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Politics › Re: Tinubu Loans: Who Will Pay Nigerian Loans Should Nigeria Break? by Catapault: 8:22am On Nov 23, 2024
babasolution:
Nigeria will n must break up
And when it breaks up, all your problems will MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR.

Tell me something:

Is it a different set of people that will fall from the sky to populate your new country?

Or is the same people there now that will be in the new country?

Just answer that question, please.
Politics › Re: Tinubu Loans: Who Will Pay Nigerian Loans Should Nigeria Break? by Catapault: 8:03am On Nov 23, 2024
Blessedman98:
Buhari in time past and now Tinubu has taken Nigeria into the abyss of Debts.

Everyday you hear of Trillions of Naira approved by National Assembly to be borrowed from international Lenders.

Nigeria is a weakened state and it is even getting worse daily. Like USSR was balkanized there is belief in some quarters that Nigeria cannot remain one country perpetually.

So my question is, who will pay these loans taken by Nigerian (loans leaders) notably Buhari and Tinubu.

These leaders take loans and appoint their friends into position of authority, these friends end up embezzling all the billions of dollars borrowed from Lenders.

Some loans have repayment plans till 2060.


Who will pay Nigeria loans if Nigeria divide?
Break up and go where?

You people should stop this fantasy about Nigeria breaking up.

It's not going to happen.

Why are you doing this to yourselves? undecided

God in his infinite wisdom said ''I will place you in this country Nigeria. Your task is to make it work, so that you can lift up my Children, the great Black race, back to their former position of Glory on Earth''.

That is your task on this Earth. That is why you are here.

Not to break up anything. undecided
Politics › Re: How Nigeria Would Have Been Today Without Colonisation. (AI ChatGPT Report) by Catapault: 7:59am On Nov 23, 2024
brain54:
Clown...
AIR HEAD.
Politics › Re: How Nigeria Would Have Been Today Without Colonisation. (AI ChatGPT Report) by Catapault: 7:58am On Nov 23, 2024
brain54:
You are a clown...

Go gaslight your grandmother.

Not me!
GROW UP!
Politics › Re: How Nigeria Would Have Been Today Without Colonisation. (AI ChatGPT Report) by Catapault: 7:57am On Nov 23, 2024
brain54:
Even AI will tell you it's intelligence isn't perfect...


And that it makes mistakes. Has AI never given you an answer that wasn't accurate before to you? Well, it has to me multiple times.

You put too much trust on these things.

I don't want to call you daft!
AI can never give everyone the 'right' answer. Because what is right to you may be wrong to someone else, and vice versa. Not everythig is black and white.

You are meant to debate and even argue with it. Sometimes it can make a technical error, and you can correct it. It will even apologise and promise to incorporate your perspective etc.

But in terms of overall analysis and historical recollection, prediction etc, it is extremely powerful.
Politics › Re: How Nigeria Would Have Been Today Without Colonisation. (AI ChatGPT Report) by Catapault: 7:52am On Nov 23, 2024
Ritchiee:
Didn't Europe fight among themselves too ?
That guy is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, like many Nigerians.
Politics › Re: How Nigeria Would Have Been Today Without Colonisation. (AI ChatGPT Report) by Catapault: 7:49am On Nov 23, 2024
brain54:
The only toddler I see on this thread is you...
GO TO BLAZES. DUMBITO.

Instead of debating the substance of the thread, you are arguing over rubbish.
Politics › Re: How Nigeria Would Have Been Today Without Colonisation. (AI ChatGPT Report) by Catapault: 7:47am On Nov 23, 2024
brain54:
Technically the question is wrong...

Which was what the guy pointed out.

Take a chill pill and stop calling people daft...even when obviously they aren't!
There was nothing wrong with the question, except to a toddler.

AI is not a toddler. It is called INTELLIGENCE for a reason.
Politics › Re: How Nigeria Would Have Been Today Without Colonisation. (AI ChatGPT Report) by Catapault: 7:41am On Nov 23, 2024
brain54:
No need to call anyone daft...

His premise is correct and precise. Without colonialism they would have been no Nigeria as the independent territories were amalgamated by colonialists!
It is a DUMB PREMISE.

AI understood the question perfectly as it was asked. Meaning 'the territory currently known as Nigeria'.

AI did not say ''there was nothing like Nigeria before colonialists came, so I can't answer the question!!''

Are you a child?
Politics › Re: How Nigeria Would Have Been Today Without Colonisation. (AI ChatGPT Report) by Catapault: 7:31am On Nov 23, 2024
helinues:
How have we been governing ourselves for decades after the colonial masters left?

