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Religion / Re: The Kaleidoscope-why I dumped Christianity by ccarefulwind2(m): 9:42am On Jan 06, 2019
When good is hungry, it seeks food, it even ventures into unknown and deadly territories in search of what to eat. And when its (good) thirsty it can even drink from dead waters, just to quench its thirst.

At the Op, i can only say i wish you good luck and also be courageous.

Peace
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Federal Road Safety Commission 2018 Recruitment: How To Apply by ccarefulwind2(m): 5:44pm On Jan 04, 2019
nho4:


Does the drug test include those taking tramadol

Lol... Just be on lime juice and drank lots of water from now on... Then thank me later.. smiley
Religion / Re: I Am Confused? by ccarefulwind2(m): 5:47pm On Dec 24, 2018
JoannaSedley:
I am a lady.
Not a pagan. Just indifferent.
The hypocritic posts of some of the Christians here push their confused brethren who are sitting on the fence over the edge like the poster you quoted.

cheesy
Religion / Re: I Am Confused? by ccarefulwind2(m): 5:45pm On Dec 24, 2018
Kholiwe:
Would you say it is illogical for God to punish people in eternal fire? If so, are the Jehovah's Witnesses right in their teachings?


I will reply you based on the religious concept you have in your mind.

Now, know that hell or heaven is in your heart, driven by your thoughts; good or bad, love or hatred, life or death... Provb 4 : 21 - 23.


Enjoy yourself and your blessings from your God, keep your heart pure, stick to the right path and you will be safe.

Every religion have their own ways, that they have programmed, for their members to follow.

Be watchful.

Peace...
Religion / Re: Hands As Our Humble Servant by ccarefulwind2(m): 6:33pm On Nov 25, 2018
Cont.


By constantly becoming aware of our hands and our fingers, we come to the thought that they are actually transmitters of energy and knowledge in which our fluid thoughts take form.

If we but take this into consideration, we will see a positive transformation in our lives. Every moment and gesture becomes of utmost importance to us.

Poise is gained, and calm envelops all life within and without.

We pray with these hands ; we write our poems on the walls of history with these hands ; and we build for mankind the continuity of our future being with His mighty hand.

Peace...
Religion / Re: Hands As Our Humble Servant by ccarefulwind2(m): 6:23pm On Nov 25, 2018
Cont.

The human intelligence invents other tools, and a friendly relationship develops between them and man, who by mastering the gestures of the tool can expand. The tool is being held by five fingers that adapt to it, while the tool serves to create.

Visualize for a moment, the hands of the scribes of old and their magnificent work. Even in our technologically developed society which seems to take man away from nature, we still need these hands to operate the machines which are made in man's image.

The leader within man, his will, has the ability to choose. He can direct his hands to do negative things, such as killing, or into positive channels, such as hugging his beloved ones. If man is awaken to this realisation of choice, then he will use his hands to serve, to give and work for the benefit of others as well as himself.

Just as the hands feed by bringing food to the mouth, so too are they fed. Therefore, the law of giving and taking is expressed in the same breath.
Religion / Hands As Our Humble Servant by ccarefulwind2(m): 6:09pm On Nov 25, 2018
Greetings to you all.

I will like us to discuss about our "Hands", as our humble "Servant".

THE SERVANT

This phenomenon that is taken for granted by many, "The Hand", a magnificent grouping of bones, muscle and skin formed in such a beautiful way, has as its Ultimate goal, the very purpose of life, " To Serve".

We do not separate the hands from the body and the spirit. There is a simple relationship that has been emphasised here, namely, obedience and silent service. The spirit makes the hand and the hand makes the spirit. That reveals a state of conscience in every action in which the hand is involved, even that of stillness. The hands organises the expression and the action directed from within.

The gentleness and innocence of the small hand of the newborn baby, closed and suggestive of holding a secret in its tiny fist, seems as though it is saying : " I have come to give; I have something in my hands".

The hands of a dying man are open, as if saying: " i have given ; my soul can now soar to other plans".

