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sounds like Relax101:sounds like BS to me. what sort of soldier would say "and as is usual" when it comes to losing men. big time BS |
igbo 2011 Joseph Kabila is under the control of Israeli mining interests, have you heard of a guy called Dan Gertler? Dan Gertler was born in December 1973. He is a grandson of Moshe Schnitzer, first President of the Israeli Diamond Exchange, who won the Israel Prize in 2004. His family was traditionally involved in cutting and merchandising diamonds. While growing up, Gertler spent as much time as he could learning about the diamond trade from his father and grandfather. As soon as he had completed his 3-year mandatory service in the Israeli Defense Forces he opened his own diamond business.[1] |
MAD - Making a New generation of African slave leaders |
Paniki you can continue to lie to yourself -you are fooling no-one but yourself. RECONCILIATION WITHOUT JUSTICEhttp://www.africanholocaust.net/articles/SOUTH%20AFRICA%2010%20DAYS.htm |
morpheus24:"advice" the noun is spelt with a "c" not an "s". |
"This name Mandela is an albatross around the necks of my family. You all must realize that Mandela was not the only man who suffered. There were many others, hundreds who languished in prison and died. Many unsung and unknown heroes of the struggle, and there were others in the leadership too, like poor Steve Biko, who died of the beatings, horribly all alone. Mandela did go to prison and he went in there as a burning young revolutionary. But look what came out " |
paniki:so because the white settlers in your country claim to have "discovered" something on another's man land (that was already there) that makes them the legitimate owners of the land? if that is the case why didnt the people of Libya allow the americans to take over libya after a texan oil company "discovered" oil there in the 1950s? why did Qadaffi close the american air force base in libya after he overthrew Libya's puppet king in 1969? why did mossadegh of iran nationalise the anglo persian oil company in 1954 and end britain's exploitation of his country's resources why did the iranian people get rid of the shah of iran - an american puppet who was running the country on behalf of british and american oil companies? You are extremely daft if you cant see that your country has been hijacked from you by european criminals, do you seriously think they plan to share the wealth of south africa with blacks - you must be living on cloud cuckoo land if you beleive that. They have already bamboozled you into thinking that you have a stake in a country where over 80% of your own people live in destitution - so carry on being a fool. If you have knowledge and skills you can go anywhere in the world and succeed, that's what Jews(25% Nobel laureates) do.They are clever people who push boundaries of academia.No Jews are classified as white everywhere in the world and therefore are the beneficiaries of white privilege - this means that they can go anywhere in the world and enjoy great privilege and access to employment and career opportunities that you and i can only dream about - You need to research the history of african americans and find out how jim crow racist policies prevented them from access to education and decent employment - as a result white americans had a 400 year head start on them just the same way white south africans have a 300 year headstart on you as a result of apartheid. it doesnt matter how intelligent you are - but if you have been denied the right to develop the necessary tools to make you self sufficient ie employment, education etc your intelligence means nothing. Me and most other black South Africans will continue to progress while you remain a bitter person who is only interested in pointing out past injustices and demands payback because he is clueless about how to create his own success. It's not white mans fault that blacks who are alive today are generally dumb and know nothing worthwhile, the good thing is that South Africa has long identified education as the main instrument to correct past and current imbalances.No you are the dumb fool who knows nothing worthwile and what makes matters worse is that your low self esteem and complete lack of dignity and self respect has blinded you into thinking that you are actually in an advantageous position. You are content with the lowly position that has been assigned to you by the very people who brutalised your fore fathers. All you have is a job working for whites, you are simply one paycheck away from the townships - you are not in control of your own destiny because the people doing most of the hiring and firing are the same white oppressors - how does that put you at an advantage? The education you have been brainwashed with teaches you to be grateful to the people who are responsible for enslaving your own parents and grandparents. Why dont you have a read through that list i posted up there - it was written by honest black south africans not delusional liars like you. You can see from the list that all of the garbage you have been vomitting on this forum is pure fantasy. You need to come live in South Africa, your misconceptions will evaporate quickly. If I were to list all that government has done and is doing for black South Africans you would