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Christianity EtcRe: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by CAPTIVATOR:
Apostle John himself knows that soul stands for blood !!!

" for the soul of the flesh is in the BLOOD" leviticus 17: 11,12 !!!

" sprinkle the blood round about upon the altar" Lev 3:2 !
The sacrificial lamb or sheep is related with the altar !
we see the soul or blood of this faithful servant of God in the symbolic Alter in heaven beacause God views their death as sacrifice .

It also says "" they cried out for vengeance" !

How can the blood cry out when its clear that the " dead knows nothing at all" ( Ecc 9:5)!

Remember that when Abel dies, his God says " his BLOOD is crying out from the ground" - Gen 4:10,11 ! Blood cant talk , but what happen is that Abel dies innocent , and the person dat kills him needs d vengeance .... Cain receive dat! In d same manner,d blood of many servants of God killed seek vengeance ! Jer 15:15,16 .

" The one who conquers will thus be dressed in white garment," Rev 3:5 ! This applies to those who have been PURCHASED from among the people on earth (READ Rev 14:1,3,4) who will be ressurected to heaven LIKE Jesus Christ (Romans 6:5), to Rule AS KING AND PRIEST OVER THE EARTH REV 5:9,10
Christianity EtcRe: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by CAPTIVATOR: 11:17pm On Dec 19, 2014
honourhim:
Never dying soul.
Body Killed or dead on earth,
soul alive with God. Soul not in the grave with the body like a dead rat.

Revelations 6:9-11

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
funny person .... I Gave u a scripture , u reply with another ! Tellin me dat the scripture contradicts itself , IT DOESNT!!!

The soul's under the altar is nor refferin to d immortal soul of greek pagans (Genesis 2:7 says man became soul; eze 18:4 says SOUL DIE !!!
Christianity EtcRe: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by CAPTIVATOR: 4:54pm On Dec 19, 2014
honourhim:
At least you have equated yourself with rats. Little wonder you reason the bible like a rat who sees the bible only a mere paper to be destroyed in its bid to satisfy its selfish interest..Your mission to destroy the truth in the bible is a failed one For your info, I am a human with a never dying soul I dont deceive myself like you.
" Adam BECAME a livin soul" Gen 2:7 ! NOT GIVEN
A Soul!

" Adam BECAME a livin soul" 1 cor 15:45 ! NOT GIVEN A Soul!

" ALL HAVE SINNED " ROM 3:23

" The soul that sins - it itself SHALL DIE" EZE 18:4, 20
Christianity EtcRe: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by CAPTIVATOR: 4:01pm On Dec 19, 2014
honourhim:
Useless as a dead rat.
You are slowly gettin to know the truth ...... Thanks A dead rat is useless , it cant talk , move or do anything , it knows nothing again, its brain connectivity is nw off! !!!!

A dead human is also useless , it cant talk, move , or do anything ! The brain , the powerhouse is now off , no more knowledge ...

" the livin know that they will die, BUT THE DEAD KNOW NOTHING AT ALL, nor do they av any more reward, beacause all memory of them is forgotten" - ecc 9:5

"the dead do not praise Jah; " - Psalm 11:17

" For in death, there is no mention of ( God); In the Grave who will praise you ?" psalm 6:5

" they are dead, They will not live. POWERLESS in death, they will not rise up" - Isa 26:14

" Lazarus our friend has fallen asleep .... Died" John 11:11-14
Christianity EtcRe: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by CAPTIVATOR: 11:49am On Dec 19, 2014
honourhim:
How about everlasting fire, unquenchable fire, eternal damnation etc?
In matthew 25:41 ... Jesus said this everlastin fire is prepared for the Devil and its angels , ! In dis same discourse he mentions " goats " and " sheeps" matt 25: 32,33 ! The goat are symbolic , so also the sheep are symbolizing certain group of people !

The everlastin fire symbolize the destruction of Devil and its angel ! Literal fire cant harm a spirit creature dat has no body , and no material substance , no wonder the scripture says Devil walk in d " fire stones " Eze 14:33

An Angel also walk in d midst of fire set up by wicked king Nebuchadnezzar ! ..... An Angel spoke to moses in d midst of a burning bush.

Devil and his cohorts will be destroyed and cutt of from enjoyin the gift of life ! Jesus will bring Satan "to nothing" heb 2:14 !

