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PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 10:18pm On Oct 31, 2011
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=792726.msg9454765#msg9454765 date=1320095751]Though he is correct, it will create business opportunities.

For the town (College Park, Maryland?) that will get the money that Imo State is spending on these students grin

But business/investment opportunities for Imo? Not likely[/quote]The focus of the gov is on the long run impart of this program and not the ''foreign investor'' preaching we are reading on this forum.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 10:15pm On Oct 31, 2011
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=792726.msg9454735#msg9454735 date=1320095379]So basically a study abroad program for a semester?

These claims of employment opportunities, investment opportunities are obviously a sham, studying abroad for a term isn't going to do any of that.

Eh, I don't think that this is a particularly good use of resources. However, if Imo State folk are happy with this, then no wahala.

Me personally though, I'd try to use my money more judiciously and intelligently.

Sending kids to study abroad presumably is not at the top of the priority list for Imo State.

Hell, spending the money on improving primary schools, secondary schools, or even the state universities would probably be more useful.[/quote]Bros, this same man released N2b+ each for the renovation of all primary and secondary schools in the state. Imo state university is his next priority. A semester spent in a good university abroad is better than 4 yrs spent in any Nigerian university.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 10:05pm On Oct 31, 2011
micawber:
Of course you knew because you have been employed to stay online and pass fake info.
Not innocent, hired e-thug, be specific.
Was the bill made for Imo international exchange programme?
If you had benefited from this program would you have come here to oppose it? Because Okorocha did not share the money with some godforsaken rent seekers makes the program a bad idea.

I strongly commend okorocha's gesture to these students and i hope it's sustained.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 9:55pm On Oct 31, 2011
micawber:
Do you know the number of youths (students) in Imo state? Parents strive to pay school fees to sustain students in school here in Imo, and Rochas gave out a whole lot of about N70,000,000.00 (if well converted) to sponsor foreign trip for just 60 students (politicians' children).

Grow up! and grow wise!! before you turn to a f.o.o.l
And so? Name any country in the world where education is free.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 9:51pm On Oct 31, 2011
How is sending students on exchange program a waste of resources?  How many of you work with the Imo state govt to know how the fund for this program was raised?

Kobojunkie:
Again .  . . .

You have made some really strong claims on this issue. Now, think and figure out how you convince people who do not have any bleeping idea who you are, can be convinced that you are for real.

If someone comes into a room and tells you that if you stayed 24 more hours in that particular room, you would get 1 million naira, I know you, as a human being with a living brain, you would question that persons claims and even go as far as to request evidence of any sort to ascertain that claims made are true.

So far most other posters have only made frivolous claims of this scheme. You on the other hand caught my interest as you proceeded to make some definitely claims, in some way expecting us to take you more seriously than the many others on here. You have my attention--- feel free to convince us that you are not just a misguided youth sitting in front of a computer somewhere, having a field day lying to other internet users. grin

PS. How did you help prospective students gain admission into IMSU? You be one of those people wey dey do runs??  undecided undecided
So, you want evidence? From who exactly? From an innocent student who came in here to enlighten you on the criteria for the selection based on his experience and transparency of the program or do you want it from Okorocha himself? If you want evidence why not go to the imo state govt house and request for official documents to that effect or have you forgotten the FOI bill?
BusinessRe: Why Nigeria May Remain Underdeveloped - Sanusi by chamber2(m): 6:46pm On Oct 30, 2011
aribisala0:
someone here has told us that out of x university applicants y gain admission.
it would be useful to give some opinion/analysis to that piece of data e.g is that good bad or excellent

based  on ,

it really is painful the quantum of half baked clowns on the prowl who actually consider themselves smart and educated.



what is the benefit to Nigeria for every million naira invested in university education
is university education, particularly the variety found in nigeria of any real benefit to society and does it represent value for money to the goverment
how many should get it and who should pay??
Mere standing at the bus stop in a typical JAMB exam day will give you a clearer picture of the situation. Also, taking a day visit to any of Nigerian universities, including those that their graduates come here to brag, will further expose the sorry-state of our institutions of higher learning.

