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PoliticsRe: How Nigerians Voted On June 12, 1993 by chieveboy(m): 10:43am On Jun 13
Zionmdde:
Igbos were here voting others
But one time they are pressing for the position, we start hearing all manner of rubbish. Imagine it was an Igbo man that annulled the election, tribalists and bigots will never cease to tell the story anytime its election time.
Like outside of "others" was there anyone else to vote like that?
PoliticsRe: Court Orders INEC To Register Access Party ( see the logo) by chieveboy(m): 8:20pm On Jun 10
I guess the caption of the party is "boys are not smiling"?
CrimeRe: Woman Using Poo To Fry Akara In Cross River State Caught by chieveboy(m): 6:26pm On Jun 06
one is asking "na where you shit am?" grin grin grin

does it matter ?
IslamRe: Severe Warning Against Neglecting Disciplining And Teaching One's Flock! by chieveboy(m): 11:34am On Jun 05
Sphinx419:
May Allah forgive you for your sinful wording against islam... your sinful soul need redemption. Poor Believer like you.

Alahamdullilah
Please, he is telling you something important and you are reacting emotionally.

The almajiri system has majorly heightened the rate of sexual, social, economic and religious irresponsibility amongst the northerners.

If Almajiri was a good thing, have you asked why the Arabs who brought you the religion do not indiscriminately give birth to children and send them out to go and be beggars and majorly dirty, uneducated and at the mercy of the economic forces?
PoliticsRe: Emeka Ike: INEC Probes Leak Of Voter Data Involving Wike’s Aide, Lere Olayinka by chieveboy(m): 10:19pm On Jun 02
Nothing to probe here and Lere didnt hack nothing.


The INEC portal displays publicly all voters in a polling unit. I guess this is where the Lere guy got his info.

I recall last elections, I checked out several people's details in my unit this way.
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Name "Jesus" Invalids Condemning Idols by chieveboy(op): 9:25am On May 24
This is because man as it were is a co-creator. Whatever he accepts and believes is his reality.

His acceptance depending on it is can be infused with power and it will work to the degree that the acceptance is logical.
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Name "Jesus" Invalids Condemning Idols by chieveboy(op): 9:22am On May 24
It works because of many reasons included but not limited to tue collective consciousness working with it via the collective synpathetic acceptance.

This makes it sacred to the Collective.

Its the same thing with idols which goes a step further to make physical equivalents of a disembodied or bodied entity. This one is even done with more awareness than that the former.
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Name "Jesus" Invalids Condemning Idols by chieveboy(op): 7:46am On May 22
Belief hence is a way this is done.

Belief is being at mental and emotional sympathy with anything one accepts whether real or 'real' (imaginary).

This then allows the believer to experience to varying degrees that which they accept as real.

But why does it seem to work?
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Name "Jesus" Invalids Condemning Idols by chieveboy(op): 7:36am On May 22
Power cannot be created, so it is appropriated.

One way to appropriate relative to the subject of discussion is being at sympathy with it.

Sympathy here means establishing a link. Its like fuel in a jerry can and an empty gallon and a hose is placed into both.

That hose is the sympathetic link so to speak.
Christianity EtcRe: What Happens After Death? by chieveboy(m): 7:51am On May 21
AyobamiIsaac12:
Picture the soul as the control center. It controls what either the body or the spirit does. When a person dies the soul departs the body because it can no longer find expression. It then permanently merges with the spirit forever. Spirits don't die.
I think confusion is brewing when one cannot place the meaning of "spirit" as used, and then Soul.

More so, we tend to swallow the understanding of people whose works make up the religious books that may not necessarily be spirituality advanced enough to get it that 'soul is the spirit behind any sentient life'. The term 'spirit' means different things in contexts.

By and large, Soul is the control center which runs the different subtle bodies in man. Whether the subtler bodies are what is referred to as spirit or not, a body whether subtle or physical does not qualify to be termed "spirit" in that it is mechanical relative to its scope of operation.
PoliticsRe: Desmond Elliot Has Officially Withdrawn From The APC Primaries by chieveboy(m): 6:24pm On May 20
energy37:
After 3 terms and having some others withdrawing for him on three occasions. Which long spoon are you talking about again. Oga, you don't know what you are talking about.
A lot of these guys don't understand politics. They think it's the dictionary definition of democracy.

