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[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=792726.msg9454765#msg9454765 date=1320095751]Though he is correct, it will create business opportunities. For the town (College Park, Maryland?) that will get the money that Imo State is spending on these students ![]() But business/investment opportunities for Imo? Not likely[/quote]The focus of the gov is on the long run impart of this program and not the ''foreign investor'' preaching we are reading on this forum. |
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=792726.msg9454735#msg9454735 date=1320095379]So basically a study abroad program for a semester? These claims of employment opportunities, investment opportunities are obviously a sham, studying abroad for a term isn't going to do any of that. Eh, I don't think that this is a particularly good use of resources. However, if Imo State folk are happy with this, then no wahala. Me personally though, I'd try to use my money more judiciously and intelligently. Sending kids to study abroad presumably is not at the top of the priority list for Imo State. Hell, spending the money on improving primary schools, secondary schools, or even the state universities would probably be more useful.[/quote]Bros, this same man released N2b+ each for the renovation of all primary and secondary schools in the state. Imo state university is his next priority. A semester spent in a good university abroad is better than 4 yrs spent in any Nigerian university. |
micawber:If you had benefited from this program would you have come here to oppose it? Because Okorocha did not share the money with some godforsaken rent seekers makes the program a bad idea. I strongly commend okorocha's gesture to these students and i hope it's sustained. |
micawber:And so? Name any country in the world where education is free. |
How is sending students on exchange program a waste of resources? How many of you work with the Imo state govt to know how the fund for this program was raised? Kobojunkie:So, you want evidence? From who exactly? From an innocent student who came in here to enlighten you on the criteria for the selection based on his experience and transparency of the program or do you want it from Okorocha himself? If you want evidence why not go to the imo state govt house and request for official documents to that effect or have you forgotten the FOI bill? |
aribisala0:Mere standing at the bus stop in a typical JAMB exam day will give you a clearer picture of the situation. Also, taking a day visit to any of Nigerian universities, including those that their graduates come here to brag, will further expose the sorry-state of our institutions of higher learning. For a top govt official to stand on the podium and state what is obvious without convincing his colleagues, whom he dines and wines with everyday, to do the right thing is pathetic. The most disturbing part is you expecting us to debate something that is banal. |
aribisala0:What exactly do we need to debate here? Are we not familiar with these things? What we need is a govt that has the capacity to say enough of this nonsense.Do we need further explanations to understand that Nigeria runs the most ineffective, inefficient and corrupt system on earth? Do we need to be ''graduates'' to even debate these issues? |
And we should clap for him? Is he not part of the system and generation that have subjugated Nigerians for long? Of what use is his stay at the cbn for over 2 yrs now? What we get is his constant uproar and vituperation. He has only stated what even a village farmer knows. Whether sanusi likes it or not he is part and parcel of the system that have subjected Nigerians to immense hardship and deprivation. |
Yeah, i think the idea of establishing an IT oriented institution is a good idea. Something like''Nigerian/African Institute of Technology (NIT/AIT)'' with courses in both IT and Mgt sciences. But i wouldn't advise it be run like the likes of Aptech and NIIT. There a lot of them already. It has to be a full research, teaching and learning institute. |
I may advise you consider starting with a business school with affiliate programs with leading business schools in the world. If you need information on setting up a primary or secondary i think the best place to go is the ministry of education and the local govt education board. In the case of university NUC (National Universities Commission) is the best place to visit. I think their headoffice is in Abuja. Also, the location of your school means a lot. So, you have to consider location, staffing etc. I think one of the requirements of running/establishing a university is that the proprietor MUST have a degree/PGD in education or experience in running a school. So, i may advise you consider getting a PGDE before applying for licence. This will not only help you in getting the licence but also in running the institution effective. Remember, obtaining a licence to run a university involves/requires a lot of politics and or connection. So, you may need a senator, minister, house of reps etc to clear the road for you. It's a good idea you have there, i also share similar vision. |
