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Christianity Etc › Re: If We All Pay Tithes To Churches, Who Do Churches Pay Tithes Too? Just Curious by CANTICLES: 3:57pm On Nov 06, 2014

christemmbassey:
where do our national treasure looters/armed robbers/theives/scammers/yahoo boys pay their ioots?

funny but true question

Christianity Etc › Re: If We All Pay Tithes To Churches, Who Do Churches Pay Tithes Too? Just Curious by CANTICLES: 3:52pm On Nov 06, 2014

Absurdity Of Religion

Christianity Etc › Re: When Pregnancy MISCARRIAGE Occur ..... Did the foetus go to heaven?? by CANTICLES(op): 3:21pm On Nov 06, 2014*

Oduduwaboy:
what kind of thought is this? ...just imagine a foetuses heaven.lol. Foetuses crawling on the streets of gold !!!

miscarriages happen everyday around the world , advocates of afterlife should have an answer to this

Christianity Etc › Re: When Pregnancy MISCARRIAGE Occur ..... Did the foetus go to heaven?? by CANTICLES(op): 3:21pm On Nov 06, 2014

Oduduwaboy:
what kind of thought is this? ...just imagine a foetuses heaven.lol. Foetuses crawling on the streets of gold !!!

miscarriages happen everyday around the world , advocates of afterlife should have answer for this

Christianity Etc › Re: Does This Even Make Sense? by CANTICLES: 1:56pm On Nov 06, 2014

@ urcutecrush .... You are a truth-seeker and i also knew there are many insane things about religion nowadays , I Love your questions But the truth is that Bible doesnt say evrybody will go to heaven ..... Those going to heaven are few , Jesus call them "little flock" luk 12:32 .... Infact , they are numbered! How many are those chosen from earth to be ressurected to heaven ? Bible answers " and I saw and look! The Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion and with him a hundred and fourty - four thousand having his name and the name of the Father written on their fore-heads ..... who have been bought from the earth" Rev 14:1,3 ..... WHAT IS THEIR MISSION IN HEAVEN?? Bible answers " made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule has kings over the earth" Rev 5:9,10 !!! Notice they will rule over the earth , therefore earth is not empty , people are there " the righteous shall possess the earth, and shall live foreva on it" psalm 37:29, matthew 5:5 so also Rev 21:3,4 !!

Christianity Etc › When Pregnancy MISCARRIAGE Occur ..... Did the foetus go to heaven?? by CANTICLES(op): 10:51am On Nov 06, 2014*

What happen to miscarriage foetus ... Did they also go to heaven ? Ur views

Christianity Etc › Re: "How Is An Eternity In Hell A Just Punishment For Only A Human Lifetime Of Sin?" by CANTICLES: 10:24pm On Nov 05, 2014

OLAADEGBU:
Resurrection is where the body and soul/spirit that have been separated at death comes back together again but this time in a glorious, incorriptible body like that of our Lord Jesus Christ (flesh and bones).

Their spirit and soul needs to join up with their newly formed tabernacle, the glorious body.

Don't prisoners kept in police cells come out to go to court for sentencing?
Yes. Luke 16:19-31
They will all be conscious. Everlasting life means life with the never dying God. Everlasting death means eternal separation from the never dying God. Eternal life is only granted to those who believe in the only begotten Son of God before they die.

u call it eternal death yet they are still alive and conscious, coz u are misinformed !! Here this: "the living know that they will die , but as for the dead, they know Nothing at all" ecc 9:5,10 ,infact " they are dead, THEY WILL NOT LIVE .. powerless in death they will NOT rise up" Isa 26:14

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit A Person? by CANTICLES: 10:30am On Nov 05, 2014

CANTICLES:
Lols, the holyspirit is a person so it had sex with Mary right ?? Honestly speaking .... Religion is brainwashed !!! [colour=red]That what d trinity doctrine has led to , No Wonder i heard a religious group tell me that fornication is not a sin , I asked why ?? The guy said didnt i read in the bible that holyspirit fornicated with mary before her mariage [/color]..... I cant just stop laughin at his ideas !! TRUTHBOX: the holyspirit is not a person, so as to have sex with mary or be regarded as the father of Christ .. But its the " POWER of God" Luke 1:35

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit A Person? by CANTICLES: 10:13am On Nov 05, 2014*

Emusan:
2. Who is speaking to this force? Because this force suppose to be generated from God according to JWs.

