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A40:
You are a phool!! Carrick, Schweinsteiger e.t.c are not even natural DM's they are deployed there due to tactics and limited mobility and rarely play without another complimentary and more natural DM in support. Busquets is not a playmaker only a doofus will even remotely suggest that. Whoever wrote up that article is on the same retardeen wavelength with you. I have posted a comprehensive and detailed link that broke down to the nitty gritty the roles of Midfield play, With a crystal clear distinction between a DM and a Deep-lying playmaker and you are still here embarrassing yourself

Ategun has clearly occupied where your brain used to be

The author of that article is a very naughty boy.

A40:
It is criminally wrong to argue that all DM's are deep-lying playmakers

Absolutely!....... Or I might as well call every Central defender a Sweeper.

airmark:
Most of what you wrote here are false. The fact is Sergio did not win it because he was not seen as a spectacular DM. He has limited football skill. Accept that. Now , saying no one has ever rated valdes, buttressed my point. It shows you also accept that valdes was average in barca. Now it will interest you that he was adjudged as la liga Goal keeper of the year twice. Hope you get my analogy now. Though Sergio was never honoured but there are some kind of similarities in their careers. The two are favoured.

I beg to differ. Sergio did not win it not because He wasn't spectacular but because the years that He was, there was someone better. Nah mate it doesn't buttress your point rather it adds weights to mine. There is hardly any competition in the Gk stakes.Keylor Navas has also won the award and I bet you'd never heard of him till his exploits at the worldcup in 2014. Every and Any one will gladly tell you Sergio has been the world's best defensive midfielder of the last 5 years. Anyone that says otherwise is simply playing the devil's advocate.

There is distinctively no similarities in the two careers Brudda. Sergio is king in the world of defensive midfielders whilst Valdes is a merely a peasant.

airmark:
This is another falsehood. Though in Italy deep-lying playmakers are mostly called regista and they seldomly throw tackles as they mostly have eyes for linking the attack. But in other climes its different. A deep-lying playmaker are of two types as I explained earlier based on formation deployed. no one is an island of knowledge but I am sure of this point I am making. The fact is all DMs are Deep-lying playmakers, ask coaching experts. See explanation below bro,:

Deep lying playmakers the worldover are the same and perform the same role. That individual is just being cheeky. How can He label the best Box to box midfielder of the last 5 years(Bastian) a deep lying playmaker? Or Motta a deep lying playmaker? When Prandelli tried him in that position, He failed woefully. Or How can He use the term Carrick and improved passing skills in the same sentence when passing has always been his strongest point? Lastly the author says the likes of Carrick or Bastian can't pick defenses apart with their passing skills? Is He having a laugh Bro?

A40:
Can you believe this !mbecile!! Can you see now why Dayokanu discriminates based on intelligence

Someone that thinks DM = Deep lying playmaker

You and dayo to like wahala jare . Tbh i think it is quite obvious that the two positions differ

OREMUSSANCTUS:
The only yoruba and wealthy man I respect so much is Dr. Mike Adenuga, he is calm and full of wisdom and also not a political olosho.
Adenuga behaves like a niger deltan cum biafran man, he has our blood.
As for iara(light) and oshiomole(darkness) if u like make una spend edo money finish all in d name of politics, na devil go fire una 2

Am dedicating dis FTC, to my beautiful sweet new catch on ma radar, may I find favor in her eyes, Amen.

Look at the quality of graduates the failed nigerian system keeps on churning out on an almost daily basis

airmark:
Whether illara career nosedived is inconsequential to your false opinion you stated earlier. You said assuming they were giving LFC's awards to DMs, Sergio bisquit would have won it twice. That was what you said. In order to debunk your claim, I gave illara who won it as a DM for sociedad. Unless you want to be mischievous, that has cancelled out your excuse successfully. I am not arguing if illara afterwards have been a better player to Sergio, No I was n't. Hope you get the point now. What worked for Valdes throughout his stay at barca, play out for bisquit.

Nah my opinion that had that particular award been for only defensive midfielders, Sergio would have won it several times still counts. Not taking anything away from Illara(He had a phenomenal season) but 2013 was not the greatest of years for La liga midfielders. Cor Blimey! look at the names of the runner ups.

Now saying Sergio's case is similar to Valdes is simply ridiculous. Sergio is probably the best spanish defensive midfielder of the last 30 year(top 3 overall) whilst no one has ever rated Valdes highly. When you not only command a regular shirt but you are also a vital cog in 2 of the best teams of all time, you are doing something right.

airmark:
Please check the graphic above, an holding midfielder is also called a defensive midfielder or deep-lying playmaker. The rest of the action now depends on the formation used on the pitch, that's why various deep-lying playmakers may take up some secondary roles on the field of play.