In jude 7 ..... Complete destruction of sodom and gomorrah is also pictured as "everlastin fire" ! They are " reduced to ashes"
Christianity EtcRe: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by CAPTIVATOR: 11:28am On Dec 19, 2014
honourhim:
Chei, see how falsehood thrives in your brain.
u dont need to abuse him !

Was it only the word hell that you saw in my quote?
u now know its very clear , the word "hell" was fabricated , stupid enuf dey say sheol is hell, hades is hell , gehenna is hell, tartarus is hell ! 4 diferent words as hell ! See that desperate attempt and GREAT FORGERY Sheo'l and hade's refer to " GRAVE" ECC 9:10, ACT 2:31

Gehenna .. Hebrew /valley of hinnom/ is a place where dead bodies are thrown ( jer 7:32)a geographical location in isreal !Christ used it to symbolize destruction .
... Everlastin death without any hope of a resurection !NOT a large scale practice of burning sons and daughters done by isrealites ( Jer 7:31) !God calls dat burnin act " destestable thing" jer 32:35 hop u know d meanin of "Detestable?

Tartarus ... A place of darkness where some angels are said to be till they will be destroyed and cutt off from life ! 2pet 2:4
Christianity EtcRe: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by CAPTIVATOR: 6:34pm On Dec 18, 2014
vooks:
So nothing I do on earth matters because I will be judged on the basis of my future actions during Judgement 'day'?
Ayaff hear u , jez do what u like ...... The same way Judas Iscariot do what he likes and spells doom for himself ! .....
"" When I was with them, I used to watch over them on account of your own name, which you have given me; and I have protected them, and not one of them is DESTROYED except the son of Destruction ! " john 17:12 !!! Judas is destroyed , He will never come to life !

Dats a warning example ! Bcoz its not all the dead that will come alive in resurection, only those who pay attention to Christ .... John 5:25
Christianity EtcRe: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by CAPTIVATOR: 2:24pm On Dec 18, 2014
vooks:
Your thoughts and anyth From whence does he restore your memory and thoughts.....?
" The wages of sin is death" Rom6:23 ! Once a person "fall ASLEEP in death" Act 7:60 , such a person has paid the penalty for his sin and thus now freed !

" he who has died , his FREE from his sin" Rom6:7

So, people are not judged base on their previous sin that has been freed !

Mankind that receive resurection will be judged base on what they did durin the Judgement Day!
" For God has SET A DAY to judge the earth ... Thru a man he has appointed ( Christ Jesus)" Act 17:31

When God set a day, it equals 1,000years ( 2pet 3:9)

This is the Christ 1,000 year reign spoken in revelation ... Those who pursue righteousness receive everlasting life ! While the wicked suffer second " DEATH" rev 21:8! Anythin dat suffers second death, "will be no more" Rev 21:4 !

"the Wicked Will b no more"psal 37:9-11

" God WILL NOT preserve the wicked alive" Job 36:6
Christianity EtcRe: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by CAPTIVATOR:
vooks:
So, if a man's thoughts and everything in him PERISHES upon death, what is judged?
Does God RECREATE a new body that has never sinned and then loads it with memory of the guys who died and then judges them for things they never did?
Jesus said the daughter of Jairus IS SLEEPING , when she is dead ! What a fine illustration

When u ar in a deep sleep, do u know what happens in d midnight ? NO ! So also is death, scripture says " as for the dead, they know nothing at all" Ecc 9:5,10 !

Gentleman, Judgement comes after the resurection of the dead !

" the hour is coming , when all those in the GRAVES will hear the voice of the son of God and come out " - joh 5:28,29

Judgement IS YET FUTURE

" For God has SET A DAY IN WHICH HE PURPOSES TO JUDGE the inhabited earth in Righteous" Act 17:31
!

Purpose of judgement!

" For when there are judgement from God for the earth,the inhabitant of the Earth WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS"Isa 26:9
Christianity EtcRe: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by CAPTIVATOR: 9:06am On Dec 18, 2014
honourhim:
Bro there's nothing you can do about it. Denying it or saying that you are going nowhere does not help you at all.

At the end of your life here on earth its eternity in heaven or in the lake of fire. I'm not begging you to believe as your unbelief cannot wipe it away.
Go and vomit this fabricated religious fiction !

