₦airaland Forum

Chimookigwe:
Coming from a hopeless nyamiri with no past and no future, I'm not suprised.

Lol
No past and future indeed and the Britons found them a hard but to crack and no known history of being conquered nor cowed by colonial masters.
Go and read about the Igbos oga; they were the slaves most feared.
BTW, hope you know your past is vague too else falling from the sky is cool?

Anazp:
you are still dodging the question. Tell us what empire the igbos ran before the British came? Whose war commander ran and absconded his seat to Ivory coast? Have u heard of the aare oonakanfo? A war leader than never runs away in battle

Stop the pride and today Ilorin is the caliphate's while non of the lands of the Ivory coast man and his kinsmen remained intact?

jimyjames:
Do you know 3 million Biafran kids were starved to death by Nigerian government during the civil war? The Nigerian government still claims what the did was right cause it was an act of war , so there is noting wrong here

Is that why you will rejoice in the death or suffering of those kids?
Then how are you diff from them?
Bros, be careful of how you engage ppl in here before NL turns you to something else.
Yes we lost lives before & during that war but I will never wish or support the death of any child (In Igbo we say, "every child belongs to all; they're our kids too).
Peace and meekness, please

I feel so bad with thus statement
I mean the only reason this miyetti gave was the Govs cant pay but agreed to state police which the govs will also fund.
Btw, wetin be their business whether the govs can pay it not?
Truly, the effrontery of the AGF & miyetti is seriously worrisome.
Imagine the brazen audacity on another man's issues.
Nawaoooooo

BabaRamota1980:
You be proper mumu. You hear people talk about Sharia, you have no clue what it is and just begin shout Sharia up and down.

For your information, Sharia is not a culture.

Sharia is a jurisprudence, and you must enforce laws to sustain its creeds.

My earlier statement stands since the person opposing it does not even understand the basis under which his opposition is given.

Lol
I knew you will resort to ribald when you have lost reasoning.
Thank GOD for internet; going by you, you insisted Sharia was "custom"ary and below are your words, swallow it oga.
I am not here to spite Amotekun as it is a correct and commendable move but I'm here to mirror you to yourself and show how selfish and heartless you can be with issues.

BabaRamota1980:
Hisbah is community policing, not different from local vigilante. The common goal amongst community policing, regardless of what name they bear is the interest to uphold and conserve customary code of morality in public space. In other words, kill and destroy agents of change that if left alone to thrive will soon displace and erode the local customs. So the duty of the local or community police is to enforce the tenets of their customary beliefs against its taboos or threats.

One community may see beer consumption as an agent of change that must be liquidated, another one may see robbery, another sees kidnapping, yet another may consider prostitution as a challenge. It is not national policing, but localized.

What taboo in the customs of the people will Biafran Security Service protect?

No one should rejoice on this, even Americans
I watched those light flashes and was seeing lives crying for help. Children and parents crying and their bereaved families.
I really feel for Iranian govt as they'll regret fighting back, killing more of their own while the US lost no soul

omenka:
When will ibos start minding their business? Did the yorubas invite the pig called Kanu into their affair?

When will you people start focusing on the failures you call governors distributing fairly used wheelbarrows and kerosene to alleviate poverty in your region?

You guys are just something else. The Yorubas dont need you. They can handle their business themselves. Stay your lane.

NK, was not even referring to the Yorubas rather his speech was for those against Amotekun.
Nawaoooooo
Baba Aproko & "high"po"crazy"

omenka:
God bless you. The bleached pig should mind his business and stop seeking unnecessary attention. I'm sure he misses the spotlight and wants to raise his rotten head so his minions can notice he's still around.

He should worry more about the kerosene and wheelbarrow distributing idiotic governors in his region and keep his filthy claws off Yoruba affairs.

Useless swine.

Hypocrisy remains your flagship as a person
No be garri and gnut I dey see for this pics?
I beg, Barrow for work and kerosene dem no better pass garri?
https://www.informationng.com/2019/01/apc-campaigns-with-branded-garri-in-lagos-state-photos.html/amp

omenka:
My brother!! Just look at his piglets sounding as if he or any of them is doing Yorubas anh favours.

This is simply famzing of the highest order. No one gives a shit about the humpbacked pornstàr in Yorubaland, except of course ipod deputy God, the cocaine sniffing crackhead called ffk.

iPods are just unimaginably deft.

