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EducationRe: The Scam Center Called Madonna University In Pictures by chamber2(m): 7:51am On Nov 18, 2011
Real Scam

Scam!!!

Scam!!!
PoliticsRe: Fg’s 7% Growth Report Questioned by chamber2(m): 4:08pm On Nov 17, 2011
^^^^

Exactly. Just surprised at the level of determination shown by you to demonstrate that the stat was cooked up.

However, what recent event(s) do we have now to support your claim that the stat was unrealistic?

Though, i share your sentiment on this issue
PoliticsRe: Fg’s 7% Growth Report Questioned by chamber2(m): 3:31pm On Nov 17, 2011
Kobojunkie

why u wan resurrect this thread na huh huh huh
EducationRe: 62 Graduates Bag First Class In UNIBEN by chamber2(m): 3:29pm On Nov 17, 2011
All this talk about it's harder to make a first class in my school is rather unfortunate. First class in any institution requires a certain level of hard work and determination.
EducationRe: 62 Graduates Bag First Class In UNIBEN by chamber2(m): 1:24pm On Nov 17, 2011
oyb:
you know the principle of ivy league universities?

in nigeria the old federal schools are the closest we have to that

the state unis are somewhere below what are community colleges in the us

i wonder if with all this spirited defence of state unis, you'd send a ward to one of them if you had the choice of a federal institution
My point is, not everybody who attends state uni is dumb or unable to gain admission into the federal uni.Also, not everybody who attends a federal uni is smart. If that is the case, making generalisation on this issue will be defeatist.In addition, I can only describe the 9ja fed unis as being our own ivy league unis based on the quality of their research output, graduate employ-ability, inventions, contribution to community service etc. These are qualities ivy league unis are known for and not this dilly-willy fed universities. A third class graduate of an ivy league uni is capable of doing what a first class or even lecturers of most fed unis can only dream of.

Unfortunately, Nigerian universities in general have no record of what their students do after graduation. That would have, to an extent, given a tip of the relative level of smartness amongst each category. Therefore, it will be hard to determine who among federal and state uni grads is smart. After all, both graduates of the two unis struggle in the same labour market, get similar type of job and are also affected by unemployment. Unlike in the US, where the Ivy league unis dominate certain industries and occupation.

I would send my child to a federal uni, not because it's better, but because it is relatively cheaper.
EducationRe: 62 Graduates Bag First Class In UNIBEN by chamber2(m): 12:32pm On Nov 17, 2011
meonbooty:
Very dumb and incoherent statement from the so called First-class from OAU.  Stick to what you know, reading substandard Nigerian newspapers in office and playing ping pong with your not-so-smart, but uber entitled OANDO colleagues.
What exactly do you want to gain by typing this, attention??


oyb:
add to the fact that to para quote dk on the private uni thread - most state unis are bottom of the barrel institutions for those who could not make it into federal universities. the number of smart people who got fked over by jamb in those institutions will be very small.
I am sure you didn't just type this, cos if someone like you would make such adulterated statement then something must be wrong somewhere. The fact remains, any body who worked very hard in the university is most likely to graduate with the grade he/she deserves- except with minor variations. Both federal and state uni graduates undergo the same or similar selection process, unlike the private uni which is an all comers affair. So, stating that those who went to federal unis (by the reason of their connection or ability) are smarter is really very unfortunate.

People make university choices based on so many factors-proximity to home, parental and peer influence, ethnicity, course of study etc. So, if we may go by your reasoning, the practice and principle of catchment areas by federal unis means that majority of their students are dumb and thereby rely on catchment to gain admission. A case where someone from Osun state will go to Ife, Ilorin- unilorin, Oyo-UI etc

I think one of the reasons why most state universities tend to produce very low number of first class is lack of motivation, both from the lecturers, environment and maybe their fellow students. An average federal uni will have top people in politics and business visiting once in a while to give talks and thereby motivate students. These are some of the things that state uni students are lacking. Given the same condition, state universities will do as well as federal unis.
CareerRe: B.sc In Mathematics by chamber2(m): 3:17pm On Nov 16, 2011
Very insightful, tanimola22

Actually, maths is one of the best subjects any body can do in school. Some people say it's the easiest shocked It is gives one the ability to reason logically and analytically due to its systematic process of problem solving. However, i will advise against studying mathematics as a single subject especially at the postgrad level. The beauty of maths is better appreciated when combined with other disciplines/fields. This is because maths seems to be a tool for proper understanding and application of other fields of study.