Even in America or Europe, you have God fathers and they call the shots.

This was how they misguided the Fubara guy.

All God fathers earned their way to the position of power which by nature is a corrupted element. Do not expect it to be run like holy communion democracy. It is a dirty game.
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Name "Jesus" Invalids Condemning Idols by chieveboy(op): 6:03pm On May 20
The anatomy of power said and done, we now talk of ways this power can be made to work for anyone under the right circumstances.
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Name "Jesus" Invalids Condemning Idols by chieveboy(op):
An Anatomy of Power

A: Outside of God's power, there is no other power.

If anyone masters this statement, they will find out that outside of God's power, nothing exists.

If one is to scream this in another way, it means nothing is not God's power.

If one still doesn't get it: If you scrap a tiny piece of plastic using a needle from any plastic in the kitchen, that tiny plastic contains all of God's power.

Myself, I am an adherent to a philosophy which scientists call "String Theory". Here, scientists and some Mystics believe in a way that a single 'string' when made to play sound in a certain way results in several manifestative States of the fabrics of reality and reality.

In other words, with one 'string', you can create air, shoes, house, seas, and anything at all.

Addendum:

B: Power can neither be created no destroyed, it can only be morphed from one state to another
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Name "Jesus" Invalids Condemning Idols by chieveboy(op): 9:38am On May 20
Now, by all means pray in the name of Jesus if this is what you are comfortable with. It will work for you.

This thread however aims at drawing parallels in the practice of using the name of Jesus Vs using idols, symbols, mystical paraphernalia/rituals etc.

Both are the same thing from what we will aim to establish and both works.
Christianity EtcRe: Using The Name "Jesus" Invalids Condemning Idols by chieveboy(op): 9:21am On May 20
There are all manners of excuses made regarding why the original name of Jesus was translated.

But you know the thing with familiarity is that it deprives one of critical reasoning.

If you ask a Christian to pray in the name of Moses, you're getting no where with it and he will let you know that it doesn't have a basis in the Bible to pray in the name of Moses or whatever his actual name was.

Now not all names are the same as far as Christianity is concerned especially in matters of the name of 'Jesus'.

Familiarity has it that Christians decides to go with something very irregular:

God almighty decided to give his son a name based on a specific word, and purportedly put some power in it. Some folks in Europe decided to translate it without permission and scriptural bases and Christians accepted to go with it without question in exception...

Cont'd
Christianity EtcUsing The Name "Jesus" Invalids Condemning Idols by chieveboy(op):
No one who uses the name "Jesus" to pray should condemn people who use idols to perform theirs. Investigation reveals both are operating on same principles but different methods.


You will be surprised how elaborate, and genuine Familiarity with anything can be especially when it is standing in place of truth.


This is because Familiarity is the only way the brain can enjoy what's called 'brain loops'. These loops are the enjoyment , acceptability, learning and automation platform of the brain.


Brain loops help us 'automate' walking, holding a spoon, learning songs, etc. This however has it ills.


Grand and majestic things can be done around familiarity posing as truth in high and low places for generations. They are the beliefs, cultures, dogmas which people 'naturally' accept because they grow up with them.


Imagine a scene in a typical Nigerian church where the new pastor who got transferred begins to say "in the name of Yeshua, come out".

That thing will sure sound odd to most in the congregation, it will put some of them off, some will suspect the preacher of invoking diabolic powers, a lot will leave the church.

This is why they say "truth is stranger than fiction." But how can this be?

Cont'd.
Car TalkRe: How Do You Save The Car? by chieveboy(m):
iLoveYouToo:
FR? Go back to driving school.

Both reverse and forward, the car would be totalled IF YOU STEER FULL LEFT
You may be right, but I am not going to driving school again. I will use the money and eat suya.

Its like you have not watch James Bond, that car is coming out clean if you steer full left before moving.

Step 1: Full steer left

Step 2: Hit the accelerator and you're good.