Not according to JW'S but the Bible " the father GIVES the holyspirit to those asking him" luke 11:13 ! The father generates it and give it to those asking of him ..... " God puts his holy spirit in you" 1the 4:8 ! Also described it as " power beyond what is normal" 2cor 4:7 , Luke 5:17 makes it clear that " the power of the LORD[JHVH] was there for Jesus to do healing" !!! With the foregoing, its also clear that while some scriptures say the holyspirit spoke , other passages makes it clear that this was done thru angels or humans ( yess compare Act 4:24, 25 ; 28:25; matthew 10:19,20; infact its also clearly showed in Act 20:23 compared with Act 21:10,11) ! It Emanates from God and whatever God use it to accomplish is inspired of God ( 2peter 2:21, 2 tim 3:16) !!!

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit A Person? by CANTICLES: 9:21am On Nov 05, 2014*

Emusan:
John 16:13 says "...whatsoever he shall HEAR..."

1) How can a force HEAR?

ANSWER: ... the same way the sun will walk if we want it to walk , u are lik a person who heard his neighbour says "open the door , so that the sun can enter" and conclude from that statement that the sun is a person so as to walk, without looking at d evidences which shows its not a person but was just personified to walk, so also the holyspirit !!!

Here are the evidences, open ur heart and mind , Jesus denote it with "it" wich is neva used for a person John 14:17! People can be "filled with" It Act 2:4, Luke 1:41 , filled with is not used for a person, emusan is filled with his dad is an abnormal statement ! ...it can be Also be " poured out" act 10:45 a person cant be poured out, Christ is poured out is an abnormal statement! .......bro, it can be measured ... Elisha asked for a double Portion ( 2kings 2:9) i bet u neva read this

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit A Person? by CANTICLES: 10:18pm On Nov 04, 2014

Emusan:
John 16:13 "When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, [size=14pt]but whatever he hears he will speak,[/size] and he will declare to you the things that are to come." RSV

The Bolden part is my questions based, if Holy spirit is a God's active FORCE as JWs claim;
1. How can a force HEAR?
2. Who is speaking to this force? Because this force suppose to be generated from God according to JWs.

in John 16:13 Jesus use " he" to personify it , but Christ himself knows its not a person ..So he states " and i will request .... The Father to give you the spirit of truth...You know it, bcoz it remains with you and is in You" John 14:16,17 Interestingly He uses "it" ,!! Peter explained " he ( Christ ) was exalted to the ryt hand of God and received the promised holyspirit from d Father, (christ) has POURED OUT this wich u see and hear"

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit A Person? by CANTICLES: 10:53am On Nov 04, 2014*

So, if fire is not a person ... What makes u absurdly think the holyspirit mentioned is a person !!! "Baptized with" exactly as water ...... SCRIPTURES EXPLAINED : ACT 1:8 "but you will receive power when the holyspirit arrive upon u" ! This scripture shows its d power of God! ...... Luke 1:35 explains d holyspirit as the " POWER of the most High" ! Walla power again ...... Rome 15:13,19 Explains as " May God fill u with ..... The POWER of the holypsirit"power again!!! Luke 4:14 explains "Jesus returned in the power of the spirit" described as power again !!! This helps Jesus to perform many powerful works(Act 2:22) The Father Controls and give out this force to equip us with POWER (LUK 11:13, lik a generator emits current, holyspirit emits from d Father 1the4:8,Act 2:32,33)Apostle Paul examines "for all things i have the strenght by virtue of him (God) who imparts Power to me" phili 4:13,dats why pple can be " Filled with" it Act 2:4,&it can be " poured out"Act 10:45