Even before the colonial arrival, we have been fighting each other
Stop talking rubbish.

Name ONE history book you have read.

Who is the ''we'' that was always ''fighting each other''?

Are you saying everybody everywhere was always fighting? Who told you that?

Just talking rubbish from your colonised head. Any rubbish propaganda colonialists claim to justify their invasion, you will just carry it in your head without investigating if they are lying or not.

Stop being naive, gullible and self-loathing.

How have we been governing ourselves since they left?

FAR BETTER THAN THEY GOVERNED US!

Name one infrastructure or industry you can see around you that they built, in their 70 year rule.

Or you don't know the entire Nigeria was a bush in 1960 apart from Ikoyi where they were staying?
Politics › Re: How Nigeria Would Have Been Today Without Colonisation. (AI ChatGPT Report) by Catapault: 7:28am On Nov 23, 2024
IGBOPROMISE1:
The premise of your question is wrong ab-initio because there would have been no Nigeria without colonisation!
Don't be daft.

Of course the meaning is 'the territory currently known as Nigeria'.
Christianity Etc › Re: Introduction To SHINTOISM by Catapault(op): 5:23pm On Apr 23, 2024
This is African religion in everything but name.

I understand that the Edo people settled in Japan a thousand years ago, and they clearly influenced the country.

There is actually an era known as the Edo Period of Japan, which was from 1603 to the 1860s.
Christianity Etc › Introduction To SHINTOISM by Catapault(op): 5:20pm On Apr 23, 2024
Welcome to the Religion of Shintoism

Shinto (Japanese: 神道, romanized: Shintō) is a religion originating from Japan. Classified as an East Asian religion by scholars of religion, its practitioners often regard it as Japan's indigenous religion and as a nature religion. Scholars sometimes call its practitioners Shintoists, although adherents rarely use that term themselves.

There is no central authority in control of Shinto, with much diversity of belief and practice evident among practitioners.

The torii gateway to the Itsukushima Shrine in Hiroshima Prefecture, Japan, one of the most famous examples of torii in the country.[1] Torii mark the entrance to Shinto shrines and are recognizable symbols of the religion.

A polytheistic and animistic religion, Shinto revolves around supernatural entities called the kami (神). The kami are believed to inhabit all things, including forces of nature and prominent landscape locations.

The kami are worshipped at kamidana household shrines, family shrines, and jinja public shrines. The latter are staffed by priests, known as kannushi, who oversee offerings of food and drink to the specific kami enshrined at that location.

This is done to cultivate harmony between humans and kami and to solicit the latter's blessing. Other common rituals include the kagura dances, rites of passage, and seasonal festivals. Public shrines facilitate forms of divination and supply religious objects, such as amulets, to the religion's adherents.

Shinto places a major conceptual focus on ensuring purity, largely by cleaning practices such as ritual washing and bathing, especially before worship.

Little emphasis is placed on specific moral codes or particular afterlife beliefs, although the dead are deemed capable of becoming kami.

The religion has no single creator or specific doctrine, and instead exists in a diverse range of local and regional forms.

- wiki
Christianity Etc › Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Catapault: 11:50pm On Apr 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Guy you need to upgrade your IQ, it's not just about being peaceful in one locality if so all the groups on planet earth could be peaceful if allowed to pick a location where only their religion will stay on this planet but when i talk about PEACE it's much more than you could imagine.

Jesus commanded his disciples to take the peace message to all the nations of the earth {Matthew 28:18-20} and prophesied that his disciples who are peace makers will gather all peace makers on planet earth to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Act 1:8 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So it's not just claiming you don't fight wars it involves going to your neighbourhood to help them reason that it makes no sense fighting and killing one another.

That's what makes Jehovah's Witnesses unique not just the claim.
For your information Jehovah's Witnesses have helped millions of people throughout the earth from all the continent and countries to learn this fact and these people have formed a global family of peace loving worshipers just as that book says! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

If all the people on this planet are Jehovah's Witnesses there will be no more wars or famine in any place!
You have a lot of nerve telling others to upgrade their IQ.

You're the one who believes 3,000 year old fairytales with no evidence.

Talking about ''Jesus and his disciples'' as if you were there with them.

What is your evidence that anybody called Jesus Christ existed, never mind his ''disciples''?

Are you aware that there is actually no evidence he ever lived?

