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justwise:
Get yourself checked into mental health hospital, it has come to that.

why should he check into a mental hospital?

can you put up at least one argument to rebut anything he has posted?

it is so easy to resort to insults but the difficult part is backing up your argument with a rebuttal that makes sense - are you equal to the task?

beaf - a question for you:

Is goodluck jonathan impotent or castrated?

see an excerpt in an article below in which this question was raised.

Is the president impotent or castrated?
This begs the question;- Is Goodluck Jonathan silently enabling the menace of Boko Haram to achieve certain goals of personal or foreign interest?

Related: NewsRescue- US Army Prepares for Nigeria’s Possible Break-up (2015)

In a story carried by the Nigerian Tribune newspaper on December 30th, 2011; an article written by Gordon Duff a popularly known national security specialist with decades of experience in Nigeria and an editor for the Veterans Today US magazine, the foreign plot to destroy Nigeria was described. Quoting Gordon Duff from the Nigerian Tribune

Doff said Boko Haram is real “but in its current formation, it is the construct of outside powers who plan to Balkanize Nigeria,” affirming that “Nigeria is, in itself, a construct that never should have existed.”

“I told my friends that Abuja would soon look like Islamabad, cameras, checkpoints, troops, that was the first part of the destabilisation plan. This is being done as we speak. Real nation building is not in the cards, only rape and destruction, debt and more debt.

http://www.newsrescue.com/2012/01/nigeria-targeted-for-destruction-gordon-duff-us/

thoth:
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Comunism failed not because it is inherently bad but because not enough countries adopted it, likewise many continental and regional economic policies failed because  many of those leaders are puppets and will always undermine the efforts of others.
Many African leaders stood by and left Ivory Coast to be invaded by French troops and Gbabo ousted. The somalians were attacked by the Ethiopians and Kenyans as a western proxy, Nigerian troops are used to terrorize and intimidate sudanese masses so that western corporations can exploit them. AU and OAU did nothing as Qaddafi was bombed.
I had a course in 2007 and that was where i heard that the "Ghana must go " saga was to pressure Mr Rawlings of Ghana to adopt US policies,now many Ghananians hates nigerians while the actual pepetrators remains in Ghana's good books.

I saw your posts and they are very encouraging .

thanks thoth - your posts reassure me that im not going crazy.

do you think nigerians will ever get to the point of being able to do this?:


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and if they do - will the nigerian govt use water canons or live ammunition?

thoth:
Don't let some posters frustrate you, keep in mind that some are working hard to achieve a goal that clearly opposes yours, just see it as a game.

Think of Africa as the Paradise that Europeans never had,sunshine,fertile lands,no earthquakes,tsunamies or typhoons and aboundance of natural resources.
There has been numerous attempts to exterminate Africans and some are still going on. We had transcripts of 1968,1969,1972-78,1981,1990-1992,1999,2005 of the Bilderberge Conference to show for a fact that the Ebola Virus was artificially created as a biological weapon and tested in Congo . Though we cannot infer from the transcripts the origin of AIDS, We know it has been used as an extermination tool particularly in Africa and the modes of insertion was clearly stated and debated on some of them-Zimbabwe'99 (1990-92,1999). There are other measures targeted at the African population but this is a delicate topic.

have you read NSSM 200 by former US National security advisor (during Nixon's tenure) Henry Kissinger?

He details in that memo various methods that can be used to cull the population of various third world nations that are considered a threat to america's national security - nigeria is one of the ones listed. this report was drafted in 1974 and is official US foreign policy.

Morpheus - ignorance is a disease - you are going to end up as just another statistic if you carry on falling for Sanusi and Okonjo Iweala's BS:

Nigeria is indeed in serious economic problem. For instance, the value of the currency has been devaluing against major foreign currencies. The official value of naira against dollar is currently 156 to a dollar and at the Bureau De Change, it goes for 165 against the dollar.

The governor of central bank, Sanusi sometime this year faulted the IMF for suggesting that the value of the naira be devalued to protect further depreciation of the foreign reserves.

However, the governor bowed to pressure and got the naira devalued. It is the same pressure from the Western powers that is pushing the government to remove fuel subsidy.

In Nigeria, removal of subsidy would necessarily lead to hike in fuel pump and such hike would trigger increment in the price of other commodities and services.

It is already been speculated that by next year, when subsidy might have been removed, Nigerians would have to pay as high as N140 per litre of petrol. The price is currently N65 per litre.

What this means is that Nigerians should gird up for tough times next year. This is because any increase in the price of fuel would push the cost of production in the manufacturing industry up.



Also, cost of transportation would go up and even operators of Small, Medium Scale Enterprises would not be able to continue in business because most of them relied on generators to power their machines and generators are powered by fuel.

