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Christianity EtcRe: POPULAR JOHN 3:16 Destroys The Unbiblical Tri-ni-ty by CAPTIVATOR(op): 10:41am On Nov 23, 2014
malvisguy212:
when a woman gave birth to a child, what causes it? Is it not the meeting between female and male? Who mate mary? Is it not the power of the Most high God overshadow her? The reason why jesus has to be born of the flash is because God want to reconcile himself to us, man was created in the image of God,but when satan deceive man, man lost the godly nature, so God dwelt in the flash to give man the opportunity to regain the godly nature
why all dis story , one word answer ...... From ur statements, its clear that Mary is the mother of Jesus NOT God ! Trinity hoax

You say satan kill jesus? May God forgive you your sin

john 13:27-28.
27 As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. So Jesus told him, “What you are about to do, do quickly.” 28 But no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him.
if u dont understand ask : John 13 :2 reads " and the DEVIL HAD ALREADY put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon to betray him" !! The whole thing was carried out by Devil , Judas Is Just an agent , thats why Jesus calls that moment the " authority of darkness" Luke 23:53
Christianity EtcRe: POPULAR JOHN 3:16 Destroys The Unbiblical Tri-ni-ty by CAPTIVATOR(op): 9:49am On Nov 23, 2014
malvisguy212:
yes,she gave birth to jesus, there is no other word fit in than this word "birth", a man born of the spirit of God, what do you called that man? What is the difference between you and your spirit? Are they not the same?
no twist and turn ......... TRINITY is an HOAX !!!

Question 1 : Mary Gave Birth To Jesus Or God ?? Its high time u tell me u are part of d Catholic Pope empire

Question 2 : John 13:3, 27 States Clearly That Satan Was D person responsible for Jesus Death, Did Satan Kill Jesus OR God ?? Infact, hold on to ur doctrine and be givin victory to Satan !!
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "I And The Father Are One" In John 10:30? by CAPTIVATOR: 8:10pm On Nov 20, 2014
@ op .......... Pls explain 1cor 15:24-28 for this thread ooooo
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "I And The Father Are One" In John 10:30? by CAPTIVATOR: 4:49pm On Nov 20, 2014
†̥ђe fact that Jesus Ȋ̝̊̅§ called saviour doesn't mean he is d same person as the father..... 1joh 4:14 says " Father sent his son as †he saviour of †̥ђe world" !!!

That's clear , infact God has raise some people as saviour in d past ...... in judges 3:15 God raise Ehud "as a saviour" for isreal! Yet this doesn't mean Ehud is God !

@op .... Pls explain 1cor 15:24-28 for this thread
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "I And The Father Are One" In John 10:30? by CAPTIVATOR: 2:12pm On Nov 20, 2014
CAPTIVATOR:
Jesus Christ is the "Firstborn of God's creation" !! Colosians 1:15, Abraham Is Gods creation too but not the first , Jesus was created First , Christ is the " 1stborn of Creation" !!

Rev 3:14 affirms further that " ( Jesus) is the beginning of creation BY God" !!
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "I And The Father Are One" In John 10:30? by CAPTIVATOR: 2:08pm On Nov 20, 2014
OLAADEGBU:
If your real intention was to glorify the Father then you should know that the Father glorified the Son just as the Son glorified the Father:

"And now, O Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was" -- John 17:5 The Evidence Bible.

Jesus also declared in this verse that He was WITH THE Father before the world came into existence, and that the Father loved Him before the foundation of the world (vs.24).  Hebrews 7:3 tells us that He had no beginning.  He not only existed before Abraham (John 8:58), He existed before the creation of the world (John 1:1-3).
notice the underlined, Thankfully John 17:3, 5 addresses two persons, I (first person) and You ( second person)!! And destroyin Trinitary, Jesus refer to the Father As " THE ONLY TRUE GOD" !!!
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "I And The Father Are One" In John 10:30? by CAPTIVATOR: 1:36pm On Nov 20, 2014
OLAADEGBU:
If it's about age then tell us how Jesus managed to be older than Abraham? undecided
Jesus Christ is the "Firstborn of God's creation" !! Colosians 1:15, Abraham Is Gods creation too but not the first , Jesus was created First , Christ is the " 1stborn of Creation" !!