The mere IDEA that the Supreme Intelligence sent his ''son'' to Earth, and this ''son'' ''proved'' he was the ''son of God'' by changing water to wine at a PARTY, and by walking on a sea without sinking, is so comical and idiotic that only a child would believe it. Which is why they teach you people this stuff when you are CHILDREN.

It is no surprise that VERY FEW people ever convert to christianity as adults.

It's a bedside story for children.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Catapault: 8:49am On Apr 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Let me help you!

Do you know the meaning of the word:


"CARPENTER" ?

How will you feel if billions of people claims they are carpenters but they can't just make a chair which you know is the job of a qualified carpenter?

The man called CHRIST taught his disciples to always make peace at all cost {Matthew 10:16} so he COMMANDED them to LOVE their neighbours {Mark 12:31} LOVE their fellow believers {John 13:34-35} and even LOVE their enemies! Luke 6:27-28

So how come you concluded that those loving violence {Psalms 11:5} to the extent of fighting and killing people indiscriminately including those who supposed to be their fellow believers are Christians is what really baffles me! huh

Just try to compose yourself and figure out the group of people the Bible calls CHRISTIANS first then compare them with what you have today.

However i can present the only Christian group on earth today perhaps you can learn one or two things from their activities! smiley
Look, Mr Man. Maybe you're a Jehovah's witness or 7th Day Adventist or something.

Even if you consider yourselves more 'holy' than regular christians, it doesn't mean there's anything special about you.

Anybody can select the most pious section of its religion and claim they are the best thing since slice bread.

Islam has such sects too.

According to wiki,

''In the 13th century, Salim Suwari a philosopher in Islam, came up with a peaceful approach to Islam known as the Suwarian tradition.

The Senegalese sufi sheykh Amadou Bamba (1850–1927) spearheaded a non-violent resistance movement against French colonialism in West Africa.''


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifism_in_Islam#:~:text=In%20the%2013th%20century%2C%20Salim,French%20colonialism%20in%20West%20Africa.

Buddhists, Shintoists, Taoists, Hinduists, and African religionists have VERY PEACEFUL RELIGIONS.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Catapault: 6:24am On Apr 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Now it's obvious you don't even know the meaning of that word "CHRISTIANS"

Well i will guide you a bit.
There was a man (whether true or False is not the issue but what we heard he stood for) his name is Jesus of Nazareth after preaching and teaching for about 3 years he asked his disciples what people are saying about him and this is how it goes:

When he had come into the region of Caes·a·reʹa Phi·lipʹpi, Jesus asked his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·liʹjah, and still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them: “You, though, who do you say I am?”  Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Matthew 16:13-16

Later after his execution, resurrection and ascension to heaven his disciples were called "CHRISTIANS" due to their strict observance of the legacy this man laid down for them. Act 11:26

So how can people who are producing things designed to harm their fellow man be followers of the same man who strictly warned his disciples never to harm others? Matthew 26:52

My guy you've been thoroughly misinformed regarding that group name "CHRISTIANS" smiley
You're a fanatic talking rubbish.

YOU don't get to decide who is a christian or not.

Majority of christians, including the clergy, support WARS and monstrous military expenditure.

They are not peace lovers.

Even on this Nairaland, majority of christians support Israeli atrocities in Gaza.
Foreign Affairs › Re: 1917 Film Of China Shows Most Chinese Were Black! by Catapault:
RenaissanceGuy:
Europeans went to New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Canada and met these places in mud houses, but have turned them to seas of skyscrapers today. That's what I want to copy, not going about looking for how Blacks were once this or that.
You forgot to mention ''after genociding their inhabitants''.

African explorers did not take civilisation round the world with the intent of mass murdering native populations, and seizing their land and riches to build ''skyscrapers'' for themselves.

Or they could have EASILY done that, because they were militarily strong.

Africans went there to help build societies WITH the local inhabitants.

That is why those societies were multiracial and prosperous for millennia.

Your 'Ends justifies the means' philosophy is savage, barbaric, and unsustainable if the Earth is to survive..

By that philosophy, I can rightfully storm your village now and shoot everybody, and seize the land for the purpose of building a resort or ''skyscrapers'' for the next generation to enjoy.

If it's not okay for YOU, how was it ok for the natives slaughtered by the Europeans in their lands?

If they want to live in mud huts, how is that your problem?

Is it your land?

Or your white master's land?

So if some people develop advanced houses in Japan that look like spaceships, after a while they can come and kill you for living in an ordinary flat?

Kill you, seize your house and build their spaceship house on top?

Do you realise it is that ''might is right'' philosophy of the west that has led the world to the nuclear precipice?