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit A Person? by CANTICLES: 10:26am On Nov 04, 2014

Knockout to all the prophets of Baal ........ Its not uncommon for the scriptures to personify a thing ! Wisdom is said to help God to create the world as stated in prov 8:30, Christ Jesus himself personify wisdom again saying it has children?? Is wisdom a person so as to have children ..... Now Lets Dive Into The Deep Things Of God!!! Jesus himself personify the holyspirit by using " he" ... Did i say personify ?? Yes, of course infact its high time u let the scripture explains itself on what the holyspirit is , when the scripture say the spirit intercedes in rome 8:26 , its explained, that this was done thru Jesus Christ ( Rom 8: 34) !! When The scripture says the spirit spoke , honestly this is done thru an Angel, or a man ( compare Act 21:3, and Act 21:10,11) .... While revelation 2:7 says the spirit spoke, this was done thru Jesus (rev 1:1) .... So, let the scriptures now give the meaning of holyspirit , Matthew 3:11 " that one will baptize u people with holyspirit and fire" !! Gud, is fire a person??

Christianity Etc › The GREATEST Engineer and Designer by CANTICLES(op): 5:34pm On Nov 03, 2014*

God is great ... What if when we are created, our eyes are located at d back of our heads ?? Imagine dat; what if when we are created, instead of a nose, we use antenna's like insects ?? Tink about hw u gonna look ; what if we walk on four legs like goats ?? Dont u think that God is great .....how do u feel when you enjoy the breeze of the midnight rain?? Just think of it... Who causes the lightning to flash in d sky ?? ... What can u compare to the beauty of the glaring and dazzling rainbow ?? A computer has a designer,Who design our brilliantly enginnered brain ?? What if there were no emotions, no smile, no feelings , we are just like robots ?? Cant u see d greatness of his wisdom.... How does a foetus survive in an enclosed womb ?? Despite that the mum is warm blooded!! Infact, Who teaches a Baby how to smile ?? .... Imagine their small mouth and soft cheeks as they smile at you !!! Honestly God is great ..... Dear friend, What do u notice in creation , drop ur comment and educate others

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit A Person? by CANTICLES: 4:55pm On Nov 03, 2014

rutibaby:
Yes. He is a person. The third person in the God head.

person indeed !! So it obviously had sex with Mary , and Jesus was born ?? .... Impregnating Mary and thus bcame the Father of Jesus ?? Try and think straight beacause the scriptures itself has explained it has " POWER of the most High God" Luke 1:35 ..... Answer dis : if the holyspirit is a person, why is it " poured out" Act 2:17 ?? Bcoz a person can not be poured out like water

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit A Person? by CANTICLES: 4:09pm On Nov 03, 2014

Lols, the holyspirit is a person so it had sex with Mary right ?? Honestly speaking .... Religion is brainwashed !!! That what d trinity doctrine has led to , No Wonder i heard a religious group tell me that fornication is not a sin , I asked why ?? The guy said didnt i read in the bible that holyspirit fornicated with mary before her mariage ..... I cant just stop laughin at his ideas !! TRUTHBOX: the holyspirit is not a person, so as to have sex with mary or be regarded as the father of Christ .. But its the " POWER of God" Luke 1:35

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Christianity Etc › Re: Red Sea: Archaeologists Discover Remains Of Egyptian Army From The Biblical Exod by CANTICLES: 3:13pm On Nov 03, 2014

I believe in the Bibles Account of pharaoh's fall in the Red Sea !!! But this news is fake, many yrs after the event , God spoke thru Moses to the isrealites: " to pharaoh's horses and war chariots which were overwhelmed by the waters of Red Sea when they were chasing after you, and Jehovah[YHWH, JHVH psalm 83:18] destroyed them once and for all" - Deu 11: 4,5 , its clear they have been destroyed , thus has decomposed in the sea long ago !!! Forever dead !

