The chain of events began one night while I stood on my balcony, enjoying the cool breeze and loving the enchanting, silvery glow of the full moon.

Inwardly, I called out to the adorable ECK Master Rebazar Tarzs, a mysterious man of over five hundred years old, living in the Hindu Kush mountain range, west of the Himalayas, along the Afghanistan-Pakistan northern border.

I knew he would hear and respond because we had developed a rapport over the years.

As I said earlier, 1994 turned out to be one of the most remarkable years of my spiritual training since I came in contact with Eckankar.

My spiritual experiences that year were uplifting, highly illuminating, and excruciatingly challenging.

I gained the most in spiritual wealth, yet it was the year I lost every physical possession, almost losing my life to the bargain.

I enjoin you to read these articles and pick the nuggets that resonate with you.

Usually, there are a couple of techniques and useful gems that I have woven into the story.

Many people will miss them. A few will recognize and appreciate them. That is fine. Take whatever you can or wish.

WAYS OF THE PROPHET IV:
In the Valley of the Shadow
(“How to Change Your Destiny”)
*** By Tosin King James.

*Source Updated

https://web.facebook.com/tosinkingjames/posts/pfbid02E2AxXvenduSyrad3KvkyPVdjEtAKV62ts6GXeEoq6SCnEAENJ7aQagp3LfMzMYUNl

“The rule of destiny holds that people at some time will begin to awaken to who and what they are.” –Sri Harold Klemp, Past Lives, Dreams, and Soul Travel.
***


In this article, and a few more to follow, I will narrate some personal experiences that illustrate the theme: “How to change your deatiny.”


This life is like a jungle or wilderness where the individual is assailed by wild animals and tempestous weather, deceptive friends and enemies. To survive, on its own, is tough enough without having to add the challenges posed by destructive psychic forces.

While most won't touch anything Eckankar with a long stick, it is invariably and exactly what they are looking for.

What is "Eckankar"? I will define it as ANY practice, belief, action that links Soul or a Spirit (that everyone is) to its own original state in the Light and Sound of God via the Light Giver.

The above implies making effort at being at one with Divine or Unconditional love. It is a very happy state. A search for love is a search for God, for God (the supreme deity) is pure and unconditional love.

Talking about this quest, I have had s fare share of mine just like every one.

I had been with the Essenes in a popular lifetime, came into another life as a Sufi Muslim, endured all hardship that most of us have gone through or will.

All just so ine day, I will be mature enough to be able to handle the flux of the Divine Sound Current which passes through the top of the head down the spine of all of us.

I was looking up and about this phenomenon where Spirits keep coming to earth and be born of women as "human beings" in search of that one who would link them up with the Voice of God which some call the Holy Spirit.

You would swear all you wanted from life is just to live a happy comfortable life while ensuring you 'make heaven' if it exists at all.

One can hardly connect all that hassle of dying and being born again over and over practicing virtually all the religions and lack of it, or all that hardship one goes through to make ends meet to the fact that at the topmost purpose of it all is this search for the Voice of God I am talking about.

Update:

For the story in the later part of the thread, here is the link to view completely without waiting:

https://web.facebook.com/tosinkingjames/posts/pfbid02E2AxXvenduSyrad3KvkyPVdjEtAKV62ts6GXeEoq6SCnEAENJ7aQagp3LfMzMYUNl

As in?

And you haven't spoken of provision of enabling environments for people to do business with ease?

sgtponzihater1:
The God of the Jews is the only God there is, all other Gods are the figment of human imagination. Any believe that seeks to elevate man beyond being a creature is of the devil.

There is only one creator and God, we as humans are His subject and creation.

Trampling God under foot in a quest for higher power walking on a slippery slope.

I see.

Doesn't him being a sectarian deity provides the grounds for other deities for other sects or tribes?

Another opportunity to come bask kn the light and Sound of God is here.

This is the true way to exist: Being conscious and intentional about making God an every day reality in your life beyond faith and beliefs.

link incoming.

cc justlove19

Congratulations Chidinma🎉👏

Michael547:

At the bolded....what you know and you've verified is only limited to you. You could as well be lying.

Exactly what I have been saying. Chieveboy, Jesus, Paul, Mark etc could all be lying, the ultimate is simply hear and then go on ahead to verify.

You have clearly stated that the bible supports your idea about the soul which is clearly false

Yea it was false to the degree of the divergence in understanding of the parties involved.

You are still making a false assertion that Paul said that it was 'only possible to enter the third heaven without the body'. Can you see the issues you have.

Yea, issues do arise from now and then...

It is not by force to quote from the Bible. Just tell me that your idea is not Bible based and I would be ok with that answer.[/quote]

justlove91:

If God is love how can he be the creator of hateful, murderous and other negative thoughts.

