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THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF AFRICA'S RE- ENSLAVEMENT.

NIGERIA IS ABOUT TO BE RE COLONISED AND OCCUPIED BY AMERICAN TROOPS.

THE AMERICANS DO NOT GIVE A RAT'S ARSE ABOUT THE WELL BEING OF NIGERIANS - SOON YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH!!!BOKO HARAM IS A SMOKE SCREEN JUST AS THE RIGHT TO PROTECT CIVILLIANS WAS USED BY THEM IN ORDER TO INVADE LIBYA  - WAKE UP!!!

IT IS TIME FOR NIGERIANS TO WAKE UP AND REALISE THAT THEY WILL SOON BE COMPLETELY STRIPPED OF THE REMAINING RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE.

THEY ARE ALREADY CONTROLLING NIGERIA'S  ECONOMY BY WAY OF THE IMF AND THE WORLD BANK NOW THEY INTEND TO TAKE PHYSICAL CONTROL OF THE COUNTRY BY WAY OF THEIR MILITARY MACHINE KNOWN AS US AFRICOM- THIS IS THE BERLIN CONFERENCE OF 1885 ALL OVER AGAIN:


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ak 47mann

if you knew what these people think of africans you would be singing a different tune.

They dont even see any of us as human - all they see is the oil - why didnt they intervene in Rwanda when 1 million people were killed in a space of 2 months?  

why didnt they intervene in liberia - a colony they created for their  former slaves? instead they installed the americo liberians as a puppet govt who oppressed and exploited the indigenous liberian people.

These freed slaves also opened up liberia for exploitation to american rubber company firestone who were granted a 100 year lease to extract rubber from liberia for next to nothing.

when the indigenous liberians rose up in anger against these americo liberians - the US govt refused to send troops to diffuse the situation and merely evacuated their own nationals.  liberians trying to escape the mayhem tried running into the american embassy and were shot at by US troops who were guarding the US embassy !!! these are the people who you think have come to assist you- keep dreaming.

To date they treat african americans like second class citizens despite the fact that the wealth of america was built on the backs of african slaves.  In addition african americans have fought on the side of white america from the war of independence to the war in Iraq and are still not afforded the same opportunities as other ethnic groups in america.
african americans even had to go all the way to the supreme court just so that they could have access to the same standard of education and social amenities as whites.

even descendants of japanese immigrants (whose country waged war on america) have access to better jobs, quality of education, housing etc than african americans - it is obvious white americans do not respect anyone of african descent - they even invented the one drop rule ie one drop of black blood no matter how far back in your genealogy equates to black - in their minds black = contamination and inferiority.

ak47mann:
Boys are warming up

yeah, warming up to gang rap.e us and make off with all of our natural resources.

former US presidential candidate warned us - but many chose to remain deaf to her cries:

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would it also be a pleasure if they landed on you and your family - wiping all of you out in one fell swoop?

They are coming anyway - so prepare to attend many funerals.

cdoffx:
i do not get what you mean in that enbolded part, the west demonised Gadhaffi,but do you mean the west will demonise Bokoharam when an average sensible Nigerian knows the group is a demon itself

what i meant was that the west will paint nigeria as an unstable, terrorist enclave which is fast spiralling into anarchy. They will depict nigeria and boko haram as one and the same. they will carry stories in their media about how things are now beyond breaking point and how nigeria and nigerians must be saved from this scourge. they will then volunteer themselves as the knights in shining armour who out of sheer human kindness have decided to intervene on HUMANITARIAN GROUNDS to save nigerians from themselves.

I am in no way defending the heinous activities of boko haram - just trying to get you to see that there is more to boko haram than you currently understand - ask yourself who is funding them, and why their methods of attack are well planned and very sophisticated. Where are they getting all these guns and bombs from?

remember europe and america needed an excuse to overthrow Qadaffi - now they are also looking for a similar excuse to use to gain full control over nigeria's oil wells.

keep watching - just as the truth was eventually revealed about the invasion and occupation of Libya the same will apply with regard to nigeria.