Some civil society organizations and organized labour are urging Nigerians to come out and protest subsidy removal. The question is, can Nigerians occupy the “Three Arm Zone” as Americans “Occupied” the “Street.”

Subsidy removal is turning out to be another Bretton Woods Institutions’ anti-peoples’ policy. It is a neo-liberal agenda developed by those in authority. It is not a popular idea but that of the ruling power. It is becoming a dominant idea because in every political setting, the dominant idea is the idea of the ruling power.

Now that the government is bent on removing subsidy from fuel against people’s outcry, the question to ask is if this is the “Fresh Air” that President Goodluck promised Nigerians during his campaigning? –

http://www.newsrescue.com/2012/01/imf-forces-african-nations-to-remove-fuel-subsidies/

Morpheus and Beaf's heroes -

CHRISTINE LAGARDE OF THE IMF SITS BACK AND LAUGHS AT THESE PATHETIC AFRICAN NEO COLONIAL PUPPETS WHO LOVE ACTING AS IF THEY ARE IN CONTROL WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS THEY ARE NOTHING MORE THAN GLORIFIED HOUSEBOYS AND HOUSEGIRLS, YES CHRISTINE KEEP LAUGHING AT THESE FOOLISH SELLOUTS WHO HAVE SOLD THE BIRTH RIGHT OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE FOR CRUMBS FROM MASSA'S TABLE


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http://www.newsrescue.com/2012/01/imf-forces-african-nations-to-remove-fuel-subsidies/

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=838834.msg9917455#msg9917455 date=1325986658]Yes, started the new year with hope, but concerned about ongoing repercussions in Naija.

Here's the link: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=838179.html. 
Oops.  I said some not-so-nice things about him. lol.  But we're still cool, of course?    [/quote]i know what you mean - its not looking good in nigeria right now and things are set to get even worse because GEJ will do everythign possible to resist any opposition from the people.

thanks for the clip - Yeah, Nzeogwu was and remains a hero in my opinion - he was a nationalist and took a very courageous step by trying to get rid of the neo colonial puppets that had been put in place by the british.  The british feared him and did everything possible to ensure that his coup would not succeed -this is why the coup was labelled an igbo coup by the british media instead of a revolution - the british had worked so hard to ensure that their appointed puppets would take over the reins of power - they couldnt bear the idea of all their hard work going to waste.

i beleive that the british whipped up the anti igbo hatred which led to the pogroms in the north in July 66 and the subsequent civil war - they had a motive - to keep the northern elites in power and the igbos weak and powerless and therefore no threat to their economic interests.

of course we're still cool sis, you are entitled to  your opinion 

This man will remain a hero in the hearts and minds of many nigerians like myself who want to see an end to corruption and neo colonialism - may his soul rest in perfect peace.

thoth:
Considering the extent that their operations has been succesfull the only bet is to educate the masses as much as we can, they have more money than us,they have bought all the assumed leaders from Ohaneze to OPC, The goverment is a collosal puppet show, our aim should be to unite all nigerians and fight them, since they continously use our puppet leaders to divide us across cultural lines only EDUCATING the masses and helping them identify OUR COMMON ENEMY will UNITE us and fight together with one objective. Anything else will play us more into their hands.

I've been reading through your posts and i must say you are very very knowledgeable on international affairs and how they affect nigeria.

You sound like someone who has had a lot of exposure - you must feel a lot of frustration reading most of the posts on here.

The nigerian historian Chinweizu Ibekwe once stated that if no black african country is able to get its act together by the end of the 21st century black africans are going to suffer the same fate as the native americans and the aborigines of australia, new zealand and tasmania ie extermination  at the hands of europeans - here is what he says:

[b]The 20th century has been the most disastrous century, so far, for Black Africa. It was the century in which, under colonialism, Black Africa was subjected to culturecide at the hands of White Power. That culturecide destroyed our ability to resist the genocide that is now taking place. As a result, this 21st century is likely to see the physical extermination of Black Africans, unless those now under 30 organize and defeat the extermination campaign that white power has already unleashed on Black Africa. Therefore,

2] The problem of the 21st century is the problem of African Power – how to build it, and enough of it, to end the long era of our defeats and disasters in the race war, to prevent our extermination, and to ensure our dignity.

3] We should particularly note that Lugardism is a false framework, and these Lugardist states, Nigeria included, are the wrong foundation for building African Power[/size]

http://www.bnvillage.co.uk/news-politics-village/88291-africans-will-exterminated-21st-century.html

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do you agree with this?