I agree with you but you should be shameless to agree with same idea you fought against years back and same originator of the idea looked past your grouse and stands by his ideology.
You see, you have no ideology but sway up and down premised on your selfishness
Yesterday you called him a piglet for insulting you and today you still called him a piglet for commending you.
Shouldn't you check yourself?
Inasmuch as I will never vote an Nnamdi Kanu cos I am sceptical about him, I respect so much his attitude sometimes, truly

Oyo people should please lend me GSM cos this guy has never gotten anything wrong since ascending that seat of power
Oyo State Government has declared that public school teachers would henceforth be promoted and honoured according to their diligence and efficiency, as reflected in the overall performance of their students in external examinations.

This was contained in a press statement by the Oyo State Commissioner for Information, Wasiu Olatunbosun, on Wednesday.

The statement noted that the declaration was announced by the Chairman, Oyo State Post-primary Schools Teaching Service Commission at an Interactive session with School Managers, Saki zone, Oke Ogun.


He said, “The promotion of teachers will no more be ‘business as usual’ as the Governor Seyi Makinde administration has concluded plans to award excellency, based on measures of efficient and productive input by teachers to make their students excel in external examinations.

“You can see that our government is a listening one, we are here today to have some feedback, tell us which area we need to improve as government and I can assure you that era of unpaid salary has gone forever as this administration will continue to make prompt payment of salary its priority.


“In the last promotion that we did where over 800 teachers got promoted, there was no report on the beneficiaries, everybody was just moved together at the same time, though we believe our teachers are noble, good and hard-working but we may have some bad eggs, who are lazy and might have sailed through without been qualified and the hard-working ones will be feeling cheated.

“This is why we are contemplating that at the end of every year, there must be reports on our teachers’ conduct and activities; teachers that are sanctified to be good and efficient need not wait for a general promotion, they will be promoted and honoured as at when due.”

https:///iirLgHK5jx?amp=1

faoogoke:
By the time you ask around many of those making comments here are supposed to be graduates!

It is pathetic that they don't know why governments all over the world issue bonds are regular intervals.

So sad for this country.

Kai! Nothing aboki no go see for gate.
Are you telling me that custom, JAMB, FIRS, etc today has doubled while some have tripled their revenue plus the useless bond with low rates, yet you dont provide common power, water, housing, healthcare, roads for your people like those countries you referenced?
Subsidy has tripled, upon the border closure oooo, fuel price almost doubled, taxes increased.
And you call yourself a graduate?
For not projecting and including necessary factors influencing a decision, sorry to say, a gala seller may do better.
I could dare you to show us a document of your tax as I'm sure you dont pay tax else you wont say this.

Your 1 to 4 is gibberish
So, if as a man I have a natural habit of having erection in the presence of scantily dressed ladies, I should foolishly obey my emotion?
Same way you're asking a lady to be mad to her husband cos of monthly cramps?
Why dont we see these ladies behaving badly to their bosses at work cos of cramp?
Oga, go and sit down

BabaRamota1980:
Nation building! Thats a Yoruba custom AMOTEKUN will protect and sustain. Security is pro-society. Threats to security is anti-society. By destroying threats Amotekun destroys agents that threaten social progress and growth.

Let me see you respond with a reference to my last statement/question in that quoted passage.

Baba, so you wanna usurp the power of the police?
Btw, the argument you posited was Hisbah protecting the Sharia customs of the North and not security in itself.
Sorry to say you're being incoherent or hypocritical.

BabaRamota1980:
You said worse than this when Sowore was roughened in courtroom.

Your statements are still in your archives.

You said worse than this, but you swallowed your own venom when this same Malami that made himself into god met with a bigger god.

We stand with our shoulders and head up today because we triumphed over evils like you.

Amotekun will triumph!

AGF is a mere minister of law, Yoruba commands the best accomplishments in jurisprudence and we shall prove it, as we have always done.

Like I have opined, they are not like most of you here who rejoice at other people's ills.
Even the Nnamdi Kanu I criticize too spoke out for Sowore and IPOB openly berated Igbo governors while praising the SW governors who rolled out Amotekun.
See your post when there was an attempt of sth like this in the SE;

BabaRamota1980:
Hisbah is community policing, not different from local vigilante. The common goal amongst community policing, regardless of what name they bear is the interest to uphold and conserve customary code of morality in public space. In other words, kill and destroy agents of change that if left alone to thrive will soon displace and erode the local customs. So the duty of the local or community police is to enforce the tenets of their customary beliefs against its taboos or threats.