Just as tanimola22 noted, it will be of high value if you could combine your knowledge of maths with courses like accounting, economics, computer sci or maybe finance. In this way you will be able to apply your knowledge of maths in solving everyday practical problems. Being in 200 level i will suggest, if you have the resources and interest, that you develop some programing or accounting skills. Leveraging on your maths skills you will do well in any of these fields.

Yours sincerely has never been a maths person (even though i studied economics at undergrad),maybe due to the nature of teachers i met during my pry and secondary school days. The much i can get in maths is a B, but not below a C. Calculus has come to be my favourite, maybe because i spent most of my time studying it during my undergrad econs courses. I am currently doing a postgrad in a different field. However, i am still working hard to improve on my maths skills before i commence my masters in econs later in my career. I wish i did more maths courses during my school days cos it actually affected my grade and performance during my university day. Even during job hunt, my average knowledge of general maths actually affected me to an extent. I could remember my first aptitude test at KPMG. I thought i would do very well at the test surprisingly, the maths aspect brought my marks down.

In a nutshell, maths is a very good course to study. Give it your best and you won't regret it. Just as tanimola22 noted, you can choose to work as a financial analyst, an actuary, programmer or even an economist. The opportunities are endless. Also, good grades matter these days. especially now that the labour market is experiencing a kind of glut. The least that is expected of you now is a 2.1. Don't join the group that will blame their lecturers or institution for their inability to graduate with a top grade or claim that those who made good grades bribed or slept with their lecturers. Use your resources and opportunities to your own advantage and do not blame any one later.
CareerRe: Should I Take Phd Positions Or Job Offers? Need Advice by chamber2(m): 10:26pm On Nov 12, 2011
Well, it's really a tough decision to make but considering that age is not on your side (30+) i would suggest you go for the job.

Just as tanimola22 said, you can always do the Ph.D. but getting a top job these days seems to be very challenging.
BusinessRe: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by chamber2(m): 2:00pm On Nov 11, 2011
Okija_juju

You sef get muscle grin

What is important is that you have made your point. Whatever any other person thinks of you is inconsequential.

If i am earning 500k a month as an entry level pay what the hell am i going to a godforsaken country to do huh

I always tell my pals that i will soon jump into the next flight home, and they ask, what are you coming home to do? My answer, to make money of course shocked

My broda, live your life the way you consider convenient!!!
NYSCRe: NYSC Bars Corpers From Borno And Yobe by chamber2(m): 10:25pm On Nov 10, 2011
Odunnu:
She can still go for the 3weeks orientation and fill forms that'l redeploy her to her choice location assuming you arent near
Yes, am not in the country right now. And my concern is her traveling to Jigawa for the redeployment stuff. I have checked online there seem not to be any direct flight to the state.
NYSCRe: NYSC Bars Corpers From Borno And Yobe by chamber2(m): 10:07pm On Nov 10, 2011
Odunnu:
Wasnt your wife married when she was filling the form? Where do you stay by the way?
Not really.
NYSCRe: NYSC Bars Corpers From Borno And Yobe by chamber2(m): 4:45pm On Nov 10, 2011
I am as confused as the FG now!

My wife has just been posted to JIGAWA state!!!

I don't know what to do.

Just confused
BusinessRe: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by chamber2(m): 7:13pm On Nov 09, 2011
Olalekan 0:
@Okija-juju, your right up makes no sense whatsoever!
Well, if it doesnt to you it may make lots of sense to others in similar situation. I found his story very inspiring

coogar:
okija-juju, why didn't you add to your skills whilst in canada?
if i know anyone with a bachelors degree working as a cleaner, i would slap him in the face - that is so wrong.

the knowledge base is already there. what's left is to combine that degree with a recognised certification and you would be balling.
if you have added ordinary project management certification or acca to your degree, you wouldn't be cleaning toilet bowls for oyibo people.
don't travel abroad thinking a ghanaian or nigerian certificate would get you somewhere - they don't recognise those. increase the skills and you are guaranteed a good job. contract jobs too paying as much as £300-£600 per day.
I think he has a masters degree too. He once said something like that.
CareerRe: Finance And Economics, Which Is Better? by chamber2(m): 9:29pm On Nov 06, 2011
violent

I couldn't have said it better.