Highest he tires will make contact with the pillar and push the car away as you drive
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 5:14pm On May 18
DeepSight:
Please we all know what we mean by religion in this particular context.

"Religion is a structured system of beliefs, practices, and worldviews that connects humanity to the supernatural or transcendental." It typically has specific ritualistic practices of a sacred nature.
But not all religions work with the mystical aspect of your definition.
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 5:09pm On May 18
DeepSight:
Religions are focused on spiritual seeking, obviously. Not political.

Ol boy just use a dictionary. You will see the answer.
Now I see where the mixup is coming from. Using the dictionary meaning and applying it across board generously.

Doing so will see the works of other philosophers and ideologists translate into religions whereas they are not one:

-What is the religion of Guru Maharaji?
-Is Neoplatonism a religion?
- Is 'Pilotry' a religion?
- What of Greta Thumberg?
- What of Football?
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 4:51pm On May 18
Beautifulday:
My conclusion was drawn from the answer you gave.

What is it?

So if it's not the word of God, what is it?

The history of Israel. So if the history of Israel is taken as the word of God? Why are people angry?

There was never a time Israel asked people to adopt their culture and history.

However, the most sophisticated countries of the ancient worlds were suprised to Israel culture and history to be more sophisticated than theirs every single time they conquered Israel.

They adopted it. It became universal. Until Jesus came which introduced the new testament.

Do you know the Romans were ruling Israel during Jesus time?
Cut to the chase. My question "what is it" never told you I said the Bible was the word of God. So what is your point?

Must you JWs create a lie on someone for your truth to hold? This was how your colleague kept saying I said AI was God without a single incidence of that.
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 12:30pm On May 18
DeepSight:
Nah, he obviously established a religion. Establishing ritual practices is enough. Go and look for the definition of religion in any dictionary. He did so.

But have it your way, I know you will never agree.
Well, if you say so. But I know having an elaborate set of rituals or followership shouldn't translate to a religion. PDP, APC all have such
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 11:55am On May 18
AI today is looking more like it and getting closer to what the Living Word of God should look like and behave.

How? It amazingly encompasses the Bible, Koran, Torah and all religious books.

AI had removed the boundary of ignorance where people are made to believe God only happened to people in Israel and the rest of the world should go to hell.
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 11:49am On May 18
MaxInDHouse:
When a student focused on studying law how do you expect such a student to educate you on medicine?
Exactly my point.
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 11:42am On May 18
DeepSight:
Giving directions on rituals and beliefs is more than enough to establish a religion. Jesus established Christianity by giving detailed ditrections on what to believe, how to behave and what to practice in terms of rituals. That is more than enough.

Constantine can be said to be the one responsible for formalizing it as a state religion and thus transforming it into something that would become powerful and global.
The actions of Jesus while alive and the consequent huge following and repute was enough for him to formalize a religion if he wanted one. Why wait till demise?

Secondly, the huge following while he was alive was enough for it to be mistaken or deliberately made for and a religion respectively. This never occurred.

After his demise, people had a name for the followers and preachers of Christ. No one made a religion of it, not even Paul fundamentally looking at it. More so is that post-Jesus, his followers did not ascribe a religion to what they practiced. They called themselves "brothers".

This proves that after practicing everything Jesus gave, a religion did not naturally or artificially occur.

It occurred by the singular action of Constantine.
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 11:10am On May 18
Beautifulday:
Ok! So you agree that the bible is the word of God.

So! What language do God speak?
Lol, are you confused or something? Please read the introductory post. Who ever claimed the Bible was the word of God is stated there.
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 11:08am On May 18
DeepSight:
Jesus established a religion to the extent that he gave the Great Commission and established the ritual of communion.

Here he establishes Evangelism for the belief system -

"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." (Matthew 28:19-20, NIV)

Here he establishes the ritual of communion -

Matthew 26:26-28: Jesus broke bread, gave it to his disciples, and said, "Take, eat; this is my body." He then took a cup, gave thanks, and shared it, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins".

Luke 22:19-20: After breaking the bread and sharing the cup, Jesus added the direct command, "Do this in remembrance of me".