Timi1990:What do you want to do with the MBA? Work, what type? |
^^^^^^^^^ Exactly No need playing holier than thou here |
Freiburger:After that what happens next? Throw the money away? OP, stop chasing shadow. You already know that your bros is into yahoo yahoo which you tried previously to caution him severally. If you can't advise him on how to spend the money wisely, then free him. He is 18 and should be able to face his music. faliowino:Who told you? That is just a myth. The money may still not finish and he ends up making more. |
I need his American friend's phone number ![]() I am more than 18 and i don't have a family ![]() America is truly the land of dreams |
bravedude:My bro, i am not here to assess your writing skills. I only did that to prove to you that no one is perfect or at best without shortcomings. All of us have our own limitations. My apologies for that. My papa no get money to send me to Harvard o! Na state university in 9ja me go. Hahaha |
bravedude:That's very nice of you. I didn't mean to insult you either. I was only infuriated by your hasty generalisation. There are many intelligent people on earth, both in Absu and Unilag. So, saying that the 2nd class upper grad of unilag is better than a 1st class grad of Absu is not ideal. But, if you say that a 3rd class grad of Harvard is better than a first class grad of Absu, then that may be acceptable because over the years graduates of Harvard have shown and demonstrated that they are highly knowledgeable and well trained. This is evident in the quantum of research, innovations and inventions from this institution alone. Also, the amount of research materials found in Harvard or an average university in the west cannot be found in all Nigerian universities put together. This cannot be said of Unilag, OAU, UI etc where an average graduate still struggles to pass job aptitude tests and interviews and many of their graduates end up as bank tellers and call centre representatives. Absu graduates also compete favourably with their Unilag counterparts in the job market. I graduated from a state university, but i can tell you that majority of my classmates are in top multinationals, leading banks and accounting firms, and others are studying in top universities in the west for their postgrad. This doesn't mean, however, that they are better than Unilag grads. There are also many Unilag grads who are doing similar things or even better. It, in most cases, depends on individual motivations, finance,connection and maybe luck. So many factors influence people's choice of institution other than passing jamb and aptitude test. Finance, proximity to home, peer and parental influence, ethnicity, connection, program of study, and so many other factors tend to determine where one studies. In my case it was both proximity to home and parental influence, not jamb or waec. I must add that we are on NL to share information and views on issues and NOT to demonstrate how intelligent we are or insult others. Nairaland is a platform for most Nigerian youth, mainly in their 20s and 30s. So, don't feel offended by the responses you got from your supposed opinion. Peace |
The difference, i think, is in the nature of institution and the content of the program. One is university of technology and awards a B.tech with emphasis on the use, development and application of technology. The other places less emphasis on technology and greater emphasis on theory. B.tech is suitable for those who want to work in a technology oriented industry or field. B.Sc is suitable for those who want to get into lecturing or research positions. However, the 5-4 yrs doesn't really matter in the industry.No body asks you how long your program was in the labour market, except if you had an extra yr. I am yet to understand the reason for the discrepancy in years. |
1-6-3-3-4 Everybody wants his/her name immortalised. Mrs. Minister wants to be remembered for introducing this nonsense. Why is it that our professors are not innovative? Copy and paste everywhere. |
bravedude:That wasn't an opinion, it was an insult. You don't make such denigrating comments in a public forum like this. Also, there is no evidence to support your claim that a 2.1 grad of Unilag is better than a first class grad of Absu. desertboom:Exactly my bro. How far na? |
bravedude:Okay. This thread is not for teenagers. Visit the jokes section |
bravedude:And this is supposed to be a graduate or undergraduate ![]() |
Gift4all:I wonder o. |
bravedude:It's entitled ![]() |