Rev 3:14 affirms further that " ( Jesus) is the beginning of creation BY God" !!
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "I And The Father Are One" In John 10:30? by CAPTIVATOR: 1:12pm On Nov 20, 2014
OLAADEGBU:
I'll advise you to chuck those versions that cannot even construct proper grammar. What is "Before Abraham Existed, I Have Exist"? undecided

Let me give you a little illustration to put you out of your misery. Supposing I give you a small slice of cheese from a large block, assuming that the taste is constant throughout the whole block of cheese,

If the Jews rejected our Lord Jesus Christ, they rejected the Father also—he who is of God hears and believes God's Words but he who is not of God rejects it. The apostle John later says elsewhere that:

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The fact is clear .... The verse deals with age !!! I didnt denie the son , Am only glorifying the Father as Our lord Jesus Glorified His Father , when Speaking To Him In Prayer, he said: " This means everlasting life, their coming to know you the ONLY TRUE GOD, And the one whom you Sent, Jesus Christ " - John 17:3
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "I And The Father Are One" In John 10:30? by CAPTIVATOR: 12:31pm On Nov 20, 2014
OLAADEGBU:
It also means Jesus is God in human form. He said:

"Verily, verily, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58.)

Our Lord Jesus is here affirming that He was God manifest in human form.
It was you and ur false preachers who reasoned that Jesus is here affirming that he was God manifested in human form !! Bcoz such heresy wasnt in dat john 8:58 ! Lets take a look at the context from verse 57 ........

So the Jews said to him: " You are not yet fifty years old, and you have seen Abraham" .... Dis have to do with AGE OF EXISTENCE ! So Jesus replied : " truly, truly, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am" or I Existed !!!

" Before Abraham Existed, I Have Exist" - The New Testament, From G.R . Noyes.(1869)

" I have existed before Abraham was born" - The Bible - An American Translation, from J.M.P. Smith and E.J. Goodspeed. (1935)

" I was alive before Abraham was born" - the Simple English Bible (1981)
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "I And The Father Are One" In John 10:30? by CAPTIVATOR:
OLAADEGBU:
It means much more than that it is the Evidence that Jesus is God:

"I and the Father are one."  Again the Jews picked up stones to stone Him, but Jesus said to them: "I have shown you many miracles from the Father, for which of these do you stone me?" "We are not stoning you for any of these,' replied the Jews, 'but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." (John 10:30-33).
Did Jesus claim to be God ?? He Neva said such! It was the unbelievin Jews that reason as such bcoz they misunderstand his words, hey man! May i remind u that in John 17:21 Jesus pray dat his followers be "one" same greek word ! So we are all one person ?? Tryin to be sarcastic ! U & I are same person ryt?

Come wit me to 1 cor 3:6,8 "Paul planted, Apollo watered ..Now the one who plants & d one who watered are one" so, Paul is also Apolos??think
FamilyFriend Issue: Is It Advisable To Have A Friend ?? by CAPTIVATOR(op): 11:25am On Nov 20, 2014
MANY People Have Come To The Conclusion Of Neva To Have A Friend .... Bcoz of some previous experience !!! WHY Some people still insist we cant do without friends, so:
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In what way has friends influence you .... Negatively or positively ??

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Can u still advise people to have a friend ?? And in what way has ur experience re-shape ur views about having friends ?? Share ur views ......... Ur comment are highly educational and very useful cause of the way things are going nowadays
Christianity EtcWhere Were You 500 Years Ago ?? by CAPTIVATOR(op): 11:09am On Nov 20, 2014
Consider : What is the condition of human before coming to life ??
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Where were you before the tiny cells from your parent merged to become the living person you are ??
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If humans possess an invisible entity that survives death, where does that entity reside before Conception ??
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This Begs The Question: Where do u think you are some 500 years ago ??
Christianity EtcRe: POPULAR JOHN 3:16 Destroys The Unbiblical Tri-ni-ty by CAPTIVATOR(op): 10:49am On Nov 20, 2014
CHIOMAIGBO:
You are very correct. These unbiblical doctrines are what our priests and pastors teach in churches; yet they claim to be closest to God.

churches nowadays are modernized form of paganism. The ministers of GOD turn the Scripture upsidedown and teach the doctrines of men.

How can a FATHER and SON be equal? Even in a family, a father is never equal to his son. Even the ministers of God do not see any member of their churches as being equal to them. Mr. President has no one who has equal power with him; yet they preach that God the father is equal to HIS SON. This simply means that they are trying to give us the conception of the paganized 'three equal gods' (father, mother and son).