Also africans have attempted to end the neo colonial exploitation and abuse by coming up with economic policies which will help grow their economies - have you heard of the lagos plan which was deviced by various african countries in the 1980s?  African countries tried to implement it but were blocked by america and europe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Plan_of_Action

igbo 2011 - you are on point as usual - sadly everything you wrote will go over the collective heads of the intended recipients who have zero knowledge or understanding of world history.

morpheus24:
Yep, just like when u wouldn't run searches on my threads

oh its t.it for t.at now is it  

So until we do away with western influence will we ever be able to implement plans that were formed 30 + years ago. While we are waiting for this great paradigm shift in the "african" way of doing things, others are not merely talking a good fight they are actually doing real on the ground work.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/28/world/africa/swaniker-african-voices/index.html

Good luck with exposing the Whiteman's evils and "telling it to his face"

I see you are still relying on propaganda outlets like CNN for news -

i watched the video and as soon as the guy started talking about his background i smelt a rat - why did he spend his childhood moving from one african country to another every 4 years ? wasnt he in school?

i also find his story about running a school at the age of 18 highly implausible-  but hey this is CNN - the same people who have turned lying into a fine art.

first of all i would like to know who is funding this his "elite leadership school" western NGO's by any chance? because we all know that NGO's act as spies for their respective countries.

if western govts are that concerned about the poor standard of education in africa why do they advise african countries indebted to western financial institutions to cut spending on education and divert these monies into servicing their debts?

if they are so concerned about developing and moulding future african leaders why not encourage individual african countries to spend more on education instead of advising the opposite.

secondly he says he recruits his pupils from refugee camps all over africa and these pupils are selected not only on the basis of their intellectual abiliy but their ability to demonstrate - courage, passion, perseverance and good values - fine, those are all good qualities required for good leaders but if these kids are being moulded by people with an ulterior motive they could be exploited and used to create robotic zombies who will follow orders and never challenge their benefactors  - in other words one has to wonder whehter what this guy is running is some sort of mind control outfit that will brainwash vulnerable african children and turn them into pliant puppets.

The fact that he intends to recruit at least 6,000 pupils from all over africa sends up further red flags - what is the real motive behind this?

Is it to nurture and mould impressionable young africans  who will serve as the next generation of african puppet leaders ?

Will these children become the new idi amins, mobutu seseko or  allassane ouattara - malleable puppets who follow orders and never turn on their handlers?
actually idi amin eventually turned on his handlers - thats why he was toppled but im sure you get what im trying to say here.

Morpheus the problem with you is that like most nigerians you suffer from inferiority complex - you worship and place on a pedestal anything that comes with a western seal of approval - stop relying on propaganda for your information as i can see that it has robbed you of the ability to think critically.

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i noticed you didnt answer any of my questions - 

africa figured out what was best for it a long time ago - In the 1980s african countries got together and drafted an economic plan entitled: the lagos plan of action for the economic development of africa:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Plan_of_Action

Sadly the western nations blocked all attempts by african nations to implement it.

You are very resistant to knowledge and that is what will lead to your downfall. 

good luck mate

thoth:
We are now at the PsyOps stage, IMF/World Bank/AFRICOM are working together simultenously achieve full spectrum domination in Africa(2nd colonisation) .
Nigerians in this case is being prepared psychological for the next stage of the operation. Meanwhile the international community is also being prepared as well for the next stage, as soon as the image of a corrupt,terrorist infested,poor and malfuntioning nation is complete and it is established that nigeria is a threat to World Peace and foreign assistance should be used to contain the threat because the nation lacks the ability then the next stage is ushered in.

Is it too late to stop them in their tracks? what can nigerians do to prevent this?

morpheus24:
You can't have a civil arguement with someone who has convinced himself that the IMF and World bank are secret imperious organizations that are bent on controlling world resources and forcing their economic policies down the throat of suffering massess of people via their puppets. Not possible!

You also cannot convince a closet socialist/marxist ideologue who masks his political and economic views under the guise of empathy for the suffering masses of his homeland while enjoying the lifestyles of the same economies he advocates against.  I am not going to bother bantering economic policies with you. Its a waste of valuable time.  I will however state my stance on the fuel subsidy issue:

1. I am in agreement with the macro economic implications that Nigeria will face down the line if it continues to subsidize consumption over production potentials. (The opposing arguement being there are no real subsidies being rendered to the people in the first place)

2. The IMF and World bank did not create good governance and corruption problems in Nigeria  which are the underlying issues fueling the subsidy  removal backlash

3. Government should not be in the business of building or maintaining refineries. They have shown time and time again that they are grossly inefficient and ineffective in managing any enterprise in Nigeria.

4. A step down approach to reducing fuel subsidies over a given period of time should have been the most ideal process given that on the other side of the arguement government has not demonstrated its ability to manage or implement structural policies that would create the enabling environment necessary to facilitate economic growth vis a vis power/electricity generation,oil refining and infrastruture to convince the populous of the benefits of their subsidy removal agenda.
Right Cap28.
Lamido Sanusi a student of ABU and  University in Sudan, who studied mostly Arabic and philosophy is an agent of the dubious organization known as the IMF.  An affluent grand son of the Sultan of Sokoto who was obviously groomed step into the high ranks of First bank in Nigeria via his family connections is in cahoots with capitalist thugs.