There is a Doomsday Clock that is set at a few minutes to MIDNIGHT, in western intelligence circles, in terms of how close the world is to a nuclear holocaust.

Do you know that any false mistake among those powers now, and the Earth is toast?

Including its 'skyscrapers'?

They spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year building ever more devastating weapons of mass destruction.

They are absolute idiots, these 'whites' you worship.

Their leaders are psychopaths.

They are short-sighted, thoughtless, spiritually bankrupt, arrogant and ignorant.

Their 'me first' philosophy will destroy the Earth absent of external intervention, perhaps from Divinity itself.

The 'intelligence' of the west is actually FOOLISHNESS.

But you're too naive to see it, and are fooled by the ''skyscrapers''.
Foreign Affairs › Re: 1917 Film Of China Shows Most Chinese Were Black! by Catapault: 1:07am On Apr 22, 2024
PureFace1:
ha you are just a lost cause

I have never seen someone so deluded lol
OH SURE....

The scholars and historians referenced whose names you've never heard of, because you are a mental midget, are also ''deluded''.

Only you, with your empty head, knows the truth.

The statues and paintings are 'fake' too.

Ignorant school dropout.

Abeg get lost from this place.
Business › Re: Nigerian "Denied Entry" Into A Chinese Supermarket In Abuja (Video) by Catapault: 11:24pm On Apr 21, 2024
francotunsco:
Lets check the name of the restaurant. Nigerians should go to Nigerian Supermarket and leave China alone with their Supermarket. Give unto Caeser what belong to caeser!
That should be a matter or personal choice, not because Chinese banned you from entering their shop in your own country.

Have small sense nau?

If Chinese would never tolerate you doing that in their country, why are you happy to let them do that to you in your own country?

What is wrong with you?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Catapault: 11:13pm On Apr 21, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
In the Bible is found lots of unbelievable things but then the Bible God made a claim that really touched me and i just can't stop thinking about it ever since i read it.

Whatever is found written before now is of no relevance to me than what is happening in my own eyes.

The Bible God said:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3


According to this prophecy people from all the nations will start studying the Bible and as a global family begin using what is found written in it as their constitution {Isaiah 2:2-3; Micah 4:1-2} this book didn't stop there but goes on to say this people who are using the Bible as their constitution will resolve all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, stop the production of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against humanity! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

There is no miracle ever recorded that's greater than this!

Do you know what it means for people from all the nations, races and tribes on this planet to come out from among their own people and form such a global family of peace loving worshipers {Zephaniah 3:9} right at the same time when all the others are still planning wars against themselves? Revelations 6:3-4

Well i was a Muslim when i first heard this and i couldn't believe it until i found the organization of people in my own generation who are fulfilling this prophecy today!


So with that anything else this book says whether creation story, the global deluge and the rest became simple to me in fact the God who made that type of promise and fulfilled it today can do much more than all the miracles ever recorded in that book! smiley
But the world's biggest producers and exporters of weapons, including nuclear weapons, are CHRISTIAN countries, led by the United States, Russia, UK, France.

This is the direct opposite of your delusions about being ''peace loving worshipers''.

You really need help!
Foreign Affairs › Re: 1917 Film Of China Shows Most Chinese Were Black! by Catapault: 10:59pm On Apr 21, 2024
H. Imbert, a French anthropologist, wrote in his book, Les Negritos de la Chine,

“The Negroid races peopled at some time all the South of India, Indo-China and China. The South of Indo-China actually has now pure Negritos as the Semangs and mixed as the Malays and the Sakais. Even the sacred Manchu dynasty [1636–1912 - the last imperial dynasty in China] shows this Negro strain. The lower part of the face of the Emperor Pu-yi of Manchukuo, direct descendant of the Manchu rulers of China, is most distinctly Negroid.”

- H. Imbert , Les Negritos de la Chine

The article also points out the research of author and professor, Chang Hsing-Lang, and stated that
‘’These professors through their research and studies believe that a Negro Empire actually existed at the dawn of the country’s history citing evidence of substantial populations of blacks in early China, including finding reports of a major kingdom ruled by blacks being frequently mentioned in historical Chinese history documents. And, Chinese chroniclers report that a Negro Empire existed in the South of China at the dawn of that country’s history.”

- - H. Imbert , Les Negritos de la Chine
Foreign Affairs › Re: 1917 Film Of China Shows Most Chinese Were Black! by Catapault: 10:47pm On Apr 21, 2024
''A very great nation of blacks ... did rule over almost all Asia in a very remote era, in fact beyond the reach of history or any of our records’’.

