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Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 11:19am On Dec 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
What I'm saying is that if your teaching is correct than nobody will died an even if they do all should resurrect again.
But if the whole world won't resurrect then your teaching is wrong from the root. You have to locate the root and cut it down.
Dats what u are sayin ..... NOT what the bible teach

Our lord Jesus didnt say everyone will resurect !

" he that exercise faith in me , even though he dies, will come to life" john 11:25

" God love the world so much , that he gave his only begotten son that whoseoever believe in him MIGHT NOT BE DESTROYED But have everlasting life " - john 3:16

Example of somone that will be destroyed withou an hope of ressurection is Judas Iscariot, " Son of destruction" John 17:12

This doesnt mean billions of humans wont be shown mercy :

" there is going to be a resurection of the righteous and the unrighteous" Act 24:15
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 10:40am On Dec 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
Ok let see what you are saying:
The wages of sin is death.
Jesus paid the wages.
But since this world is ruled by the devil he would force us to pay the wages that Jesus had already paid.
And the God of justice will allow the devil request from us the wages that Jesus had already paid.

Then why did Jesus wasted his precious time on the cross?
If Jesus didnt come , what will happen .... We will all be dead ! Just like animals

When he came , show me where he says people wont die anymore since av died for you ??

This is what Jesus death makes possible for hopeless mankind:

" for death came thru a man ( Adam) and Ressurection of the dead through another man(Jesus) "
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 8:28am On Dec 12, 2014
ROSSIKE:
You've said it all. It is indeed a demented concept, taken serious only by the brainwashed and imbeciles.
The word " hell" is never used in the original scriptures ! It was a tactic to control and loot the masses

God himself banned dis doctrine in Jeremiah 7:31, And Jeremiah 19:5

Just like science belief that the brain is dead at death and all consciousness is lost

Bible agrees saying " as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all" - Ecclesistes 9:5,10
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 8:26am On Dec 12, 2014
ROSSIKE:
You've said it all. It is indeed a demented concept, taken serious only by the brainwashed and imbeciles.
The word " hell" is never used in the original scriptures ! It was a tactic to control and loot the masses

God himself banned dis doctrine in Jeremiah 7:31, And Jeremiah 19:5
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 8:22am On Dec 12, 2014
@ hiswordxray

Jesus knows d present world is "ruled by Satan " John 14:30, John 16:11 .

So he knows people will still continue to get sick, old and die (Rom 5:12) .... His promise is :

" I am the ressurection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me , Even though he dies will come to life" Joh 11:25
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 12:37am On Dec 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
"And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and
not for ours only but also for the whole
world." (1John 2:2)
"The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him,
and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes
away the sin of the world!" (John 1:29)
Those verses didn't say Jesus took the sin of all those who will not sin willfully but it says he took the sin of the world.
" And he died for all (everyone), so that those who live should live No Longer For Themselves, BUT FOR HIM WHO DIED FOR THEM AND WAS RAISED UP " - 2 COR 5:15
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 12:37am On Dec 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
"And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and
not for ours only but also for the whole
world." (1John 2:2)
"The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him,
and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes
away the sin of the world!" (John 1:29)
Those verses didn't say Jesus took the sin of all those who will not sin willfully but it says he took the sin of the world.
" And he died for all (everyone), so that those who live should live No Longer For Themselves, BUT FOR HIM WHO DIED FOR THEM AND WAS RAISED UP " - 1 COR 5:15
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 12:24am On Dec 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
"Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin." (Heb 10:18).
Why does the world has to pay for the sin that Jesus had already paid for?
Heb 10:18 " Now where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer an offering for sin" ! Thats it , though he died once .. Jesus settled it for all time ! No need for continuous offerin of sin as done in the mosaic law from year to year

But concerning all humans " if we practice sin willfully after receivin the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sin left" heb 10:26 !! Dats it, all humans should obey their Creator and forsake d devil who own sin , .... This accurate text shows dat Christ sacrifice wont cover anyone who practice sin !!
For Such Ones " Has trampled on the Son of God and has regarded as of ordinary value the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified " heb 10: 29


" And he died for all so that those who live should live no longer for themselves, BUT for him who died for them and was raised up" 2 corinthians 5:15
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 11:59pm On Dec 11, 2014
Hiswordxray:
OK let me try to understand you.
Are you saying the sin of the world had been paid for but the world have to pay for their sin again if they don't believe?

