a Man of God that celebrate his birthday? " do u know what he says ? He answered " actually none, mayb dey forget to record it and infact do we av to check d Bible for evrytin" ..... Can u imagine ? Anyway it will be addressed one by one Question 1: do any Man or servant of God celebrate his birthday in d Bible? NONE! Once again None ... Professed Christians ar u beginning to see? Question 2: Do they forget to mention it as my distractors claim? Not @ all , Actually Two are recorded! .... Nw open ur bible to Gen 40:20-22 , Av U? I will sumarise it, it was King Pharaohs Birthday

malvisguy212: this is were draw my atension ,when we die, our body,flash decomposed and reaturn to dust,all your earthly nature vanish that include your brotherly love and the rest,what matter the most is the BREATH OF LIFE GOD BREATH IN YOU.DO YOU THINK THE HEAVENLY HOST HAS THE SAME NATURE WE HAVE HERE ON EARTH?

..... Gen 2:7 " ...God went on to form the man out of dust and to blow into his NOSTRILS the breath of life " ! Wow! I Love d scriptures , d breath of life was breath into Adams Nostrils .... Ar u seeing d truth? The breath of life is not a personalty BUT ITS d force dat activates life in humans and animals , dont scream yet! Animals av it ( gen 7:15,22 reads " they kept going to Noah inside the ark, two by two, every sort of flesh that has d breath of life" ! Its presence enables breathing or respiration dats why we ar living! Wat happens next? D scripture answers " everythin on dry land that had the breath of life in its NOSTRILS died!" verse 22 ! Meaning dey ceased breathing

peteregwu: Op, you need to read this in the bible. It is called everlasting fire. Thus, unquenchable fire.

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

...... I Hope Uv read dis post from d beginning , what u dont understand is dat d words of Jesus ar spirit&not to be taken literally ! Dis is one scripture dat will hurt ur ego " all this things Jesus spoke to the crowds by illustrations. Indeed , without an illustration he wont spoke to them " matt 13:34 ! Aswer dis: are d sheeps in dat parable literal sheeps? U say no, ar d goats in dat parable literal goats?No again ... What make u tink d everlastin fire is literal! my dear u nid to sit down and tink .. While Jude 7 Says Sodom sufer everlastin fire, is fire stil burning in dat city? No ..it simply was destroyed says 2pet 2:6

paulGrundy: Hello mr Canticles, observe that you use the word christaindom very often, I would like to understand not just that word, but also the context of its usage. Care to through more light on the bolded?

...... Sir, As used in the contexts, the term " christendom " refers to proffessed or mouth christianity WHICH is diferent from the true christianity of d Bible! E.g There was no clergy - laity distictions among 1st early christians , beacause they took to heart d Lord Jesus words in Matthew 23:6-12" all of you are *brothers* .... Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted" ! But u can see dat today inequality has existed , some are CLERGIES .. While d poor are Laity! .... Tinz Fall Apart

U obviously know d answer ... I listened to a news sometimes ago over d radio, ' A man burn his own son alive in fire' " it wasnt long dat police arrived, arrested and charged d man with MURDER! Is d man guilty? Was he not just imitating christendom cruel god,aftrall it was said dat he burn his own sons too in d fire? Ar u seein d insanity of dis doctrine? Yet dats what d devil has led most of u to bliv ! But d truth is 1john 4:8" God is love", wuld he do what NO RIGHTMINDED human parent wuld do? Never! ..WHAT IS D ORIGIN OF THE TEACHING OF HELFIRE? Started in ancient Babylon and Assryia ( the religion of Babylonia and Assyria, Boston 1898, Morris Jastrow, Jr., P. 581) No Wonder Wicked King Nebuchadnear Burn Pple Alive In A Burning Fire ( Dan 3:11,20) ... Its all pagan stuff ! But the root of dis God-dishonourin doctrine go deeper.D fiendish concepts asociated wit a hel of torment slander God&originate with d chief slanderer of God(Devil, wich name means "Slanderer),d one Jesus call " father of d lie"-joh8:44