For a top govt official to stand on the podium and state what is obvious without convincing his colleagues, whom he dines and wines with everyday, to do the right thing is pathetic. The most disturbing part is you expecting us to debate something that is banal.
BusinessRe: Why Nigeria May Remain Underdeveloped - Sanusi by chamber2(m): 6:30pm On Oct 30, 2011
aribisala0:
not a small number of these university " graduates" are on display here.
very few ever acquire the capacity for anything related to thinking or debate without polemic.


in summary sanusi has
criticized

the current structure of our federating units based on viabilty
the current regime where  > 70 % of government revenue is spent on salaries and overheads
the wisdom of establishing new universities(by government) when those in existence are poorly funded
that is the nub,the  koko
hopefully we can consider these issues objectively without visceral reactions
What exactly do we need to debate here? Are we not familiar with these things? What we need is a govt that has the capacity to say enough of this nonsense.Do we need further explanations to understand that Nigeria runs the most ineffective, inefficient and corrupt system on earth? Do we need to be ''graduates'' to even debate these issues?
BusinessRe: Why Nigeria May Remain Underdeveloped - Sanusi by chamber2(m): 4:49pm On Oct 30, 2011
And we should clap for him? Is he not part of the system and generation that have subjugated Nigerians for long?

Of what use is his stay at the cbn for over 2 yrs now? What we get is his constant uproar and vituperation.

He has only stated what even a village farmer knows.

Whether sanusi likes it or not he is part and parcel of the system that have subjected Nigerians to immense hardship and deprivation.
BusinessRe: What Does It Take To Setup A World Class Educational Institution In Nigeria? by chamber2(m): 6:58pm On Oct 29, 2011
Yeah, i think the idea of establishing an IT oriented institution is a good idea. Something like''Nigerian/African Institute of Technology (NIT/AIT)'' with courses in both IT and Mgt sciences.

But i wouldn't advise it be run like the likes of Aptech and NIIT. There a lot of them already. It has to be a full research, teaching and learning institute.
BusinessRe: What Does It Take To Setup A World Class Educational Institution In Nigeria? by chamber2(m): 3:46am On Oct 29, 2011
I may advise you consider starting with a business school with affiliate programs with leading business schools in the world.

If you need information on setting up a primary or secondary i think the best place to go is the ministry of education and the local govt education board.

In the case of university NUC (National Universities Commission) is the best place to visit. I think their headoffice is in Abuja.

Also, the location of your school means a lot. So, you have to consider location, staffing etc.

I think one of the requirements of running/establishing a university is that the proprietor MUST have a degree/PGD in education or experience in running a school. So, i may advise you consider getting a PGDE before applying for licence. This will not only help you in getting the licence but also in running the institution effective.

Remember, obtaining a licence to run a university involves/requires a lot of politics and or connection. So, you may need a senator, minister, house of reps etc to clear the road for you.

It's a good idea you have there, i also share similar vision.
EducationRe: MBA Students: Let's Meet Here by chamber2(m): 4:22pm On Oct 28, 2011
Timi1990:
@All pls i need your help every one.
Am currently an undergraduate of Unilag, and i intend to take my Mba after graduating next year. But d little problem i have now is that, i dont have a good background in calculation and my course doesn't have any sort of calculation ( History). Pls can i still enroll for the Mba programme and what area can i specialize in ?
Thanks
What do you want to do with the MBA? Work, what type?
FamilyRe: Help! Mine Jobless 18 Years Old Brother Just Bought A Car Worth 5million Naira by chamber2(m): 11:24am On Oct 28, 2011
^^^^^^^^^

Exactly

No need playing holier than thou here
FamilyRe: Help! Mine Jobless 18 Years Old Brother Just Bought A Car Worth 5million Naira by chamber2(m): 11:18am On Oct 28, 2011
Freiburger:
Well the fact that he initially started lieing indicates a dead rat somewhere. but handling him over to the authorities will help neither him nor your parents.
Try to find a different approach to it through your parents, i guess you still have a good contact with them. good luck.
After that what happens next? Throw the money away?

OP, stop chasing shadow. You already know that your bros is into yahoo yahoo which you tried previously to caution him severally. If you can't advise him on how to spend the money wisely, then free him.