Most of our problems stem from Inferiority complex.

abioila:
May be i should let you guys know the full story.i have already spent two years at LASU studying economics still on a first but a very weak one(4.56) with two more sessions to go i doubt i will be able to finish with a 1st coupled with the fact that our lecturers are raw saddist.imagine them swearing that no other student will make a first after a lady 'mistakenly' graduated with a first last session.i never wanted to go to LASU but unfortnately found my self there due to my mum's fear of me staying at home after sec. sch.i gained admission immediately after sec. sch even b4 my final exams.i wrote ume again in my first year but had LASU exams on the day of PUME.I decided to stay but the conditions of learning from wack lecturers,strikes,very poor infastructure to even 'touts' and married women as course mates(although there are few very good ones).i even hate the fact that when i tell people i attend LASU they ask my WHY or they change the look on their faces,lyk what are u doing there.All this factors frustrates me and i cant deny the fact that it has affected my performance as i no longer read 4 exams.i wrote UME again in my 2nd year,applied 4 econs at UNILAG,i even had the highest aggregate  score in the PUME but due to corruption i found my name on the finance supplementary list.i feel,if i go to UNILAG,make a first class,finish my ICAN in say 200lvl then add ACCA  or anoda prof course before i grad it will make up for the 2yrs av lost.btw am 18 and i intend doing my masters before i work.more comments pls.
Most of us faced similar or greater problems during our undergrad. Put yourself together and make good use of your opportunities. Violet has just corroborated my initial comment.
CareerRe: Finance And Economics, Which Is Better? by chamber2(m): 5:44pm On Nov 06, 2011
tanimola22

You were never misunderstood. I was only trying to make a few clarifications to enable @op make a more informed decision. I am not a graduate of any of the universities mentioned. You and i also arrived at the same conclusion, which is to study finance in Unilag.
CareerRe: Finance And Economics, Which Is Better? by chamber2(m): 1:33pm On Nov 06, 2011
tanimola22:
The main issue here is choosing between the two schools--UNILAG and LASU. I suspect your dad's judgement is based on things that happened in the 70`s and early 80´s. The truth of the matter is that, a Theology graduate from Harvard or Cambridge with just some experience  in Economics and/or Finance can become the Minister of Finance in a place like Nigeria, while an Economics graduate from a lower ranked school will not  even smell the position. Go and read Agangan's biography and you would understand what I am saying. 

Like I earlier said, you can still become an Economist if you so desire. All you need to do is pursue a master's degree and then a PhD after your first degree. You are not at any disadvantage if you did not study Economics at undergraduate level. Just make sure you try to take micro and macro courses offered in your school's Econs dept and you will be fine.

If you go and study Economics at LASU because you want to be versatile, then I tell you, you will not have any edge over someone that studied Finance or Accounting or Business admin at UNILAG. In fact, you may be at a disadvantage when it comes to getting a graduate job while in your final year. As i told you, UNILAG is a target institution for so many top companies in Nigeria.

In life, what you should be looking at is whether the advantages of doing something exceed the disadvantages. If the advantages exceed  the disadvantages, then a rational agent should key into such opportunity.

Respectfully tell your dad that studying Economics at undergraduate level does not necessarily make a person versatile. A person's versatility reposes on the person's ability to painstakingly improve, develop, nurture himself.

To conclude, I strongly advise you to jump at the offer from UNILAG. Don't forget, a myriad of your colleagues, mates and even egbons are looking for the same opportunity you have. Don't waste it OOOOOOOOOOOO.
Why it may be true that a Harvard graduate may have an edge in being nominated for the post of a minister of finance it is not completely the case in Nigeria.It may be the case in Europe or Us, but not necessarily the case in Nigeria. To become a minister in Nigeria requires more than attending an elite university. Your ethnicity, social contact, political affiliation, luck, bribery and so many other factors determine your being nominated for such positions.