In observing nature and its laws, the Creator in action, we find the truth that man is the tool of God, and his hands are the instruments through which creation is expressed.
Religion / Re: DO YOU WANT YOUR DREAM TO BE INTERPRETED ? by ccarefulwind2(m): 5:40pm On Nov 23, 2018
NoGender:

The same poster replying his post!
cheesy
Religion / Re: Why Do People Fear Celestial Church People by ccarefulwind2(m): 5:02pm On Nov 23, 2018
Following... cheesy
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 8:14am On Nov 21, 2018
Brief Explanation regarding the Acquisition of the Occult Knowledge, for the public to grasp a little idea of what its all about.

The Acquisition of Occult Knowledge

The journey to acquire the secret knowledge of
the ages involves the very transformation of
one's being, which itself rests upon one's
motives and the actions that flow from them.

Indeed, the transformation is accomplished by
the very means used to acquire knowledge, and
the essence of the knowledge in question.

There are two types of knowledge one must
consider:

1) 'Book' knowledge - that obtained from
learning; acquiring facts and figures for example.
Such knowledge is allied to one's intellect.

2) Experiential Knowledge - that which is
obtained from direct experience of something.
Here, the word for knowledge in Greek is gnosis.
To know something in this sense is to experience
it.

Now seeking esoteric knowledge is indeed a
dynamic process. It involves one's initial
character and pre-dispositions, capacity for
intellectual contemplation, decision making, and
the will as directs one to experience various
states of being i.e. obtaining experiential
knowledge (gnosis) of a transformative state.

In consideration of the list given above then, the
Occultist - as a rational actor - would ask himself
the following (intellectual) question regarding
any given practice:

" If I do this; if I explore this area or
experience this thing, will it purify,
elevate or advance me, or will it pollute,
contaminate or retard me? "

This is a subtle point, and to explore it further
one should consider the two sides or paths open
to the initiate of The Mysteries. The Path of
Darkness and the Path of Light.

Regarding the above, to the aspiring Occultist, choose wisely. And to public, please read the above again closely, before you judge.

Peace
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 7:42am On Nov 21, 2018
Anas09:

Lol. all dis victim card game na for me?

Most of what i've been doing here is ask you questions which you refused to answer. You want us to have a discussion, but what i see here is an attempt by you to bring people in here and tell them what you want them to hear, without any input from them. Dat one na discussion?

You called me into this thread to discuss Occult, when i asked why you'd call a Christian to discuss Occult, you said, there's nothing strange in Occult, as even Christendom is Occultic. My dear you've been making assertions here that if not probed, an ignorant person might believe you.

The reason i gave out time to linger here is so that the spiritually lazy Christians won't read you and go off believing your Occult brothers who have stealthily walked into the Christian fold masquerading as Pastors to be true. Anything outside the Word of God and used within context, is satan trying to deceive.

Now you accuse me of spiritual abuse. But, technically, you are the abuser here. You and your brother in other to justify your satanic activities, you resorted to bringing Christ into your darkness, by asserting all sort of ridiculousness.

You said, pastors hide most deep Occultic Christian knowledge from their members but reveal them to the spiritually matured and to a few of their cronies. And, i asked who they were and if their teaching were Biblical, you dodged. Now you are attempted to black male me by making me feel guilty of something? lol.


Sir, emotional blackmail does not work on me.

I asked you who sat at the helm of Occult believers, i expected you to give me a name, again, you dodged. I expected that you'd be bold to say satan, and then go on to give me reasons why you choose to study him, but, you've tried to steer the discuss away from him intending to keep him hidden behind the scene. Typical of him.

Sir, If you can't be open and proud of what you're doing, then chances are that, you've involved yourself in something bad. pls quit. I am a Christian and i will stand anywhere and shout it out. Not ashamed to call Christ my God. Why aren't you proud of satan tho?

You can't seriously believe your allegiance is not to satan, do you? Stop feeling victimized biko. If anything, the victimization is coming from you Occults who do everything to destroy the faith of believers in Christ.


Welcome
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 1:23am On Nov 21, 2018
Anas09:

Good to know i amuse you.