be shocked and you would also wonder why ungrateful brats want more. Which country in this world can boast of having so far built over 3 million house for its poor citizens?Still playing the part of the grateful slave? don't worry very soon you will get a rude awakening. At least blacks are using their own initiative to create progress for themselves while you sit back and state that white man is still dominating which is true but the emphasis is on sit backhahaha you make me laugh, is setting up an organisation known as BEE which hands out a few jobs to token blacks your own idea of progress? You are a delusional black person who mind is held indirectly hostage by whites. You care too much about what white people have done, are doing and will do but you have no interest in your own development . You will remain stagnant while white man continues to achieve. I feel sorry for you because a particular race has shifted your focus so that you become obsessed with them which limits you in all other fronts.No YOU ARE THE DELUSIONAL ONE MY FRIEND - I LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD where i see things for what they are. You on the other hand prefer fantasy island. Of course i caare about what white people have done because i am living with the after effects of their criminal acts namely institutionalised racism, destruction of the economy of my country by way of the IMF and world bank and the financing and supporting of a corrupt black elite who have destroyed my country. The worst part of it is that europe and america STILL continue to interfere in africa's internal issues - they continue to fund, arm and prop up criminal african dictators like Paul Kagame of Rwanda, Museveni of uganda, Ouattara of Ivory Coast, Bongo of Gabon they even armed and funded mass murderer Charles taylor formerly of Liberia. perhaps you were in a coma throughout NATO's destruction of Libya? did you also miss the fact that your s.tupid president along with our own fool voted in support of the mass bombing of a sovereign country for no other reason than greed and wickedness. did you also miss the fact that NATO also armed and funded a group of racist arabs who massacred thousands of black africans? These same criminals are currently aiding and abetting our current puppet president Goodluck Jonathan who is implementing structural adjustment policies on behalf of criminal organisations like the IMF and the world bank which have led to mass unemployment and mass poverty in my country, so i think i have a right to be angry. |
SOUTH AFRICA: THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE DOWNRIGHT UGLY: GOOD: Hands down, without dispute South Africa is one of the most beautiful countries in the world. Perfect weather, diverse ecology, beaches, mountains, savannahs, forest, etc.http://www.africanholocaust.net/articles/SOUTH%20AFRICA%2010%20DAYS.htm |
paniki:Fine, but you still haven't answered my question - who owned the land prior to the arrival of the europeans? Why did the europeans engage in numerous wars with your people over land? why were your people herded onto reservations? You say that today the govt and municipalities own this vacant land - who preceded this current govt that you have ? wasnt it your former apartheid govt? how did they gain ownership of this land? Whether there were 3 million or 300 million blacks in your country when whites arrived is irrelevant - the point is that there were indigenous people on this land before them AND SOMEONE FROM THIS GROUP MUST HAVE LAID CLAIM TO THIS LAND - AGAIN I ASK WHY WERE THE EUROPEANS ENGAGED IN WARS WITH YOUR PEOPLE OVER LAND? Wealth is created when a person does something which another person is willing to buy. The other person can only buy if he himself has made something which another person is willing to buy. That's the barter system which was long formalised by whites into money, finances and economy. A per capita GDP of $1 000 means that the average single person in a particular country is able to work or produce things by himself which are universally considered to be valued at $1 000. A per capita GDP of $55 000 means that the average single person in a particular country is able to work or produce things by himself which are universally considered to be valued at $55 000. That's why GDP per capita is a important statistic because it shows how productive the average single person in that country is. It's not about who owns or controls what, it's about what an individual can do which creates valueright, but in order to create wealth you have to have access to the means to create it don't you? or do you create wealth out of thin air? can you create wealth if you do not own any land, technology or natural resources? lets use your country as an example - who owns the majority of the land in your country? who owns the mining corporations? who owns the technology which has enabled the creation of the goods and services? now if you have come to the same conclusion that i have ie that it is the whites and not the black south africans that means that the wealth or power (because once you have wealth you invariably acquire power) IS CONCENTRATED IN THE HANDS OF ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHILE THE OTHER GROUP REMAINS POOR AND POWERLESS. when one group has more power and wealth than