What your graph shows is that they occupy somewhat the same position which is true. However their roles are different. A deep lying playmaker is essentially a No10 playing in a much deeper position. 99% of the time, their footballing intelligence is far higher than your run of the mill Defensive midfielders reason why we marvel at the things Pirlo or Redondo can do with a football

airmark:
Illara won it as a DM for sociedad, so no excuse bro.

None given whatsoever however my statement still stands. Also we all saw how Illara's career took a nosedive as soon as He joined madrid. Had that been Sergio in a similar situation, do you think his career would have experienced such a sudden reversal in fortune? Not a chance. He would probably be the second name on the team sheet behind a certain Ronaldo.


Also a deep lying playmaker is not the same as a defensive midfielder Bro. Some deep lying midfielders do have the ability to play as defensive midfielders and are often deployed in that position. Case in point Nando Redondo(his physical presence allowed him to play that role quite well). On the other hand if you use Pirlo as your only defensive midfielder without a Gattuso, a Marchiosio or a De Rossi covering him, you are in for a very long night brudda.

Best defensive midfielder abi best midfielder? Sergio would have coped at least 2 of those awards if it was for only defensive midfielders.

Sagamite:
Swollen with excessive brokortor and pounded yam consumption..

airmark:
Lionel Messi will tell you why he could not find the back of the net against Chelsea after several meetings. If you like bring more statistics, every european soccer follower know well that apart from Madrid, Barcelona of recent, athletico Madrid, other teams in la liga parade more average defenders compared to epl.

If we take out City, Chelsea and United(the equivalent of the two Madrid sides and Barcelona), you might as well start naming league one defenders to fill up your list.

airmark:
Just let us know if la liga has more good defenders than epl. don't beat about the bush bro if you are against my opinion.

The stats is there for all to see. It's up to you to decide whether the stats in front of you was as a result of those teams being better coached or simply down to the quality of defenders.

Now why don't you name these so called "Very Good Defenders" you claim the league has aplenty?

raumdeuter:
Leave EPL fans to wallow in their delusion

In last season CL

The strong EPL defenders performed in the CL below

Arsenal conceded 11 goals in 8 games
Liverpool conceded 9 goals in 6 games
Chelsea conceded 6 goals 8 games
City conceded 11 goals in 8 games

The weak La Liga defence in the CL below

Barcelona conceded 10 goals in 13 games
Madrid conceded 9 goals in 12 matches
Atletico conceded 4 goals in 10 matches


Barcelona won La Liga conceding 21 goals Chelsea won EPL conceding 32 goals

In other words, Defenders in the premier league are a bunch of local champions? So all the talk of "Worldclass Defenders" being a dime a dozen in the league is mere hearsay?

airmark:
One play in the league where most team's defenders are very good, while the other play where most defenders are very poor.

If I ask you to compile a list of these so called "Very Good Defenders", i'm sure you'll start naming wastemen like Shawcross.

SIRcumalot:
He could've left immediately Bale arrived ,but he redefined himself in a new position and was Madrid best player in their quest for UCL trophy.

He was their Best player in the final not throughout the competition

Bimffo:
Nobody wants them to break the Cycle.. But let's face it here, which team can stop them? Which team has the same top quality players.? Barca practically destroyed all the team they met in Europe last season.. From the round of 16 to Final.

Mancity, PSG, Bayern, Juve! These are top teams in Europe and not just any team.. These teams are not Porto, Schalke 04 or Shakhtar Donetsk..

That's what we all said about that 2009 team too. "No one can stop them", "They'll go on to win the next 3-4 CL titles" etc. Guess what happened the very next season? Inter got the job done.

Fast forward to a year later, they won the double. As predictable as one can be, we all started repeating the same ol' recycled lines. Guess what again? They did not touch that trophy for THREE good solid years. Yes you heard that right. THREE YEARS!

Moral of the story: Nothing is guaranteed in football. If it was, it won't be the world's most watched and loved sport.

SailorXY:
you won't defend the UCL, MSN or not. you can take that to the bank.

1 hunna!
Definitely not going to happen. No team has ever defended the CL trophy and Barca ain't about to break that cycle.

Adaahjacob:
Go back and chk, u truly started raining insults on me. Pls chk ur previous notes to me then u'l c u truly need tender an apology to me.

I think you'll find you are the one that brought my lineage into this debate. That singular act started this tirade of abuse

All other things that went before that was me just stating raw facts.

Adaahjacob:
Bros, pls u don win........
Just chill and free me pls.