Of course, you do. And do you know why?

Because your words reeks of spiritual abuse and in your own case, yours is verbal.

You feel it is spiritual zeal or even spiritual maturity, but i tell you, you wrong.

Let me tell you some characteristics of spiritual
abuse that you and also Christians can become aware of.

Observers, please take note.

Spiritual abusers often:

1. Exploit the doctrine of our fallenness to
accuse, berate, critique, attack, belittle,
condemn or produce guilt in the victim.
They may cultivate or take advantage of
their victim’s conscientiousness in
regards to moral matters in order to
make them feel like the real problem is
the victim’s inferior spirituality. They
may make the victim feel like the only
reason things aren’t better is because
the victim is immature.

2. Exploit the doctrine of our fallenness to
excuse or minimise the severity of their
own behaviour. They may try to convince
the victim that since everyone is sinful,
their abuse is normal, and they shouldn’t
expect anything different.

3. Exploit the doctrines of forgiveness and
reconciliation to demand that a victim
forgive the abuse, even if there has been
no real repentance. They may pressure
the victim to ‘move on’, as though any
ongoing hurts are the result of ungodly
bitterness or resentments. They may
demand that forgiveness equate to the
restoration of all the previous conditions
of the relationship (including contact,
communication and trust).

4. Use the busyness, stress, pressures or
responsibilities of ministry to excuse
abuse. Abusers may use ministry to
excuse deliberate neglect of the victim.
They may blame outbursts, aggression,
physical violence, on the pressures of
ministry, making the victim feel that they
can’t critique the abuse without also
critiquing a valuable ministry.

5. Use the Bible to justify abusive
behaviour, and insinuate or explicitly
state that if the victim understands the
Bible differently, the difference of
opinion is actually a product of sin.

6. Use their - apparently - sophisticated
knowledge of the Bible to position
themselves outside of the teaching and
authority of church leaders.

7. Use the Christian community to protect
the abuser, and isolate the victim. The
abuser may make himself or herself vital
to significant ministries, in turn making
the victim feel responsible for their
possible collapse if they revealed the
abuse. They abuser may manipulate
others so that they think highly of the
abuser and think little of the victim,
making the victim feel like they wouldn’t
have any support if they did expose the
abuse. The abuser might paint
themselves as the long-suffering or
patiently enduring partner of an erratic or
dramatic or emotional woman (or child),
undermining the victim’s credibility
whilst underscoring theirs.

8. Lie to the victim about how they are
regarded by the Christian community,
isolating them from possible sources of
support.

9. Isolate their victims socially, making
excuses why the victim cannot
participate in social or spiritual
gatherings, and limiting their access to
either information or support, or both.

10. Appeal to the work of evil spirits as
explanations for the victim’s accusations
or behaviour.

11. Attribute accusations against them to
the work of Satan.

12. Use Bible passages about generosity to
justify controlling the victim’s access to
money.

13. Use Bible passages about faithfulness in
marriage to justify limiting the victim’s
social life.

14. Use Bible passages about rebuking to
justify verbal abuse.

15. Use Bible passages about sexuality to
justify rape and sexual assault.

16. Use Bible passages about unity to justify
silencing the victim.

I urge you to change my friend.

Note : You are not the only one with a thick skin.

I rest my case at these point, good night friend.
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 12:35am On Nov 21, 2018
I will explain a little bit about the occult path of Light, in other to clarify and allow some of the accusers that read these thread, to observe closely, before jumping into conclusions of pointing fingers at any Occultist they come across.

The Occult Path of Light

It is almost ironic that the occult path of light is
far more difficult to explain than the path of
darkness, i must confess. For the path of darkness, there are no restrictions on behaviour as such.

While The path of light however does involve restrictions.

From a Christian perspective one may cite a line from
the Bible whose surface level meaning
encapsulates this point: "Enter ye in at the strait
gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way,
that leadeth to destruction, and many there be
which go in thereat." (Matthew 7:13).