God made it clear in Hosea 13:4, that there is no other beside Him. No wonder Christ said that we worship what we know not.
yes bro, pure paganism ...lols , Infact since dey ar one, I Wonder what happen to d father and holyspirit WHEN the son dies for three days ??
Christianity EtcRe: POPULAR JOHN 3:16 Destroys The Unbiblical Tri-ni-ty by CAPTIVATOR(op): 10:39am On Nov 20, 2014
starwood:
I have searched all popular translation of the bible and all read "the word is God". Of all the Bible translations, you chose to use jehova's witness' bible to prove your point. Nawa o. The word was with God proves there are other persons in one God. (John 1:3-4).
u lied ! U havnt search any popular translation .... Be like d beroans who search to confirm things for themselves !!! D guy showed u the literal translation of d greek text , there is no capital letter in greek, instead of " G" the text reads Was wth " the god" to signify a capital , but the article "the" neva appear in d second statement ! Can someone be God and yet BE WITH d same God ?


"the word was a god" Emphatic Diaglott (1864), "the Word was a divine being"! La bible du centenaire, from Maurice Goguel (1928) !! " The Word was divine" - The Bible - An American Translation from J.M.P Smith and E.J. Goodspeed (1935)! " The Word was a god" the New testament, from James L. Tomanek !!
Christianity EtcRe: POPULAR JOHN 3:16 Destroys The Unbiblical Tri-ni-ty by CAPTIVATOR(op): 8:36am On Nov 20, 2014
morefire:
the concept of trinity can never make sense to common sense...

it is what it is

God the father
God the son and
God the Holy spirit

they exist independently yet they are one...

it is not a subject to be debated rather it is to be respected

have a nice day yall
Blind Faith ! A Dogma ..... Pls show d scripture where d 2 phrase "God the son" and "God the holyspirit" appears ?? No twisting pls!!!! If u cant find such a phrase , uv been hooked to the tradition of men
Christianity EtcRe: POPULAR JOHN 3:16 Destroys The Unbiblical Tri-ni-ty by CAPTIVATOR(op): 8:23am On Nov 20, 2014
@ Malvisguy ..... Our lord Jesus Never said " I am God" !! But uv blasphem by stylishly claimin he is d Almighty , do u notice that the Bible says Jesus NEVA think about equating with God ( Phi 2: 5-7) !!! Pls explain 1 cor 15:24-28 for this thread ??
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Believe In Ghost And Dead Spirit Appearing To People? by CAPTIVATOR: 10:56pm On Nov 19, 2014
oyewolestephen:
Most people haven't seen or experience it but they believe it existed due to Nollywood films they indulge to
film-tricks , and movie effect to spice it up ..... The person dey say died and have a ghost isn't really dead o !! Remember superstory " Nnena" , the girl is alive till today But the whole filmtrick of a thing as make it seems she is a ghost when in REALITY she is not !!! Thats how nollywood and movie industries fool their viewers
Christianity EtcRe: HUMAN Being OR SPIRIT Being ?? by CAPTIVATOR(op): 11:24am On Nov 19, 2014
They are all made up of the frame work of a SKELETON !! But here is something suprising about this earthly beings that crawl out of dust !!!! " Man and beast have d same spirit" ecc 3:19 ! Spirit , what can that be ?? How can animals av spirit ??

All dis questions would be solved once we understand that spirit in this context have another meaning entirely ! What does it mean ?? The latin word /spiritus/ rendered spirit in english means " breath" ! The spirit in man and animals is d 'breath of life in their nostrils wich makes them breath in and out ..... Job 27:3 says " breath is within me , spirit from God is in my NOSTRILS"'

When Jesus was human , he makes it more clearer some minutes before he died in luke 23:46 : we read " Father , into ur hands i commend my spirit (life - force), after saying this he died" when that breath is gone , Jesus Died...Yet Jesus wasnt in heaven dat day !!! Infact as a matter of scripture, Jesus didnt ascend to heaven until 40days afta his Resurection
Christianity EtcHUMAN Being OR SPIRIT Being ?? by CAPTIVATOR(op): 11:11am On Nov 19, 2014
The word " Good" can interchange depending on d context ... E.g a good shoe ! Good in dis sense means 'beautiful shoe, or gine shoe' , but notice that " Good" in d sentence " A Good Boy" is not beautiful boy as d 1st context ! Rather it means " a well behaved boy" .... Dats a truth about english which will help us understand dis taught !!!

The Bible Teach that God is a spirit being , Jesus is a spirit being, the Lijions of Angels are all spirit beings, they all have a " spiritual body" 1cor 15:44 !!! And they all live in heaven's, the abode of Spirit Beings that exist before the first man crawl out of dust!