If you created a game where the players are to supposed to learn vital lessons which you want them to learn, will you exclude the dislike or shoot button and leave only the hug and like button?


Moreover, even conditions you call bad where not created, the membrane of the created universe right from the mental plane to this does not support anything to exist without it's opposite.

The moment any "good" is created is when a bad is created. Actually in another culture or civilization, they do not go with the good/bad categorization, they see both as one and the same stuff with an inherent configuration. Like the exterior of an orange and the content inside.

Are the inhabitants of this city aware of us?

Mostly, yes. They watch us like how we watch other physical beings living with us in the seas, air and land--Souls in animal bodies.

Our scientist in time will develop goggles that enables us see them in the future.

Are they once human that lived on earth or they're another order of beings?

Well, yes and no. They are Souls pulled from different places just like we have Souls on earth pulled from different places like planets, galaxies and dimensions who now come as humans.

Thanks, but I'm more interested in the radio programs.

Here is one Eckankar radio program on Rock fm 92.3 today by 7:30pm-8:00pm

justlove91:

How did those thoughts exist in the first place, did God created them? Including the negative thoughts?

Yes.

Are you refering to what is called the earth plane?

Yes. I am saying Abuja for instance dovetails into another city and exists in same physical location. One is vibrating higher, making it possible for the two cities to seemingly exist in the same place.



Mentions radio stations and time I can tune in listen to eckankar programmes. [/quote]

TV PROGRAM

Theme:
How to Find God

Tv station :
1.DSTV Channel 258

Saturdays 8:30pm to 9pm Nigerian Time.
I will share that of the radio programs when I get one please. Thanks

Michael547:

The problem you have is that you've found fault with every other information on this thread except from the one that you've said from God knows where.

Indeed, from me to the Bible and other sources, God know where they originated from.

If i don't trust the information in the bible, why should I trust yours?

From the onset to no, where did anyone mentioned you trust any external source of information?

Your aim is to make me disbelief the bible just because me and the bible do not support your ideas.

I am merely telling you what I know that I have verified beyond just reading and believing what I do not know or have verified. This is the premise your complications emanates from, which is believing the bible without verification and not opting to believing any thing I say because I did not verify despite this whole thread is actually about not believing anything you have personally not verified.

I'm only In conversation with you on this thread because you said that the bible supports your ideas

Yes, Paul mentioned being caught up in the third heaven which is only possible without the body. The Bible further said "God is spirit, and those who must come to him must come in spirit...". I think these are clear for anyone to see. But you can see yet you see not.

which I've proved you wrong..

So just rest.

Yea, you did prove me wrong in a way only you can.

Michael547:

😂😂ok oo.

Here, you can deduce something:

He didn't say if white people go within themselves into the Holy of Holies, they will be able to prove things for themselves instead of relying on the experiences of others.

Your line of reasoning is awaiting for a black man to be mentioned first, or you are waiting for a black man to be the one speaking...

To whittle it down, the video is saying African forefathers and any other race of humanity use same method to go to the places which people call heaven to see things and report to children of their generation like Chieveboy and so on. Anyone so interested may use same method just like Chieveboy and the African fore fathers.

Paper and ink (Holy Bibles of all religions), Chieveboys, Daddy GOs, The Video above, Paul & Peter, etc may be faulty, inconclusive, right or anything in between and beyond.

I think it is indeed funny you asking me of proof of African fore fathers saying such

A juju you need to investigate is this:

Just like how Chieveboy said something which you needed prove of and he didn't give you, its the same way Paul said something and didn't give you prove of. Both I and all Characters in the Bible didn't give you any prove. We all just said something...

Did you catch anything?

Michael547:


Lol....I must say you are a very interesting person....the man in this your video is neither an African nor did he state any African source of information of which you claimed you got these information from.

At the end of the day you just want to tell me things that I should just swallow and accept. You just want me to ignore Bible's information and take your own information as true.

Just rest sir.....thank you.

...You saw but didn't see...

Michael547:


Lol....I must say you are a very interesting person....the man in this your video is neither an African nor did he state any African source of information of which you claimed you got these information from.

At the end of the day you just want to tell me things that I should just swallow and accept. You just want me to ignore Bible's information and take your own information as true.

Just rest sir.....thank you.

...You saw but didn't see.

Michael547:

How do you know that the soul is not physical and not tangible, does the Bible also support that idea?

Can you please supply the sources of information of these African forefathers that taught you all the things that you've been saying on these thread?

Here you are about sources.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InK9MZh7D6g?si=V8F4Oe_maCgiZYRd

Michael547:

Please kindly tell me where you got the information at the bolded from since you've claimed that the bible is erroneous?

Remind yourself to completely grasp what I said about the bible being erroneous.