Winning was never the objective. I was simply giving you a taste of your own medicine

JaypeeAnics:
Its ownly in 9ja dat such tin can happen. here in uk we slap and insult d police,all they will say is dat u hav to obey d law. come try ham 4 9ja ur name go b sorry

In Which UK are you allowed to slap without getting arrested? Because I am 100% sure the UK you are referring to in your post is not the United Kingdom

Adaahjacob:
Can u just use ur common sense and stop d insult!

I think you'll find you actually started the war of words not me. Yours is case of biting off more than one can chew.

Adaahjacob:
Hey mate, what's ur problem rili?
Hope I've not collected ur chik?

Nah no chance of that ever happening.
You started the war of words. All I have done from the onset is state some few home truths backed up with facts.

Adaahjacob:
Issokay.

I know we are getting there.

Thank God for d coming of Baba Buhari.

10yrs ago, Nigeria was not at this level at which she has reached. With d mercies of God, years ahead will

Shall see better changes.

..... Can you now see why we are worlds apart with regards to intellect? .

vislabraye:

Poverty and a lack of good quality education has eaten so deep into his brain cells He can't even tell his right from his left

Adaahjacob:
So disappointed DAT a dullard like u in Dix modern age is intimidated cox of Cambridge! Kaii, u mumu.
I guess u'v not left d shores of dix country, dats y u'r frightened. (Odeh) . Research and knw d worth of Nigeria big for nothing baby,

You are an absolute disgrace to the Failed Nigerian Institution that produced you. A so called "Graduate" that writes in text speak has no right to call his superior a dullard. Yes you heard that right YOUR SUPERIOR. From the quality of education received to the level of intellect I am your superior. The best decision you'll ever make in the entirety of your miserable existence is to take down notes whenever I speak to you.

R..et..ard talking about cambridge when He can't even locate "Lome" on the map. The same Education System could not have produced the both of us. It's simply not possible. We are worlds apart. I possess more intellect in my toe nail than you'll have in two lifetimes you sad c..u..nt.

P:S I actually give free lessons on how Education System in the UK works. Your daft arse will need it.

Adaahjacob:
The whole of ur village and linage, no one has a great achievement as d fellow that constructed that, including u in ur empty forbidden appreciated manner.

You are yet to answer my question you know? Is this what is termed a "Great Achievement" in the backwater Nigerian Institution that produced you? .

If this what you and your lineage regard as a "Great Achievement", then there is absolutely no hope for your yet unborn generation. None whatsoever!

eromspete:
What's the use of an airplane without the wings? ... If this contraption can be called creativity then, we do have a big problem in our hands as young Nigerians.
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Naaaaaa.... This is a "Great Achievement" according to the Fu..ck..tard called Adaahjacob. .

If his ilks are the quality of graduates the Failed Nigerian system keeps churning out on an almost daily basis, then the problem amongst Nigerian youths is even bigger than you think

lordfalcao:
y
After all the bayern team that won UCL 2013 wasn't that fearfull , they changed their mindset to games

How was Bayern not a feared team in 2013? Bayern for at least 3 years running now have been one of the top 3 teams in europe. This pretty much makes them one of the so called "Feared Teams" in european football.

Adaahjacob:
We are so oooo blessed in this country.

Woooooow

Kudos to him.

The man should be encouraged in any way.

Look at the type of "ACHIEVEMENT" this dolt is celebrating . Little wonder He thinks the Nigerian Education system is the best thing since sliced bread .

Adaahjacob:
Ass hole, let her come and try 9ja system and c if she'l make it.


Dullard.

As I said in my previous post, you are truly one daft fella.

Look at this re....tard talking about let Her come and try the Nigerian system. You mean the same failed system that produced YOU? . You would not know a decent quality(nevermind a 6* one) standard of education even if it hit you right bang in your face.

Foooooool telling a Cambridge graduate to "come and try the Nigerian System" .

afrodoc:
Lol. One of d most frustrating things is arguing with a simpleton, 2nd only to trying to teach a simpleton.
It is an exercise in futility to do either with this Trollgnoramus.

Maybe He simply does not know any better you know. Or How else can you explain the fact that the paragraph He was quoting bares no resemblance to the question He was asked?

hensben:
. Between 1997 and 2001 he had loan spells at Leça, where he made his professional debut, Vitória de Setúbal and Alverca, but it was in José Mourinho’s reign that he really started to make big strides forward
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Carvalho.

Two entirely different things. Carvalho taking that huge leap from ordinary to worldclass under Jose's reign is entirely different from "Jose promoted him from the academy to the first team"

Adaahjacob:
Congrats to her. But trust me Mann, she won't make first class in 9ja system.

Your foolishness knows no boundary. Are you telling me a Cambridge graduate won't make first class in the failed Nigerian Education System?

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