This means Jesus wasted is time on the cross
Jesus didnt waste his time .... He achieved the followin:

1) Forgiveness Of Sin: we are prone to err as human, through Jesus ransom sacrifice, a sincere person can receive " forgiveness of sin" Col 1:13,14 without havin to slaughter rams and cow as sacrifice .

2) Serving God with a clean conscience: .... The blood or ransom sacrifice of Christ " cleanse our consciences from Dead works, so that we may render sacred service to the Living God" - Heb 9:14

3) HOPE of everlasting life on earth :

"let Ur Kingdom Come ,.... And YOUR WILL BE DONE ON EARTH as it is in heaven" - matt 6:9,10

" the gift God gives is everlasting life through Christ Jesus" Rom 6:23

" the righteous shall possess the Earth and they shall live forever on it" - psalm 37:29 !!!
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 11:44pm On Dec 11, 2014
Hiswordxray:
If Jesus took away the sin of the world and if the wages of sin is death. Since the wages of the sin of the world had been paid then the whole world shouldn't die and if they die then they should be resurrected.
God shows his undeserved kindness by sendin Christ
for the world

" What are we to say then? Should we continue in sin so that undeserved kindness may increase? Certainly NOT" ! - ROM 6:1,2
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 11:16pm On Dec 11, 2014
Hiswordxray:
"And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and
not for ours only but also for the whole
world." (1John 2:2)
"The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him,
and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes
away the sin of the world!" (John 1:29)
Since Jesus died for the sin of the world does this
mean the whole world will resurrect?

Are you saying those verses are not correct?
YES correct .... Jesus takes away the sin of the world , and thus we all now have hope !

But before any son of Adam can benefit from what Jesus has done And be resurected to live forever, this are the criteria :

" For God love the world so much that he gave his only begotten son, So that #everyone Exercisin Faith In Him# might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" ! -john 3:16

Those who use faith in this provision and obey Gods law are d ones who will have the hope of been resurected to everlastin life , while others will be destroyed - john 3:16

" Exercise faith in God (JEHOVAH) , also exercise faith in me ( Jesus)" - john 14:1

" this means everlastin life, THEIR COMING to know you, the Only True God ( JEHOVAH), and the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ" - Joh 17:3 !
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR:
Hiswordxray:
Since Jesus died for the sin of the world does this mean the whole world will resurrect?
Jesus told Martha " Your brother will rise." ..Martha Replied " I know he will rise in the Ressurection at the Last Day"- John 11:23,24

Martha has such a strong hope because she has heard Jesus say:

' Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the Grave will hear the Voice of the Son of God and come out' - John 5:28,29 !

But before makin dis statement , Jesus has already make a powerful statement, which is:

" Most truly i say to You, The hour is comin and it is now, when the dead will hear the voice of the son of God and those who have given heed will live" - joh 5:25 ! Those who had not given heed will neva come to life

An example of someone who wont be resurected is found in John 17:12

" When I was with them I used to watch over them... And i have kept them, and not one of them is destroyed EXCEPT the son of destruction"
! By callin him ( Judas) the son of destruction .... It means Judas is destroyed and has no hope of a resurection

This makes us remember proverb 11:7 that says:

" when a wicken man dies, his hope perish"

" when a wicked man dies, his hope perish"

So also Job 36:6 dat says

" God WILL NOT preserve anyone wicked alive"

BUT SOME PEOPLE DIED IN IGNORANCE ?

Yes , God remembers them ..... We are talkin about people who live without the knowledge of God and His son christ e.g those Nigerian forefathers dat lived and died before the advent of christianity in Africa ! Just an example

The bible says :

" there is going to be a ressurection of the righteous and the Unrighteous" - Act 24:15

The unrighteous here are dose who lived in " ignorance " - Act 17:30

Act 24:15 says this unrighteous ones will be resurected ! They only benefit from the ransom that God provide through Christ

Regarding Ressurection


" it is unthinkable that God would put to death the righteous man with the wicked one so that it has to occur with the righteous man as it does the wicked! It is unthinkable of God. Is the Judge of the of all the earth not going to do what is right? "
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 1:55pm On Dec 10, 2014
Hiswordxray post= 28752232:
Death does not mean when something cease to exist
" In the sweat of YOUR face you will eat bread until YOU return to the GROUND, for out of it YOU were taken. For dust YOU are and to dust YOU will RETURN" - GEN 3:19

Eternal life does not mean continue to exist , it does not mean living forever
" the righteous themselves shall possess the earth and they shall LIVE FOREVER On it" - psalm 37:29

Explain this bible verse ephesian 2: 1 -5
Eph 2:1 said "they are dead in their sins and trespasses" !!! Fine

This make us remember the parable of the prodigal son ! " this your brother was dead and came to life" Luke 15:32 !!! It doesnt mean the prodigal son was packaged inside the CASKET , or he was thrown into earth ...