Sam Ikenna - you sound very naive - nigeria is a creation of western colonialists who are still pulling the strings to date. If the northerners see themselves as born to rule its because they were elevated to that position by britain who falsified the census figures in 1959 in order to ensure that they would always have a majority in the house of representatives and remain at the helm of affairs indefinitely. As you can see that has been very successful as they have been in power for approximately 41 years out of 51 years of our independence. The so called southerners who have been allowed to lead nigeria have never served the interests of their fellow southerners but have instead served the interests of the tiny elite group who have destroyed nigeria.

The question you need to ask yourself is why did britain arm the north against the eastern secession of biafra? if you can answer that question then you will know who really owns and controls nigeria.

when you people talk about splitting the country i just laugh - you cant split the country without the consent of the people who created you in the first place - this is why biafra failed because Ojukwu sought to break out of the neo colonial cage built for nigerians by britain - the only time you can break free is when you become MILITARILY POWERFUL ENOUGH TO DICTATE THE TUNE TO THE PEOPLE WHO STILL HAVE THEIR FEET ON YOUR NECK.

As it stands now the nigerian elite (both northern and southern elitists) are running nigeria on behalf of the same people who created the contraption in the first place.
Therefore you can not expect that you can break out of this bondage without coming into direct confrontation with these people.

If nigeria is to split - it will be at the behest of these same people NOT at the behest of the nigerian people. As you can see the US is agitating for nigeria to split - why do you think that is? is it because they give a damn about the welfare of nigerians within this contraption? if you beleive that then you deserve what they are about to bring to nigeria.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=855268.msg10064867#msg10064867 date=1327715478]I maintain that you suffer from a disconnect from the realities on ground and are delusional in your pronouncements. Your idealism is only good for college term papers, sadly. It suffices for now, to point out that the "core North" who you claim is the nucleus of poverty, misery, and carnage in our land could not have carried out the acts of becoming this nucleus successfully, without their co-conspirators in the South. You have dishonestly refused to acknowledge the active participation of these southerners. My question to you is why?

The issue at hand is completely related to power and control. The Nigerian elite, who hail from North, South, East, and West currently have the power and rule you people. In order to achieve your stated goal, power must first be wrestled out of the hands of these people. You had a chance to make some progress with recent protests but the powerful elite castrated you before you could gain any ground. It is essentially impossible to tear this country apart peacefully without first wrestling power away from the government.

Your next option is the intervention of the military. Here again, you will fail woefully. A coup is not possible in Nigeria at the moment because all the officers around the country who can carry it out have been bought and paid for, the rest of them have been retired by OBJ.

The future is looking more and more like a Nigeria controlled by 3 competing interests (1) USA (2) Saudi Arabia (3) China. We are basically fcked for now. Sam Ikenna, you are delusional, don't take my observation as an insult, biko nu.[/quote]at last the voice of wisdom

The nigerians on this forum have failed to understand that what we are dealing with is a class war and not an inter ethnic one. What do Goodluck Jonathan, Okonjo Iweala and Allison Madueke have in common with Sanusi Lamido, and other northern elitists?

answer: despite beign from different parts of nigeria they all have one common interest to preserve the status quo and to carry on exploiting and abusing the nigerian people.

ndu chucks you got it right - the ruling classes though made up predominantly of northerners also comprise a large number of southerners who do not give a rats arse about their fellow southerners.

The southerners who are members of this ruling elite are just as greedy, callous and evil as their northern counterparts.