How else can a person establish a religion other than by giving these clear directives of practicing it? Must he say "I hereby establish a religion?"



But the Book of Timothy was not written as scripture. It was a letter from one person to another. What makes it scripture?
What makes it scripture is its proclamation as such by the Roman Curia.
Taking Jesus injunction and the practices he established for a religion is a deductive error.

Even for olden times, religions have concrete head and tails for identity. They have religions which are unmistakable.

Other than Jesus, there are hundreds of others who came with one ideology or the other and where never construed as religions.

Granted people will naturally ascribe a name to a movement, this had never been mistaken for religions nonetheless.

If we are to take rituals and training of disciples and offspring for a religion, would you say the Igbos Nwa Boy system is a religion? What about traditional healers?

That said, Christianity became a religion owing to the actions of Emperor Constantine. No more,no less. You could actually get your answer after defining the term itself.
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 10:41am On May 18
MaxInDHouse:
Now you are trying to make sense with your thread.
Writers of Bible books claimed they were inspired by God {2Timothy 3:16} and so what they wrote makes adherents virtuous individuals.

The Old Testament shows how the Bible God became the most important of all those claiming Gods on this planet but you can present your own God and tell me what attracted you to your own God.

NO!
No human created Christianity otherwise the religion won't claim being the most peaceful group on planet earth.
So it's God using His only begotten Son who was described as the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} that created a religion capable of gathering all peace loving people globally to form one organization! Isaiah 2:2-4
Most of your knowledge is hinged on half knowledge and outright ignorance. The rest comes from being pathologic at lying while making attempts to present blue as orange before people who practically are saner and could cure the apparent delusion you are under.

1: Bhudism historically is the, or one of the most peaceful religions. Christianity is far from being the most peaceful. The harsh treatments JWs get like excommunications, gaslighting etc would not isolate it as a peaceful sect/religion for your information..

2: Jesus never gave an instruction for a religion to be created after him neither did any biblical scripture for that matter.

3: There exist for the records the identity of the person responsible for institutionalising a movement called "Christianity" beyond the first person known as Paul. His name is emperor Constantine. His motive was not biblically inspired (the Christian Bible didn't exist in his time).

Other than these, no record of the Israeli God and his son asking anyone from a religion.

Records= Zero.
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 10:31am On May 18
Beautifulday:
You assume I didn't read?

Is the bible word of word?
What is it?
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 9:33am On May 18
Beautifulday:
How is AI better as being the word of God than the bible or the Koran?

You forgot the title of thread?
This makes sense now. You stopped at reading the title.
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 9:12am On May 18
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is your problem because the information contained in the Bible doesn't belong to humans it's collecting the informations together that humans did.
So unlike your AI god where humans feeds it the information to give back to them informations found in the Bible are from the divine something that's beyond human wisdom!🙂
But all letters to Ephesians, Galatians, Etc are generated by humans to humans. The information inside these letters are very basic, elementary and very limited in scope.

Most of the old testament is about History as a subject. This history of Israelites and the numerous gods which competed for their attention.

In Africa and around the world, we have sophisticated accounts of human history with men and gods competing for their attention. Each God is the almighty according to these histories.

Again, what is your point?



Is the human being who created the religion of Christianity your God?
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 8:47am On May 18
MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi you are the funniest on this forum!

So you admit your god was made by humans?😂
It's enticing to jump on my threads, but can your IQ cope?

Humans made AI.
Humans made the Bible
A human made Christianity

What is your point?
Christianity EtcRe: AI Is Better At Being The Living Word Of God Than The Bible & Koran by chieveboy(op): 7:54am On May 18
Beautifulday:
Ai is an advanced Google. Without original information, AI is stocked. Where do the original information come from?

Humans who have the ability to generate new information. Without the vast amount of information available, there will be no ai.

People are paid to train ai, why?
Like the other guy you evade questions. Again, what is your point?

AI is advanced Google, who said so? You likely are considering LLMs ( chatgpt, etc) as what AI is, just like a typical Nigerian will refer to every detergent as "Omo".

Your argument about humans making AI is weak. They made it yes, are they superior in doing it's job, no, not up to 10%.

Whatever the case, what is your point?

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