It simply means he has genuinely repented from sin .... So also the people of Ephesus has repented from sinful works !!
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 11:41am On Dec 10, 2014
Hiswordxray:
You don't know the meaning of death.
Explain the word death in these verses:
Rom 8:6 "For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace."

2Cor 3:7 "But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away"

2Cor 7:10 "For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death."

Rom 7:5 "For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death."
The whole writings is explained in rom 8:6 "for to be carnally minded is death" !!! Lols .... Jesus was carnally minded ! Abeg shift .. Dis is spiritual death !

The question canticles is askin u deals with the real death ! When the brain is switched off
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR:
Hiswordxray:
Sheol or Hade literally means "place of the dead". The closest English word to interpret this is "Grave".
Jesus described this place (hade) in Luke 16:19-31 when he was talking about the parable of the rich man and Lazarus.
Luk 16:22-23 "So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. AND BEING IN TORMENTS IN HADES, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom."
In verse 26 it says "And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us."

Could Jesus be referring to the grave or a place of the dead which was divided into two, the soul of evil people are tormented in one side and the soul of good people enjoy in the other?

Remember Jesus said the "rich man also died and was buried. AND BEING IN TORMENTS IN HADES"
If the soul is not immortal and if Hades is grave how could a dead and buried man be tormented in the grave?

If you read the book of Enoch you would know more about Abraham bosom and Sheol or Hades. It was a book read by most of the Jewish scholars as at that time and it goes into deeper details on What the Hebrew called Sheol.
Go and burn the book of enoch to ashes ......... Its not part of d scriptures !

This greatest mistake you guys are making in christianity is that you dont know something about Jesus

" All these things Jesus spoke to the crowds by ILLUSTRATIONS. Indeed without an ILLUSTRATION he would not speak to them" - Matt 13:34
Thats it, Jesus dont speak without an ILLUSTRATION

Lazarus and the richman is an ILLUSTRATION as the prodigal son ( matt 13:34,35)

God is not mentioned, immortal soul is not mentioned , heaven is not mentioned ! ......somone is in torment yet is speaking , is dat real to you , put your private organ in fire and see if u will be able to converse ! U will only scream l
Take it literal , and uv contradict the whole scriptures
1) it means ABRAHAM is the judge , infact what is d rich man sin ? He has money right ...... " the blessin of God make a man rich" prov 10:22

2) Why is lazarus begging for food if he is righteous ? WHY ....... Psalm 37:25 says the righteous will not be a beggar , talkless of beggin for food !!!

3) did Jesus have to die before anyone have everlasting life ?

" God sent his only begotten son ..... In other that anyone exercising faith him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life " John 3:16

Here u are Sayin some people make everlasting life without Jesus dying and taking away the sin of the world ! By takin it literal .....John 3:16 shows uv render Jesus Death Useless

4) Did Lazarus and Abraham In Heaven as som people also conclude from this ILLUSTRATION

Here is ur answer straight from the scriptures
" NO MAN has ever been to heaven " - john 3;13

" NO MAN has ever been to heaven" - joh 3:13

" NO MAN has ever been to heaven"
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR:
[quote author=Hiswordxray post=28740752]2). Gehenna: this is different from hade ...Verses are - Matt 5:22,29&30. Matt 10:28. Matt 18:9. Matt 23:15,33. Mar 9:43,45&47. Luk 12:5. and Jam 3:6.
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Gehenna is the greek word for hebrew Gehinnom ( valley of hinnom) ..... In the greek septuagint translation gehenna was used in Joshua 15:8 where valley of hinnom appears

For a time .... It served as a mass disposal of rubbish for the inhabitants of Jerusalem #a matter of historical fact# , Gehenna ( valley of hinnom) is not an unseen place of torment , its a geographical location that exist till today
Joshua 15:8

God prophesied that gehenna will turn to a "MASS GRAVEYARD" Jer 7:32

This Is What Jesus is usin Gehenna to symbolize

" Most truly i say to you, The hour is comin, and it is now when the Dead will hear the voice of the son of God , and those who give heed will live" - joh 5:25

What happen to those who dont give heed ? FOREVER DEAD ,never coming to live
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 8:15am On Dec 10, 2014
Hiswordxray:
The word translated as Hell in the old testament is Sheol in Hebrew.
This new testament was written in Greek and there are three different words translated as Hell.
1). Hade: this same word is translated in Hebrew as Sheol which literally means the place of the dead. All the verses that mentioned this word in the new testament are - Matt 11:23. Matt 16:18.Luk 10:15. Luk 16:23. Act 2:27&31. Rev 1:18. Rev 20:13&14.
Am Happy you finally hit the nail on the head that the word "hell" is not an hebrew or greek word and never appeared in the original scriptures !