The reality is that the working class northerners have more in common with working class southerners than many nigerians realise, but tribalism and ignorance clouds the minds of many in nigeria.

the only way out is for a grass roots revolution which will completely uproot the rotten foundation that nigeria is built upon. this grass roots movement must cut across ethnicity and religion or it will play into the hands of the nigerian elite who will use ethnicity and religion as they usually do to divide and frustrate anything aimed at removing them from power.

i endorse this

Gerrard59:
You again!! Dis ur western,west,western hate won't carry you anywher as long as u stay in da UK. Leave d west and precipitate home and don't be there complaining. Do you think Nigeria was created by God or meant to be one? It's not by 4ce to remain one. You accuse the USA of dividing Sudan,but 4got how China was sending weapons to khartoum to kill innocent South Sudanese. 4 u info,d same SS gave oil contracts to malaysian,Indians and CHINESE FIRMS. No Western firm got a any block,field to drill oil. The USA has been in Kuwait,but have never stolen a single barrel of crude nd u precipitate here bashing them frm d UK. HYPOCRTIES!!!!

yes me again, who do you think is supplying arms to both sides in the ongoing war in DRC?

who financed and armed the mass murderer Charles Taylor?  If my memory serves me well, wasnt it recently revealed that he was a CIA agent?

[quote author=pretty_boi link=topic=852086.msg10055615#msg10055615 date=1327608664]BRILLIANT WRITE UP BRO. GOD BLESS YOU.[/quote]thanks bro

like the insanity that afflicts him along with the sheep in his congregation?

Olodostein:
As far as the United States putting their interest first; if a customer approaches you as a businessman, what comes to your mind first? This is human nature, we are all guilty of it, we put our interest first and then try to curb the menace that could eventually affect us in our home turf. In this case, 'No permanent friends, No permanent enemies; but permanent Interest. What makes you think that these Radical Islamists are not getting help from their Arab masters? This goes beyond national politics and Nigerianism. This is 21st century cold war. Everyone is vying for interest and influence. By extension, I rather dine with the Devil I know than with the Devil I don't know.

Olodostein -have you heard of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) - here is a brief summary of what it is:

Project for the New American Century is a neo-conservative think-tank that promotes an ideology of total U.S. world domination through the use of force. The group embraces and disseminates an ideology of faith in force, U.S. supremacy, and rejection of the rule of law in international affairs.

The group's core ideas are expressed in a September 2000 report produced for Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush, and Lewis Libby entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century. The Sunday Herald referred to the report as a "blueprint for U.S. world domination."

PNAC's membership includes people such as Richard Perle, Elliot Abrams, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and William Kristol.

The Sunday Herald article highlighted the following goals from the 2000 report, which it termed an "American grand strategy" and "blueprint of world domination":

[b]The U.S. must take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein is in power: "While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein."
The U.S. must "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars" as a "core mission"
The U.S. forces are "the cavalry on the new American frontier"
The report builds upon the 1992 draft document "Defense Planning Guidance," which claimed that the U.S. must "discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global role"
Permanent U.S. bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, whether or not Saddam Hussein is in power
Increasing military pressure on China: "it is time to increase the presence of American forces in southeast Asia" which will lead to "American and allied power providing the spur to the process of democratisation in China"
"the creation of 'US Space Forces', to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to prevent 'enemies' using the internet against the US"
The report contains ambivalent language toward bioterrorism and genetic warfare: "New methods of attack -- electronic, 'non-lethal', biological -- will be more widely available ,  combat likely will take place in new dimensions, in space, cyberspace, and perhaps the world of microbes ,  advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"
Development of "world-wide command-and-control system" to contain dangerous regimes of North Korea, Libya, Syria, and Iran. [/b]

http://home.earthlink.net/~platter/neo-conservatism/pnac.html

with regard to america putting their interests first - in principle there is nothing wrong with it, but what if to do so means you have to kill 1 miilion people (iraq) or trigger a war which causes 1 million people to be brutally hacked to death in a space of just 2 months (Rwanda).  How about arming a rebel group to overthrow and murder a leader who refuses to allow you to destroy the economy of his country (libya) or giving the order for the brutal assassination of a head of state who didn t want you appropriating his natural resources (Lumumba) - are these acts all excusable because they serve to protect the national interests of a nation?

the truth of the matter is that america perpetrates heinous crimes around the world all in the name of protecting their national interests.  Yesterday it was Libya today it is Nigeria - they are already on the continent - they have troops stationed in djibouti, uganda, libya and kenya - they are almost achieving their goal which is the total control of all of africa's natural wealth.  When will we wake up and realise that we are sleepwalking into a very deadly and tragic situation. 