One more comment: HAVE u ever seen a clergyman say to d family at d funeral of a wealthy politician that d deceased has gone to hell? U will neva hear dem say such bcoz its a false theory dat masquerade as christian teaching to control the masses and exploit dem! .. WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY THE PENALTY FOR SIN IS? Rom 6:23 " The wages sin pays is death"....AFTER ONES DEATH, IS HE SUBJECT TO FURTHER PURNISHMENT FOR HIS SINS? " He who has died his FREE from his sin" Rom 6:7 ... IS ETERNAL PURNISHMENT OF D WICKED COMPATIBLE WITH GOD'S PERSONALTY?? JER 7:31: " they ( apostate judeans) have built the high places of topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in other to burn their sons and daughters in the fire, a thing that i had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart" ( If it never came into Gods heart, surely he does not have and use such a thing on a larger scale.) Illustration: what wuld u personaly think of a parent who held his childs hand over a fire for wrongdoing?

So then thru the destruction of the flesh THE SPIRIT WILL BE SAVED!!!  God will judge all men using Satan for which he was created.  Satan is God’s rod of judgment, and when people hit rock bottom and have no place to go, they will have known what it is to be in hell’s fire which is nothing more than God’s consuming fire by which all men will be brought to their knees.  Here is the fire Jesus was talking about all along:
Heb 12:29  For our God is a consuming fire.
One day the whole world will learn rigteousness and be at-one-men with God.
This is our destiny.
You now know the truth. Are you beginning to see?