An admirer of one of the greatest communists of our time, Chairman Mao, paying homage to his idol by often dressing like the Chinese dictaror was hand picked by a bunch of thieving corporate cartels to sell Nigeria off to them and put its people in perpetual servitude.  That about sums up the bloke. Did I miss anything?

your conspiracies know no bounds  *Shaking my head*
Isn't it about time you stopped hiding out in self imposed exile and come fight the good fight against the governemnt you speak against and help us usher in our new revolutionary marxist government that will serve the people, drive the puppeteers and the profiteerers away and bring forth this new egalitarian dream you have for your HOME Country.

Regurgitating vile sentiments you read in propagandist books isn't doing much for me. I am waiting to see you reporting from the streets of Nigeria!

Until then.

All Hail Comrade  Cap28!

you are in for a very harsh awakening if you still havent figured out what the IMF and the world bank's motives are in africa.

i dont mask my views under the guise of marxism - infact i dont subscribe to any western political  ideology as none were designed for the economic or psychological empowerment of african peoples.

In response to your points:

1 where is the proof that the nigerian govt are actually subsidising petroleum products - General Buhari says that nigeria has never subsidised petrol and Professor Tam David West (former petroleum minister during buhari's tenure)  reiterated this is an interview in december last year so who do we beleive? I know who i beleive.

2 If the IMF didnt back corruption in nigeria - why was Buhari (who refused to implement SAP and borrow even more loans from the western banking cartels) removed and replaced with IBB who was known to the CIA as a drug baron? 

Was it a coincidence that as soon as IBB assumed office the first thing he did was to borrow loans from the IMF and implement SAP?

Why was IBB allowed to remain in power for 8 years and why did drug trafficking and assassinations go through the roof during his tenure?

3 how come all four of nigeria's refineries were working during buhari's tenure? 

4 during Buhari's tenure various economic proposals to encourage economic growth were put before western creditors by buhari's economic team but they were either ignored or blocked and replaced with the recommendation that nigeria implement SAP.

what has studying arabic in sudan got to do with being a western stooge - the saudi royal family, the qatar royal family and the entire arab league are western puppets
the saudi and qatari royal families are all aristocratic muslim families - i dont get where you are trying to go with that point.

I dont know if you know this but the elites nearly always work in collaboration with western capitalists - they do so because they have a common interest - to hold on to their wealth, power and status in society.

The Saudi royal family are america and britain's greatest arab ally - this is why their brutal regime remains untouched despite the so called arab spring going on throughout the middle east.

whether Sanusi likes to spend his spare time dressing up as Mao or Pol Pot of Cambodia is neither here nor there - the fact of the matter is that he is an agent of neo colonialism.  He lied to the nigerian people that the naira would not be devalued but is in the process of doing just that. by the way it is still possible to have two opposing ideological viewpoints at the same time after all China is still under communist rule but practices capitalist economic policies.

how do you propose that i start a communist revolution in a country blinded by tribalism, greed and corruption.  in order for a revolution to be successful there must be a strong sense of nationalism bonding majority of the populace together, it is very hard to engender nationalism amongst a divided people - this is what the great Nzeogwu discovered.

4 Play:
If it is a known fact, no one will listen to the IMF, never mind borrow from it and it's role will be redundant. It defies logic to claim that by asking that we cut spending, this will increase the possibility of us going bankrupt. Being miserly doesn't make you go broke. In the 70s, we spent to our hearts delight, was it not Gowon that said then that he did not know what to do with our oil revenues. We had the Udorji awards, FESTAC 77, e.t.c

By the 80s when oil prices crashed, we became bankrupt and had to resort to the IMF as we were shut out by other lenders. In an ironic twist, like someone who blames the fire service for fires, we blamed the IMF for our being bankrupt.

Try this thought experiment, if you lend money, is it in your interest that the people who borrow from you suffer hardship? You want your money back and that's only possible if your borrowers are successful.

Now, I know you're going say that a lender has a vested interest in keeping countries borrowing. Even using that line of reasoning, economically developed countries borrow more not less. The US, the king of all borrowers, owes 15 trillion dollars in sovereign debt. So even if the IMF wants us to keep borrowing, it is in their interest that we keep growing wealthier so that our lending needs will be more.

I dont agree with your analysis and i think you are giving the IMF a lot of credit without appreciating that they work hand in hand with the same corrupt international banks which cause many african countries to end up with the debt in the first place.

the easiest way to understand the underhand way in which the IMF works with other western banks to undermine the economies of african countries is to trace the root cause of the debt.

lets take a look at how nigeria ended up in debt.