Another name i would like you to research is Zbigniew Brzeinski -he is an adviser to Obama.

efisher:
I am sure that US has enough intel to bury Boko rams in a few days if they want to. They have the entire sect in their cross hairs. After 9/11, any remote threat to US is not treated with kid gloves. The threat emanating from 9ja is even more serious with the experience of the slowpokish Nigerian underpant bomber - Abdulmutallab. USA is usually not the defensive type. They prefer to be on the offensive ie attack. They take the war to you so you don't get the chance to bring it near them or spring up any surprises. The successes of ST6 in their high profile ops speaks volumes. It is obvious US has several undercover Nigerian agents on ground already (same in other countries). Any attack that may have an impact on a US citizen is known b4 hand. No be today!

when are you people going to wake up and realise that this war on terror nonsense is just a giant hoax being used by america as an excuse to invade, occupy and make off with the natural resources of resource rich nations?

Having read that post i can see that the western nations are all now beating the drum very loudly for the partition of nigeria.

But the question is why?

The answer is that a partitioned nigeria serves the interests of britain and america much better than a united one.

The writer of that article is practically calling upon america to deploy troops to nigeria and occupy the country and yet many posters on here think that is a good thing !!!! You all are going to find out the hard way that these western countriees dont give a damn about the welfare of nigerians but are simply interested in how best to have total control over the oil wells in the south.

I can t beleive some posters on here think that that the writer of that article was being honest and sincere.

First of all nigeria was created by the british not out of a desire to build a nation but out of the need to gain control over a large landmass that they could milk for their own selfish economic interests. They amalgamated south and north not giving a damn about the cultural differences and aspirations of the people within this contraption but merely for the sole aim of ammassing even more stolen land to their portfolio of colonised and enslaved countries.

Now that the contraption is no longer serving the purpose it was meant for they have decided to split it up - not for the benefit of the people within that contraption - but for the benefit of european and american oil companies who would prefer a smaller entity which they can control much more easily by deploying troops to the niger delta region.

This has been done before - sudan was recently split into two - not because of the 20 year war that had raged between north and south previously, but in order to deprive chinese oil and gas investors who had been granted oil concessions by the govt in Khartoum which is located in the north. about 75% of sudanese oil and gas reserves are located in the south and america's aim was to gain full control over them and shut the chinese out completely.

they succeeded in doing just that and now they have turned to another oil rich nation where the chinese have been granted huge oil and gas concessions.

This is all about "strategic national interests" not the welfare of the nigerian people - just wait and see what will unfold in the coming days ahead.

Gerrard59:
So mr.pan 93(nt 2 sure) lockerbie bomber frnd,nd mr.berlin embassy bomb attack. Tell me y did gadafish killd hs pple if he really lovd them? Y didnt yu say anything when he calld blacks animals? He used libyan money well,but hv u seen the type of luxury goods hs sons bought? Esp,saif? The money wasnt hs,it is libyan pple money. So he should hv stayd there 4 50 yrs nd hand ova to hs saif? Is libya hs property?
Wat did u say when he embracd d west? I assume he wasnt great then. Face yur boko haram wic its backers are muslims nd leave d libyans. Face ur own wahala.

you like talking trash.

where is your evidence that he was responsible for lockerbie and the berlin discotheque bombing - let me guess - cnn, al jazeera and the bbc? - i laugh.

are you aware that the father of one of the passengers on the lockerbie plane categorically stated that libya had nothing to do with that bombing? why would he say something like that?

also why was al megrahi the accused released by a scottish court the minute was testify at the hague?

the way the west demonised Qadaffi is the same way they are going to demonise nigeria over boko haram (actually the western media have already started doing this) - you will be suprised when you start reading the western media's account of what is going on in nigeria, as you will find out that 99.9% will be exaggerated distortions of the true picture.