another group - it can use that wealth and power to ABUSE and EXPLOIT THE poor and powerless group - you claim to be educated and yet you sound so ignorant. Power and wealth concentraated in the hands of a few is the reason why your parents and grandparents ended up being slaves in their own land. GDP per capita is what each individual produces in a country over a given period of time but it doesnt tell me anything about the standard of living in that country, it doesnt tell me anything about the literacy levels of a country, the infant mortality rates or the standard of health care therefore i fail to understand why you are focusing on it. your main focus should be on the level of development of blacks in your country in comparison to whites. Those who have scientific knowledge will always be superior. Indians and Chinese are now becoming very scientific and their expanding presence in Africa is beginning to create the same racial tension as it has always been with whites. It's not about whites but more about who "knows". If you went to school and got taught what white people know so that you become scientifically on par with them then you wouldn't be so against them. You just pushing an inferiority complex where you unknowingly realise that white people "know" how to dominate while you remain clueless. So you blame them for being better than you and you accuse them of upgrading themselves using you and your people and at your expense and stealing your old technologies which you yourself don't know how to replicate in modern times.First of all education or knowledge is not about following and copying everythign the white man rams down your throat - education is about acquiring knowledge which will enable you as a race of people to provide for yourself and your people and survive in a cut throat competitive world. This very important fact has never occurred to you because the whole of your life you have been brought up as a slave in your own country. The white man taught you to look up to him as a God this is why he can do no wrong in your eyes. It obviously hasnt occurred to your inferior mind that these white owned educational institutions that you glorify and worship were not designed for people like you - they were designed to mould, shape and prepare whites to rule over you - your presence in those places is a complete and utter waste of time because the knowledge you acquire there will not equip you for the life that awaits you on the outside. As a black man in a country owned and controlled by white supremacists you will not have access to the jobs or career opportunities that your white counterparts will have becase the system itself did not have you in mind when it was being created, as a result your so called knowledge and skills will become obsolete and you will end up frustrated and filled with rage because you will find that there is no place for a black man with a white western orientated education in a society run and controlled by white racists. by the way indians and chinese are not more scientifically gifted than africans - you might want to try reading about ancient african civilisations and the great strides that africans made in areas such as astronomy, medicine, agriculture, mining, metallurgy, architecture etc - the reason that whites control the world's resources to date is not down to innovation or ingenuity but brute force and theft. Everything they have today they acquired through the barrell of a gun. Genocide of indigenous people also played major roles in elevating them to the position that they are now in today- this was how they stole your own country from under the feet of your ancestors but you are too brainwashed, dim and ignorant to even recognise this basic fact. This type of moaning is also done by a few uneducated black South Africans who have a warped sense of entitlement. You need to go to school and get proper knowledge so that latter on in your work life you can receive regular calls and emails from white people who ask you how something is done or what procedures to follow, that's when you will stop hating them.hahahaha look who is talking about going to school - you need to read a book called the miseducation of the negro by carter woodson - you are a replica of the type of miseducated negro who acquires a eurocentric education which prepares him for a life of vast ignorance, subservience and uselessness. you claim to be educated but you are worse than a stark illiterate - what are you educated to do? i will tell you - you are educated to walk two steps behind baas and bow and genuflect at his feet, do you think he respects you? he just laughs at your pathetic attempt to mimic him, you are nothing more than a well trained pet dog - when baas says jump, you cry - "how high baas" - without baas you are dead. everything you think you have was given to you by baas, you have no independent ideas, no creativity, no self respect - baas manipulates and controls you like a puppet on a string and when he's done with you he will do away with you - why do you think he created the biological weapon HIV aids? Black South Africans live better lives compared to other Africans even though they are equally as poor. The development done by whites, even though it is mostly enjoyed by them, has allowed most blacks to not worry about lights