desertboom Well, I am unperturbed by such primitive, unsubstantiated and baseless claims. There is absolutely no basis to assume that graduates of federal universities are, by any chance, better than their state or private universities counterparts. All Nigerian universities still suffer similar problems; poor learning environment, unmotivated and quack lecturers, constant strike actions, lack of access to modern learning facilities, poor funding and unnecessary government interference, prostitution, cultism, laziness, exam malpractice, and host of other unprintable, unmentionable and unfathomable issues So, for a product of such defective system to assume he is better than his counterpart from another university is ridiculous. What we have in Nigeria are few individuals who managed, albeit the inherent deficiencies, to graduate as ''sound'' graduates from these institutions. Very few i must repeat. In a graduating class of maybe 100, you can only find 20-30 people who can reasonably be termed graduates. Others are either half baked or unbaked.That is the situation among all universities in Nigeria. And the few that graduated as best tend to forget all what they learnt in school 2-5 years after graduation. The only evidence of their being graduates is in their use of high sounding English words or maybe better grammar. Every other thing seems to be forgotten. So, classifying or in worst cases generalising that graduates of federal universities are better than their counterparts in other universities is fallacious. I am not saying graduates of federal universities are not good, but every university tend to produce few sound graduates every year. Also, most federal universities have had much gestation periods and their graduates are found in almost all organisations, compared to their state and private universities counterparts which are of recent creation. This tend to help advance the ''i better pass you'' mentality as displayed by most federal uni graduates. The best thing, therefore, is to treat people as individuals rather than as groups. Afterall, we all wrote the same jamb, waec and maybe aptitude test ![]() |
desertboom:His use of English language has exposed his deficient intellectual capabilities even more. |
bravedude:So, you are among the graduates of ''federal'' university? A graduate making unsubstantiated statements and unapologetic grammatical blunders . Nigerian educational system is really a mess. Nonsense! |
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passyjango:Agreeable. However, Jarus also made a good observation, taking into consideration the location of the school. Universities in the heart of cities have a tendency to expose the students to lives beyond the university environment. This, to an extent, helps in molding the student's personalities and worldview which is a vital component of university education. |
Jarus Syenite I quite agree with you guys. [quote author=olajide_07 link=topic=788033.msg9414949#msg9414949 date=1319545779]yes it does in fact it plays one of the most important roles in respect of the grade a first class from abia state university and a second class upper from university of lagos can they be compared with the various penalties put before you can assess admission into these schools no just saying[/quote]And who is this? How is a 2nd class upper grad from Unilag better than a 1st class grad from Absu? Explain! Please, remember to use full stop and comma when next you write so that meaning is not distorted. |
[quote author=Elhef link=topic=787272.msg9414251#msg9414251 date=1319539331][/quote]So, after all this grammar you recommended economics? The person doesn't want a course that requires mathematics, so economics may not be a good option for him--he will be frustrated at best. He can consider courses in philosophy, sociology, history and in't studies or maybe mass communication. Political science is also another good option. The depth of mathematics in pol sc. is not comparable to that of economics. You need a robust understanding of mathematics to succeed in any economics program. However, the best thing is to avoid the maths completely, no matter how little. Mass comm, philosophy, sociology and maybe history and in't studies will be okay. |
Imo State Governor, Rochas Okorocha, will today, sign a new minimum wage of N20,000 with the organised Labour in the state at the state secretariat along Portharcourt Road, Owerri. In a statement by the Special Assistant, Media (Print) to Governor Okorocha, Ebere Uzoukwa yesterday said the gesture to the state workers represented a substantial increase in the N18,000 national minimum wage approved by the Federal Government. According to him, it also demonstrated Governor Okorocha’s commitment to the upliftment of the welfare of workers and to further motivate them towards living up to expectation in their responsibility to ensure that government policies and programmes were effectively implemented. Okorocha who had earlier expressed that N18,000 minimum wage approved by the Federal Government was grossly inadequate to be regarded as living wage, promised to pay above the national minimum wage in Imo State. Also, the recent report released by the Nigerian Governors Forum (NGF) rated Imo among 15 healthy states in Nigeria that could pay minimum wage and embark on capital projects owing to the prudent financial management policy of Governor Okorocha. Apart from the N20,000 minimum wage, Governor Okorocha had equally approved the construction of 15km of roads in each of the 27 LGAs, construction of European standard schools in each of the 305 INEC wards in the state as well as other ongoing capital projects initiated by his administration. http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/oct/24/national-24-10-2011-013.html
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