- Godfrey Higgins, Anacalypsis: An Attempt to Draw Aside the Veil of the Saitic Isis or an Inquiry Into the Origin of Languages, Nations and Religions, 1836


https://self-initiated.com/cdn/shop/products/20220502_180824_1800x1800.jpg
Foreign Affairs › Re: 1917 Film Of China Shows Most Chinese Were Black! by Catapault: 10:27pm On Apr 21, 2024
Foreign Affairs › Re: 1917 Film Of China Shows Most Chinese Were Black! by Catapault: 10:18pm On Apr 21, 2024
Foreign Affairs › Re: 1917 Film Of China Shows Most Chinese Were Black! by Catapault:
This is an early statue of BUDDHA.

Founder of Buddhism, a religion followed by nearly 1 billion people today.

He was an African.

A black man.

Why should our people not know this?

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/0f/5d/8b/0f5d8b9243b12c15ecaa14fff4461d4e.jpg
Foreign Affairs › Re: 1917 Film Of China Shows Most Chinese Were Black! by Catapault:
PureFace1:
You are just delusional

I am Yoruba and I know my history, so you don't know who you are ?

If you are not suffering from inferiority complex you wouldn't be so eager to discard your history and be claiming chinese because of some conspiracy theories and propaganda.

If you were great you don't need to claim something far away to prove that, your achievements where ever you are should be enough testament and proof, most of you are just delusional and suffering from inferiority complex.

If you were that great but everyone were able to oppressed and enslaved you then it mean you were not really that great as you claimed you are just deceiving yourselves.

Nigeria can't even build a single developed city that's self sufficient with so many resources and money at our disposal all being siphon by our politicians but idiot like you keep blaming others for your backwardness.

So many things happen in Africa that won't be tolerated in China but you think you have some semblance with Chinese and Japanese and even trying to claim their history, you are just stupid.
Inferiority complex afflicted air head.

Whose fault is that you are an empty head who doesn't know his history?

Who are you calling delusional?

Some of us have been researching African history since before you were born.

When we say the Chinese have a MAJOR and SUBSTANTIAL African heritage, we base it on SCHOLARLY FINDINGS.

In the famous 1836 book, Anacalypsis: An Attempt to Draw Aside the Veil of the Saitic Isis or an Inquiry Into the Origin of Languages, Nations and Religions, by English historian Godfrey Higgins, he wrote:


“I shall, in the course of this work, produce a number of extraordinary facts, which will be quite sufficient to prove that a black race in very early times, had more influence over the affairs of the world than has been lately suspected. And I think I shall show by some very striking circumstances yet existing, that the effects of this influence have not entirely passed away.’’

Higgins also repeated the contention of Homer, the ancient Greek philosopher, that there was in existence two major Ethiopian nations, one, Africa as a whole, and the other one, India!

In fact Herodotus, the legendary ancient Greek scholar known as the ‘father of history’ referred to India as ‘Eastern Ethiopia!’’

According to Higgins, ‘’there were two Ethiopias, one to the east of the Red sea, and the other to the west of it: and a very great nation of blacks ... did rule over almost all Asia in a very remote era, in fact beyond the reach of history or any of our records’’
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He went on...’’We have found the black complexion or something relating to it whenever we have approached the origin of nations. The Alma Mater, the goddess Multimammia, the founders of oracles, the Memnons or first idols, were always black. Venus, Juno, Jupiter, Apollo, Bacchus, Hercules, Asteroth, Adonis, Horus, Apis, Osiris, Ammon, in short, all the ... deities were black. The images remain as they were first made in very remote times.’’

Godfrey Higgins the writer of Anacalpysis wrote:

"the originals of all the Gods have always been of the black race." The ancients viewed the sacred image of the Divine as Black. And woolly hair [kinky hair] was a sign of divinity - called "the hair of the gods."

'In my Essay on The Celtic Druids, I have shewn, that a great nation called Celtæ, of whom the Druids were the priests, spread themselves almost over the whole earth, and are to be traced in their .. gigantic monuments from India to the extremities of Britain. Who these can have been but the early individuals of the black nation of whom we have been treating I know not, and in this opinion I am not singular.'

- Anacalypsis: An Attempt to Draw Aside the Veil of the Saitic Isis or an Inquiry Into the Origin of Languages, Nations and Religions, Godfrey Higgins


You can still find their statues and paintings wherever their settled.