going off, water quality and sanitation issues, mobility on roads rails or air, quality education and all other trickle down benefits which they don't deserve but we claim entitlement since this development is done on "our" landYou poor thing, baas throws you a few scraps and like the slave that you are you scrabble around on the ground fighting for them and then you have the nerve to think you are better than other africans because you are eating baas's leftover food. But to be honest with you your above statement is actually a lie - most africans do not live in segregated townships like black south africans - we dont have townships in nigeria and i know that in places like Botswana blacks enjoy a very high standard of living which is far better than what you claim you are enjoying in south africa. Besides your story about not having power cuts , bad sanitation is another blatant lie - there have been ongoing riots and demonstrations in almost all of your major townships over poor housing conditions, non existent electricity and water supply, high unemployment, poor job prospects - the list goes on so i think you are just trying to console yourself that you guys are better off when the reality is that you are actually worse off than most africans. Another comment that lacks thought. Since whites "ra.pe, pillage and plunder" not only South Africa but the entire continent including Nigeria it's good that our Afrikaans whites stayed behind to be accountable to those blacks who still have chips on their shoulders like JuJu unlike other whites who "ra.pe, pillage and plunder" your countries and then took a hike after being satisfiedYour ignorance and limited world view is a dead give away with the above statement - do you seriously think that the black south africans are in a position to hold the whites in your country to account? Hahahahaha - you really are dumb - listen you clown - the white south africans STILL CONTROL YOUR ECONOMY - YOUR BLACK ELITE TAKE ORDERS FROM THE WHITES - NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Oh and let me educate you about your so called freedom that you think you gained after Mandela was released - Mandela sold you guys out - he did a deal with the white capitalists who own your economy - the deal was that Mandela would tell his fellow ANC peers to end armed struggle against aparthied and in exchange he along with other top ANC officials would be allowed to get a slice of the pie while everyone else would be told to go to hell. What did your truth and reconciliation commission achieve? didnt it exonerate all the whites who perpetrated atrocities against your people and didnt it allow the whites to hold on to their ill gotten wealth? All you guys have now are a bunch of black elitists who now work on behalf of their former slave masters - its called neo colonialism baby - we have it in nigeria too!! You are showing your madness again. Your fist point is true though, South Africa was developed for the settlement of whites not blacks but now that blacks are enjoying this development they shouldn't be complaining but rather work towards extending the development. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING. We don't want whites to give us what they have, we want to build our own. In the past blacks were forced to go shop at white malls in the white suburbs but today blacks have EXPANDED the development by sticking up lots of malls in just one township called Sowetohahahaha - what a clown - you really crack me up!!! what are your people enjoying? crumbs? is that your idea of enjoyment- you guy's situation is like the case of a man whose property has been stolen by armed robbers and as the robbers drive past him in his own car with all of his property, they throw him one of his old shirts and he starts jumping up and down and crying with joy that at least he's been allowed to keep one shirt out of all the other more valuable stuff that the robbers were able to make away with!!! you guys are one huge joke!! Your HIV/Aids argument is just plain ridiculous. There are more people living with HIV/Aids in Nigeria than SA in real numbers, yes the Nigerian percentage is small because of the big population but the real number is higher than SA so does that mean whites also want to exterminate Nigerians?did you pull this information out of your a.rse cos it sounds like you just made it up? any stats to back that up? when i talk about the HIV aids epidemic in southern africa i dont mean just south africa - i mean botswana, zimbabwe, lesotho, namibia - everywhere that you have large white settlements - no one is denying that hiv aids is present in other parts of africa but there is a reason for such a high concentration of HIV aids in the southern african countries. And yes, the whites are intent in exterminating africans all over africa including nigeria - ever heard of AFRICOM? this is the beginning of europe and america's plan to plunger the entire continent into chaos. You must just accept that people always want to associate themselves with success. As much as America is divided, all of them including African Americans are proud to hold a US passport even Nigerians who land US passport have a tendency of feeling special and bragging about it because they are citizens of a successful nation. If South Africa was not