So what if Qadaffi's son's lived in luxury - at least the people of libya were not living on $1 a day or experiencing an unemployment rate of almost 50% like in nigeria.

Look at your leader Goodluck Jonathan spening N1billion on food when majority of nigerians can't even afford one decent meal a day.

Long Live Muammar Qadaffi's legacy  and may the green resistance continue to grow stronger with each day.

A true hero who preferred to die as a martyr rather than hand his country over to the IMF like the disgraceful Nigerian govt.


A man who provided his people with a comfortable lifestyle and a standard of living higher than some western nations.

May his soul continue to rest in peace.

Gerrard59:
And @ cap28,you seem to really hate the west. Then what on earth are you still doing in the UK?  Why not come back since you love africa. Or you want deportation ? You can help start a revolution that you want to happen . Don't be hypocritcal,come back home and chatise the west and not be in the UK and curse them,just pray they don't catch you.

i can tell you know nothing about your own history, hence your suprise at the way i feel about western govts and their foreign policies towards africa.

i bet you had no idea that they have master minded every single coup detat on the african continent since 1956, i bet its also news to you that they are responsible for foisting corrupt and greedy dictators on every african country and overthrowing well intentioned and patriotic ones.

I am also sure that you are completely unaware of the fact that this increase in petrol price was ordered by one of their banking institutions.

Now tell me which self respecting african would love western govts after knowing all of the above? a fool perphaps?

I have every right to voice my discontent - and the fact that i am here in the UK does not make me a hypocrite, after all the reason i am here is because the UK along with america and the IMF have made living conditions in nigeria virtually unbearable for the average nigerian.  Shell BP along with the american multinationals continue to reap billions in oil profits courtesy of the cheap oil that they import from nigeria, they loot and rap.e us and yet you run to their defence - you people  make me  sick

dasparrow:
Precisely! well said.

Thank you for your post.

Do you know what annoys me so much Cap28? The sickening ignorance of a lot of Nigerians. It makes me regret ever coming into this world through Nigerians. I just don't understand how in this day and age with all the information to our disposal thanks to the internet, the average Nigerian still thinks that the united states will have their best interest at hand. Now I know that most Nigerians and indeed Africans are daft/not so bright/not street smart and will never learn from our past mistakes. Our forefathers made the same darn mistake back then trusting europeans and before we could blink our eyes, our people were being taken to the new world in chains. After that came years of colonialism.

@Post

What will it take for the average African to realize and understand that europeans and their descendants have never, do not, and can never give a toss about the genuine welfare/well being of the African? They care more about their cats and dogs than they will ever care about us! The so-called United States that foolish Nigerians think will save them enslaved her own citizens (of African descent) for decades on end and then practiced racial segregation and marginalization upto the 1960s and even beyond. Why oh why foolish Nigerians think that when they (USA) come with their drones, they will focus only on the north is beyond me. Nigerians, has there ever been a time in history where the black man gave the white man permission to take a mile and the white man complied and took just a mile? Historically speaking, each time you give the white man a step, he will take a mile. Like play, like play, oyibos went to south africa when they realized the country had gold and before one could blink, they enslaved the African people on their own land, brought in their own fellow white people and till date have refused to leave. Is that what we want for ourselves, our children and generations yet unborn?

If we really can't solve our domestic problems ourselves, let's enlist the help of our fellow African brothers and sisters in other African countries. Why the need to run to oyibo all the time in 2012? As Nigerians, we are known to run around baging Masters and Ph.D degrees from universities all over the world yet we cannot even solve our own domestic problems and go as far as wishing that leeches such as the USA (who has systematically succeeded in causing problems/confusion in each oil producing country and then abandoning it once they have ruined it) will now be the messiah to Nigeria's problems.