" YOU are dust , and to dust YOU shall return" Gen 3:19 !!!
Adam was in d dust before God created him, and when he dies HE WILL RETURN TO THE GROUND , Out of which he was taken !!!

" his spirit (breath) goes out, HE returns to the GROUND; on that day his thoughts perish" Psalm 146:4 !! When a person dies , his thoughts perish!

"and Jesus called out with a loud voice and said: "Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit. After saying this , he expired" Luke 23:46 !! His spirit is the force of life in him,.... And as a matter of scriptures, Jesus never ascend to heaven until 40 days after his RESSURECTION .(joh 20:17
Christianity EtcRe: 'We Don’t Dabble In Politics': Redeemed Christian Church by CAPTIVATOR: 8:08am On Dec 18, 2014
boolet:
What makes him a baba? Is it his age, disposition or what? Meanwhile,
Jesus referred to Satan as being “the ruler of the world.” So, no matter what worldly faction a person might support, under whose control would he really come? John 14:30. Besides I'm no fan nor foe of ur baba. 1Cor 13: 8- 10 (NIV) 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappear.
So you notice dat Baba ( Father) stuff !! They call these people father WHEREAS they are not
Their biological father, some giv these people a respect they dont even give to their biological Father.

They av forgotten matt 23:9 " moreover, Do NOT call anyone your Father on earth, for one is your Father , The heavenly one" !
Christianity EtcRe: THE FOLLY Of Afterlife by CAPTIVATOR: 10:36pm On Dec 17, 2014
dorox:
When you hear people give testimonies in church and make thanks giving to their pastor on account of their narrow escape from death, you get the sense that they are truly afraid of death.

If heaven is real and tangible to them, then their testimonies would have been of how they almost made it to heaven, and they would not be giving thaks for missing out on heaven.

Indeed, death is the enemy of all men, and the bible tells us that it is the last enemy that will be put under Jusus' feet. So until that time when the sting of death is no more, humas will continue to dread death for it is an enemy and not a friend that sends us to heaven on dying.
Christianity EtcRe: THE FOLLY Of Afterlife by CAPTIVATOR: 10:35pm On Dec 17, 2014
dorox:
When you hear people give testimonies in church and make thanks giving to their pastor on account of their narrow escape from death, you get the sense that they are truly afraid of death.
If heaven is real and tangible to them, then their testimonies would have been of how they almost made it to heaven, and they would not be giving thaks for missing out on heaven.
Indeed, death is the enemy of all men, and the bible tells us that it is the last enemy that will be put under Jusus' feet. So until that time when the sting of death is no more, humas will continue to dread death for it is an enemy and not a friend that sends us to heaven on dying.
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 3:42pm On Dec 17, 2014
FrancisTony:
We are not attending roman gods celebration. We are celebrating Jesus birthday.
Birthday?? ... He himself never celebrate his birthday !!!

There are numerous servant of God in the bible , NONE of them celebrate their birthdays!! ONLY PAGANS DID IT , KING HEROD AND PHARAOH !!! Its gettin interesting


Good that you know it.
What does roman pagan god celebration got to do with ours? undecided
Jeohachin and Jesus were not born the same day !!! But christmas and sun god were done the same day , no wonder kids throw bangers
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 2:21pm On Dec 17, 2014
Elantracey:
We're are not talking about the character but rather his commandments and are you sure you even observe all he's commandments?
Yes, and that is d reason why am tryin my best to avoid a man made celebration that operates a Joint Venture with the Roman sun god
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 12:14pm On Dec 17, 2014
Elantracey:
Did Jesus command you should be on Nl ?


If not then what are you doing here? undecided
Jesus christ whom we are discussin is a bible character !!! Is Seun osewa a Bible Character ??
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 11:59am On Dec 17, 2014
FrancisTony:
1) God created all days.
Fine
2) Jesus ate with sinners.
He did BUT NOT WHEN PAGAN CELEBRATION IS INVOLVE ! HE didnt attend King Herod's Birthday Party


3) December25th is the appropriate date for Jesus celebration to outshine pagan deity.
oh no wonder ! Both celebrations are filled with ' brazen conduct , wild parties, overdrinking, lust ' 1pet 4:3

I supported december25th celebration with biblical proof.
someone was released from prison ! So what does Jeohachin prison release have to with Christ Man Made Date Set On December 25
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 8:40am On Dec 17, 2014
FrancisTony:
20: "teaching them to observe all things I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the age".
of course , BUT am happy u agreed that Christ Himself NEVER Command " christmas celebration" !!!