This is CAMBODIA, where Africans established the Khmer Civilisation.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/01/7a/d0/017ad03c58af1aa2fa7b6c57f7a74565.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/54/55/64/545564b072fea37e07e784c68090fa05.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/84/b0/59/84b0591b76e1d2bb22434ea15d6b1b49.jpg

...........


So, no, we are not ''delusional''.

It just seems that way because you don't know your history.

Of course nothing lasts forever. Every civilisation rises and falls. African dominance lasted for thousands of years in these places, and must be acknowledged, celebrated, and learnt from.

Those statues and paintings they made there were for POSTERITY.

So that generations down the line would know the reach and scope of African majesty, which brought civilisation to the world.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Catapault: 11:17pm On Apr 20, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
NIGHTMARES!

That's what people do have after watching horror movies or read terrible things so that doesn't make their nightmares a reality.

If anyone wants to prove to me that there is somewhere better than this place after they die let them go Sharp Sharp no story! smiley
USE YOUR HEAD.

Is THIS current Earth life you are in ''a nightmare''?

Is it ''a dream''?

NO.

To you it is REAL, correct?

WHY IS IT REAL?

Whatever answer you have in your head to that question, MULTIPLY IT BY 5 OR 10.

That is what NDEs experienced.

So if anything is not REAL or is a 'NIGHTMARE', it is YOUR CONDITION HERE, not what they experienced.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Catapault: 11:04pm On Apr 20, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Lesson kwua? cheesy

What stupid lesson am i learning in a place that's not good for me when i can move to a better place where all my needs will be met?

We are talking about a better place so there's no need for excuses if you're sure of the better place! cheesy
What is even your point?

Are you saying that the experiences of these people are not real?

Or that they're all lying?

Did you watch that Prof's video up there?

Does that man look like he is lying or crazy to you?

Over 22 million Americans have had an NDE in which they existed separate from their physical bodies. Millions more around the world.

And they say that THAT experience felt MORE REAL than this one.

So what are you arguing about?

There is nothing to argue about.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Catapault: 10:08pm On Apr 20, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I want you to make this personal!

If you truly believe what this people told you i am asking you in person:

Between this side and the other side which one do you prefer?
Look, everyone has a natural in-built fear of dying.

Nobody wants to die.

Even those NDEs that went over there and were begging not to be sent back here, when they got back, they didn't want to just die and go back there again.

It's just a natural thing to want to remain WHERE YOU ARE, be it over there or over here.

It's the way God made us.

BUT it does not negate the fact that THAT SIDE is a on a totally different scale.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Catapault:
African-American Professor Recounts His NDE

This man says that there are many levels of heaven. The astral plane is the next level up from here, and is where we go when we 'die'.

He says that just like money is our currency here, ie what you can use to enjoy a higher living standard, on the astral plane, the currency is the ability to move up to higher levels of heaven, by experiencing a dense, physical, imperfect world.

Like Earth.

He says that just as someone can bribe you here to do something unpleasant, and pay you 5 million dollars, there are people on the astral plane that can bribe a soul to come to Earth and live an Earth life for x number of years, and they will tell you the exact life you will live, the suffering you will endure, and how long you will live, and the payment you get for that is that when you return, you will move up to a particular higher plane than the astral plane.

He said many souls accept the bribe since an earth life is just a few years compared to the equivalent of 3,000 to 4,000 years of an astral body.

Those who refuse the 'bribe' and wish to proceed at a natural pace to the higher level take much 'longer' - often the equivalent of thousands of years - to get there.

Whereas ONE Earth life can get you there, once you come back!

Because Earth is a ROUGH place that trains you with the right spiritual experiences which enable you to advance up the ladder to the greatest heavens, much quicker.

Incredible testimony.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTobOwDaiSM&ab_channel=AboutFreedomShow
Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Is Now An Embarrassment by Catapault(op): 11:41pm On Apr 19, 2024
Congrats321:
You think Iran has more military capability than Israel?
It's not so much about who has more military capability. They are roughly evenly matched.

The problem for Israel is that they are just a tiny country with a small landmass and 8 million people, while Iran is a huge country with 88 million people.

So if war breaks out Iran can 'afford' to have even 10 million casualties, lose some infrastructure, and still exist.

Israel, if they lose even 2 million people, it would be huge disaster for them.

That's a quarter of their population wiped out.

And their tiny country would be devastated.

They can't annihilate Iran with their nukes, because Russia, who have a defence pact with Iran, would retaliate with nukes against Israel.

So Israel just needs to chill.

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