Do Nigerians trully think that if we had no oil, the USA will care if we bomb and slaughter ourselves? Why can't we Nigerians reason outside the box for once in our life and see that no country especially one like USA that is hated by many nations due to her selfish, self-centered, leeching foreign policies give a toss about your well being and is only offering to "help" so that they can take over our resources and enrich their own citizens like they have done several times before with other oil producing countries.

I worry for Nigeria mainly because we have so many ignorant, educated-illiterate and semi-illiterate, shallow minded Nigerians who just worship foreign powers like there're a god and going as far as calling USA their friend but I laugh. The burning question is, does the USA see you a Negroe from Africa as their friend? They are not done befriending black americans who have been sharing a country with them for decades. Na you a Nigerian they will now want to befriend? Think!!!! By the time you realize their true intentions, it will be too late and I will pull up this post and say "I told you so."

I totally agree with all the points you made.

I've given up on the majority of nigerians - many of us are a lost cause. If you dont even know who your enemy is how can you get rid of your problems? Most nigerians think europe and america are their friends despite slavery, colonialism and now the coming recolonisation of the entire continent. I wish all pro american and europeans followers luck cos they're going to need it. those of you who remain unclear as to america's foreign policy in oil rich nations should check the state of Iraq also try reading about how they dehumanised and destroyed all people of african descent in america in order to ensure that they would remain servants to all the other races in america.

looks liike a  $10 hooker to me

and those scruffy looking dogs whats that all about?

THIS IS THE US govt's PLAN FOR NIGERIA:


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Day by day the pieces of the jigsaw keep falling into place.

Only last week there was an article on the internet written by an american freelance journalist quoting a dept of homeland security document which was proposing military intervention in nigeria, a week before that the same journalist wrote another article entitled : IMF pushes nigeria to civil war.

You can see that all is not well, the americans are getting ready for something in nigeria.

they have already got troops stationed on the continent so it wont be too difficult for them to deploy to nigeria.

US presidential candidate - cynthia mckinney warned about this 4 years ago:


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The idea that the US intends to intervene in order to "help combat terrorism " is quite frankly laughable.

Why would they want to "help" you? what for? Do you think the US just goes around the world "helping" countries wracked by wars and terrorism?

YOu are all being set up for yet another "humanitarian intervention" just like the one that happened not too long ago in libya.

Listen to an african american brother explain why the US govt is suddenly so interested in Africa, hopefully it will help you understand what is currently going on in nigeria:

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charlatan !!!!!

why doesnt he lead a revolution against Goodluck Jonathan and his cronies?

or is he afraid that a real revolution will open the eyes of the sheep who follow him around?

Poverty and suffering has caused many nigerians to take leave of their senses, otherwise why would any person have anything to do with this satanic demon masquerading as a man of God?

They are coming to secure their interests - they've been planning this for years, but they've accelerated their plans in the last couple of months:  

[b]If Nigeria continues to face severe instability, the actions foreign powers will take to preserve their economic and geopolitical interests is quite clear. At this stage, it remains uncertain whether Boko Haram is a legitimate indigenous extremist movement or a nurtured product of Intelligence communities working to benefit from destabilizing Africa’s most populous nation. The tired theatrics and recycled rhetoric of Boko Haram’s leadership certainly lends credence to the latter. As The United States African Command (AFRICOM) continues to expand its influence throughout the continent, the entity has long anticipated Nigerian instability; its 2008 war-game scenario envisioned 20,000 U.S. troops maintaining security of the Niger Delta oil fields within a dissolved anarchic Nigeria.

According to a Washington, D.C. based journalist, Scott Morgan, Nigerian military sources have confirmed that U.S. troops are scheduled to be deployed within Nigeria to help local forces do battle with Boko Haram. U.S. officials have not confirmed the deployment, however the increased presence in the region would be consistent with the cumulative expansion of an aggressive Pan-African foreign policy, spearheaded by America’s first President of African descent.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28751

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I just came across this terrible video of this satanic charlatan pastor SLAPPING A teenage girl in his own church.

this is one of the reasons that you will never catch me  attending any of these satanic nigerian churches.