So now we see death and the grave being the last enemy to be defeated as we just read in 1Cor 15 being cast into the lake of fire. This is a time in the future when there will be a new heaven and new earth when men will no longer be subjected to this thing call death.
Are we to believe that God will perform a spiritual lobotomy on all of us who make it to heaven so we don;’t remember our love ones who didn’t make? How stupid can this be?
Lets read God’s promise to mankind which he created.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death,neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things arepassed away.
If hell is a continuation of suffering for the millions in it, this would make God our Creator a lier and this is exactly what Satan the father of all lies want you to believe.
Deep down inside the heart what lies is hatred even though Christians will not realize it. Bad company ruins good moral and when you company with a god who burnt his creation in fire you become like that god. You end up glorifying such a gruesome act  calling it divine judgment. You end up with a mind set worst than Hitler and don’t know it. It is such idols of that heart will be a very enduring experience that will cause the gnashing of the teeth Jesus talked about that will take brim-stones to eradicate from the heart. This is the dept of Satan Paul was speaking about and surely what a battle the beast will face.
For the record here is an online etymology of the word hell:
hell (n.)
Old English hel, helle,“nether world, abode of the dead, infernal regions,”from Proto-Germanic *haljo“the underworld”(cf. Old Frisian helle, Dutch hel, Old Norse hel, German Hölle, Gothic halja“hell”)“the underworld,”literally“concealed place”(cf. Old Norse hellir“cave, cavern”), from PIE *kel-“to cover, conceal, save”(see cell).
The English word may be in part from Old Norse Hel (from Proto-Germanic *halija“one who covers up or hides something”), in Norse mythology the name of Loki’s daughter, who rules over the evil dead in Niflheim, the lowest of all worlds (nifl“mist”). Transfer of a pagan concept and word to a Christian idiom. In Middle English, also of the Limbus Patrum, place where the Patriarchs, Prophets, etc. awaited the Atonement. Used in the KJV for Old Testament Hebrew Sheol and New Testament Greek Hades, Gehenna. Used figuratively for“state of misery, any bad experience”since at least late 14c. As an expression of disgust, etc., first recorded 1670s.
In order words it’s all pagan stuff!!
All Churches have a 501 Charter granted by the government. With this comes the do’s and don’t of the government the Churches have to adhere to otherwise they would be closed down and put out of business. What you have learned growing up is the teaching of the Catholic Church cloak under a term call Christianity. You must come out of this world call Babylon and worship the Divine Creator in spirit and in truth.
I will end with one last comment.
I have yet to hear one preacher tell the truth to the families and love ones of the deceased in a funeral palor who was a drug dealer, was committing adultery, sold drugs to children and killed people that he is now in hell, in torment and burning in fire. That they are unfortunately not in heaven.
Do you think this pastor will make it out of the funeral room alive? I don’t think he could run fast enough to save his hynie.
You know I feel really bad for the condition the world is in and the unspeakable things that have been and are taking place.  Let’s not kid ourselves life is really tough.  I can assure you that no one that does eveil is going to escape judgment.  Everyone will have to give an account for their deeds wheather good or bad.  Now after reading this message you may have concluded that I am saying there is no accountability since all man will go to heaven.
Well let me tell you that there is a very serious judgment coming upon all man that have ever lived and will be born.  And let me tell you that there certainly will be a lots of nashing of the teeth, a very real judgment that will eradicate every idol of the heart you may have.  That’s where God’s consuming fire comes into place. You cannot enter the Kingdom of God without first being judged.  And how will this be done. I will now show you how since you have never known this.
Heb 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
1Co 5:3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 
This deed reffering to the sins that man commits; adultery, stealing, lying, murdering (in the mind first),  false witnessing (lawyers and Judges,  Politician, especially preachers) etc, etc.
1Co 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
1Co 5:5To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Now you may be saying what’s the big deal? I don’t see any spectacular thing here. I know you don’t so let me show you the importance of this one Scriptures that should rock you off you feet. You see in this verse it said “oh…grave where is they victory. And here is what the word grave being used is in the Greek.
G86
ᾅδης
hadēs
hah’-dace
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1492; properly unseen, that is, “Hades” or the place (state) of departed souls:–grave, hell.
So wherein all the other places where we find the word hades in the Greek being translated to”hell” here they translated the same word hades to grave. Well why in the world did they do that? Why not translate it to hell as they have done everywhere else. I’m going to give you 10 seconds before I answer.
Ten second is up and here is the answer. Because if they were to translate the word hades in this verse to hell it would have meant the end of hell and they would have been exposed. Are you understanding?. They had to translate the word hades correctly to grave otherwise it would have read:
1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? Oh HELL, where is thy victory?
Which means that just like death which will be done away with in the future so would hell be done away with too. And therefore hell like death would have been eliminated, ceased to exist. But the giants of Christaindom can’t have that you see. Otherwise they would lose control over each and everyone one of you. Are you understanding?
Back to revelations.
And what does this word sleep mean in the greek?
G2837
κοιμάω
koimaō
koy-mah’-o
From G2749; to put to sleep, that is, (passively or reflexively) to slumber; figuratively to decease:–(be a-, fall a-, fall on) sleep, be dead.
Ecclesiastic makes it much clearer.
Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Can we praise and glory with songs when we die? Can we do any work or will we be filled with knowledge when we die. Will let the Scriptures do the talking.
Ecc 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.
There is your answer in black and white. If you don’t believe it, it is cause you don’t believe the word of God. Now some will say oh but look at what Paul said:
2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
In order words according to Christendom,  Paul was saying that if he were to die at that moment he would be with Jesus in heaven immediately. Yet we just read in 1Cor 15:52 what? Well let me read it again.
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
The we here is the believers who have died in the faith.  But see no one including Paul is going to see his incorruptible new spiritual body in heaven until the last trumpet of Revelations sounds and Jesus returns to earth to establish the Kingdom of God in on the earth.
The Bible eventually becomes a bunch of contradiction chapters and verses and make no sense when you take the truth out of content.
Now lets turn to the book of Revelation and compliment 1Cor 15 where we just read death will be swallow up in victory. Here we see a really strange thing taking place. It is understood by Christianity that hell is a place burning with fire and brimestone and death of course is when you die. But we read something weird in Rev 20:14:
Rev 20:14 (KJV) And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire….
But wait a minute I thought that the lake of fire was hell itself. So how can you possibly cast hell into itself. Do you see it simply makes no sense. Are you with me? It makes no sense when you use the word “hell” in the verse that is. But lets see if it makes sense when you use the correct word in the right place. The correct word should be grave which is the correct translation of the greek word “hades”. Lets see how it sounds now:
Rev 20:14 (KJV) And death and grave were cast into the lake of fire….