In the current Nigerian political terrain, aside a few individuals, others never attended elite universities. People like Sanusi of the CBN never went to an elite institution. But his contacts, personality, brilliance and maybe ethnicity saw him through. I am not advocating that you shouldn't go to an elite institution. Try your best to attend one if you have the means, but if you don't, your future is not ruined in any way.

Also, if your main intention of going to Unilag is to enable ''top'' recruiters to employ you after graduation then your intention is a misplaced one. Again, getting a good job, especially in Nigeria, requires more than going to Unilag or any other institution. Your contact, luck and God plays an important role. Nigeria has not yet advanced to the elitist status of the UK and Us where the university one attends tend to affect or influence ones career prospects. Also, if you are so confident that you would graduate with a first class, together with your Ican, I am sure securing a good job would be least of your problems. The first class on its own will open lots of opportunities.

Let me quickly add that Lasu is not a bad school and Unilag is not a miracle centre either. The university is what you make of it. Use your time and resources at the university to your advantage. A Unilag grad has no noticeable edge over a Lasu grad, except maybe in their wide array of alumni network. So, if what you want is the glamour of being a Unilag grad then go for it. But if what you want is knowledge then any Nigerian University can suffice. What you need do is to develop yourself while in the university. Take a few professional programs alongside your degree program.

Economics and Finance complement each other. None is better than the other.Finance is an offshoot of mainstream Economics and therefore, provide opportunities for those who want to specialise. Having a finance degree, as pointed out already, does not restrict you from becoming an economist. What you need is a postgrad degree in Economics, maybe up to the Ph.D level. Economics truly gives a certain level of versatility at the undergrad level. A finance graduate may not be comfortable working with advanced mathematical models at the graduate level, while an economics grad can comfortably or averagely handle that. This is because undergraduate econs students take courses in mathematical economics twice or so in the course of their program. This cannot be said of a finance grad.

Yes, macro and Micro are the major components of an undergraduate econs program, but your ability to understand and apply the knowledge gained from such courses will require a good knowledge of Mathematics. That is why Engineering, maths, stat and physics graduates  do very well at graduate level Econs programs, even better than those who read econs. So, it may be a difficult journey moving from finance to econs, but not an impossible one. It all depends on your abilities.

In summary and without disregard to any institution, i will suggest or advise you go for the Finance program in Unilag since you are already an Ican student. The finance program will give you a better career blend than Econs. But while taking your finance courses try and take some courses in mathematical economics. I am sure Unilag may provide such flexibility.
EducationRe: Nigerian Students In Ghana Pay N155 Billion As Tuition Annually by chamber2(m): 3:04pm On Nov 03, 2011
Do you still believe in university ranking, especially in Africa?
EducationRe: Nigerian Students In Ghana Pay N155 Billion As Tuition Annually by chamber2(m): 3:03pm On Nov 03, 2011
OvieE:
My friend, not vexooooooooo. But how where you able to secure admission into university with this your village grammars. Men, I thought I was worst in writing but this is cracking my head off. My advice is that you need to go back to primary one because your first English teacher messed you up so bad. You must be in one of those university in Lesotho or Somalia but definitely not South Africa where their university rank among the best in the world. Now I see more reasons why Nigeria graduates are not even offer jobs within Nigeria.
Do you still believe you university ranking, especially in Africa?
EducationRe: Nigerian Students In Ghana Pay N155 Billion As Tuition Annually by chamber2(m): 2:44pm On Nov 03, 2011
^^^

How much is Ghanaian GDP?

You mean Nigerian students are contributing about 1-2% of their GDP?

Even S.Africa won't make much claims
EducationRe: Nigerian Students In Ghana Pay N155 Billion As Tuition Annually by chamber2(m): 2:41pm On Nov 03, 2011
angelo234:
Nigerian universities needs,minister of education and the Nigerian university council(NUC) Should serious take a concrete measurement our education,even here in south africa,i am a student of economic in UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH AFRICA, nobody pay for my school intuition from nigeria.i do support myself.those who are sending billion of naira for intuition to oversea is boasting o ther peoples economy,making his own downside.
Did you say you are a student of which university huh

This is the main reason i don't believe in university ranking.