By the early 1980s the price of oil had begun to fall  - this is in sharp contrast to what the situation was in the 1970s or the oil boom period - during this period nigeria made  huge profits and it was during this period that the western banks encouraged nigeria to spend and even borrow in order to finance the building of various prestige or white elephant projects.

Majority of these projects were awarded to western construction companies who made huge profits so you can see they had a vested interest in us borrowing more money than we were making.
Nigeria continued along this path following advice given to them by a number of western economists and banks until the price of crude oil started to fall on the world market - it was at this point that nigeria realised that they had been taken for a ride by the western govts/banks.  

One thing you havent taken into consideration is the fact that many african countries do not operate a diversified economy, as a result, most of their revenue comes from dependence on one major export - in the case of nigeria - oil.  This leaves many african countries vulnerable to  fluctuation in commodity prices.

If african countries were not so dependant on just one major export they could absorb these kind of  losses more easily and would not find themselves at the mercy of the international banking cartels when the prices of their exports dropped.

Since many african countries are following economic policies designed to suit the needs of their former colonial masters and not the needs of their own people it is virtually impossible for them to resolve this major problem.  for example why isnt nigeria diversifying into agricultural exports? why doesnt it subsidise agricultural production in order to enable nigeria produce enough food for its own consumption as well as export?

the answer is if nigeria were to produce its own food supply america and europe would lose a sizeable chunk of its export market  - this is something the western economies definitely do not want - therefore they coerce nigeria into implementing harmful economic policies which destroy domestic production and create an environment designed to suit the needs of foreign investors.

Someone on this thread has compared the IMF to a loan shark and i think that is a very accurate depiction - in fact i woudl go a step further and describe them as an international mafia organisation - their friends loan you money knowing full well that your economic policy is unsustainable and then when you eventually go bankrupt the international mafia federation steps in and agrees to loan you even more money at even higher interest rates as long as you agree to sell up every valuable asset in your country to them and their friends at vastly reduced rates. In addition you have to allow them to set up sweat shops in your country where they will then go about using your citizens as cheap labour in order to further maximise their profits. These profits will then be exported back to their own countries of origin (tax free of course) and used to further build and develop their own economies.

Can someone please explain to me how removing trade tarrifs promotes economic growth?

doesnt removal of trade tarriffs result in your markets being flooded with cheap foreign imports and the collapse of domestic production and industry?

how about the selling off of public utitlies like airlines and electricity companies to foreign investors at reduced prices- how does this benefit local consumers?

is it sound economic policy to allow foreigners to buy up valuable govt run assets?

how about asking you to cut spending on education and healthcare? - is it possible to build a first rate economy without an educated and healthy workforce?

General Buhari who was nigeria's head of state at the time REFUSED to go along with the IMF   - he beleived that we didnt need to borrow more money in order to get out of debt - he offered to renegotiate a deal which would involve cancellation of existing debt.

By the way this debt had been inflated and had quadrupled in sized not because we were still borrowing but because of the interest rates which were rising at an alarming rate year on year.
- the IMF refused, Buhari was toppled and replaced with IBB and  the rest is history.

morpheus24:
Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

morpheus -wakey wakey!!!

how are you enjoying the fuel subsidy removal and how does it feel to be betrayed by your hero Sanusi? - remember i warned you about him a few months back. I told you that he takes his instructions from the IMF not the other way around - hope you've been reading his comments regarding this subsidy removal.

Hope you know Sanusi would never be where he is today if he were not collaborating with all of the international banking cartels.

He has spent the past couple of months lying to all of you about his stance on the devaluation of the naira - he only did this because the elections had not yet taken place, now that his fellow IMF agent GEJ has succeeded in fooling nigerians into voting him into office he can now revert back to his true position.

Isnt it about time you stopped allowing yourself to be bamboozled by these crooks?

ps - the devaluation of the naira is coming soon - so hope you've started tightening your belt.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=838834.msg9910774#msg9910774 date=1325887843]  You were my choice for Politics Section Poster of 2010, remember.  But you're slighyly less active there now.  (I don't blame you - NL can be more trouble than it's worth.)  Of course, the subsidy removal is really all anyone is talking about.  I myself have talked to family in Lagos every day since the New Year - there is some major sense of dread, bro.  Prices of some food/commodities have shot up 3-fold -  the boys are restless.   Also, you should check out the Kaduna Nzeogwu thread.  I'm not sold on him, but If I remember correctly, you and a few other posters I respect think well of him.[/quote]Yeah i remember that, thanks again for your support.
i've more or less given up on the politics section because majority of the posters on there are not living in the real world.

not trying to toot my horn or anything but i remember warning many nairalanders about the coming recolonisation of africa and all i got was abuse.  All i heard constantly was "why are you always blaming the white man for your problems?" now it is crystal clear that this same white man that these dullards have been defending demanded for the removal of this fuel subsidy.

like you i've been in touch with my family back home and they are all  in shock over what GEJ and his bandwagon of criminals have done - we can only wait and see how this is going to play out.  Hopefully nigerians will refuse to accept this act of extreme callousness. 