achieving globally recognized success(which is intangible success) then we would be a hopelessly divided nation as I have said. And black South Africans are just like African Americans where we brag about past successes that we had nothing to do with and provided little or no contribution but it is these past successes that are making it easier for us to create successes in the present time. The majority of African Americans have a cordial working relationship with whites and that's how it is in SA. We are not best friends but we've learned to get along when working towards set goalsAgain you show your glaring ignorance - america was built on african slave labour so i dont know what you mean when you say african americans brag about past successes that they had nothing to do with - who the hell do you think picked the cotton, harvested the sugar, cleared ditches, mined the gold - the US white house was built by african slaves just in case you didnt know - jeez - you talk about me needing an education - do you know how ignorant you sound? who dug out all your gold and diamonds? - cos last time i checked it wasnt your afrikaaners or british settlers. The so called success that you claim you are acheiving is enjoyed by a tiny minority, why dont you go to the townships and talk about this success and see what they will do to you. people in those townships are crying out for help from your govt but because your govt is serving the interests of their white handlers ie the multinational corporations, the mining interests, the banking oligarchs and the imperialist govts of america and europe they refuse to help their own people. This is how it is going to remain because your ANC leadership sold out and they are now owned lock stock and barrell by the europeans and the americans. I know what i am talking about because our own leadership in nigeria did the exact same thing. |
IMF just finished with Greece and this is what the Greeks ended up with: drastic wage reductions mass job cuts cuts in health care, education and other important social services selling off of all govt owned assets to foreign investors massive tax hikes having to work beyond the statutory pensionable age all because their irresponsible govt collaborated with american and european banks to defraud their own citizens and cover up mounting debt. Instead of the culprits to have been brought to book for their greed and wickedness the Greek people are now being forced to pay up by way of the above mentioned methods. Unlike the nigerians the greeks went crazy and are still resisting all of the above proposed "economic reforms" Nigerians brace yourselves - after fuel subsidy removal there will be more goodies in store for you courtesy of Okonjo Iweala and her crew of IMF/World bank stooges. |
The loyal slaves (Goodluck and Okonjo Iweala) are carrying out their master's instructions. Have you heard of any african country that has ever recovered after IMF/world bank involvement? The master has come to ensure that the so called fuel subsidy removal which is planned to take off in January is put into place but most nigerians can not even see the link between IMF and the fuel subsidy removal. GEJ and Okonjo Iweala's plan is to grind nigerians into the dust, this is just the beginning. |
paniki:So are you saying that the land was handed over voluntarily to the white man? or was it just lying vacant with no one laying claim to it ? why were your people herded onto reservations and used by whites as cheap labour in the mines? i suppose you're going to tell me that black south africans chose to be used and exploited by whites rather than be in control of their own affairs? The good thing is that black people are not interested in competing with white people but are more focused in creating their own success through whatever legal means they choose.well, you will soon find out that every thing in life is a competition - especially where resources are limited. blacks can't create their own success when they don't have any control over the means of making money - everythign in your country which generates wealth remains in the hands of the whites. It has not, is not and probably will not be about racial competition since those major corporations already have significant black shareholdership thanks to BEEIm glad you said "probably" because wherever the white man goes it is ALWAYS about racial competition - do you know of any nation on this earth where whites live where race is not important? Even in your country where they are the minority they have turned your country upside down by making race the determinant of success, they even went as far as legalising racial discrimination - everywhere they go on this earth they implement this same formula of racial hierarchy where they place themselves at the top and blacks at the bottom of the socio economic ladder. This is juvenile thinking. Whites owe us nothing, South Africa is better off because of think-work done by white people, it is their inventiveness that has put South Africa at a higher level compared to other African countries. Black South Africans like me are lucky because the end of Apartheid allowed us to move into and then expand the formal systems that were long established by the whites. We are not like other African countries that had to start-up agencies from