Sheo'l" and Hades

Ecc 9:10 says all humans will go to " Sheo'l" ( GRAVE english)

Psalm 16:10 prophetically says Jesus was not left in " Sheo'l" ( GRAVE english) ...

Act 2:31 states that Jesus was not left in " Hade's" ( GRAVE)

REV 20:13,14, rev 21:4 states clearly that death and the Grave ( Hades) will be no more
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 10:59pm On Dec 09, 2014
honourhim:
Assuming lake of fire is an empty threat from us, why are you putting in so much effort denying it?
Listen !

1.) it make God worst Than PAGANS

" they do for their gods every Detestable thing that Jehovah hates, EVEN BURNING THEIR SONS AND THEIR DAUGHTERS in the FIRE to their gods" - deu 12:31

2) IT MAKE GOD WORST THAN THIS MAN

"then Nebuchadnezzar became so furious with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego that the expression of his face changed towards them, and he gave orders to HEAT THE FURNACE 7 times Hotter than usual ... And bind shadrach, meshach and Abednego and to throw them into the burning fiery furnace"
- Dan 3: 19,20

3) IT STAINS GOD'S PERSONALTY

" they built the high places of Ba'al in other to Burn their sons in the fire as a whole burnt offering to Baal. Something that I had not commanded or Spoken of and that had never even come into my heart " Jer 19:5
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Fear Of Hell by CAPTIVATOR: 9:07pm On Dec 09, 2014
Hiswordxray:
Believe the truth (for Jesus is the truth) or PERISH IN HELL!!!!!
Stop dis noise ..... Dont try to control an adult child with " ojuju calabar" ! No wonder u cant answer dat simple question canticles gave u,

WHAT IS HELL ? Hell is d english word used to translate hebrew " sheo'l" and greek "hade's " ... Which means " GRAVE" !

REV 20:14 King james Bible
"and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire"

REV 20:14 New international version
" then death and hade's were thrown into the lake of fire"

REV 20:14 NEW living translation
" then death and the GRAVE were thrown into the lake of fire"

Rev 20:14 Aramaic Bible in plain english
"and death and sheo'l were cast into the lake of fire" !

Death here was personified , it cant be tortured, Lake of fire itself symbolize second " DEATH " rev 21:8! Anythin dat goes into d symbolic lake of fire cease to exist

Explained: it simply means " death will cease to exist" Rev 21:4 !
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by CAPTIVATOR: 11:27pm On Dec 01, 2014
Syncan:
Really! Then you should go read your scripture. Heb 1:8. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
c'mon .... This scripture has first been applied to someone before Christ!! Did Jesus marry the daughter of tyre ?? Obviously not ! But the psalmist said d person did (psa 45:9) infact the song is about a beloved women whom a king admires(prologue to psalm 45) !!

First He calls His son God, then He Identifies His person as God (father), who Jesus has humbled himself to obey even unto death. Phil 2:8
there is one God the father .... And our lord Jesus will obey him till eternity !! 1cor 15:24-28 !! The son himself will also subject himself to THE ONE WHO subject all things to him !! Wow ...
FamilyRe: Friend Issue: Is It Advisable To Have A Friend ?? by CAPTIVATOR(op): 8:19pm On Nov 29, 2014
menix:
Bro.. Jst ysterday 9t I had a status on my facebook dat reads "if truly pple reincarnate, I want a stone heart in my nxt life"
D truth I ve come to discover is if u ve a default Good heart, blive mii u wuld b surrounded wiv very useless friendz.

Wiv tears I type this, but ve i learnt? I wuld say no. Y? Bcous I find it difficult to turn a friend down.

If I start sharing my experince am sure it wuld take 5 pages here....