Kaduna Nzeogwu is my hero and i have remained fascinated by the extreme courage, intelligence and discipline that he showed during one of the most turbulent periods in our history.

Had he along with the other young majors succeeded with the January 66 coup, i beleive nigeria would by now have become an economic succcess story just as Libya was before the satanic invasion of NATO.

may his soul continue to rest in peace.

have you got the link for his thread?

catch you later, hope you are well though.

Danka7777:
You are absolutely right. Just wish Nigerians would listen. I personally, I am not a fan of Kayode but when truth is spoken, I don't care whose mouth its coming out from, I just listen.

All Nigerians on this forum, please watch this video on youtube, link below. You don't have to watch the whole 10:24-minute clip, though I recommend watching the whole clip. However, if time is of the essence for you, simply fast forward to 05:45min and watch up until  7:01 min. You will be shocked and may have to rethink your view on one of our past leaders. This leader, I won't name his name but will let you watch the video and figure out for yourselves. He fought the IMF/World Bank  aka International banker with every fiber of his being and they came after hard. I will comment further after you all have watch it and see what you have to say.

Wish you all will understand the PEOPLE who control this world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeW7QCVN8mw

Yes i watched it - that was a good interview. I've seen that particular clip before, Farrakhan is a great man and he understands whats going on.

Have you read "confessions of an economic hitman by John Perkins?

If  you havent try and do so - the author explains how the US govt blackmails and murders the leaders of resource rich third world countries in order to gain control over their natural resources.John Perkins worked as a cheif economist or economic hitman for a major US consulting firm where he was subsequently hired by the NSA (National Security Agency) to blackmail/threaten third world countries into taking on IMF and world bank loans - he describes how the process works here:


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[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=838834.msg9909430#msg9909430 date=1325873793]hehehehe.  I've already crowned him.

The Indisputable Champion Analyst of World History & Diplomacy, Current Affairs and International News = CAP28. 

I actually didn't intend to force an election on us.  I simply wanted to reminisce over the past year and acknowledge posters that I feel contributed immensely to this section.  

But if majority of people want an official (s)election, someone else can take over the reins.  You'll need to pick a date for end of nomination and simply count the results and declare from there.[/quote]all this for moi?

awww i am not worthy my dear but thank you.

Beaf:
MORPHEUS24 is the one.

We do not need any conspiracy theory addled types or those that might inhale psychedelic stuff before logging on.

Hmm but do we need apologists for useless and corrupt politicians talking trash all over NL?

NLers - you decide.

plaetton:
Fani-Kayode is a janus-faced professional Bottom-kisser with no personility. Only In Nigeria would a man facing charges of corruption make disparaging public statements on another person of impeccable integrity.
For those who criticising  The finance minister, ask yourselves a few questions.

1. Is she in any way responsible for the exchange rate of the naira( a measure of a nations productive capacity)?

2. Is responsible for importing fuel, a product that we produce at the cheapest cost in world?

3. Is she responsible for the fact that our three refinaries are almost non-functional despite the fact we allocate up to $600 million per year for their maintenance?

4. Is she repeonsible for the fact that the crude iol allocated for domestic refinaries are unaccounted for and are diverted for sale by powerful individuals?

5. Is she responsible for the fact that a poor donor- recieving nation like Nigeria can burn $8 billion a year subsidizing a commodity that we carelessly burn while idling away on traffic jams?

The frustrations of Nigerians are very understandable. But if there is to be any revolution in Nigeria, we have to know who the enemies are. Nigeria are very very funny and difficult people. While OBJ was single-handedly batlling the many cabals on all fronts, many of you were jeering and booing him. When yaradua came  to power, it took the cabala just 2 yrs to undue most of the laudfable achievements of OBJ. Most of you cowards were silent.
Today, an honest person has come to rebuild and once again, all am hearing are booos.

Nigeria needs 30 consecutive yrs of of at least 7% economic growth for us to glimpse any type eldorado. That is the sad fact.There are no miracles and no hail marys about that. I know you are all miracle crazed people. 30yrs of of honest commitment, discipline and some hardships to rebuild Nigeria into what awolowo and Zik dreamed of.