So, your school ranked better than OAU?

I doubt if any Nigerian student/graduate can write this nonsense.

@topic

This is the biggest lie of the century. I have been trying to figure this out to no avail. The figure is cooked as usual. However, this is an urgent call to revisit our school system.

Sooner than later the story may become true.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 5:55pm On Nov 01, 2011
@Okija_juju

A fair analysis if you ask me.

However, even as laudable as your ideas appear to be you also failed to consider the cost implication of such initiatives. Remember, university education is not the only concern of the govt. The pry schools, sec, technical and myriads of other issues which demand financial attention confront the govt. How your recommendations will be funded remains another issue of concern.

Also, standardising the educational system of the state is only but a process-a process which requires continous investments and policy review. The process has just begun and if sustained will bring about the desired results. All what we are saying here are based on speculations, nobody knows for sure the govt's next line of action.

Even though i may agree that the benefits of sending 60 students abroad will be limited and to the beneficiaries.One shouldn't also lose sight of the multiplier effects of such policy move.If not for the huge corruption in the system what is the big deal sending 60 students abroad for exchange program? Even kids in private nursery and primary schools do that these days.

I must add that our ultimate concern is to see things improve in our individual states and country in general, nobody is here to make enemies. It is most likely that we disagree in most issues, especially those involving sentiments and emotions. This argument has only made us see things differently.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 1:56pm On Nov 01, 2011
Imo State Governor, Owelle Rochas Anayo Okorocha, has commenced the payment of monthly stipend to primary and secondary schools students.
The payment takes off simultaneously in each of the 27 local government areas today November 1, 2011).

While primary school pupils receive N100, their secondary school counterparts will get N120. Also, primary school monitors will get N120, while prefects in the secondary schools will receive N150.

Addressing Journalists shortly after a meeting with Governor Okorocha, top government officials and stakeholders in the education sector in the state, the Special Adviser to the Governor on Education, Prof. Fabian Osuji disclosed that committees had been set up in the 27 LGAs to visit all the schools for the purpose of making the payment.
Prof. Osuji added that the fund had been released for the October stipend, adding that the governor, his Deputy, Jude Agbaso and other top government officials would equally participate in the exercise to give pupils/students the sense of belonging they deserved from the government.

The special adviser stated that government would also kick start the policy implementation on education with the construction of 305 European standard schools in each electoral wards in the 27 local government areas of the state, adding that each of the schools would be centrally sited.
He also disclosed that a committee had been set up by government to ascertain the actual data of students enrolled in the already existing schools in the state, as well as infrastructural facilities.
The governor’s aides further stated that a joint committee of SEMB, SUBEB and NUT would be chaired by a top government official appointed by the governor.
including the transition committee chairmen and Directors of Administration and General Services will be saddled with the responsibility of implementing the free education policy in the LGAs.
Prof. Osuji also disclosed that the committee is further charged with responsibilities of awarding construction contracts, payment of stipends and supervision of the school fencing project.
He however stated that teachers in the state would be promptly paid to cope with the challenges of implementing the new state policy on Education.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/nov/01/national-01-11-2011-0012.html
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 1:38pm On Nov 01, 2011
Kobojunkie:
Most exchange programs are not funded from the pockets of the PUBLIC. . . . . There are usually agencies set up to raise money and fund such programs. You don't dip into the PUBLIC pockets to run your PERSONAL CHARITY PROGRAM. Rochas should know that since he has experience doing that. And so every citizen ought to be outraged if it turns out, at the end of the day, that this scheme saw the diversion of public funds.  grin
Maybe you forgot we live in a part of the world where access to such private sector funds is limited or nonexistent. In such situation what do you suggest the govt does, fold arms and watch? I don't think so either.

Unfortunately, most people opposing this laudable idea are those who may have studied abroad where private sector led initiatives in the education sector is prevalent. Most Nigerian universities don't even have endowments and only depend on the govt for their operations. This is, however, not the case abroad where a bank can fund/sponsor research, teaching and learning initiatives in schools.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 12:11pm On Nov 01, 2011
[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=792726.msg9457544#msg9457544 date=1320144293]Now Let me start with you because you come across as someone who can be reasonable in a debate;

1. Sir! If you go back to that long post which I made earlier, you would notice the portion where i stated "It would have been better if he had sent those 60 students abroad to complete/finish their education, rather than a 6month all expense paid vacation". It would be more profitable for a student to go abroad, learn the skills properly and then come back home and serve for 4 to 5 years mandatory in the Imo State civil service rather than this "exchange program" which has very minimal advantages to the state. I hope you understand.