Buh I still blive in friendz..
hmm ..... okay
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by CAPTIVATOR: 11:26am On Nov 29, 2014
Now to your 1cor15:24-28, Note that from the time "the word" took flesh (Jn1:14), Jesus became of two natures (God and man) united in Jesus Christ. Humanity is lower than divinity(phil2:7-8.), such that the father, now have to elevate this new humanity that has been glorified in Christ, after the victory on the cross. It is this new humanity of Christ, which was resurrected, that all will be subject to. Note that as "the word" all things were already subject to him from beginning, for all things were made by him (Col1:16), but as human, he merited the subjection of all things because of his redeeming of mankind.
You must be kidding !!! ....... Is dis the verse by verse explanation of 1cor 15:24-28 , c'mon be serious !!! Pls explain 1 cor 15:24-28 for this thread
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by CAPTIVATOR: 10:07am On Nov 29, 2014
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Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by CAPTIVATOR: 8:20am On Nov 29, 2014
Syncan:
Phil2:5-9 . Christ Jesus "Who, being in the form of God,thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Liars! Tell me where the bold is written? i have also colored something here for you, which you've omitted in order to deceive. Smh. Jesus thought it as robbery my foot, go and change it in your new edition.
eeyah! Na wa for your "thou" "thyest" version o ...... So paul was askin us to consider it not robery to be equal with God ? If u forget i will remind u ; phi 9:5 says " HAVE THIS MIND AMONG YOURSELVES" !! Wich sud hav d mind that we are equal with God .. Uhm ? That Jesus was a liar when he said " father is greater than I" whereas they are equal .... Uhm , dis trinitarian stuff is blasphemy

RSV (REVISED STANDARD VERSION)
Phil 9:5,6 reads " Have This Mind Among Yourselves , which is yours in Christ Jesus " 6 "who though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped" ....... Cleared !!! This renderin agreed with Jesus own word in joh 14:28


#cheeers# mr , i told u ur bliv is of the church and not the BIBLE , or else explain 1cor 15:24-28 verse by verse for this thread !!! Dont avoid it #winks#
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by CAPTIVATOR: 6:32am On Nov 29, 2014
Syncan:
The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods
DEBUNKED " For us there is one God, The Father" 1cor 8:5,6 ! How many God ? One !! Whom is dat God composed of ? The scripture says " Only The Father" ! " Only The Father"

U ar defendin a bliv founded by the church and not the Bible .... " Jehovah" is the only true God john 17:3!

Trinitarians are cowards who search d scripture for selfish ambition, ....... So explain 1 cor 15:24-28 verse by verse for this thread !!
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by CAPTIVATOR:
Syncan:
I see you lack what else to say. See Phil2:5-9 ...Christ Jesus "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant...., Shebi you see how the servant came about? Out of humility says St. Paul.


Jesus my Lord and my God.
I can see u dont understand what u are sayin at all ..... Funny enough, the scripture u just quoted to refute d scripture quoted by canticles said " Jesus thought it as robbery to be equal with God" !!! Wich means Jesus neva think about equating with God ....... GBAM!

Trinitarians Are Cowards who search d scripture to defend a bliv founded by the church and not the Bible ! Dats why am asking u to explain 1cor 15:24-28 verse by verse for this thread !!!
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by CAPTIVATOR:
Syncan:
I don't want to talk much yet. Simply tell me which king of Israel the psalmist was talking about, who he called God in Ps 45:6, and whose name shall be praised forever and ever Ps 45:17. While you are at it, kindly tell me who it was that the psalmist said "They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture" Ps 22:18, since you now do not understand what is prophecy and revelations.

The question continue to be "Is Jesus really God?" and the answer continue to be God called Jesus God in Heb 1:8, therefore he is God. If you have a quarrel with God on that, take it up with Him.

The writer of Hebrew Understood it as, God while talking to His son Jesus, called him God. He made it clear starting from verse one, yet you insist in giving your own interpretation of a fictitious earthly king...Make I de look you.
the passage of Psalm 45 first apply to an ancient human King a thousand years before Jesus was born .... He is marryin the princess of Tyre ( Psalm 45: 9 - 13) !!!

Now it should rather be obvious to most people that God would not be reffering to the Davidic king as " God" !! THE RSV translates the passage as " Your divine throne endures forever and ever"- psalm 45:6 this captures the sense of the passage.