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An IMF BI.TCH is asked to "sanitise his govt" - does that make sense to anyone with an iota of intelligence?  how  can a servant of neo colonialism "sanitise " his govt?

this bi.tch has been bought and paid for by the west - if he diverts from the pre agreed agenda he is toast - WHY CANT NIGERIANS GET IT THAT THIS MAN HAS NOTHING POSITIVE TO OFFER THEM?

WHEN PATRIOTIC NIGERIANS PROTESTED AGAINST THIS B.ITCH'S ACCEPTANCE OF IMF ECONOMIC REFORMS  WHAT HAPPENED?

DIDNT HE SEND THE ARMY TO OCCUPY THEIR STATE?

what does this tell you about this bi.tch?

HE IS BOUGHT AND OWNED BY HIS MASTERS - HOW CAN A SLAVE DIVERT FROM HIS MASTER'S INSTRUCTIONS?

GOODLUCK JONATHAN WILL ONLY CHANGE HIS POSITION IF HE IS BROUGHT DOWN

REVOLUTION IS THE ONLY WAY OUT.

I love this guy Sowore - we need more like him.

These black colonialists need to be treated like this wherever they go in the western world.

We are no longer docile fools - we know their game.

debosky:
@ Cap28

You talk of pre-agreed conditions - pre-agreed for what purpose? Is Nigeria seeking loans or aid from the IMF that it required pre-agreed conditions?

Nigeria negotiated a debt relief package in 2006 - okonjo iweala was in charge of the negotiations, nigeria was permitted to pay $12 billion in full and final settlement of our supposed debts on the condition that we would agree to a number of other economic reforms - this petrol hike is one of many reforms that Okonjo iweala agreed to along with as well as the devaluation of the naira, privatisation of all govt owned assets and cuts in education and health care.

Tam David West is simply playing to the gallery for the most part. When he says there is no subsidy, it is based on the premise that you sell oil based only on production costs alone, which may have been the case when he was in the petroleum ministry but is certainly not the case now. We can keep reverting to that argument but it is largely redundant.

the question you shoudl be asking is - how come during buhari's tenure all four refineries were working?  and how come the price of petrol was never hiked during that period?

why did the refineries suddenly stop working once babangida took over?  as you can hear from Tam David West, IBB and his cronies sabotaged all four of the refineries because they stood to make more money by importing petrol and selling them at market prices to the nigerian populace.

The fact is, if you don't pay 'going price' for a particular product, you're inevitably sacrificing something - how much that figure is can be the subject of debate but the figure clearly exists else everyone else would be selling at 65 naira.

Apart from hollow statements that IMF ‘now dictates’ Nigerian economic policy, where is the evidence that it actually does?

Havent you heard of Structural Adjustment Programmes ?  why did IBB implement austerity measures in the 1980s?  why did the cost of living sky rocket from the 1980s upwards?
Why did nigeria renegotiate its debt releif package in accordance with IMF approved economic reforms in 2006?

Even when it comes to the so called SWF - the plan is to start off with $1bn - that is not even a drop in the ocean compared to the likes of the SWFs run by Singapore, Qatar and the like. Nigeria is extremely small fry in that respect, despite the grandiose over bloated sense of self importance we exhibit.

In those countries that you mentioned do they have non existent power supply, death trap roads, substandard education and health care facilities, do 80% of their populace live on $1 a day?

So you expect a country like nigeria that hasnt provided the basics of life to its citizenry to go investing $1billion dollars or more in extremely risky western run investment funds when its people are starving?

The worst part of it is that many of these investment funds have had a history of losing billions of dollars of other peoples money.  Only last year Goldman Sachs lost/stole $1.3billion of Libya's sovereign wealth fund - does this sound like a safe way to invest the wealth of a nation - especially a nation like nigeria with much more immediate and pressing problems?