So here is undeniable Scriptural proof the first one to go heaven was Jesus who came down from heaven. Therefore before this event took place no man or woman created could have gone to heaven. Therefore it is totally impossible for Lazarus to be in heaven before Jesus. Cant you not see this? Now I realize reprogramming the mind is a hard thing. I realize by hearing this you are getting a knee jerk reaction call cognitive consonance. A disbelief that your perception of reality could be wrong.  I expect this to happen.  The Apostle Paul had to have a real physical divine experience and be made blind for three days for God to cause him to see the light. Today all I am doing is planting the spiritual seed of truth in your mind. If you are hearing this message you cannot over come what I am saying. Because it is the truth and it will overcome you in time.
Now some will say “Ah but you see Lazarus was not in heaven he was in the bosom of Abraham where Moses and Elijah were as well. Oh really is there no end to the contradictions of my distractors. So lets go ahead and read it.
Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
And what does the word bosom mean here. Look it up and read it yourself.
G2859
κόλπος
kolpos
kol’-pos
Apparently a primary word; the bosom; by analogy a bay:–bosom, creek.
And what is an analogy?
Noun
Analogy: A comparison between two things, typically on the basis of their structure and for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
Are we then to believe that Lazarus was carry to a water place somewhere, some place, in some other dimension but certainly not heaven. Are we to believe there is another place besides heaven and hell called Abraham’s bosom? Impossible there is no Scripture to support this. As the definition said it is an analogy of the intended meaning.
As a matter of Scriptures where are dead? Well as Paul put it they are asleep waiting to be resurrected.
Now let me ask a question here. How in the world can a person who is burning in fire and in agonizing pain have a conversation with another? Do you really think that if you turned your stove on and put just your pinky in the fire you would be able to ask for a glass of water. Why you would be screaming so loud in pain you would lose your breath and pass out. Yet we are to believe someone burning in fire and in such pain can is actually be having a pow wow conversation with another. How mad and stupid has the world gotten!
Alright lets get on with the show.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shallsound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
But wait a minute I thought the dead in Christ were in heaven already. Isn’t that what we’ve been taught. But we just read the dead shall be raised up incorruptible and be changed. So this begs a questions. If I’m already in heaven with Jesus in my spiritual body, assuming of course I accepted him as my saviour, why do I need to be resurrected and changed? I tell you this stuff just doesn’t add up.
But let us continue reading.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
Now let me remind you that what I am reading was written over 40 years after the death of Christ. So let me jump to 1Tim 6:15. Here we read something extremely interesting speaking about Jesus:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
So according to what I just read Christ is the only one right now who has obtained immortality and is the only one right now who can approach God the Father face to face and no man has or can see the Father in his spiritual form. No one is in heaven having a face to face with God yet.
Now get ready for a really stunning Scriptures your Pastor misses completely either ignorantly or purposely. Pay close attention. Lets go back to 1Corintheans.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, (are you ready) Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? Oh GRAVE, where is thy victory?

The answer is yes. Every Christian denomination understand Jesus came to die for the sins of all mankind. As a matter of fact Christianity teaches that Jesus actually went to hell to preach to the souls in hell that had died beforehand thus proving no one had gone to heaven before he died. So no one had ascended to heaven before Jesus died on the cross.
As a matter of Scriptures Jesus himself did not go to heaven when he died. How do we know this is true. Well here is the answer in the book of John.
Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Shortly after the resurrection Mary Magdalen went to hug Jesus when she saw him but he told her not to touch him for he had not ascended to the father yet. Are you all getting this? Jesus died but did not go straight to heaven. This is one of those truth your Pastor will not tell you because he will find himself in a mess he won’t be able to get out of. Here is more proof from Jesus’s own mouth no man or woman who have die have gone to heaven including King David a man after God’s own heart.
Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Paul reinerates this in the book of Acts.
Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Despite this absolute proof of the Scripture some will conjured some foolish idea that this is not what it means and they do it with every Scriptures that plainly reads what it said.
So now with all this Scriptural proof as evidence here is my trillion dollar question. How then could the thief on the cross have gone to heaven the very moment he died if Jesus didn’t go straight to heaven himself? Are you telling me that the repented thief got to heaven before Jesus? See I will now show you where they’ve tricked you into believing such a lie. This should cause you to jump off your seat.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Well this certainly seems to say what it said. Doesn’t it? Well get ready to remove the wool from your eyes.  First the word paradise means future happiness not literal heaven.  But there is a more sinister thing taking place in this verse.
You see there is a grammatical problem here of paramount importance. You see there is no comma in the Greek language but yet they put a comma after the word thee. But let’s now put the comma in the right place and see what it reads.
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee To day, shalt thou be with me in paradise.
The comma was inserted in the wrong spot. Jesus was telling the thief on the cross today, this day before he died, that he would be in the kingdom one day in the future. Like “I am telling you today, something about tomorrow. This is the truth wheather you are able to believe it or not. When you put all the evidence I have presented to you so far and will show you as we go, logic will dictate the obvious.
Now we come to the quatrillion dollar question concerning the famous parable of Lazarus and the rich man. Was it a literal story or a parable? So was Lazarus in heaven before Jesus died and paid the price for our sins? Is that what your Pastor is saying and you are believing it? How in the world could Lazarus be in heaven when it was Jesus himself telling the story?. I mean this is simple logic. Jesus had to be first resurrected himself and ascend to the Father before anyone could go to heaven. That’s basic Christianity 101. If you cannot understand this you must not be alive.  Becausee this would mean that Lazarus was begotten into the spirit world before Jesus. Could this be true?
Do we have a verse that said Jesus was the first resurrected from the dead? I mean was it not Moses, Elijah, Enoch, the thief on the cross or maybe it Lazarus. Well let the Scriptures answer itself.
Rev 1:5 “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead,…”
Begotten of the what? Did you get it? Jesus is the first begotten of the dead. Are you for once going to believe what the word of God said?