One community may see beer consumption as an agent of change that must be liquidated, another one may see robbery, another sees kidnapping, yet another may consider prostitution as a challenge. It is not national policing, but localized.

What taboo in the customs of the people will Biafran Security Service protect?

So, now I ask you your question, what custom of the SW will Amotekun protect?
Bros, stop being hypocritical and that is the problem with most of you in here; SELFISHNESS
Oyatz come and see this too

oyatz:
This is a security issue and NOT political parties issues.


Yoruba people belong to PDP, APC, Labour and several other parties.


Yoruba politicians in PDP and PDP fans/supporters like Ex- Gov Gbenga Daniel, Olu Falae, Ex- Govs Ladoja and Mimiko, Fayose, Akinwunmi Adeshina, FFK, OPC, Afenifere etc supported GEJ such that PDP scored about 40% of the votes casted in the SW in 2015.

Yoruba politicians like Tinubu, Fashola, Fayemi, Amosun, Osinbajo etc supported Buhari and they had about 60% of the votes casted.

In the 2019 elections, PDP won the presidential election in Ondo and Oyo States and narrowly lost in Osun State.

Overall, the PDP got more votes in the S/West than in the S/East.
The incumbent Governor of Oyo State and the main proponent of the Amotekun security outfit, Gov Seyi Makinde belong to the PDP.

It was a fair deal.


You can open another thread directing Nigerians on who to handle over power to in 2023 but don't derail this thread sir.

Bros, I'm not here to play bigotry cos as for me, I WILL VOTE IN THIS COMING ELECTION ONLY IF APC PRESENTS OSIBANJO of which I'll give PYO my vote. If not I'm not voting at all.
This Amotekun has everything to do with politics; with state police the FG will have limited power during elections and even curb some state/regional security issues.
I am not about PDP/APC, you still dont get the drill.
My point is being selfless at least 30% of the times.

wirinet:
Sorry to say, but you don't know how international politics and diplomacy works.

I reiterate again Iran has never ran any terror program on US soil , and no Iranian has ever planned or carried out a terror attack on US soil.


Only Trump and Pompeo seem to know. They have not been able to explain to the American people the real reason Soleimani was assassinated. Even his republican members of Congress were angry at the briefings Trump's people gave.


Agreed. But the coys are terrorists to the US and israel, but not to most countries of the world. The Europeans, Russia, china, etc do not view Iran as terrorist.


These were Iranians coming in through the ports, so these are the ones the authorities could easily identify.
If a war actually breaks out, the government would hunt for Iranians and detain them for the duration of the war. This was what happened to Japanese and Japanese Americans and Germans in America during WW2.

Terrorist in inverted commas as I used depicts specificity.
Lol, you had to mention Israel that showed signs they were not interested in the US-IRAN beef?
Guy, did you really say this, "These were Iranians coming in through the ports, so these are the ones the authorities could easily identify."? So you dont know the US has a database of migrants?
Those coming in were only detained to scan them.
Even some Americans left Iran & Iraq due to personal security.
The argument is that no one except the North can do that in a non-war situation.
The SW & SE has no land boundary, so I doubt if any war will occur between the 2

wirinet:
Did you read the report or you just like arguing just for the sake of argument. Where was it written that any of the Iranian citizens detained were suspected terrorist? Have you heart of any Iranian planning or carrying out a terrorist attack on US or European soil?

There is no international law that can regulate foreigners in another country. It the countries themselves that make the laws that governs the rights of foreigners.
Nigerians asked Ghanaians to leave in the early 80s and nothing happened. Idiamin asked Lebanese and other foreigners to leave Uganda in the 70s, nothing happened.

Guy, I'm already at work I'd have explained better.
You said, "Iran has never ran any terror program on US soil"?
Why was the attack on Suleimani?
Iran partners and funds terrorist coys.
There is no way the US will detain all Iranians on its soil
Please show me the news

oyatz:
It's not a tribal issue (as Tribal bigots like you can not think beyond tribalism) but the fight for the right to secure each federating unit.