scratch, we probably would have failed. We just got the engine in top shape and running, black man just took the drivers seat and white man sat in the passenger seat and taught black man how to run a government and all other institutions. It has not been perfect but we are managing.hahaha you are completely brainwashed and delusional - the biggest trick the white man ever played on the black man was to convince him to accept his lowly position in the world, i dont know how you can say what you said above with a straight face - "they owe you nothing" - you are a joker! look at what they did to your ancestors and you say they owe you nothing, they took your own land away from you and you say they owe you nothing- they passed laws preventing your from going beyond a primary school education, they passed laws preventing you from owning land or property and being able to be self sufficient and you say they owe you nothing - you are a joker! they've even convinced you that you are not intellectually up to scratch and without any trace of embarrassment you actually talk about them doing all the "think work" arent you embarrassed to make such a statement? You say they've put south africa at a higher level compared to other african countries - but at whose expense? who is enjoying the fruits of your labour (because it was your labour that built south africa not theirs) you or them? can't you see that you have been abused and cheated? yes, they developed the country - but only for themselves - they used your labour to develop the country which has enabled them to live like kings while the majority black population live in townships wallowing away in poverty. you are mistaking the few crumbs that they have allowed you to enjoy as wealth - you still depend on them for employment which means you are vulnerable to any changes that they may decide to implement. the reason south africa is more developed than other african countries is becasue the white settlers came there with the aim of remaining permanently unlike the other african countries where they came for one purpose alone - to ra.pe, pillage and plunder, they were not interested in settling in any west african country becasue of the hot climate hence their decision to limit the level of development in those countries. Take congo for instance which has trillions of dollars worth of minerals in its soil - the whites did not settle there because of the stiflingly hot climate, instead King Leopold of Belgium chose to STEAL the entire country and then when the great patrice lumumba fought for independence the belgians along with the americans decided to have him murdered so that they could carry on milking the resources of congo for next to nothing. You better wake up and smell the coffee and realise that south africa was developed for the settlement of whites not blacks. You need to ask yourself why HIV aids is almost running at epidemic levels in all of the southern african countries that have large settlements of whites - ITS BECAUSE THEY WANT ALL OF YOU DEAD so that you will no longer be in the way of their plans. HIV aids is a biological weapon which was created by US military intelligence in a laboratory in 1969 and it was initially used by your former apartheid govt to decimate the black population of mainly southern african countries. Havent you noticed how HIV aids is prevalent in areas of africa with climates which are conducive to europeans? In addition these areas are also rich in natural resources. I'm one of many black South Africans who don't give a damn what white South Africans do or did or all that jazz, I'm more interested in creating my own success. The thing that I also do, which some don't like, is to acknowledge white mans contribution to South Africa. I grew up in Tembisa township in a matchbox house built by the white government, all of old Soweto, Alex, Katlehong, Vosloorus and others were built by the white government. Yes, blacks like to own these townships and refer fondly to them as if they built them but it's the whites who built most townships in Jozi. Black parents don't have to send their kids abroad because whites built world-class universities in our backyard. Basically if whites owe us anything then they have repaid us by grudgingly allowing us to use first-rate facilities which are now making it easier for us to make something of ourselvesyeah they built those townships because they needed to have a steady supply of cheap black labour close by to work in the mines - it was done for THEIR convenience not to help you in any way. Those so called world class universites that you are boasting about teach you to feel ashamed of your blackness and look up to the whites and going by all of the stuff you posted on here it looks like its working. You are being brainwashed and made to feel grateful towards people who brutalised and abused your parents and grand parents generations. This again shows your simpleton thinking. People want to associate themselves with success, America is seen to be a very successful country that's why so many Americans are proud to be American it has nothing to do with language or culture or any other nonsensical point. South Africans are proud to be South African because this country has achieved many successes recognized to most people around the world including