According to this Scripture Jimmy Swaggart should have plucked his eyes out or face going to hell. But I didn’t see him do such a darn thing. As a matter of fact I don’t see any Christian plucking their eyes out when they fall to this sin.
Also look at what Mat 9:43 and Mark 9:45 say. Jesus instructs to cut off your foot or hands if they cause you to sin. For it would be better to do so than to face going to hell fire. But I don’t see Christian cutting off their eyes and limps . Do you? However, I’m quite sure Christians are constantly repenting of their sins. But cutting off their limps I agree that would be absurd. It would be stupid and foolish.
Ah but here is what many of will say. Well you see this was a parable Jesus was speaking. He didn’t really mean to do such a thing. And I am going to say I agree with you 100% that it is true Jesus was speaking a parable. He was not literally telling people to cut off their eyes hands and feet. On this we are in agreement. So I want you to keep this in mind as we continue. Don’t forget we both are eye to eye on Jesus speaking in parable. I now want to read you Mat 13:34.
If you after reading it yourself what it said and you don’t believe it, than I will tell you you just don’t believe the word of God and you might of well just stop listening to me. All I can say is you will have to argue with God not me. But if you are really a believer of God’s word you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. Here is what it said:
Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
According to the holy Scriptures Jesus spoke to the multitude only in parables and without a parable he did not speak to them. That’s right this is something your Pastor has never told you. They conveniently skipped this very important point to keep the absurdity of hell alive. But why in the world did Jesus do such a thing to begin with? Why did just speak in parables?
Here is the answer and I want you to listen very carefully to what Jesus himself said not I. Open your ears and believe for once in your life:
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed;
Now listen to this most profound truth, your Pastor has never told you because he conveniently brushed thru it. And why does he do such a thing? I will tell you why because as I said before your Pastor is deceived himself and can’t hear or see himself. Continuing on in verse 15:
“lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them”
God himself is preventing the mass from understanding by using parables. Jesus is speaking in parable so that they don’t understand or else they would understand and he would have had to heal them!! Are you understanding this most profound verse in the Bible? This verse alone squashes the idea that man has free will and can come to God anytime he wants. But this is the subject of another discussion. You can listen to my audio lessons on this subject of free will. The point is Jesus did not and still today DOES NOT want the mass to understand what he is saying.
But what about the disciples maybe they understood what Jesus was saying.
Mat_15:15 (KJV) Then answered Peter and said unto him,(that is Jesus) Declare unto us this parable.
The answer is no they didn’t. That is why Jesus took them to the side and had to explain it to them.
Mar_4:34 (KJV) But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
Jesus explained that in due time he would not speak in parables anymore. Here is the proof.
Joh 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
So with this background of truth in mind lets take a look at Lazarus and the rich man. According to the Pastors of Christiandom everything else Jesus spoke was in parables except this one story because this story has a person’s name in it. But before we get into this story lets establish a few parameters that are undeniable.