I tell you, Love of the Divine and love extended towards all others is key to this path. It is the guiding
principle. And here recognition is given to the
reality of Divine Justice within the Cosmic
Framework.

In their search for esoteric knowledge the
occultist on the path of light will exercise great
care in how they interact with both their fellow
men and with the spiritual world itself.

For study of the ancient mysteries is of course a given, but that said, there will be extreme contemplation in deciding just which spiritual experiences one should acquire i.e. gnostic experiences.

Though in many schools of thought allied to the path of light, there will be an almost outright prohibition
on taking any types of psychoactive substances
as a means to explore the spiritual realm.
Indeed, such artificial means as these are held
to be very dangerous; plunging the initiate into
the spirit world unprepared.

Moreover, there is also the suggestion that such
experiences retard the journey of the soul;
affecting its upwards progression over several
lifetimes.

That being said, certain controlled mental techniques properly developed within the initiate to interact with other realms do tend to be allowable. Remote viewing would be one example.

On a related matter, one may consider also the
practice of attempting to communicate with the
souls of the dead. Indeed, no offence to the spiritualist, the whole 'Spiritualist
Movement' whose primary focus is upon this
very activity is eyed with extreme suspicion.
Indeed, it is held by some to be potentially very
dangerous on a number of levels.

The first thing to note is the danger to the
departed soul. For one that has passed away
from the realm of life, forcibly dragging them
back into the 'circle of a spiritualist medium' is
an extreme violation of the soul - even damaging
it in its journey. If one truly wishes
communication, then one must ascend to the
region of the soul they seek, and not the other
way around.

The other point to note is that Spiritualism can
lead to communication with malevolent entities.
Indeed, certain beings feed off of the tense
atmosphere and fear present at such circles.

An initiate on the path of light must be very wary
about association with such groups, and most
especially should never seek to allow their vessel to
be a container for another entity.

For the path of darkness is very sticky, and her students are the reason why the public have always seen the occult ways as evil.

To the initiate, "Seek always wisdom and understanding in the quest for truth & purity".

Peace...
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 10:23pm On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:

And here you are the 21st Century Aliester Crowley, the messiah of the modern world by Occultic teachings.

Oga, We Choose Our Paths. You Have Chosen yours, and i mine. good luck with yours. I live or die, stand or fall with Jesus.

Lol... Aliester Crowley? Hmm...

Madam, i hear you. Good luck then cheesy
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 10:19pm On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:

Whichever term you choose to describe me won't make me leave what i'm in the middle of to do as you bid me. If i was less busy, i could read your theory. But, i have a life, plus, i have to make out time to read what will build me spiritually for now.

So, good luck with the name calling, i'm used to it. I'm as tough as the bark of an Iroko tree. it doesn't get anyway beyond NL. lol

Lol... Funny you
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 10:14pm On Nov 20, 2018
MiddleDimension:
@ccarefulwind2, with which organization do you study?

I mostly study with The Ancient and Mystical Order Rosæ Crucis (AMORC), also known as the Rosicrucian Order.

Peace Profound
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 10:07pm On Nov 20, 2018
ugnoble:


Still keeping mute to my question.
What is your reason of going into the occult?
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 10:03pm On Nov 20, 2018
MiddleDimension:


occult simply means ''hidden''. and yea, Jesus had a secret school, which met in a secret place, known by a secret name, and also had secret disciples. all of these claims are clearly shown in pages of new testament.

the only reason these claims are unbelievable, heretical and blasphemous to you is because you have demonized the word, ''occult''.

Welcome
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 10:01pm On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:


Your evasiveness is commendable. You refuse to say who the source of Occult is.

Did the Creator say you should search for him through the Occult hidden knowledge? Are you sure you believe that Jesus is the creator of Heaven and Earth, the Source of all things.
The Bible is an open book. The Holy Spirit is readily accessible, yet you need the Occult to know Jesus? lolz


If you know satan as i know him, he'lll cease from being a monumental mystery to you. Then you'd know that not everyone accords him reverence that you do. I am human created in God's image, he is not. I am vested with the glory of God. he is darkness and will remain so. he is so jealous of me to the point of trying to kill me.