yourselves even though you might not admit. A week or two ago UN delegates were showering SA with praise for successfully hosting the UN climate change talks COP 17 in Durban. It is this sort of feedback that creates a warm fuzzy feeling among South Africans and ultimately a sense of oneness that we are a nation of doers and achievers and not a nation of just black, white, coloured and indian. Race and racial tension exists but it doesn't define us.You obviously know nothing about america - america is a segregated country with blacks living a separate and unequal existence from their white counterparts - dont forget blacks in america were only allowed the right to vote in 1968, black people in america live in separate neighbourhoods, attend separate schools and socialise away from white americans. The system there (just like in your country) was set up deliberately by the white power structure in order to keep blacks permanently in a position of subservience and that is exactly what your white minority rulers have done to you. The so called success you brag about is not enjoyed by the majority of blacks in south africa only a few black elites enjoy this so called success. The system was designed by and for the white racists who still control your economy and they are the ones enjoying the success not the blacks. |
my mind boggles at how far gone this poster is - what is there to rejoice about? At least NOrth Korea did not end up as a third world puppet state manipulated by america and europe. what has nigeria gained from its relationship with america and europe ? I'll tell you misery, mass poverty, mass unemployment, mass transfer of nigeria's wealth into the hands of the IMF, world bank and the international oil companies. NOrth Korea fought and defended its sovereignty valiantly and is a nation that america and europe will always fear and respect unlike nigeria. |
KnowAll:what do you call an area filled with open drains displaying raw sewage and rubbish heaps in front of residential areas ? |
paniki:If you create wealth using stolen land and stolen labour - surely that wealth you have created is stolen as well? Its like saying an armed robber goes into a bank steals over £1m and then reinvests the money on the stock market and makes an additional profit of £2m and then turns around to crow about their business ingenuity and wealth creation skills - the point is they stole their initial investment to get what they have today and not only did they steal they excluded and marginalised blacks who are the rightful owners of the raw materials and land and are still doing that till today. the idea that black south africans can now somehow be able to compete with white south africans after 300 years of systematic exploitation indicates just how brainwashed , naive or both you are. Its like pitting a cripple and an olympic champion sprinter together in one race. how do black south africans compete with whites who own the major corporations, the banks, the insurance companies, the schools etc - what do you think will be the outcome of such competition? white south africans owe black south africans because they have an unfair advantage over them, this unfair advantage was not brought about by their hard work and ingenuity but by their theft of resources that belonged to the blacks as well as the subsequent brutalisation and exploitation of these same people. the white south africans are supposed to pay the blacks reparation for all the misery, poverty and endless suffering that they subjected them to. and by the way nationhood is not created as a result of different groups engaging in sports together - nationhood is created when a group of people who share a similar culture or language come together to promote a shared interest - black south africans and white south africans do not share similar languages or culture, one group was victimised and abused by the other and the other imposed their language and culture on the other forcing the weaker group to go along with it. This is why so many blacks in south africa are still filled with anger - their needs have not been met and they are still being short changed by a system which was designed to keep them poor and exploited. |
Hmm that money he's making at that american university must really be hitting the spot. first of all he endorsed the NTC despite the atrocities they committed against his own people now he has come again with endorsing homo.sexual rights - its so true that every man has his price. Soyinka has shown that he is not above being bought. |
igbo2011:the question of reparations for black africans is one that many africans have chosen to completely ignore. I have raise the issue a few times during debates on NL but most nigerians feel we need to move on and forget about reparations - can you beleive that? Qadaffi was able to secure reparations for Libya from Italy - so Libya is effectively the only african nation to have ever secured reparations from its former colonial masters. |
igbo2011:yes i thought as much - but it would be interesting to see if he is able to come back with anything to rebut what i said. did you watch the video i posted? what did you think of it? |