Each Regional ethnic groups drumming support of Amotekun are doing so because the establishment is in line with their stand on True Federalism.


The South-South and the North Central are also in support showing that this is not Yoruba Vs Igbos affairs.


Enugu State constituted Forest Guards and Benue State had Anti-Open grazing Marshall.

The main thing here is that the Federalism in Nigeria is been tested and challenged.

But bros, the guy is telling you the truth.
The SW has always been so selfish in its political desires.
I thought most SWerners were against GEJ for bad governance but the way they support every ill of this govt from Sowore's detention to Hanan flying presidential fleet to rigged/violent elections, you will understand it is for selfish reasons.
Let's assume the Igbos are terrible, so what about handing power to the SS to complete their tenure?
See, the SS, SE & NC are usually rational with their decisions

wirinet:
But Americans & Britons can ask anyone to leave. If not for the courts (American law), I am sure Trump is ready to ask all Iranians to leave the US. Many of them were detained last week during the US - Iran showdown.

Citizens of countries have free access to countries it's government has cordial relationship with. Biafra is very unlikely to have cordial relationship with Nigeria, sorry the zoo.

The US has no right to ask any lawful foreigner to leave even in cases of war safe for unlawful acts.
The only Iranians detained last week are those whom are suspected to have "terrorist"(Note the stress on terrorist) ties.
See, the SW will never try that.
They can only stop entry to the barest minimum and for those living already, they can't do anything

MelesZenawi:
Nice and wonderful submission. Suprised to meet a sound mind since I started reading all the comments here.

Meanwhile , even some Igbos here who feel they are more educated than their forefathers and has all faculties of thinking at nano level will tell us I am happy Igbos and Yoruba are on same level(cherez) Yorubas can see that Igbos are not their enemies (Dnspro)....and hosts of others who doesn't understand or know the difference between their right and wrong.


Igbos and Yorubas are not and will never be on sane level because nobody caters for others welfare.

Had it been we are talking if Biafra secret service here, who on earth won't know what their comments and submission will be or how they will view it.


Nairaland are full if pathetic emotionalist who doesn't know their right from left.

If FG says Amotekun is illegal then it is illegal and should be disbanded.

So if FG says IPOB which bears no arm is a terrorist organization, it should remain so?
The Nigerian FG is so biased and so its decisions.
I'm not here to play the tribal card but to drive equity even for my "enemies" ie if I have one

sarrki:
He’s right

No funding

Comments like yours makes me cry for this country.
Can you just drop sentiments for once and be realistic?
Does the FG has funding too?
A broke ass govt that has been on a borrowing spree?
But the JTF & Hisbah have enough funds, right?
Even the so called FG's NPF & NA do get fundings from state governments.
There is every hypocrisy in these words below by Babangida,
"Speaking on Channels Television Newsnight, Mr. Babaginda the governors should have convinced the Federal Government to put up some part of the revenue for the purpose of curbing insecurity in the region.

“It is not viable because they are quarreling with minimum pay, now they create another force that you must equip them, pay them salaries, and give them all the needed welfare, which is going to be a problem for the state, where will they get the money to do that"

wirinet:
Well i did not see your post where you said anything against hisbah. I have known you to be defending hisbah with vigour since I noticed you.

I am glad you are educated, so we can debate on an intellectual level instead of emotional level, without the use of threats, intimidation and innuendos. My problem with you is that you are sometimes dishonest. You view issues from your narrow perspective and not care about how issues affect others. I call that entitlement mentality.

Don't misunderstand me. I supported Buhari 100%, I did two years schooling in sokoto in the late 80s and fell in love with sokoto and northerners. When I was in sokoto, I did not feel threatened, I drank beer when I wanted to (but in a private bar or private space), I worshiped in a church when I felt like (all the churches were on Ahmadu bello road ), although I hate pork, no one threatened me from eating it. In fact when I was leaving one of my fulani friend offered to give me a goat as a parting gift. That was love.

Today, the story is different, I would not go back to sokoto for a million dollars. There is so much religious intolerance. You guys now want to impose your beliefs and lifestyle on others.

Now, what seperated an hisbah Police from amotekun? Are you saying if I steal or commit murder, hisbah Police will not arresting me? They may not have the powers to prosecute me, but they will effect the arrest, using violence if need be. They arrest people selling and drinking beer, they arrest men and women in hotel rooms.