If Imo State says every year, we would send 50 students, from all the local governments in the state abroad on merit to study abroad with a 6 year post-graduate pay-back scheme were they must work for the Imo State govt for a while then I can see some real developmental system in place, but an exchange program really is just a waste of state funds and does not improve Imo State University system in any way. Instead, a Lecturer exchange program would serve to benefit a wider student base than a student exchange program (I hope you understand!). Bring in Expart lecturers from the West to teach here for 1 year and send ours over there to learn more for 1 year, now thats a laudable scheme with long term bebefits that would cut across a wider audience.

Sir!! Open your ears and stop being pig-headed;

The quote above is your initial statement, now let me re-construct your grammer;

"I'm sure you are not from Imo State, if so, your opinion does not count in this regard.

You cant make a definite statement, and then negate it in the following sentence. "If not" will be like saying "if indeed (you are wrong and) I am from Imo State, then my opinion does not count" This is what you should have been taught in Junior secondary school. Please dont let us turn this thread into a classroom. Take corrections and lets move to address the issue at hand.[/quote]Just as you said, lets concentrate on the issue at hand because taking this further will expose many grammatical/spelling errors in your comment above. I am also sure that spelling is something that should have been taught at the primary school level.For maturity sake i will leave that for the next day.

I have repeatedly pointed out that this money could have been spent on various programs which is capable of adding value to the lives of the people of the state. Your opinion above could have been one of such projects/programs. Hence the gov, in his wisdom, chose to do this first, and also taking into cognizance his various people oriented programs, i think the idea of sending 60 imo students abroad for internship/exchange program is not misplaced.

I have also stated that the exchange program, at the long run, will give the beneficiaries a sort of competitive edge in the already saturated labour market. Having a one year exchange program abroad is not all about having a vacation or looking at the bouts of oyinbos as you would want us believe. It involves cross-cultural interaction, exposure to modern way of doing things and intellectual awakening.This will remain an integral part of this student's quest for learning  and development.

Also, every government  has a range of programs and activities to be accomplished within a specified period of time. The sequence of the program implementation process may not necessarily be as you wish or want it to be. This is the first phase i think. If you read the governor's manifesto you will notice that the idea of exchange program/internship is one of the items on the list.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 11:01am On Nov 01, 2011
PointB:
It does not matter whether his is from Imo or not;there is no way you will know if his opinion counts or not, well except if you are the one doing the counting.
The  best you can do it to present a better, and much more logical 'opinion' than him, and let the reader be the judge.

Personally, I agree with what the governor has done and is doing educationally for the state. In my own judgement, I would say given his manifesto, which upon the Imo State electorate voted for him, and his activity, I would say so far he has not derailed.
we share the same opinion on this issue. Maybe you have not read my comments here.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 10:31am On Nov 01, 2011
[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=792726.msg9457053#msg9457053 date=1320139417]Erm!! Sir!

Point of correction, Grammatically, it should be "If not", and not "If yes". And secondly, how can you make a "definite" statement, and then in the following sentence question your statement?! (Just highlighting some problem areas that Okorocha may want to look into)


Now that said, Last time I checked, Nairaland was not an Imo State Forum, neither is the owner of the site (Seun) from Imo State, nor is their any rule anywhere that limits comments on topics/threads to be strictly by indigenes or persons directly affected by the posts.

This is a Public forum, if you Imo State folks dont want our input, then I suggest you dont put your shi't on a public forum. Emphasis on "YOUR SHI'T" and "PUBLIC FORUM".

Now sir, I hope you understand this fact.

You have a good day.[/quote]Keep quiet. It is supposed to be[i] if not[/i] indeed! Did you consider the initial statement[i] I am sure you are not from Imo state[/i]? How then do you expect me to add NOT? The yes is just a confirmation of my initial statement.