By the way, I posted biblical quote for December 25th celebration at the OP.
Debunk it, and stop ranting. smiley
Unlike king Jeohachin ..... Jesus was not born on December 25 !!!
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 8:03am On Dec 17, 2014
malvisguy212:
when you say God way of celebration,you don't expect the bible to say the angels were eating and drinking, praising God is another way of celebration.

Romans 14:5-6
5 One person considers one day more sacred than
another; another considers every day alike. Each of
them should be fully convinced in their own mind.6
Whoever regards one day as special does so to the
Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for
they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does
so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

What this verse is saying is that;if you chose a day for celebration or worship God,you do it for God and that day is holy,if you eat meat or the jollof rice( as you called it) as long as you eat it because you are happy for the Lord doing,then it not wrong.
Choose a day! Fine ... Imagine somone lickin a sweet PICKED from the gutter ! Can u ? Its disgusting , DEC 25 was picked from a pagan celebration ! Dirty background
Christianity EtcRe: OPINION: Mary Is The Mother Of God by CAPTIVATOR(op): 7:58am On Dec 17, 2014
johnw74:
Mary is the mother of the Son of God.
Luk_1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
CORRECT !! MARY is the mother of the Son of God ( Luk 1:35) NOT God himself ......
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 7:53am On Dec 17, 2014
FrancisTony:
I repeat once again, "I don't believe in sola scriptural".

I have provided a biblical proof for Christmas--counter it. I don't care if it was recorded or not.
Am NOT askin u to believe in sola- scriptural

Jesus said : ' ... Observe the things I HAVE COMMANDED YOU ' Matt 28:20

Did Jesus command christmas ??
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 7:30am On Dec 17, 2014
misshoree:
so yu trying to say the celebration of christmas is wrong right
U said so

Jesus told and command us " to PREACH " !!

Jesus told us And Command Us to REMEMBER " His Death" !!

Jesus NEVER told us to celebrate his birth !!! Haba ... He himself NEVER did his birthday durin his ministry on earth !
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 7:18am On Dec 17, 2014
malvisguy212:
biblical evidence prove as God send the angels to announce the birth of jesus ,there was great joy in heaven,they celebrate birth of jesus;

Luke2:13-14 '' Suddenly a great company of the
heavenly host
appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,

14
Glory to God in the highest heaven,
and on earth peace to those on whom his favor
rests.”
. Fact 1 : THIS scripture never said they were celebrating " christmas" ! It says They were Praising God in the heavens !

. Fact 2 : The scripture never said those angels are repeating this year after year ! Like apostate churches are doing today .

. Fact 3 : Those Angels were not feastin with jollof rice and chicken as did today !!

. Fact 4 : Jesus is no longer a baby !!

. Fact 5: The apostles document this event, yet they never mis - interprete it as uv done to back a pagan dec 25 celebration
Christianity EtcRe: OPINION: Mary Is The Mother Of God by CAPTIVATOR(op): 10:11pm On Dec 16, 2014
DarryOsh:
you are very funny o. OK, she is the mother of God. Then what? like I said earlier, I'm still having a hard time laying a finger what this thread aims to achieve.
It seems u agree with the catholics that Mary is the mother of God ??
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 9:43pm On Dec 16, 2014
FrancisTony:
Lol. Was all their activities mentioned?

You mean if I decide to wake up tomorrow and start using a particular date/month to celebrate anything for Jesus, it would be a sin because apostles didn't do it.


By the way, I'm a Catholic not a protestant--I don't believe in Sola biblica/scriptural.
-2 Thess2:15;, Paul told us to hold steadsfast to our oral tradition taught to us from mouth to mouth.
DO U KNOW ?

Jesus NEVER command them to celebrate his birth on a particular date ! the Apostles never did such a celebration! Its clear, Christmas is never one of the traditions taught among them .
Christianity EtcRe: About December25th In The Bible by CAPTIVATOR: 9:04pm On Dec 16, 2014
the love of jollof rice and chicken !!!!