What we should demand, if necessary, by force  is honest commitment by those entrusted with tasks of rebuilding Nigeria. We know the corrupt leaders like Fani-Kayode. We should make life unbearable for them. That should be the Nigerian version of the Arab spring.

and Okonjo Iweala is what?  what do you call a woman who agrees to hand over $35 billion of nigeria's foreign reserves in full and final settlement of a fictitious debt?

what do you call a woman who failed in her duty to defend the interests of her own nation by failing to negotiate for the complete cancellation of a fictitious debt?

how much money does america owe to china, japan and various  european nations? isnt it more than $3trillion - do you see america making any effort to part with such a gargantuan sum any time soon?

if america with a debt of $15 trillion can choose not to pay off its creditors why would nigeria a country where 70% of the populace live in abject poverty think it a good idea to pay a mind boggling $35 billion to foreign creditors in a space of just one year to its own supposed creditors? 

when buhari was in power why didnt he tow the same path?

this is the woman you praise.

a so called patriot who demanded that her salary be paid in foreign currency - is that the behaviour of someone who cares about the welfare of her people ?

i dont know much about Fani Kayode but the point is that most of what he says in his article is accurate.

I would advise you to check the history of the world bank and the IMF and find out how these two institutions have destroyed almost every single african economy that they have had any involvement with. 

In fact an american economist by the name of Joseph Stiglitz described the IMF as an organisation populated with third rate economists.

Okonjo Iweala is definitely one of them - why arent any american economists recommending the kind of economic reforms for their own economy that she recommends for nigeria?

Many of our people are overcome with inferiority whenver they hear that a person attended Yale, Oxford, Harvard or Cambridge -the question you should be asking yourself is who were those institutions set up to benefit?
were they set up to provide future african leaders who would build and develop their own economies or were they set up to provide future white supremacists who would carry on the racist and exploitative legacy of their ancestors.

Okonjo Iweala is an agent of neo colonialism - her role is to facilitate her western masters in the transfer of wealth from her own country into the coffers of her western masters - this is a work in progress -she started off with the so called debt repayment fiasco and now she's back to carry on the task that has been assigned to her - the repartriation of wealth from nigeria into the hands of the IMF, the world bank and the multi national corporations.

this fuel subsidy removal was one of the many conditions that the IMF stipulated in exchange for a reduction of our supposed debt - they are not even bothering to hide the fact that they were behind it from the beginning.

I therefore find it mindboggling when i hear people like you continuing to give this woman your support.

the western powers are only interested in ensuring that their puppets (Okonjo iweala, obasanjo and GEJ) create an economic environment that favours their multinational businesses and their banks.  they are not interested in creating an economy which favours the nigerian people.

As far as they are concerned nigeria's role is to continue to be a supplier of cheap raw materials and cheap labour.

why would any western power want you to become a competitor with them? for what purpose? don't you understand that the western powers - specifically america wants to retain its position in the world - why has it invaded and stolen the wealth of other countries for over 150 years? was it doign that for the fun of it?

to answer your questions

the IMF have already demanded that the naira be devalued and their loyal servant Sanusi (despite earlier protestations) is in the process of implementing this .
Okonjo Iweala may not be directly responsible for nigeria's decision to import fuel but she is part of the same corrupt and western controlled puppet govt - was nigeria importing fuel during buhari's tenure ?

she may not be responsible for the fact that our refineries have broken down but again she is part of the corrupt govt .  If she were an honest person she would have nothign to do with these bandits - but as far as she is concerned as long as she gets paid a quarter of a million dollars a year thats all that matters to her.

how do you know we spend $8 billion a year subsidising fuel - according to Professor Tam David WEst and General Buhari - nigeria has never subsidised fuel.

this fuel subsidy story may be just another scam to con nigerians into accepting a further plunge in their standard of living.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=838834.msg9894748#msg9894748 date=1325693117]I am taking this opportunity to commend my personal choice for 2011 FOREIGN AFFAIRS POSTER OF THE YEAR 2011.

There was no official election in this section https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-825481.0.html, but. . .

CAP28.  You are my choice.

I thought we all could take this opportunity to mention the posts or threads that were most memorable or funniest or most meaningful, etc., to us.  You could also agree or disagree with my choice of Best Poster of 2011 and select your own.  Feel free to mention some worthy runners-up too.

You don't get a car or cash award, so no acrimony necessary. I would love to re-visit some of the discussions from last year, so feel free to give a summary or provide links to the ones you especially enjoy.[/quote]sis, thanks for this,  im honoured 

guys  - thanks for the nomination - im overcome with emotion 

my own nomination is igbo 2011 though.

Okonjo Iweala is the problem and as long as she is allowed to remain in power she will remain the problem.

Fani Kayode is right in his analysis of the IMF/world bank plan for nigeria.  Okonjo Iweala is merely their house maid carrying out their instructions.