But here on earth we have a different type of beings , they use blood, they eat , they drink water , they are all made of flesh .... Take a look at monkeys , cow , lizard , snake ! They all take d body of flesh , wich is made from dust !! So also man, he eats but spirit beings dont !! He has blood but spirit beings dont !! He drinks water to quench thirst ! He wore flesh and has kidneys to function
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Believe In Ghost And Dead Spirit Appearing To People? by CAPTIVATOR: 9:46am On Nov 19, 2014
Its High Time We Wake -up From Man Made Lies And Teachings Of Demons ....... The isrealites lived in egypt where magic and speakin with the dead acts are common !! This can be seen in d fact that they change rod to snakes wit their magical arts too in d days of Moses, they strongly bliv that life continues in afterlife thats why they bury some servants with Pharaoh's when dey die !!! .... By the time the isrealites left egypt , some had taken their views of the dead having a living ghost , so they want to practise speakin with this living ghosts !!! But knowing all dis things are false , and the work of demons who establish those magics and afterlife ! GOD BANNED SPEAKIN WITH THE DEAD, any isrealites that did it is havin contact with demons , and must be KILLED ! Its called "spiritism" !!! God hates witches dat practice this too , since its a demonic act , Saul speak with a fake samuel thru a witch doctor, a servant of the devil !!! God knows :" to dust YOU shall Return" GEN 3:19
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Cry So Much When Somebody Dies? by CAPTIVATOR: 9:01am On Nov 19, 2014
honourhim:
Same thing is also applicable to ressurection. People should also be happy when their loved ones die since the dead person will ressurect at the last day. Or are you trying to tell us that ressurection posses a hopless situation that should make people cry very much when they lose their loved ones while the after life doesn't pose a hopeless situation hence people should rejoice?
!!!! So u dont believe in the ressurection ....... Its beta u go and join the pagan greeks and worship their false gods , because u look alike ! " and when they (pagan greeks) heard of the ressurection of the dead, some began to scoff" - Act 7:32 or in other words , 'when they heard of the resurection of the dead at d last day; dey smh" ..... Do u know why ?? Greek philosophers bliv that at death the soul migrates to an afterlife ! Plato (a pagan) argues this all his life'!So d future ressurection of those sleeping in death sounds foolish to them ! Can u see u look alike?
Christianity EtcRe: POPULAR JOHN 3:16 Destroys The Unbiblical Tri-ni-ty by CAPTIVATOR(op): 10:08am On Nov 18, 2014
tonybosses:
D simplest I cn put it is this,

God is an office, nt a prsn or prsonality
In it there is
God d father, which u can called Jehovah
God d son, which is Jesus christ
God d holy spirit

If u understand that u might b closer to Christianity dn religion
to be closer to true christianity, answer this: Whom was Jesus refering to as " the ONLY TRUE God" in John 17:3 ??
Christianity EtcRe: POPULAR JOHN 3:16 Destroys The Unbiblical Tri-ni-ty by CAPTIVATOR(op): 10:00am On Nov 18, 2014
morefire:
the concept of trinity can never make sense to common sense...

it is what it is

God the father
God the son and
God the Holy spirit

they exist independently yet they are one...
u call an absurdity a mystery !!! God is not three entity existing in one, " God is ONLY One" Gal 3:20 , do ur reasearch on d word "ONLY" !!! Such a triune God is not what Jesus teach when he states clearly that: " WE (Including Him) Worship what WE know" john 4:22
Christianity EtcPOPULAR JOHN 3:16 Destroys The Unbiblical Tri-ni-ty by CAPTIVATOR(op): 9:25am On Nov 18, 2014
John 3:16 reads: " God (YHWH;JHVH,JEHOVAH) Sent his only begotten son ( Jesus) .." !! Scripture neva said God sent another part of him But He sent his only begoten son , for more clarification, lets see another scripture where the same greek word for only begotten son is used!! In heb 11:17 we read " Abraham attempted to offer up his only begotten son" ! Is isaac the same person called Abraham ?? ... Is Isaac Equal with Abraham?? The answers are clear and direct ! It simply shows d relationship btw Abraham and his only begotten son, Isaac !!! Christ differentiate himself from the Almighty God saying " exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me" john 14:1 !!! The apostle paul clarifies it again sayin " I Charge u before God and Christ Jesus and the chosen angels" 1tim 5:21 ! That clarifies God the supreme being From Christ Jesus the only begotten son and from the chosen angels !!! " for us there is one God, the Father " 1cor 8:5,6 thats d person Jesus also called "father in heaven"mat6:9
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Cry So Much When Somebody Dies? by CAPTIVATOR: 8:05am On Nov 18, 2014
honourhim:
Paul said for him to die and go and be with Christ is gain. (Yet foolish JW people will come here to tell me that the dead ends in the grave). Misapplying scripture here and there.