Christianity Etc › Re: Hell EXPOSED: The people of Noah's Day Didnt Go To the fictional hell empire by CANTICLES(op): 2:38pm On Nov 03, 2014

Here is the straightforward answer ........ The people of Noah's day were not givin an everlasting life in hell RATHER Jesus answers " the Flood came and swept them all away" Matt 24:39! Thus confirming it further that " the wages of Sin is death" Rom 6:23 ! " they are dead; they will not live. Powerless in death, they will not rise up .... For God have turned atention to them to Annihilate them and destroy all mention of them" Isa 26:14

Christianity Etc › Re: EXPOSED : NO Bible Character Go To Christendom Hell by CANTICLES(op): 8:12am On Nov 01, 2014

@ Yooguyz ...... The Watchtower is not advising any witness to just copy and paste from watchtower, awake or reasoning ! You have to study the bible urself, be convinced of the truth ....The slogan is " make the truth your own" ! Do u know Adolf Hitler ?? Do u know Mussolini ?? Do u know Duplesis ?? .... They Rise and fall when dey attack the witnesses of the Most High, honestly speaking ... U will soon end up like them if you fail to change !! Just mark my words

Health › Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by CANTICLES: 1:38pm On Oct 31, 2014*

Nice one @ op .... Av chated wih a lot of so-called born - agains who frankly tell me " its people who have no faith and Jesus in their lives that visit hospital" can u imagine ?? Anyway is online tinz , dey can purchase paracetamol and com back online to utter another thing ......... I Notice Something On This Thread ? Do U ? Read The comments and u will discover that people dont wanna die !!! If afterlife duplicate exists , people will be willing to die ! Everyone Agrees With Dis Fact " the living know that they will die 'BUT as for the Dead, they know NOTHING at all' ... For there is no knowledge nor wisdom in the GRAVE where you are going" Ecclesises 9:5,10

Christianity Etc › Re: Gays & Lesbians Are Sinners And They Will Go To Hell If... by CANTICLES: 11:35am On Oct 31, 2014

asalimpo:
jw crap. Is cessation of existence death? Is it somethg to fear or dread? If cessation is all then all die (sinner/saint) and that is all.

those scriptures u called crap ar not written by Jw's ... And u ask if cessation of existence is death ?? YES, the event that happens after Adam sinned prove this, GOD said : " ... That he ( Adam) may not put his hand out and take fruit also from the tree of life and eat and live forever " Gen 3:22 to avoid this, God blocked the road to that tree of life with Angels and a fast moving sword! So can he still live forever ?? 930 yrs is all he culd use! Honestly speaking, u will continue to have problem with this basic truths if u still reject the future ressurection of the Dead ! Lols not resurection of the living cos livin pple dont need to be resurected ! the dead are " sleeping in death" 1the 4:16

Christianity Etc › Re: "Why The So-called Christians Are Not Different From Pagan Greeks" by CANTICLES(op): 10:23am On Oct 31, 2014

Nice One @ Bible Speaks ...... I Wonder Why All Of Them Now Absorb This Greek Thinkings And Reject The Plain And Clear "Teaching Of .... The Resurection Of The Dead" HEB 6:2

Christianity Etc › Re: Gays & Lesbians Are Sinners And They Will Go To Hell If... by CANTICLES: 10:13am On Oct 31, 2014

VirginFinder:
The soul never dies!

who told u that ? Devil .... He is tricking u ! "the soul who sins - it itself shall DIE " Ezekiel 18:4,20 ! Yeah, all souls die " all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Rom 3:23 !!! Ur immortal story is devilishly inspired

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Christianity Etc › Re: "How Is An Eternity In Hell A Just Punishment For Only A Human Lifetime Of Sin?" by CANTICLES: 9:56am On Oct 31, 2014*

honourhim:
I dont need to argue your lies in describing eternal destruction as being killed off. Its a lie from satan himself that you are peddling here. Anyway we all will die someday and face the truth. You can continue to deceive yourself.