This is sheer escapism and nothing else - the IMF did not tell GEJ and co to spend $17bn of the excess crude funds in 2010, money we cannot identify a SINGLE project it has been spent on.

Instead of addressing the rampant corruption that is ultimately behind this subsidy removal, it becomes convenient to blame someone else yet again.

but they (the US govt ) helped him into office knowign just how useless and corrupt he was and they are selling him the weapons that are now being used by nigerian soldiers to intimidate peaceful protesters on the streets of lagos.  These same weapons will be used to repress and kill anyone who tries to oppose him.

Didnt the US ambassador to nigeria - john Campbell in a wikileaks cable expose the fact that okonjo iweala had fraudulently divereted govt contracts worth $50 million to her brother? did that stop the americans from appointing her to oversee these current reforms that are being implemented?  do you think that if okonjo iweala committed that kind of crime in the US she would still be working for the world bank?

you need to wake up my friend.

the americans armed, funded and trained him.

they also helped him escape from a maximum security prison in the US.

They used and dumped this scum bag.

noblezone:
Bros, don't be decieved. PENGASSAN chickened out when the owners of the oil announced that they were ready to take over the oil platforms if the oil workers vacate. Oil is the only thing keeping nigeria one. If the Ijaws secure their oil, subsidy protests would have turned a silly thing to do. And there will be no more free oil.

Nigeria is much more complex than you guys are thinking.

my understanding is that the NLC/TUC caved in under duress(bribes/threats) from the govt and as a result REFUSED to allow PENGASSAN to shut down oil production.

Those ijaw people who claim they were securing "their oil" would they also have restarted oil production as well?

would they have been capable of producing 2.4 million barrels of crude a day ?

the truth is that the NLC/TUC are paid govt agents who betrayed the nigerian people - they knew very well that the only way to paralyse this govt was to cease all oil production but they refused to go down that that route, had they done that -by now the govt would have been forced to give in to the people's demands.

Beaf:
The concentration on Abuja is quite daft, except it is about forcing state gorvernors and LG chairmen to deliver development with their awuf money, then any reasons for a so-called match are contrived and driven by some darker ulterior motive.

Aside the above, I will not join a match that is aimed at curing symptoms instead of the root of the disease. Corruption and wastage are not our problem; the real problem is chaos. And to fix chaos, you've got to totally uproot and rejig the system.

The only reasons I will match are:

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[li]To restructure the country along the lines of true federalism.[/li]
[li]The creation of a new citizen-state contract that guarantees a sense of belonging to all Nigerians.[/li]
[li]A charter of rights for all Nigerians.[/li]
[li]To force LG chairmen and governors to deliver to the people.[/li]
[li]For the immediate passing of an undoctored PIB by the NASS.[/li]
[li]The abrogation of the land use decree.[/li]
[li]The abrogattion of the petroleum act.[/li]
[li]The streamlining of child welfare laws to totally eliminate underaged marriages and Core mutilation.[/li]
[li]Firm laws that criminalise the almajiri institutution.[/li]
[li]Laws that criminalise anyone abusing religion to steal from the poor or traumatise the weak.[/li]
[/list]

Why is the concentration on Abuja daft - isnt it the seat of the govt anymore?

i find it interesting that you completely remain silent on the atrocious govt at the federal level but divert your focus to state govts - corruption is entrenched in the system - in order to root it out you must start from its very roots not its branches - does it make sense to you to target local govt chairmen and state govt but turn a blind eye to the malignant forces that are stealing mind boggling amounts of money from the national treasury as we speak?

rooting out corruption under the present regime is nothing but a dog and pony show unworthy of even the most derisory attention because it is designed to lull nigerians into a false sense of security. what we need is a complete upheaval of the entire system. 

to say that you are one of the most disingenous individuals  i have ever come across woudl be understating my position - "corruption is not a problem in nigeria just chaos"   you need help my friend.

You can not effect change unde rthe existing rotten system - you are merely suggesting that we build castles on a foundation made out of sand - what we need is a revolution, this current system is rotten to its very foundations