If you know what fear is, you won't attribute to me. Isn't it insane to be fearful of dark in the middle of day light? I live in Light, i can never fear darkness.


I will respond to this if you'd tell me their Source. Everything has a source, What is the source of Occult?


You really make me laugh with this your delusions.

I don't need to go into the Occult to know Satan. I know him.

Enjoy your occultism. Everyday that passes is a countdown to us dying. When we do, you'd wish you heed my warning and left satan alone.

Good bye.

You amaze me with your written words. Your assumptions towards me is baseless. It only reveals more about the ignorance the public has towards the occult.
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 9:51pm On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:

My hands are full right now. I just finished True Christianity Vol. 1 & 2. I reading Divine Love and Divine Wisdom. Divine Providence is waiting for me. So, i don't have to read any Conspiracy theory by an Occult who believes satan created the universe.

No offence please, but i say you are just being narrow minded.
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 9:43pm On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:

It's call growth. And, it's not hidden and done in secret.

Your perseverance is commendable.

What is your own definition of spiritual growth?
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 1:43am On Nov 20, 2018
I make it clear on these day, that just as we have good and bad pastors, imams, monks, spiritualists, etc that is how we also have good and bad Occultists.

There are always two sides to a coin.

The occult (hidden knowledge) itself is not evil, people make it look evil. Though, you have to be careful not to be mislead by the left hand path walkers, allowing them to pollute your studies will do you more harm than good.

As for me, i prefer the right hand path and once in a while, i jump to the middle path, to keep me abreast with whats going on, on the other path.

Note: The right hand path is better and more safer, than the middle path and the left hand path.

There is nothing to be afraid of the Occultist, they are humans with emotions like you, so don't be afraid to walk up to them and ask them about their practices, they will gladly accept you with open arms, if your motives are genuine.

Thanks

Peace...

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Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 12:52am On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:

Okay. So, the misuse of Tongue is the reason these your mystery pastors choose to keep the deep teachings of Christ or Occult Christendom knowledge secret to some but reveal them to those they had watched and personally mentored?

Do you know that soooooo many satanist take that label pastors when they are indeed agents of darkness? Yes, they are and the Lord warned us about them.
And, i think that is the crowd you are rolling with.

Oh wait!!!!!, Lest i forget, you called The Lord Jesus, The Lord of the Heaven and Earth. The Beginning and the End. the author of Life and Light an Occultist. Yeah you did.

This is where i end my discussion with you.
so now you agree with me that even some pastors in your church, are evil? Yet you point fingers at only occultists, as being evil, forgetting the fact that in every surrounding, organisation, religion, etc, you will always find good and evil, staring at your face.*thanks for your contribution dear friend*
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 12:39am On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:

I did all of that. What is your point?
Trying to know the deeper things of YHWH, which not everybody knows, is called what?
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 12:34am On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:

Oh, this is how you came up with an Occultic Jesus?

Listen, before Spencer was born, the Bible was in existence. I think we should go with the older book written by many authors, than with one.

By the way, you can help us and post what Spencer says about Jesus here. You see, i have a life, i don't have that time to read Spencer.
read the book then we will discuss more on it
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 12:31am On Nov 20, 2018
Dorammy:
Gather here people, hear what guru is saying about Jesus....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu0tOHJlAtE
welcome
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 12:28am On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:

So, if you say the branch of Christianity the said pastors practice their members will know?


Its as simple as saying 'Evangelical'. No name mentioned, no denomination mentioned.

Lolzzz. I think you made that up.
cheesy I still stand by my words
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 12:24am On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:

To know more about Life you need to know the deep things that defines and moves it? And these deep things are found in the Occult? Wait a sec. If i hand you an invention you had never seen before, you wouldn't know what it is or it's purpose or use. The invention itself wouldn't be able to tell you either, it's only the creator or the manufacturer of that invention can tell you what the invention is and what it is for. Will it be rational to boycott the inventor and resort to asking someone else?