He is 18 and should be able to face his music.
faliowino:
freeman 191 you've just hit the nail on the head.poster the money will soon finish trust me on that one if its truly yahoo everybody will the land back on earth with a heavy crash, i really pity him because he may never b the same again experiencing such a trauma at an early age
Who told you? That is just a myth. The money may still not finish and he ends up making more.
FamilyRe: Help! Mine Jobless 18 Years Old Brother Just Bought A Car Worth 5million Naira by chamber2(m): 10:58am On Oct 28, 2011
I need his American friend's phone number grin

I am more than 18 and i don't have a family grin

America is truly the land of dreams
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 2:35am On Oct 27, 2011
bravedude:
Hahaha @chamber2 make i correct my spelling b4 u go say i no go school again,na quiet no be quite oh.I just see am now.All the same you are good with your writing,u be product of Harvard university?
My bro, i am not here to assess your writing skills. I only did that to prove to you that no one is perfect or at best without shortcomings. All of us have our own limitations. My apologies for that.

My papa no get money to send me to Harvard o! Na state university in 9ja me go. Hahaha
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 2:01am On Oct 27, 2011
bravedude:
@chamber2 and desertboom (m),sorry for the insult oh,i no b rude boy. desertboom (m),you sound quite and polite,love that.I wish say i fit meet yo for PH if i visit 9ja dis christmas.All d best man.
That's very nice of you. I didn't mean to insult you either. I was only infuriated by your hasty generalisation. There are many intelligent people on earth, both in Absu and Unilag. So, saying that the 2nd class upper grad of unilag is better than a 1st class grad of Absu is not ideal.

But, if you say that a 3rd class grad of Harvard is better than a first class grad of Absu, then that may be acceptable because over the years graduates of Harvard have shown and demonstrated that they are highly knowledgeable and well trained. This is evident in the quantum of research, innovations and inventions from this institution alone. Also, the amount of research materials found in Harvard or an average university in the west cannot be found in all Nigerian universities put together.

This cannot be said of Unilag, OAU, UI etc where an average graduate still struggles to pass job aptitude tests and interviews and many of their graduates end up as bank tellers and call centre representatives. Absu graduates also compete favourably with their Unilag counterparts in the job market. I graduated from a state university, but i can tell you that majority of my classmates are in top multinationals, leading banks and accounting firms, and others are studying in top universities in the west for their postgrad. This doesn't mean, however, that they are better than Unilag grads. There are also many Unilag grads who are doing similar things or even better. It, in most cases, depends on individual motivations, finance,connection and maybe luck.

So many factors influence people's choice of institution other than passing jamb and aptitude test. Finance, proximity to home, peer and parental influence, ethnicity, connection, program of study, and so many other factors tend to determine where one studies. In my case it was both proximity to home and parental influence, not jamb or waec.

I must add that we are on NL to share information and views on issues and NOT to demonstrate how intelligent we are or insult others. Nairaland is a platform for most Nigerian youth, mainly in their 20s and 30s. So, don't feel offended by the responses you got from your supposed opinion.

Peace
EducationRe: B.sc Vs B.tech by chamber2(m): 12:44am On Oct 27, 2011
The difference, i think, is in the nature of institution and the content of the program.
One is university of technology and awards a B.tech with emphasis on the use, development and application of technology. The other places less emphasis on technology and greater emphasis on theory.

B.tech is suitable for those who want to work in a technology oriented industry or field. B.Sc is suitable for those who want to get into lecturing or research positions.

However, the 5-4 yrs doesn't really matter in the industry.No body asks you how long your program was in the labour market, except if you had an extra yr. I am yet to understand the reason for the discrepancy in years.
EducationRe: Nigeria Adopts - 1 6 3 3 4 Education System by chamber2(m): 2:49pm On Oct 26, 2011
1-6-3-3-4

Everybody wants his/her name immortalised.

Mrs. Minister wants to be remembered for introducing this nonsense.

Why is it that our professors are not innovative? Copy and paste everywhere.
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 1:32pm On Oct 26, 2011
bravedude:
desertboom (m)

@bravedude. . . Hahaha. . . I laugh you because you didn't sound any different from a motor park-tout. You just tagged chamber and I arrogance, fool and all sort of names just to remain relevant in this thread. The character you've exhibited above is a classical case of the "pot calling the kettle black". Next time don't blow your trumpet of Uni-lag 2:1 being better than 1:1 or First class of ABSU when almost all Nigeria institutions suffer the same situation highlighted by chamber2 day-in-day-out.


