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afrodoc2:
Sancho had better stats than Dele Alli's best season AND he was younger. Dele had 25 goal contributions in the season he turned 21 and Sancho had 33 goal contributions in the season he turned.

In addition Dele Alli was never a real youth prodigy unlike Sancho that was always the best out of his age mates from around the age of 15....and this is a out of a really talented group of youngsters that won the under 17 world cup for England.

Also it is a bit unfair to compare him to Rashford and Sterling who are much older. Sterling in particular is over 5 yrs older. Sancho is a talented player but he is not Messi or Neymar.

Finally, apart from Messi and Ronaldo scoring goals nothing is certain in football. However you can't fail to act just because you are afraid you won't succeed.

I am not saying we shouldn't sign him, infact he should be a priority. I dont just want to overate him, and I was also pointing out that teams will think twice to fu..ck out 150m for him next season as the original poster stated, he might go on to become a £250m player, but it's not certain.

Apart from standing out among his peers throughout his development, which is true. I dont think Sancho performance in his first 2 full seasons were better than that of Alli's first 2. I remember very vividly how Alli keep bossing matches at the greatest stage against the very "topest"of teams in pressure cooker tight matches. I haven't really seen Sancho do that. And he was 19 when he joined Spurs so was the same age as Sancho is now. Again Yes Rashford and Sterling are more experienced, but for the way he is being talk about, while he was exceptional in those England matches, he did not show CLEARLY that he is better than them. I expect him to be a class above them. Mbappe for example didn't need experience to dominate the WC, neither do Rooney in Euros, these are players that when you sign, you are Certain will be world class. Sancho same as Havertz are exceptional talents but still have a long way to go

GloryIsaac:
Well, it all lies on probability at this point. Let's see what the future holds.

Ofcourse. My point exactly. Nothing is certain

elampiro:
But we had Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand, Nevilles, Brown, Smith, Rooney, Fletcher, Kean, Oshea at same time. We might want add Carrick

Add Beckham too but from your list only Rooney, Smith, Keane and Ferdinand were signed apart from smith those are all generational talents. Rooney for example already beasted Euros before we signed him. The rest were academy graduates, I am not against academy graduate, neither am I against signing English players, but making it a priority is wrong

GloryIsaac:
With the level of talent Sancho has, for a 20yr old, I find it hard seeing a possibility of him tailing off. At this point, only a poor lifestyle can hinder him, and judging from his interviews so far, I highly doubt if he lives such lifestyle. Also, he hasn’t shown any signs of being injury-prone.

Dembele nko, Joao Felix nko? I know you will wave it away, but bring Dele stats from his first seasons at spurs, that of Sancho is not better and that was in the EPL oo. And Dele scores important goals against the biggest teams. Chelsea, United, City, Juventus, Madrid, Arsenal etc. Sancho doesn't.

I am not saying Sancho will not reach the highest level, but there is absolutely nothing to suggest that he will be a CERTAIN superstar. So far I haven't seen him take a really big game by the scruff of the neck. I have watched him in England national team, he did not clearly stand out from Rashford and Sterling. Mind you, I am not knocking him, but let's not get too much ahead of ourselves

GloryIsaac:
Sancho actually wants to join United [Romano], but BVB played their game well on him, to ensure they get good money off him. They offered a new contract with good wages, just enough to persuade him not to mind staying one more season.

If United don’t get Sancho this summer, I highly doubt that they’ll ever get him, because if he keeps performing well, it’ll be an auction ground next summer, definitely hitting €150m.

What if he tails off starting from this season. Dele Alli was unplayable few seasons ago, beasting Juventus, Madrid and co. He even did his own in the EPL. Sancho was good in the Bundesliga yes, but the 2 full seasons he was in the UCL, he did not particularly set the world alight. Mbappe and Haaland who are rated as his level hit the ground running at the get go in the UCL. TAA, Upamecano, De ligt and Alphonso if you are talking of defender. You can make a case for his age though.
Except he reaches Absolute Mbappe level, I dont see any club paying Dortmund €150m for Sancho. Clubs are now very careful to pay that huge money for youngsters who are not confirmed superstars. Especially with what happened to Dembele and Joao Felix. Especially when this 100m Euros guy Chelsea is bringing flops.

EarlRagnar2:
I think Buendia is from Argentina

Ok my bad. But I dont need any overrated English/ British player. Especially those limited average Joes Giggs is throwing at us, so we can develop his national team for him.
The difference makers that Klopp signed were Salah, Mane, Allison, Fabinho, Robertson and VVD. Plus the emergence of TAA. Only Robbo and TAA are British, and there are unexpected success. That English project that Ole was pursuing is certainly bound to fail

elampiro:
I have not paid attention to that. We will talk about this later.