So if you call someone dull or stupid or tell them to “shut up”you are in danger of going to hell!! This is what the word fool in this verse means. How many of you have ever read such a darn thing. That’s right take out your concordance and check it out for your own self. Don’t take my word for it do you own searching like I have. But wait a minute. If this is true we have a serious problem. You see that means thats it for Mr. T and Jesus Christ. Mr. T the television actor most famous word was “hey you fool”. And what about Jesus? You see Jesus himself called the pharasees fools and hypocrites. So by his very own words he condemned himself. Jesus used the word fool in his parables as much as Mr. T used it on television. I guess we could say they are both going to hell. But you know this is ridiculous. You know Mr. T and Jesus the saviour aren’t going to hell for simply calling someone a fool. I am being outright sarcastic here to show you how rediculous the teachings of Christendom are.
The important question is how many of you ever taken a concordance and looked up this word fool to see what it meant instead of just listening to your Pastor? Again probably 99 percent of you never have. Ah but see this is where studying your Bible and dividing the word makes a hell of a difference. Checking out if your Pastor knows what he’s talking about is absolutely vital to keeping your sanity.
The truth is in this parable Jesus was alluring to something much deeper inside the human heart that would cause a person to defame another by calling them stupid. Basically a hatred towards that person springing from resentment. Jesus was alluring to the deep seated sin of the heart that shows up in outburst of wrath a person needs to repent of. I’m telling this stuff is all spiritual in nature.
What about the word hell in this same verse. What does it mean in the Greek. Well the word hell in the verse is Ghehenah and it’s the same word used throughout the New Testament. And what is this Ghehenah Jesus is using here. Well lets take a look at it.
This is the word #G1067 from your concordance and it reads:
gheh’-en-nah
Of Hebrew origin ([H1516] and [H2011]); valley of (the son of) Hinnom; gehenna (or Ge-Hinnom), a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment:–hell.
Ghehenah was a place where they dumped the garbage in Jerusalem and they burnt it. This is a matter of historical fact. It was place contineously burning and full of rotting garbage where the flies laid their eggs and thus the worms died not. Jesus was speaking in a parable regarding the inevitable end of all man. He was referring to the dying of your body and eventual decomposing of it. So this verse should really read:
“but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of ghehennah fire.”
The word hell was deceitfully inserted by the translator to keep their fabrication of the hell tactic in place. And what is the everlasting purnishment? Why death of course. An everlasting death that if it were not for Jesus dying in our stead we would remain dead forever. Thats why Jesus die for mankind. Otherwise we would never be resurrected and remained dead forever. I’m aware I lost a bunch of you by now so let me continue on
Now let me ask you a question. Many years ago Jimmy Swaggart the crying preacher (you could look him at on youtube) was caught red handed with a prostitute in a motel. Something he had being doing for a while and only after being caught did he supposely repented and apoligized on national television to his wife and family. He used King David’s rundavou with bashiba excuse to defend himself. I am sure that Mr. Swaggart first lusted with his eye in his mind before he committed these acts. Now I ask, are all you male Christian out there telling me your eyes never take you for a head spin once in a while when you see a hot babe. Heck God made us to be attracted to curves and the females know this. We ain’t got no choice in the matter you see. If we weren’t attractive to females and their curves we would never have babies. You know what I’m talking about? . You know what I mean? Well of course you do and any fool knows that and females and advertisers capitalize on this. What about all those Pastors who have committed lust with their eyes and actually went out and physically did the act? What did Jesus say they should rather do to avoid the possibility of hell fire? Well here let me read it to you what the Scriptures say you are to do.
Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Let me tell you a very sad story before I get into the meat of this lesson. A couple of years back I read in the newspaper a story of a woman who killed her three children. But the why she did she did it is a real travesty? Well according to he own words she didn’t want to take the chance that her children would grow up and become corrupted by the world and not go to heaven. So she killed them while they were babies so they would go to heaven. She understood that any child who young died would go to heaven. She did this at her own peril of going to hell herself. I will tell you that I do not blame this woman one bit for taking such an action. One because she in her mind was actually saving her children from such a possible end and two because she was deceived into such a belief. She was innocently indoctrinated as are the majority of you into believing a lie most of you will even fight to preserve.
I hope you have your bible handy.  Dust it off and read it for yourself
Did you all know that you can go to hell for name calling? Yes according to the Scripture you can go to hell for calling someone stupid. But I bet you didn’t this. Well it is true that if we take the Scripture literally and you call your brother a fool that that’s enough to send you to this place burning with fire and brimstone for all eternity. Do you really think this is a fair punishment for simply name calling someone? I don’t know about you but this is pretty coo-coo. I know you don’t believe what I am saying so let me read it to you from the Scriptures Jesus himself saying it.
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
The Greek word fool being used here is:
TG3474
μωρός
mōros
mo-ros’
Probably form the base of G3466; dull or stupid (as if shut up), that is, heedless, (morally) blockhead, (apparently) absurd:–fool (-ish, X -ishness).