However Fani Kayode seems to be totally unaware of what happens to countries who refuse to obey the IMF/world bank dictates - He should try reading the economic hitman by John Perkins.

Omo Tier1 you are making  a lot of  sense.

NIgerians pay a range of taxes and have to cope with terrible roads, substandard housing, non existent health care and substandard educational institutions.

what does the nigerian govt do with the revenue generated from the tax levied against nigerians?

I hope that nigerians will not allow goodluck jonathan and his bandwagon of criminals to get away with this callous and inhuman decision.

could it be because they dont feel you should be protesting?

eaxes:
thank you my friend.You are one smart brother. The americans are praying that boko haram bombs their embassy so they can get an excuse to get into Nigeria.
The americans are sponsoring all these terrorist groups around the world to fuflfil an agenda.
The dominos are falling in place.The have achived success in afghanistan( remember 9/11 was a false flag carried out by CIA to get into middle east), iraq, libya, now syria.Niogeria is next.

thanks bro, boko haram = CIA - just as al qaeda = CIA -the americans are using boko haram to destabilise nigeria in order to occupy nigeria and possibly partitition it into two parts just as they did with sudan - why? in order to end all chinese access to oil and gas concessions - this is one of the reasons that libya was taken down - china had huge oil and gas concessions in libya - they were the first to leave and abandon their contracts when nato obtained the no fly zone.

If Boko Haram attacks the US embassy - the americans will deploy troops to nigeria, this will utlimately lead to the setting up of a US military base - which is what the americans have wanted from day one. Nigeria - watch out -you are now looking at occupation by US troops.

It turns out that this fuel subsidy is just another scam that your govt is running on you and many  on here are bursting a bloodvessel defending something that is nothing more than a giant scam that the criminal nigerian govt are perpetrating against the unsuspecting masses:

listen to a nigerian man asking nigerians to resist this attempt by the criminal govt of goodluck jonathan to dupe and defraud the nigerian people

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dmainboss:
^^^Trying to derail the topic again with this old man? What does he know about the economy. All his kind knows is to marry more wives or join the army. From where he comes from, they tell you if you are poor, it is your destiny. How many almajiris has he taken off the streets? Please stick to topic man. dont insult our intelligence and dont let us derail

Intelligence? dont flatter yourself - i can think of a number of words to describe your way of thinking but intelligent wouldnt be one of them.

You all deserve what awaits you at the hands of this criminal govt as you cant tell the difference between genuine leaders and fraudsters.

during this man's tenure all four of nigeria's refineries were working at full capacity all of sudden GEJ and his bandwagon of theives sell you this pathetic lie about fuel subsidies.

Hasnt GEJ condemned most of you to a life of grim poverty already?

General Buhari: supposed fuel subsidy is a massive fraud

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General Buhari - the only nigerian head of state to date who had anything worthwhile to offer the nigerian people states here that the supposed fuel subsidy is a massive fraud and is merely an excuse being used to squeeze even more from the impoverished masses.

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dmainboss:
First, you do have a right to post. I was only referring to the content of your post.

Having said that, you are going round in circles. I have already stated that what we lack in Nigeria is infrastructure, so we complely agree on that. But your previous post postulated that there is high cost of living in Nigeria. Very untrue.

Please stop quoting the cliche Nigerian NGO's quote when they want to collect funds from International organisations. 70% percent of Nigerians do not, i repeat, do not live on $1 dollar a day. I have traveled several states during this holiday period and I don't know where you lot get those cliches from. They are completely false. $1 is the cost of 2 bottles of soft drinks. Most Nigerians will afford that daily without stress. $1 is the profit you make from selling 3 bags of pure water. An average pure water seller can sell over 15 to 20 bags in a day in urban centers and around 10bags a day minimum in rural centers. And that us not normally the only thing they sell. Please stop peddling those false figures. All the artisan I know around me constantly drink at least 2 bottles to 4 bottles of star daily. except those that don't drink. Please stop. It is only almajiris that that will apply to and they are not 70 million.

Food prices are not so high in comparison to other countries. We say that they are so high because we are humans and have many needs we need to meet, but in reference to your post, they are not so high. In Lagos where you have one of the highest cost of living, I can eat comfortably with N100. With n150, I can eat with a decent piece of meat. Not saying that is the best we should have, but am only speaking in relation to your post. In other states, it could be less. If you want to eat in Tantalizer and Mr Biggs, then you will have to pay big bucks. But that is not the norm.

My point is simple. What we really suffer is infrastructural development.

I dont know why we derive pleasure in lying to ourselves - if the cost of living is low why do so many nigerians queue up endlessly outside various embassies of the world in a bid to get the hell out of the country?

why were there so many nigerians living in libya?  why did many of them come back to talk about how much better their standard of livign was when they were in libya?  

we love lying to ourselves.