Yes it is gain for the person who died in Christ but loss to the people he left on earth. The people he is feeding or helping in one way or the other, the love they share, the role he is playing in the society and other places will be gone. That's a loss bro. Unless the person that died is a mad man who has no positive impact on people around him that's when you will tell me that people will not grieve.
Even the bible did not say that we should not grieve when people die rather it said that we should not grieve like people who have no hope.
which hope ?
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "I And The Father Are One" In John 10:30? by CAPTIVATOR: 7:52am On Nov 18, 2014
PastorAIO:
Since you've broadened the context to included the response of the Jews, why not properly go all the way and consider what Jesus then said in response to that.

34Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? 35If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken— 36do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world,

The sense in which Jesus apparently used God could equally be applicable to the ancient judges of Israel.

It would therefore follow from these verses ...


john 17:21 , "That they may also be in us"

That said divinity can be applied to all of Jesus' followers. He makes no distinction between his being in the father and the father in him, and his followers being in Him and the father together
u are right at bolded , that John 17:21 will flatly cancel pagan tri-ni-ty and make it billionity !! Demonic Doctrine
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Cry So Much When Somebody Dies? by CAPTIVATOR: 7:07am On Nov 18, 2014
honourhim:
If you were reasonable you would ve seen how silly his post is. Reasonable people have seen it so continue in your journey with him.
C'mon is this what i asked you to do, hahaha u couldnt point out anything coz it hurt ur ego .... Uv silently communicated to me the kind of person u are !!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Cry So Much When Somebody Dies? by CAPTIVATOR: 8:29pm On Nov 17, 2014
honourhim:
Silly post.
can u show the silly part in the guy's post ?? Or else u are telling me that u are a "silly" person
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by CAPTIVATOR: 8:02pm On Nov 17, 2014
This guy makes God Justice stupid .......... Adam that sinned is a perferct human , so if Jesus Is A God-man then the ransom has not been paid (inequality), So All humans are still in their sins !!! Is jesus a God -man ?? Here what his apostles have to say " for there is one God, and one mediator between God and man, a man,Christ Jesus" 1tim 2:5 ! A Man , That Scripture Says A Man, infact it calls him an intercessor btw God and man, a man !!! Once again, i have to remind u that we humans are made a little lower than angels as written in psalm 8:5,6 , what about Jesus ?? Here is it Jesus " was made a little lower than the angels" heb 2:9 !! Can u see dat ! How can a God - man be lower than angels ?? Is it not written in psalms 8:4-6 that humans are those lower than angels!! @ op ... U need to sit down and meditate and stop all dis copy and paste of urs
Christianity EtcRe: "What Is Abraham’s Bosom?" by CAPTIVATOR: 7:46pm On Nov 17, 2014
@ Dolphin Heart ...... You Are A Confirm Truth-seeker !!! I Love That
Christianity EtcRe: GENESIS Chapter 3(who Should We Blame For Our Suffering Now ADAM,EVE Or SERPENT) by CAPTIVATOR: 1:58pm On Dec 18, 2013
macof: You cannot tell the Jews wat their own stories mean, If the Jews say The serpent is just a serpent You have no right to distort Jewish Stories.

revelations is a fraud, The supposed author= John was already dead when that book was written, All evidence points that he was Illiterate, his famous epistles were written by his disciple Prochorus.

And again on wat occasion did satan lie or murder?
....So a Serpent can Speak on its own Ryt! ...Haha, Which history do u read wey tell U say John don die when Revelations was written...U Critics, Dats Hw u accuse Isaiahs Prophecy of afterevent Writing WHEN U SEE D CLEAR FULFILMENT OF ISAIAHS PROPHECY in d case of ANCIENT BABYLON! #SMILES# GODWORD IS TRUTH !
Christianity EtcRe: GENESIS Chapter 3(who Should We Blame For Our Suffering Now ADAM,EVE Or SERPENT) by CAPTIVATOR: 5:03am On Nov 29, 2013
macof: show me anywhere in ur scripture that satan did anything evil without Gods permission
.... U are just beatin around d Bush, I will tell u d Fact, D evil Satan Did in d Garden of Eden...Did He take permission? ....D temptations He gave Jesus,Did he take permission! Nw Bak to d Matter, Who told U satan is not the Handiwork Behind d Serpent #smiles# Read Revelation 12:9 ..Wich CLEARLY shows Him as d Original Serpent of d Beginning, No wonder Jesus refer to Him as a 'Lier and Murderer' John 8:44...to illustrate: Its not Unusual fro a VENTRILOQUIST to make it appear dat his Voice comes from anoda Source. Compare Numbers22:26-31 , which tells that ALMIGHTY GOD caused Ballam She-ass to speak! GET D FACT PLS

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