You are away that there is a huge security challenge in the southwest and the south as a whole. Farmers are having difficulty earning their livelihood, due to cattle grazing and attacked by fulani herdsmen, and these have been going on for decades with increasing intensity. The federal government has either been complicit, incompetence or non challant, what do you expect the governors or the people to do?

No need arguing with that guy.
Nigerians are so sentimental that even the educated ones sound stupid.
Deaths by the herdsmen across states has risen and since the FG cant do anything to help, let the states help themselves. QED

MrMaestro:
The yeebos are too childish and intellectually inept to think clearly. its like they've been cursed to the level that their inability to get over the defeat at the hands of the yorubas is preventing them from liberations.

one thing is clear, mutual benefit or not, the yeebos need to be right alongside the aboki getting kicked out of the SW when disintegration takes place. They have proven time and time again that the hatred they have for yorubas is beyond repair.

You should be shameless at least to mention people that have proven not to be a threat by any means to you.
Even Americans & Britons you run to their places haven't asked anyone to leave. I just await the day this shit will happen, I doubt you can even try this.

NGpatriot:
I do understand their fears and nervousness, Hisbah is nothing and the bush abi forest guard in the SE is pretty much irrelevant, they pose no threat to them and their sensibilities and insecurities, but the fact that this outfit is Yoruba and SW related is the main issue because Yoruba people do things with seriousness and dedication and before they know, Amotekun is the best, the most effective and well equipped security outfit in Nigeria, this is what they fear, they just don't know where this is going and they don't want to be left behind.

It's very safe to conclude that this is the building block and foundation of a state or regional police, they already have the first “high-powered DNA forensic laboratory in Nigeria, fully accreditation by American Association for Laboratory Accreditation, next is command and control, criminal investigation and pseudo policing.


What's Amotekun going to look and be like years from now, the fear is real.

That is problem of most NL thought school projectors like you.
Entheone yourself, claim superior while rubbishing others and thinking you will grow?
You rubbish the forest guards (saying "abi bush" & Hisbah and claim yours is superior?
One thing you should learn the hard way is that the Hausa/Fulani is the only tribe that can hold Naija to ransom. No other part can on its own try shit

itsme01:
they decieve your self... we have started this and nothing is stoping us , we know our rights unlike Yeebows

Wetin concern Igbos for this matter now.
You must be so obsessed with that tribe

IamPatriotic:
Amotekun is a living soul already, Buhari is only telling those that want to copy us ( The Omoluabis) that they came late

You're shameless
Patriot indeed
In his words, "The setting up of the paramilitary organization called “Amotekun” is illegal and runs contrary to the provisions of the Nigerian law."
Dont go and address Malami, keep dreaming of people you shouldn't be concerned about

powerkey:
Yoruba are good at one thing "STEALING" of other people's ideas.

I've personally seen experienced it on several projects.

However, you have some very sincere ones oo, but the rest na counterfeit.

What is this rubbish again?
Can't you just respect yourself?

Truly, this is gibberish and I am gravely disappointed in this guy with this statement.
Is this unto comparison or what?
You talk you no do, another person no talk but do. Who get sense pass?
Sincerely, the current crop of SE governors are terrible.

Mishael42019:
everything has an end.

I’m not ibo but this your quote of rejoicing the massacre of 1967 my God will judge you.

This same bad road, bad economy, insecurity, unstable electricity will meet your end.

If I be a Man of God!

Inasmuch as that guy is crazy and empty-headed, you should take it easy and shouldn't have said these

yarimo:
As long as the good people of Nigeria are concerned, MURIC is the best thing to happen for Nigeria. FG should honour AKINTOLA with GCON it's clear he means well for Nigeria.

Lol
Well done sir, so no longer PMB or you but MURIC
Meanwhile, cos Hanan is PMB's daughter with the priviledge to ride the jet makes Nigerian females lazy?
Even is lazy as I never see am for presidential jet?

SangoOlukosoOba:
State it so I can school you. I don't want you to start shifting goal post when I start to enlighten you

Mr. Know it all, read:
https://www.thecable.ng/falana-use-of-presidential-jet-for-private-event-by-buharis-family-illegal/amp