General Olusegun Obasanjo brought the GSM to Nigeria is not enough to bypass Nokia manufacturers and other GSM companies at that time and go to Obasanjo and say 'Teach me the deep things of GSM'.

God is Life. Everything on this earth comes from Him, but, instead finding out about life from Him, you'd go to a lair?

Don't you think that if Satan is the author of life he'd ve created his own specie of humans instead of possessing you guys and trying to live on earth as flesh because Jesus was able to do it?


Why not? You want to discuss the Occult, but rather not talk about Satan? See? this is the point. You guys lie to yourselves and others, trying downplay satan, when he is the center of occult. Some will even to on to tell us that satan does not exist. Why does satan likes hiding?

We shd discuss standing on what premise? It's like saying 'let's discuss the Bible, but not Jesus'. Wow.


Your emoji expresses your state of mind to your readers. Yeah, it incites humor but also conveys messages.


I'll pray for you today. This evening. Yesterday was solely for Jesus. It was Hosanna Service. Praisefare. All praise offering and dance to the Lord. We asked for nothing.

Today, i shall pray for encounter for you.You'lll be a viable vessel for His use. You have a sharp mind, kind demeanour and some what gentle spirited

Can i recommend a book for you? Promise you read it.

"Secrets of Heaven", by Emmanuel Swedenborg.
download the PDF version and read pls.

'True Christianity', by the same author will turn you down side up. becos right now, your state is upside down. No offense pls. i was like you too.
* you say it is only the creator or the manifacturer of the invention that can tell me what the invention is and what is for? Yet you call it satanic for one to go in search of the creator, to know how the invention came about? Very funny. * * we still came back to the point of these thread. All i sense from you, just like others before you, is fear of the unknown, when you dare into the occult. And in defense to these fear, you accuse them (occultists) of being satanists, dark and evil, forgetting that these accusations has also been discovered times without numbers in your church. But you prefer not to admit it. * * i tell you, do not be afraid of them, for they are among the best and bright minds you will always meet.*

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Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 12:00am On Nov 20, 2018
Anas09:

In other words, everywhere on earth, the Law "Love your neighbour as you love yourself applies? If this is true, then there's one single human who has ever lived who did not know YHWH intrinsically. For, anyone who knows the Universal law " Love your neighbour", must know which law precedes that. How can any go on loving their neighbours witEveryonest loving God? They couldn't know that law without it's giver.

That said. There's no culture in human history which did not have God in them and with them. The point is rebellion. The sense of revolt to live free in sin predicates Sin. And, there's no single culture which didn't have the Ten Commandments whether written or as Folklore from Adam.

Every culture knew and knows that lying was and is wrong, stealing, dishonesty, cheating, killing another human being, backbiting, having sex with another mans wife or another woman's husband is wrong. The Law of God is the blue print or God's signature inside every human from creation. It is intrinsically underlies Humanity.

Cain didn't have the law, 'Thou shall not kill', but when he killed Abel his brother, he hid. When he was called out for it, he lied. Everyone knows what Sin is, the difference is our levels of disobedience.


The Lord instructed that act of kindness shd be done secretly. And the reason is so that pride won't enter into you when men praise you for it.
Let everything you do be for the benefit of who received your help and the glory shd go to God who is your source. You shd know that you are only a channel and a vessel through which God passed through to reach your benefactor. Take no glory for anything you do. No hypocrisy.

Those who take glory for their deeds do not Love their benefactors, they love themselves and live on the praises of men. The Lord says his followers shd not be like that.

Believe me, it is hard for any Occult person to sincerely help the needy without an ulterior motives. To get higher in their Occult world, they must take from others, spiritually i mean.

Satan says, Take and keep for yourself, Jesus says Spread and share to others. Look around you.


You mean Satan is the Source of Mathematics, Biology, Geography and History? What the Hell? Have you ever heard the word 'Usurper?', that's who satan is. He is a thief. identity thief, ideology thief, knowledge thief, he steals everything.

Do you even know that Occult deals with the Supernatural and Mysticism? The great Scientists who were and are true Christians, Sir Isaac Newton was one. How do they and how did he know so much? Was he an Occultist?