... Case study: Adam didnt exist before his creation ,he was formed out of the ground .... And whenever he dies , God said he" will RETURN to the GROUND, for out it you ( Adam) was taken" Gen 3:19!! God didnt promise him an afterlife . Did he ? If u say " YES" am callin u a flat liar , to prove Adam will cease To Exist, GOD blocked his access to the Tree Of Life .. Y ? " That he may not put his hand out and take fruit ..from the tree of life and eat and live forever " Gen 3:22 !! With dat, he LOST the hope of living forever, thus ceased from existence !! Humans ceased from existece by death until Resurection Of The Dead made posible by God thru Jesus ( 1 Cor 15:21)

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Christianity Etc › Re: "How Is An Eternity In Hell A Just Punishment For Only A Human Lifetime Of Sin?" by CANTICLES: 9:22am On Oct 31, 2014

edogho:
oga, did u read the scripture i cited? 2thes 1:6-9? d place agrees with u on the eternal judgement u mentioned. it says eternal destruction. revelation19 from 11 describes how the unrighteous will be killed off. proverbs 2:21 and psalms 37:9 says they'll be cut off. until u understand how hell came to be called a place of torment, u won't understand this simple truth. oya go in peace.

Interestingly Bro, everlasting destruction is eternal death .... God said he " destroyed pharaoh and his armies in the red sea till this very day" Deu 11: 3,4 ; Psalm 110:11 .... Concerning the people of Noah's day, Jesus said "the Flood came and swept them all away" matthew 24:39 they ceased to exist , they went off like a candle in da wind

Christianity Etc › Re: "How Is An Eternity In Hell A Just Punishment For Only A Human Lifetime Of Sin?" by CANTICLES: 8:52am On Oct 31, 2014

IWillSucceed:
My friend keep that useless teaching to yourself and keep deluding yourself by not making any conscious effort to live right and then wait for the "GIFT" to grant you eternal life.Fellows like you are those populating the churches with "proudly sinning christians" waiting for God's GRACE to grant them eternal life.

... Gentleman, I dont practice sin ... And am not an advocate for sin !! This pple u labelled sinners " prostitutes , gays , lesbians , thieves , politicians , internet scammers , fornicators e.t.c are all taught dis devil doctrine of hell, isnt it ?? But it wont stop them ,, they will continue to do the will of the devil who originate dis doctrine ! Satan has used u guys to make many run into atheism , agnosticism ... Indeed !! Know this truth " its the will of God that ALL sort of people be saved" 1 tim 2:4 !! Neither ur clergy who change it and say only few will b saved Or ur devil doctrine of hell!! None of it can stop this firm will of GOD

Christianity Etc › Re: "How Is An Eternity In Hell A Just Punishment For Only A Human Lifetime Of Sin?" by CANTICLES: 8:46am On Oct 31, 2014

IWillSucceed:
My friend keep that useless teaching to yourself and keep deluding yourself by not making any conscious effort to live right and then wait for the "GIFT" to grant you eternal life.Fellows like you are those populating the churches with "proudly sinning christians" waiting for God's GRACE to grant them eternal life.

... Gentleman, I dont practice sin ... And am not an advocate for sin !! This pple u labelled sinners " prostitutes , gays , lesbians , thieves , politicians , internet scammers , fornicators e.t.c are all taught dis devil doctrine of hell, isnt it ?? But it wont stop them ,, they will continue to to the will of the devil who originate dis doctrine ! Satan has used u guys to make many run into atheism , agnosticism ... Indeed !! Know this truth " its the will of God that ALL sort of people be saved" 1 tim 2:4 !! Neither ur clergy who change it and say only few will b saved Or ur devil doctrine of hell!! None of it can stop this firm will of GOD

Christianity Etc › Re: "How Is An Eternity In Hell A Just Punishment For Only A Human Lifetime Of Sin?" by CANTICLES: 6:58am On Oct 31, 2014

honour him:
you like twisting the scripture, deceiving your own self

Course code: Basic Christianity 102, Title: "Resurection Of The DEAD" HEB 6:2 !! Answer this .... 1 If there is an afterlife , why the need for a future Resurection ?? , 2. Ressurection is for the dead NOT the living , why do people who are already living in heaven or hell need a resurection ?? .... 3 . " there is going to be a ressurection of the righteous and Unrighteous" Act 24:15 , why would God ressurect the unrighteous if they are presently in hell as religion claim ?? 4 for someone to be tormented, he has to be conscious, are the dead conscious (ecc 9:5) ?? 5 for sinners to be tormented in fire, they must be living , will God grant the GIFT of everlasting life to sinners OR they will perish as clearly stated in John 3:16??