You and i know everyone is entitled to his opinion.Why did you start by calling me names,talk to chamber2 (m) for trying to make a fool of him self.Do grammar give money?Nonsense!!
That wasn't an opinion, it was an insult. You don't make such denigrating comments in a public forum like this. Also, there is no evidence to support your claim that a 2.1 grad of Unilag is better than a first class grad of Absu.


desertboom:
@chamber2. . . Please, lets leave this little kid alone. He doesn't understand much, he's too fragile for you. @IITA Ib. I like your story and I also share your idea.
Exactly my bro.

How far na?
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 12:49pm On Oct 26, 2011
bravedude:
chamber2 (m)

It's entitled   


Why didn't you give me the go ahead to print out your grammar?You are a fool.Kiss my Bottom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And this is supposed to be a graduate or undergraduate Huh


How is it your business if I'm a graduate or undergraduate?The issue here is,I'm young and well to do dude.How old are you?bleep u!!!!!!!!
Okay. This thread is not for teenagers. Visit the jokes section
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 12:37pm On Oct 26, 2011
bravedude:
chamber2 (m)

It's entitled


Why didn't you give me the go ahead to print out your grammar?You are a fool.Kiss my Bottom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And this is supposed to be a graduate or undergraduate huh
CareerRe: B.sc Ed Graduates And A B.sc Graduate. by chamber2(m): 12:35pm On Oct 26, 2011
Gift4all:
Were you not satisfied with the advice given to you in your earlier post?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=735023.msg8933090#msg8933090[url][/url]
I wonder o.
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 12:16pm On Oct 26, 2011
bravedude:
chamber2 (m)

So, you are among the graduates of  ''federal'' university?

A graduate making unsubstantiated statements and unapologetic grammatical blunders . Nigerian educational system is really a mess.

Nonsense!


You think you are good with your grammar,give me the go ahead to print out and present to my Eng lecturer,you will know how arrogant you are.You are a fool chamber2 (m)Don't  you think I'm entitle to my opinion.For your info,i am not among the graduates from federal university.Nonsense.


desertboom (m)
I think you are a fool too,but chamber2 (m) is a bigger fool.Idiots.
It's entitled  grin
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 9:39am On Oct 26, 2011
desertboom

Well, I am unperturbed by such primitive, unsubstantiated and baseless claims. There is absolutely no basis to assume that graduates of federal universities are, by any chance, better than their state or private universities counterparts. All Nigerian universities still suffer similar problems; poor learning environment, unmotivated and quack lecturers, constant strike actions, lack of access to modern learning facilities, poor funding and unnecessary government interference, prostitution, cultism, laziness, exam malpractice, and host of other unprintable, unmentionable and unfathomable issues shocked

So, for a product of such defective system to assume he is better than his counterpart from another university is ridiculous. What we have in Nigeria are few individuals who managed, albeit the inherent deficiencies, to  graduate as ''sound'' graduates from these institutions. Very few i must repeat.

In a graduating class of maybe 100, you can only find 20-30 people who can reasonably be termed graduates. Others are either half baked or unbaked.That is the situation among all universities in Nigeria. And the few that graduated as best tend to forget all what they learnt in school 2-5 years after graduation. The only evidence of their being graduates is in their use of high sounding English words or maybe better grammar. Every other thing seems to be forgotten.

So, classifying or in worst cases generalising that graduates of federal universities are better than their counterparts in other universities is fallacious. I am not saying graduates of federal universities are not good, but every university tend to produce few sound graduates every year. Also, most federal universities have had much gestation periods and their graduates are found in almost all organisations, compared to their state and private universities counterparts which are of recent creation. This tend to help advance the ''i better pass you'' mentality as displayed by most federal uni graduates.

The best thing, therefore, is to treat people as individuals rather than as groups. Afterall, we all wrote the same jamb, waec and maybe aptitude test grin
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 8:34am On Oct 26, 2011
desertboom:
Arrant nonsense. . . bias, prejudice and quick generalization that has held Nigera backward over the years. How can a sane fellow come on here to make such submission that a second class upper from Uni-Lag is much better than a First class of ABSU. Where did you get your statistics? Please, go and tell the cows in the bush for we're no fools here
His use of English language has exposed his deficient intellectual capabilities even more.
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 7:22am On Oct 26, 2011
bravedude:
Well to me,i think those first generation universities has upper hands in the labour market.It's clearly written that 1st class degree from a state universities can't be compare to 2nd class upper from a federal university e.g UNBEN,UNILAG,ife OAU, UI.Well a thread said it all,2nd class degree from UNilag is more better than 1st class degree from ABSU.Please don't even think of arguing,i school close there and i know what their level of education is like.Let forget about self personality and ability,we just have to face reality.
So, you are among the graduates of  ''federal'' university?