What do you guys think about Messi coming to EPL? If he joins Man City, the league automatically becomes theirs. Don't you think so?

I have been praying silently for Messi to remain in Barca or go to PSG or somewhere else. If that guy enter EPL. The league is as good as done and dusted. Messi can comfortably give you extra 25-30 points on his own. Make opponents to resign to defeat even before the game kickoff and create an absolute fear factor on any team he joins. If Messi joins City. That's it.

It's funny how we bought both Bruno and VDB for a combined £72m + Bruno's Balloon dor add on. But would have gotten maddison and Grealish for a combined £160m. That's madness, the gulf in class is very huge for half the price.

We have Maguire, Shaw, Henderson, Rashford, Greenwood, AwB that's half the team as potential confirmed starters who are English already. Mctomminay, James and Williams is British, Pogba and TFM are home grown. Not to talk of Perriera, Lingard, Smalling, Jones who btw are still our player. We have academy players coming up too. So we are Overflowing with English/British/Home grown players already.

Please I think we should suspend signing any English player till further notice. I dont want to hear Longstaff, Buendia, Rice, Cantwell, Mings, etc from Ole's mouth again, except if he wants thunder to fire him. Imagine if we had sign Dele Alli and Eric Dier, when the English media were pushing us, we would have been looking at how to offload more big wage deadwoods

Except for exceptional talented like Sancho.

BlueAngel444:
Was this not you

And is this you


First sync your senses together so you can understand simple statements others make

only if you were not so confused. U be yarning Cap

That season we won the europa league and qualified for UCL. Try to comprehend simple things first before judging syncing.

Did Chelsit win anything last season

patrickmuf:
Reguillon, right?

A very good young player...

Yeah regullon. If we want to reach the next level we need capable attacking fullbacks

BlueAngel444:
You sure say u no go follow that trailer go back ibadan


E fit be say that truck driver deceive u say him carry cross boarder o


Your blue cap still dey der o

See the kain sites wey Blue444 de read, apart from complete sports.


Evening standard.
Mirror.
Daily mail.
Goal.com
Givemesports
Daily Express.
Tribal football.
London today.

Lol

[quote author=BlueAngel444 post=93429423][/quote]Lmao, change your football news outlet sites. And thank me later.

No wonder, your football conversation is always out of sync. Lol

Leyqute:
Haba.

Broken watches are right twice a day. And if a drunkard pokes long enough in the dark he’ll get the key hole once or twice.

They’ve got some good deals done but e no mean day most of their deals na rubbish.

Wait until the season resumes; this place will turn into the book of lamentations.

Ofcourse na. I know the ones wey go flop but I no go talk, wait make season start

[quote author=BlueAngel444 post=93428875][/quote]Lol see the kind site you de read. No wonder your football knowledge is like this lol.

Mirror, Simon stone of BBC is a man u hater. He is the only person reporting 40m pounds.

Leyqute:
You are minding these Shekpites.

They love making comparisons and na them Dey lose last last.

It’s a real shame.

No mind them, if you see the way shekpites de praise that woman wey de do transfer for them, you go think say na free them de sign players. Person wey sign Zappercosta, Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Morata, Emerson, Kepa, Batshauyi, Djilobodji, Baba Rahman, Luiz Filipe and Rudiger for a combined fee of 350m plus.

Now na Bend down select Ballack €100 and low budget Roberson for 50m pounds.


To be fair Werner and Ziyech are steals

BlueAngel444:
compared to a club with 50PKs, 66points, 3 semi-finals L and no trophies after £200m

66 points but still above you

BlueAngel444:
lol so VDB na £10m na loan abi na leg una buy

Thank God you are comparing Drinkwater to his mates in manu

See this one how much be Martial how much be VDB?

Martial = 36m pounds , VDB = 35m pounds.


E be like say na 60m pounds you see for complete sports for Martial.

Exonerate1:
Ziyech + Werner + Thiago + Sarr - £70m

A certain Fridge - £80m

VDB + Martial = £70m
Drinkwater + Bakayoko = £75m.

Henderson + Greenwood + Rashford =£0m.
Kepa + Batshauyi + Drinkwater = £150m

BlueAngel444:
lol so there are many sports papers sha but this one you know the kind news way dey am and all name of the papers

Con know where dem dey sell am

Na you be this guy way dey DAT place morning and evening dey shout saliva for people body, OLEOuT

Lol.. I left Naija 3 years ago. So no be me.