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Christianity Etc › Re: "How Is An Eternity In Hell A Just Punishment For Only A Human Lifetime Of Sin?" by CANTICLES: 8:38pm On Oct 30, 2014

IWillSucceed:
The best answer for the Op question is goes thus: Is it just for the righteous to inherit eternal life for just 70,80 years of righteousness? If God must award eternal life for the righteous for their short time of earthly righteousness,then justice demands He rewards eternal punishment for earthly short time of unrighteousness.

..... Hello gentleman, No Righteousness of 70 or 80 years deserve an everlasting life , its just loving kindness ...therefore the bible calls it a " GIFT" from God ROM 6:23 !! Eternal purnishment for the wicked is " death" Rom 6:23 , 1the 1:9 Describes it as " eternal Destruction" ! When this happens , the prophecy is fulfilled " the wicked will be NO MORE" PSALM 37:9-11

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Christianity Etc › Re: Gays & Lesbians Are Sinners And They Will Go To Hell If... by CANTICLES: 7:59pm On Oct 30, 2014

VirginFinder:
Why are you so recalcitrant?
There is life after physical death

That life can be everlasting life in heaven or everlasting life in hell for sinners(including gays & lesbians).
That life in hell is spiritual death. The soul has is said to have died/perished.
It's the second death!

Notice the bolded , I will expose a truth that has been hidding from you right now !! If u claim that there is life after death ... That means satan automatically wins , indeed he was right when he said Adam and eve wont die ... Ur affirmations says they are immortals, Thus still exist till today ! Uv absorb dis lie and make God a fool when he said " you shall surely Die .... And U (Adam) shall return to the ground cos out of it you(Adam) were taken" !! God is not a fool, go and reprogramme ur mind .... He knew Satan was lying, of course, no wonda he have promise the Future RESURECTION OF Those sleepin in DEATH ( ACT 24:15 , John 11:23,24, JOHN 5:28,29, 1the 4:16 )

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Christianity Etc › Re: Gays & Lesbians Are Sinners And They Will Go To Hell If... by CANTICLES: 7:46pm On Oct 30, 2014*

VirginFinder:
Ode is supposed to mean dunce or dullard.
All the same,I'm sorry for using the word.

Now will you believe in the reality of heaven and hell?

.... Its ur duty to do ur assignment and discover how much u have been misled by religion with this hell of a thing !!! May I Remind you, gentleman .... That the scriptures was originally writen in hebrew and greek languages ! We find three words misrendered 'hell' .In Hebrew, Sheo'l wich means "Grave" ecc 9:10 and its equivalent Hade's wich means " grave" in greek Act 2:31 !! We also find another called gehann'a / ... This is the valley of hinnom in the outskirt of Jerusalem , A Mass Graveyard ( Jer 7:32) infact, this is a matter of historical fact!! Know the truth and be freed from the bondage of the catholic church to scare the masses and burn pple at d stake , INFACT the idea of helfire neva come to Gods Heart - SEE Jer 7:31, 19:5,, 32:35 ! Here Is The Penalty for sin " death" rom 6:32 ! The OPPOSITE of life

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Christianity Etc › Re: Gays & Lesbians Are Sinners And They Will Go To Hell If... by CANTICLES: 5:36pm On Oct 30, 2014

VirginFinder:
Liar! Why did it take you so long to come and laugh?
Why form ignore initially? Ode!!

... Am just looking at u as u called people Ode!! A yoruba people's word for fool , honestly speaking a true christian dont need such degrading and abusive words to back up his words !! Heed this warning found in Ephesians 4:31

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