Grammatically bullshit
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 9:57am On Nov 01, 2011
[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=792726.msg9456867#msg9456867 date=1320137272]First of all, it wasnt an advice I gave it was my opinion on an issue that I simply aired.

Secondly, this is a forum and the whole idea of it is for people of diverse opinion to air their views, debate and disagree to agree.

Finally, for someone who just asked me to keep my opinion "advice" to myself to end up giving one himself reeks of double standards and/or hypocrisy.

Well!! I shouldnt be surprised, if you were any smarter, you would have been one of the 60 kids going to America. Typical product of Imo State upbringing.[/quote]I am sure you are not from Imo. If yes, then your ''opinion'' does not count in this regard

Thank you
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 8:49am On Nov 01, 2011
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=792726.msg9456533#msg9456533 date=1320133181]I'm talking about tuition for university.

Unless you are saying that one cannot find 2000 Imo high schoolers who will benefit from having a $300 scholarship (again, towards university expenses) next year.[/quote]Of course there are. As i said, there are many ways in which this money would have been spent. It all depends on the program outline of the govt. Who knows if the next item on the list is the scholarship program.

If only every Nigerian leader can at least invest very little in the development of our people then the journey to economic development will be a little faster.

Just imagine this 60 students stating in their CVs after graduation that they had 6 months internship/exchange program in the US? This will definitely give them a competitive edge among their mates during job hunt or even securing scholarships for further students in the future
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 8:37am On Nov 01, 2011
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=792726.msg9456488#msg9456488 date=1320132527]What of option #3?

$300 tuition scholarship for 2000 Imo State high school students?

Which do you think is better for the state?[/quote]Maybe you are not following events in Imo state.

There is free and compulsory education in Imo state from primary- secondary with meal tickets.

Also, tuition fee for students of Imsu have been reduced by about  80% from 150,000 naira to about 30-50k

Every Imo student is entitled to a N100 meat ticket per day so long as he/she is not absent from school

What else can we ask of?

Imo state also has scholarship and bursary packages. There is also a proposed new university in Imo state and complete upgrading of the existing Imo state University.

Of course, there are so many ways to spend the money but i am sure the gov did his homework well b4 coming up with this program. What we should be talking about now is the sustainability.
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 7:19am On Nov 01, 2011
DrummaBoy:
1billion is about half of state monthly allocation
That I think is waste though I have praised Rochas b4 on NL
Do you maths well.

60 * 10,000 USD = 600,000 USD

600,000 USD * N150 = N90, 000 000

What's the big deal spending 90m to give 60 imo citizens a new perspective to life?

Ohakim, the former gov, spent double of this amount to send his friends and relatives to world cup games in south Africa. He also sponsored another group to watch manchester UTD premiership game in UK.

Which of the two is better? Sending 60 students on exchange program in the US or sending his cronies to UK to watch premiership?
PoliticsRe: Gov Okorocha Sponsors 60 Imo Students To The US by chamber2(m): 12:31am On Nov 01, 2011
desertboom:
@KOBO. . . Yes, I tagged you enemy of progress because I've continually given you sincere answers to your questions but you've failed to see reasons and learn from popular opinion here, all  you can do is asking for more and more evidence. What kind of  evidence do you want? When people from Imo and beyond have repeatedly post/comment about the internship scholarship. Can't you read and draw conclusions from peoples opinion here? Why must you be quick to termed everything lies and deceit? Finally, deluded fellow like you are always in a hast to labelle Nigeria Educational system mess when you're not any better.
Who are you even trying to convince if i may ask? For what purpose even? So that she may believe you? And if she does or doesn't, will that influence the decision of the governor to send 60 imo citizens to the US, a feat which their parents could not afford? Do you know how much the former governor spent sending his relatives to Malaysia to study?

Whether feasible, wise or unwise, so long as it is something that will benefit a citizen of Imo state, rather than the bizarre that is ongoing in other states, i am completely in for it. Nairaland opinion doesn't change nothing.

Talking of you being in 400l bla bla bla. Is making silly comments on nairaland a way to measure someone's intellectual abilities? If she answers in the affirmative then she is not different from the products of Nigerian education system which she wants to denigrate.

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