@ francistony ..... Show us the scripture that says Jesus apostles celebrate " christmas" ??
Christianity EtcOPINION: Mary Is The Mother Of God by CAPTIVATOR(op): 7:21pm On Dec 16, 2014
What do u think ?
Christianity EtcRe: Watchtower Dishonesty Regarding Trinity by CAPTIVATOR: 7:03pm On Dec 16, 2014
The trinity makes us realize that Jesus christ acted an hypocrite and only pretended to adress God in prayer ....when he himself was the same God !!!

Again, we understand that the Father has always been immortal, hence could not die ( Habakuk 1:12). How then could Jesus have died ?? In dis regard, the trinity make us realize that the Apostles are all false witnesses who declare Jesus death and ressurection since he cant die !!

TRINITY IS A False DOCTRINE
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by CAPTIVATOR: 4:28pm On Dec 13, 2014
[quote author=CAPTIVATOR post=28103977]This guy makes God Justice stupid .......... Adam that sinned is a perfect human , so if Jesus Is A God-man then the ransom has not been paid (inequality at its peak), So All humans are still in their sins !!!

Is jesus a God -man ?? Here what his apostles have to say " for there is one God, and one mediator between God and man, A MAN,Christ Jesus" 1tim 2:5 ! A Man , That Scripture Says "A Man" , infact it calls him an intercessor btw God and man, a man !!!

Once again, i have to remind u that we humans are made a little lower than angels as written in psalm 8:5,6 , what about Jesus ?? Here is it Jesus " was made a little lower than the angels" HEB 2:9 !! Can u see dat ! How can a God - man be lower than angels ??

Is it not written in PSALMS 8:4-6 that humans are those lower than angels!! @ op ... U need to sit down and meditate and stop dis ur copy and paste
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR:
honourhim:
Jesus described it as everlasting fire in Mathew 18
.
Greek Gehenna appears in mark 9:47,48 NOT catholic tool of hell ..... Gehenna / Hebrew Gehinnom Valley Of Hinnom/is a geographical location NOT an unseen place of torment !!!

What is Everlasting Fire ?? ( jer 7:31)

Its a great mistake to refer to evelastin fire as a plot of land created by God to burn his own creatures! God state in Jer 7:31 " they burn their sons and daughters in the fire , something i have not commanded, and that had never even come into my heart" AND THAT HAD NEVER!!! NEVER!!! EVEN COME INTO MY HEART
Jesus knew dis scripture and wasnt contradicting it

Its repulsive to God , we are created in his image and dats why we humans find it repulsive to throw our son and daughter in the incinerator !!! And we label anyone dat does so as " cruel" , how much more God ?

Jesus used everlastin fire to denote complete destruction of d wicked --- check isaiah 66:24

Everlastin Fire is used to denote complete destruction - Jude 7

" in the same manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them, after they had ... Comited fornication ... Undergo the judicial purnishment of Everlating Fire" ! Lols , this doesnt mean fire is still burning in this Cities plus Sodom and Gomorrah ! The fire stopped burning some thousand years ago
Jesus said
they were " DESTROYED" LUK 17:29 and Jude 7 shows dat the destruction to ruin was eternal
Christianity EtcRe: Photo: Seun Kuti Mocks The Redeemed Christian Church Of God by CAPTIVATOR: 7:58pm On Dec 12, 2014
papoose321:
Pastor wey open mouth talk say fela de hell.. Fela almost gave his life spikin d truth even oyedepo nd adeboye de dine and wine wit dis vultures dem no tell dem d truth... Abeg Bleep all u wey spik against seun.. 4 disturbing d peace of others na SIN
Lols , this fictional hell empire of a thing ! Am yet to see a so-called pastor went to the funeral of a politician and say the deceased go to hell ?? Hypocrites , Dey just like scarin d masses with dis religious "ojuju calabar"
Christianity EtcRe: Photo: Seun Kuti Mocks The Redeemed Christian Church Of God by CAPTIVATOR: 7:57pm On Dec 12, 2014
papoose321:
Pastor wey open mouth talk say fela de hell.. Fela almost gave his life spikin d truth even oyedepo nd adeboye de dine and wine wit dis vultures dem no tell dem d truth... Abeg Bleep all u wey spik against seun.. 4 disturbing d peace of others na SIN
Lols , this fictional hell empire of a thing ! Am yet to see a so-called pastor went to the funeral of a politician and say the deceased go to hell ?? Hypocrites , Dey just like scarin d masses

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