We can see from a review of the original passage that God is NOT identifying the Ancient Davidic King Getting Married to the princess of tyre as "God" , BUT is refferin to the fac that he sits upon a divinely established throne (1 chro 29:23) , NW reads in hebrew 1:8 " God is your throne forever and ever"

The fact that verse 9 says : thats why God, YOUR God annoints you !!! God cannot have a God or someone to annoint him, God's God or what ? Shows that there is a serious problem with the trinitarian translation
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by CAPTIVATOR:
Syncan:
Bro, talk wetin you know o. If God says that Jesus is God, I wonder why we still ask? In Heb 1:8, God said to Jesus : "Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice.
I so much like you for the fact that u deal with evidence ... Thats very cool !!! I later realise that Heb 1:7-9 is quoted from psalm 45: 6,7 wich originally was addressed to a human king in isreal , the writer doesnt have it in mind that the Isrealite King is Almighty God ! But that God is his throne . ..... No wonder the New English Bible says " Your throne is like God's throne" psalm 45:6 ! And God is their throne in isreal simply beacause all the Kings in isreal sits " upon Jehovah's Throne" 1 Chronicles 29:23 NW

With that knowledge, Note also that in Heb 1:7-9 !! Verse 7 says God is speakin ........ While verse 9 shows that the person (Jesus) been addressed is a worshipper , 9 "That is why God, YOUR God, annointed you ..... More than your partners " ! The person been addressed has a God who annoints him as a King
FamilyRe: Friend Issue: Is It Advisable To Have A Friend ?? by CAPTIVATOR(op): 2:21pm On Nov 24, 2014
anthoniaz:
Not really.

Let me give you a gist about a friend or should I say,used to be my friend.Whenever we went out together to buy something, she would want me to pay.We used to buy the clothes then,but different colours, yet she would want to collect them from me because of difference in the colour (s).

When she wedded, I gave her a gift and when she gave birth she was asking of something similar to what I gave her, not minding how much it would cost me (I made what I gave to her) because she likes the things I make but prefers taking them for free as if I collect the items for free in the market.I told her to send money into my account if she wanted it and for the past 6 months or so, she has stopped calling me.Being a parasite is different from playing smart.Those who think they are smart always want to cheat but parasites are kinda dependent on their host(s).Don't know if I'm correct sha undecided
I Grab Ur Point .... U Are Correct
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Believe In Ghost And Dead Spirit Appearing To People? by CAPTIVATOR: 11:29am On Nov 23, 2014
queensley55:
I do because i have seen them(3 times) before,my cousin saw his mom the same the she died,and i know more people who have seen their lost loved ones.
Sometimes when you miss someone the devil takes advantage to fool around with you,and sometimes it's not the devil.

Read it if you have doubts
My cousin sis lost her mom at 15 before she died,they were constructing a farm for her,so she died before they brought the cows,two weeks after her burrial our grandma went through with her plans finished with the farm and brought the cows home,we were looking at a kraal,When my auntie(my cousin's dead mom) appeared she walked through the kraal,smiled at grandma and disappeared in one of the cows,that was her way of saying thank you..
So yes there is more to life after death than what we read in books(bible included)
I Really Feel for ur cousin sister who lost her mum , thats very painful ..... But my sister, while her mum is alive , they do things together and she will neva see her daughter and dissapear !

But how can a loving mum dissapears from the sight of her daughter and mother ?? She is not the one, her image was just been used !!! If she is , she wuld ask about her daughter's welfare and they will cry in each others arm , thats true Ressurection !! This Version is demonic and fake NOT OF LOVE

IMAGINE some situations when, a father died and his family maltreat his wife and children, even sending them to forced labour ....... As a lovin parent, the father will neva allow such, but can he do anything ?? Nope, He Is Dead!! "and As for the dead, they know nothing at all" Ecc 9:5 So Also, " They Are Dead, they will not live .... Impotent in death, they will not rise up" Isa 26:14
FamilyRe: Friend Issue: Is It Advisable To Have A Friend ?? by CAPTIVATOR(op): 11:15am On Nov 23, 2014
anthoniaz:
The people I call friends are those who always want to cheat me, those who always want to collect from me without contributing anything to my life.Friends who will buy something from me and refuse to pay, friends who want to collect things I sell for free.

If you have a good friend, treasure him/her, else stay on your own.I'd rather be on my own than being with parasites.I hate people who always want to play smart. When you refuse to be used, played or cheated by them, you automatically become a stingy and wicked person. angry
Nice one ..... U also said u hate people who always want to play smart , is it just those who behave as parasites dat play smart ??
FamilyRe: Friend Issue: Is It Advisable To Have A Friend ?? by CAPTIVATOR(op): 11:10am On Nov 23, 2014
Dahjhi:
friends are very useful, don't live in isolation.... "" anikan pero leee baya re e se yunkin yunkin.." Its only a lonely/non-advice seeker ble€ps his mother.. Just be selective.. Friend save and kills
hmm .... Friend save and kills !!

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