You really have to sit down and meditate for a while to see how insane this is and yet giants of Christiandom as Billy Graham, Haggie and Kennedy and all the Pastors of Christendom claim this is God’s divine judgment. Burning people in hell is ok justice with God. No wonder during the reformation Catholics were burning Christians at the stake. They were after all being Godly followers of Jesus. After all they were following the example of Jesus Christ and God. They were being holy for God is holy and we are supposed to have the mind of Christ. So we can conclude that burning people at the stake is holy!  I know you will agree with me when I say  “what a crock”.
Now here is where this takes a real twisted turn that should make the dead turn in their graves and turn any wright minded person away from such a God. That while he tells us to love our enemies, to turn the other cheek he turns around and does the apposite. He barbecues his enemies in an endless fire for all eternity. And since he is God knowing all things from the beginning to the end he knew the majority would turn to Satan so he decided he would throw his enemies in hell and burnt them forever. And there you have it. A perfect divine formula for dealing with sinners. If by now you can’t see the insanity that this is, you must be a believer of such a doctrine and probably have your hands around my neck and condemning me to such a place.
But before all you throw those stones at me lets take a look at the Bible to see if what Billy Graham and his cronies, that would be your Pastor, are telling you is really true. Yes I am calling out all you Pastors of Christendom that teach this demonic doctrine. Before I get into this thing called hell let me say this.
Keep in mind mind that our first parents Adam and Eve were never warned of this thing called hell waiting for them if they sinned. As a matter of Scriptures hell is not mentioned even once in the old testament. Did you know this? I bet you didn’t. Oh they might have changed the word Sheol in Hebrew to hell and have confused the heck out of you. But if any of you say that hell is mentioned or Adam and Eve did know about it I am calling you a flat liar. There is not one Scriptures you can point to support such a thing.

All of you who believe in Jesus Christ and in hell need to read the parable of Math 20:1-16.
I’ll sumarise it for you. Basically a vineyard owner hired a couple of guys to work for an entire day for a penny. At the last 3 hours he hires another man. At the end they all got paid the same, a penny. Those that worked more complained of the man who only worked 3 hours. The vine yard owner told them basically “what’s it to you what I paid him”. You agree to a penny so you got a penny”. Here is wisdom you should know.  Everyone got the same reward at the end.  Accordingly so will all man enter into  the Kingdom of heaven but all in their own time. But here is what Jesus said for those self-righteous he was addressing.
Mat 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
So according to Christianity we have a God who tells us to love and serve him or else he will burnt us in a pit of fire forever. Well with choices like that who in the world, in their right mind is going to choose hell? If I put a gun to your head and say “give me your money or your life” which would you choose? If you were presented with a bottle of lemonade and a bottle of poison which one would you take. The answer is obvious isn’t it? Well according to Christendom the majority of you folks out there are choosing the bottle of poison and going to hell. It was your choice and since God has given you free will you decided which way you would go. So you have no excuse. For the sake of clarify let me mention a few who are going to hell, just to shed a little light here.
You are going to hell if you are a Jew, a Muslin, a Buddhist, a Catholic, a Hindu, an atheist, an American Indian, a Egyptologist,……you are going to hell if you are a believer of anything other than what traditional Christendom believes is true regarding the destiny of man. This would include anyone from the age of reasoning (that’s about 7 and up) and have not turned over their hearts to Jesus. You are going to burn in the fires of hell forever with no chance of ever getting out. Yeap thats it for you. The keys will be thrown away and you will stay there with Satan forever and ever, the end.