Do you know anything about Haiti's history? are you aware that the Haitians are the only black people in the world who succeeded in defeating the imperial armies of france, britain and spain? are you aware that Haiti's punishment for defeating their former slave masters was to subject them to an economic blockade that lasted for over 60 years? are you aware that europe and america forced Haiti to pay millions in reparation for having the temerity to free themselves from enslavement? are you aware that Haiti was deliberately blockaded for years by europe and america in order to impoverish it? are you aware that america invaded Haiti and installed corrupt puppets who collaborated with america to destroy what was left of Haiti's economy? Before your ancestors stole the wealth of africa europe was a third world cess pit - did you know that? infact large parts of europe are still third world cess pits - ever been to bulgaria, romania, czech republic and russia ? |
paniki:the only reason white south africans "get along" with blacks in south africa is because the whites are still in control of your economy, their wealth is intact and their status and position in your country is not threatened - the day any black south african comes to power to redress this imbalance is the day that you will have a repeat of what happened in zimbabwe, the whites will get the hell out of the country and europe and america will gang up to destroy south africa. What you have in south africa between whites and blacks is just a case of whites bamboozling some dim blacks into beleiving that you are all one big happy family, why dont you suggest that all of that wealth that those whites stole from you be redistributed in order to compensate blacks for 300 years of exploitation and abuse under apartheid - lets see just how long this your rainbow coalition thingy will last after that. |
Instead of nigerians to face up to their real enemy - the white man who as we speak is stealing and making away with the wealth of nigeria right under their noses they focus on black south africans who are still powerless in their own country. white south africans still own 99% of the wealth of south africa - thats why the majority of them remained behind even after apartheid supposedly ended. a few fled to europe and america after the ANC came to power but many of these people have run back to south africa because they know they are better off living off their stolen wealth in a land that does not belong to them. Mandela ended up negotiating away the future of the black south africans who are now discovering that they are still in economic bondage to their former slave masters. Nigerians should realise that their situation is not that much better than black south africans - in nigeria the ruling elite serve the interests of their white masters and dont give a damn about the nigerian populace just like the new black elite in south africa. In fact in many ways black south africans are better off than nigerians because at least they have some sort of welfare system in place which caters for the poor blacks whereas in nigeria the elite treat the nigerian masses like sh.it and provide them with nothing. |
Dr Claude Anderson gives an indepth presentation on how white america built its wealth on the backs of african slaves and set in motion a cycle of exploitation, exclusion and abuse of black americans which continues till today. He then goes on to draw up a plan for black america which could spell the end of the ongoing abuse and economic exploitation of blacks in america. This is a very interesting presentation which should be watched by any black person who is interested in finding a way out of the ongoing worldwide economic exploitation of the entire black race. Dr Claud Anderson is the author of the best seller Black labour, white wealth. He also authored another best seller - Powernomics [flash=300,300] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR4MPzdRouU&feature/related[/flash] |
you build a mall in the middle of a giant slum and call that development. when is Fashola going to get round to cleaning up that giant slum and providing decent housing for 90% of the population of that hell hole? what is the point of putting up a supermarket in a state that is the equivalent of a giant compost pit? |
over 70% of the population live in abject poverty and misery, the educational system is in a state of near collapse, roads are death traps, unemployment is on the rise, health care is non existent and yet these ba.stards think the most important think for them to do for the people of nigeria is to build shopping malls which only the nigerian elite class will be able to afford to shop in. smh |
igbo2011:when i watch videos like the one you posted above i just wonder whether there is a God. |
america's systematic ra.pe of DRC: Western multinational corporations’ attempts to cash in on the wealth of Congo’s resources have resulted in what many have called “Africa’s first world war,” claiming the lives of over 3 million people. The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) has been labeled “the richest patch of earth on the planet.” The valuable abundance of minerals and resources in the DRC has made it the target of attacks from U.S.-supported neighboring African countries Uganda and Rwanda.http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/19-american-companies-exploit-the-congo/ |
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