A graduate making unsubstantiated statements and unapologetic grammatical blunders . Nigerian educational system is really a mess.

Nonsense!
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 3:18pm On Oct 25, 2011
martin123:
why not tell him the truthhuh? i presently work in a company where the university matters alot.Apart from graduates from abroad, my company only accept a minimum of second class upper from UNIBEN and OAU.

CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 2:29pm On Oct 25, 2011
afam4eva:
You have a point. That's why UNILAG has the largest population runs girls in Nigeria.
grin grin
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 2:21pm On Oct 25, 2011
passyjango:
Not at all, your university education is what you make of it. University education is about your ability to use the research tools, intellect, and facilities available to you like the library and internet to improve yourself and prepare yourself for future opportunities.

@Jarus there are people in Unilag just making up the numbers. Attending a particular school will not simply expose you, you have to take advantage of the opportunities the university provides.
Agreeable. However, Jarus also made a good observation, taking into consideration the location of the school. Universities in the heart of cities have a tendency to expose the students to lives beyond the university environment. This, to an extent, helps in molding the student's personalities and worldview which is a vital component of university education.
CareerRe: Would The University You Attend Determine Job Opportunities? by chamber2(m): 2:04pm On Oct 25, 2011
Jarus
Syenite


I quite agree with you guys.

[quote author=olajide_07 link=topic=788033.msg9414949#msg9414949 date=1319545779]yes it does in fact it plays one of the most important roles in respect of the grade a first class from abia state university and a second class upper from university of lagos can they be compared with the various penalties put before you can assess admission into these schools no just saying[/quote]And who is this? How is a 2nd class upper grad from Unilag better than a 1st class grad from Absu? Explain!

Please, remember to use full stop and comma when next you write so that meaning is not distorted.
EducationRe: Easiest Course To Read In University by chamber2(m): 12:03pm On Oct 25, 2011
[quote author=Elhef link=topic=787272.msg9414251#msg9414251 date=1319539331][/quote]So, after all this grammar you recommended economics? The person doesn't want a course that requires mathematics, so economics may not be a good option for him--he will be frustrated at best.

He can consider courses in philosophy, sociology, history and in't studies or maybe mass communication.

Political science is also another good option. The depth of mathematics in pol sc. is not comparable to that of economics. You need a robust understanding of mathematics to succeed in any economics program.

However, the best thing is to avoid the maths completely, no matter how little. Mass comm, philosophy, sociology and maybe history and in't studies will be okay.
PoliticsOkorocha Signs N20,000 Minimum Wage For Imo Workers by chamber2(op): 8:20am On Oct 24, 2011
Imo State Governor, Rochas Okorocha, will today, sign a new minimum wage of N20,000 with the organised Labour in the state at the state secretariat along Portharcourt Road, Owerri.

In a statement by the Special Assistant, Media (Print) to Governor Okorocha, Ebere Uzoukwa yesterday said the gesture to the state workers represented a substantial increase in the N18,000 national minimum wage approved by the Federal Government.

According to him, it also demonstrated Governor Okorocha’s commitment to the upliftment of the welfare of workers and to further motivate them towards living up to expectation in their responsibility to ensure that government policies and programmes were effectively implemented.

Okorocha who had earlier expressed that N18,000 minimum wage approved by the Federal Government was grossly inadequate to be regarded as living wage, promised to pay above the national minimum wage in Imo State.
Also, the recent report released by the Nigerian Governors Forum (NGF) rated Imo among 15 healthy states in Nigeria that could pay minimum wage and embark on capital projects owing to the prudent financial management policy of Governor Okorocha.

Apart from the N20,000 minimum wage, Governor Okorocha had equally approved the construction of 15km of roads in each of the 27 LGAs, construction of European standard schools in each of the 305 INEC wards in the state as well as other ongoing capital projects initiated by his administration.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/oct/24/national-24-10-2011-013.html

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