Na around 2002/2003 I read those kain papers last... there news na always offpoint

BlueAngel444:
like he walked into Greece prison like a boss after giving his famous no look defense. Not guilty yet...

Lol Chelsea fan mocking another club defender. This life. A club that conceded 80 goals a season

BlueAngel444:
how you take know

From your comments I know na.

Sporting champion.
Complete sports.
Sun sport
Nations sport.
Sports life.

Na those kind newspapers you go see news like.

- Arsenal line up bid for Ronaldo of Juventus.
- Chelsea set to sign Bruno Fernandez from Man united

BlueAngel444:
No oh, no na Bruno is 46m naira

We are talking about Penandez €55m + €25m add on

You read to much of complete sports from Ibadan Expressway news stand.

BlueAngel444:
please when is Maguire breaking out of prison?

This one VDB has been signed to free Pogba season 5

When this one, leave woman nyash and saves a shot on target.

Maguire shits on all your defenders, he will walks confidently into your first eleven like a boss.

BlueAngel444:
Bruno €80m + Van de Beek €45m = €125m what are you counting? Their salary or what?

And we signed Ballack for free? Which you're right was low budget

Bruno 46.7m Euros, Van de Beek 40m Euros. Where are you getting your figures from?

BlueAngel444:
Ibrahimovic was 35 when he played his sole season for manu, 53 games 29goals 10assists. 39g+a. 17goals in EPL

No wahala na here we dey na. When small boys from Brighton and Fulham to run rings round him, una go know

airmark:
Chelsea have now agreed a £72m initial fee with Bayer Leverkusen for Kai Havertz.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/aug/31/chelsea-agree-initial-72m-fee-for-kai-havertz-with-bayer-leverkusen

Bruno + Van de Beek = 87m Euros.

Low budget Ballack = 100m Euros.

BlueAngel444:
Reading this makes Chelsea signing of Thiago Silva a great win.

It has been revealed by Thiago's agent that PSG’s sporting director, Leonardo, made a late plea for him to remain in France. Tonietto also revealed that PSG’s head coach, Thomas Tuchel, was keen to keep Thiago Silva in his squad. ‘He [Thiago Silva] was no longer hoping [for a new contract] because Leonardo told him two months ago that he did not want to extend,’ Tonietto told L’Equipe.


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/31/thiago-silva-rejected-last-ditch-offer-paris-saint-germain-join-chelsea-reveals-agent-13200552/?ito=cbshare

There is nothing great about signing a 36 year old defender.

patrickmuf:
With VDB, the talks of that overrated Grealish should die down...

See Upamecano's release clause compared to Rice at West Ham...I reckon they're left backs we can get for 30m out there who are better than Shaw.

The only English player in the market who looks the part right now is Sancho.

Say no more

patrickmuf:
I don't see VDB sitting on the bench o! He is a very serious midfielder, no time for nonsense, collect the ball, pass and move...Watching him closely, you'd notice he's got some mad touches and skills to go but baba doesn't do jokes...

Nobody wants to say it but Pogba should bring his A game if not...

Pogba is our best player TBH. But like I said before, VDB will shock a lot of people. The guy is really good if Ole use him well.

It will be scenes if we can pull off Sancho. Then get 50+ from sales of Smalling, Rojo, Jones, Lingard and Pereira to get Upamecano.

We still have Tuenzebe, Lindelof and Bailly as back up. and certain Mengi for small cup games.

With Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho, James and Ighalo/ experienced striker when he goes in January. We are good

chidexxy007:
I heard read that after the departure of Frankie, he was tried there but wasn't as spectacular as he is in other midfield positions.

So yeah, Matic still plays DM

Yeah true, Ten Haag have to convert a defender Martinez to player there. Or Blind sometimes. VDB is an AM and CM just like KDB

chrisley024:
Good. The question is, who plays DM? Matic

Yes Matic and then Fred sometimes, Matic is only very good for half a season and when he is on song, he is really world class. Fred can cover for Matic in few games. VDB can comfortably play CM and AM, so can slot in for either Pogba or Bruno. We have fixture congestion and we need to rest players. We need a world class RW. And Martial and Co must be clinical this season, they are off age now, no more excuses.

I think we need LB to challenge/Support Luke Shaw. Another thing, this might not be a popular opinion but I dont like AWB AT ALL. he have to up his attacking game

odizeey:
I think he scouted him before then.

Really that was impressive. TBH not because we signed him. I like VDB, I have watched him closely, him and FDJ midfield combo at Ajax was lite. Believe me VDB is a very very good player, he will be a hit like Bruno. He is a CM with a huge eye for goal, huge mentality, discipline and composed. I am so happy with the signing. Wish him good luck sha.