I thought you said there's a supreme being who created everything, could you by any chance be referring to an entity other than YHWH?

You mean the Occult provided them the intellects, the sound mind and the understanding to study Mathematics?
Pls say it straight, Satan is the source of Numbers. Say it.

Do you why they hide? They are thieves, liars and deceivers. And they have got you so deceived to believe that what they do comes from satan when in essence, it all comes from YHWH to us.

Trust me, if satan has half of the power you accord him, he wouldn't bother with us in this planet, he'd ve created his own specie of creatures. Awake from this deception and see the deception. You are abandoning the creator who has satan in his hands to follow satan who himself is a creature like you. Right now, you are better than Satan because you can be redeemed, he can not.

There's no power in Occult. In the face of true power, and Light, they run and hide.
* it is hard for any occult person to help the needy? I disagree. Tell me about pastors that takes from the needy to fill their own account? * * stop choking words down my throat and making it seem like i put them there. Have i in any way mentioned satan as part of my discussion that has to do with the occult?* * why are you people always quick to point fingers at people who dare to probe into the mysteries through the occult as satanists, then enjoy the benefits of their discoveries with the other hand? These is really sad. * * speak for yourself, don't speak for me. The scales in your eyes have not off, for you to see clearly*
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 10:28pm On Nov 19, 2018
Anas09:




*What you do understand by Christian maturity? And how can this knowledge be misused?


I will explain based on the Christian religious concept and be very brief.

Christian maturity is a process that begins when a person accepts Jesus Christ as Savior. He or she is
born again of the Holy Spirit and then chooses to live "in Christ."

Therefore, in order for Christian maturity to develop in your life, you must make a choice to learn God's
Word, allow God to renew your mind, and then be obedient to what you learn. Romans 12:1-2 says,
"Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God - this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of
this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve
what God's will is - his good, pleasing and perfect will."


How they misuse these knowledge? I will name but one. Which is ;

The Tongue : The control of the tongue is the greatest mark of Christian maturity, not only Christian maturity but spiritual maturity. But many Christians use their tongue to defile the very knowledge they were taught, by using it for their own gain or to hurt others.

Ponder on the following :

* James 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

James 3:9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

3:10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be

3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 9:50pm On Nov 19, 2018
Anas09:


More questions.
*What kind of Pastors are we talking about here? Pls dont mention their names, but pls do tell which aspect of Christianity they practices.

*Are they Catholic?
*Orthodox?
*Coptic?
*Evangelical?
* Jehovah's Witnesses?
* Christian Science = those who read palms, study the zodiac ete.
* Spiritualism/Spiritism = those who invoke Angels and sacrifice animals and carry out assignments and perform rituals.
* LDS?


Sorry i can't give you that information, for the sake of their members that might be reading these thread. I prefer to give respect to their various practices and keep it confidential.
Religion / Re: Occult Member (why Is The Public Afraid Of Them?) by ccarefulwind2(m): 9:41pm On Nov 19, 2018
Anas09:



I think we should at this point define terms.

* Is Jesus an Occult Grand Master?
*If yes pls give reasons why you believe so.

If He is, then He most definitely behind the Occult you want us to discuss here.

* If He is, why then did you assert that many people do not want to study Occult when the Word of God is taught at every turn openly?

* If He is, why do we Christians go out for Evangelism openly (Not in secret) and want to convert the world?

* Point out His Occultic practices from His Word.

*Is there anything like Occultic Christianity?
* If the answer to above questions is Yes, pls point out their activities out.

If Jesus is not behind Occultism, who is?

If Satan is behind Occult, can you attribute Illumination which is Light, both of sight and mind to him? As in, is Lucifer the Master of light now?

* What is illumination according to you?

* Are different kinds of lights?

Do you know why the Occult hide in secrets?


I wont answer that, but i will point you to one of the directions, that will tell you the answers and explain them better.

Kindly read the Mystical Life of Jesus Christ by Harvey Spencer Lewis.

When you read the book, then we can discuss more on it.

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