I wonder why you think a book written and compiled by humans would be error-free.

Are you saying at the bolded that soul and spirit are the same and that the soul is not tangible according to the Bible?

Spirit an adjective or the word used to describe Soul. Soul is not tangible. The body IT uses is tangible.

What is the source of all these your information about three bodies and different heavens?

From numerous sources ranging from African fore fathers until some people found a way to convince them that they must now become another people (Jews) by faith before they can go where their fathers and even to they themselves visit nightly and call it "dreams".

I advice you stop dishing out so much information without a reference to a source of your information.

How about you make use of this advise instead and quite stopping people from freeing themselves of beliefs they adopted from a bible which itself gave no source of its information other than people speaking about their own personal experiences like me and my sources?

delishpot:


There are rulers above Jehovah?

Sure! But do not throw the baby with the bath water though.

Any ruler below is just the one above Stepping down to create and run a Reality Matrix different from the upper one.

Just do not lose yourself while not throwing the baby with the bath water. All rulers including Satan are all doing a God-given duty and are actually 'God' but not God. By "God", I mean the Supreme Deity which is Nameless, Formless and Endless. Its only quality is LOVE--the unconditional one. Those others are inherently incapable of this.

This leads to the age-old saying: "Man Know thyself"

justlove91:


What do you mean @bolded, my friend that appeared behind the closed door is just there simply because I expect him to, there is no question of him having pure or impure intentions.

I meant if you meet an Eck master in the dream, you sing HU. If they don't burst into oblivion, you met the master you are seeing. This gos for anyone you meet in the inner.

If it appears here in the physical, the chance of anyone impersonating your friends is very very slim. Even at that, the HU is still important.

What do you think will happen if I sing HU in one of my lucid dreams? And do I have to belief in it before it can be effective for me?

You do not need to believe in the HU for it to work for you. In your innermost and purest being or state, that sound frequency is what you are. For now, we need to wait for science to find a way to test these point I am making.

Do you mean that the reason we are able to think or imagine a thing is because that thing already exist or thinking or imagining a thing cause it to exist in the lower world?

Yes, we are able to think it because it exists. I tried to explain how in my recent response to Michael. Right now, we are all swimming in another city, place and Space. This is not even the Astral dimension o, not to talk of the Mental.

These cities and 'places' vibrate higher from what we biologically and morphologically accept as our Reality Index (Focus), but our eyes are not that fast enough to catch a sight of them.

Michael547:

The problem you are having is that you are insisting that the bible supports the idea of a conscious soul that can travel without the body. Till now you've not proved it. Even the apostle Paul that you are quoting never used the word 'soul' in that verse. You claim the bible is erroneous, you are still strongly quoting from it to prove your point.

May I whittle what the translators of the bible call in different occasions "Soul", "Spirit", "Heart" & "Mind":

Most of the time, they mean 'Soul' especially if the object of that sentence grammatically requires a Noun. If you dissect a person, the 'Identity' part of the person is Soul. Not "the soul" or "my soul" as Christians put it. For instance " I am Chieveboy" not "I am my Chieveboy, or I am a Chieveboy". The adjective for Soul is "Spirit".

If you remove Soul from the equation, no body and nothing will exist even Matter itself. This information of course will be alien for anyone whom the 'Parable of the Sower' falls on.

It emanates from advanced information about the constituents of man and is indeed apt given the fact that science for instance has more information about what biologically makes up a man than the Bible, even as Mystics know more than science as to the spiritual constituents of man than mainstream science.

The Bible at the moment is a good source of information, if your optimum goal is to only read where the terms "Soul" "Spirit" and "Mind" is used without further details and grounds for going beyond it. It is a setup where the average readers have swore an oath of no progression seemingly.

Now you've moved from 'soul' to 'spirit'. Are you saying that spirit and soul are the same. Do spirits in heaven have their own bodies?

Soul wears the physical body (among three others) because it is 'Spirit', and God (The Supreme Deity) knows spirits cannot hold physical objects and vice-versa, so a compatible body is availed them. For this reason, God cannot come to the physical else the physical disintegrates while a physical body cannot go to even Mars here...

The other three bodies are the:

1: Astral ( or emotional body) were emotions are derived and is "measurable" with the right scientific tools available today.

2: Causal ( or Destiny-seed Body), the Record and recording house of the body and the universe.

3:Mental ( AKA Mind), which is the 'Firmware' that is used to run all the four bodies.

All these are bodies Soul runs at the same time to while running the Physical body.

These three bodies corresponds to the 3 heavens starting from the Astral, Causal and Mental or 3rd heaven which Paul speaks of.

Also, as everyone is living here in the physical, they are also concurrently living in these heavens at the same time as "being alive" here. The challenge is that 99% of people have what they call their "awareness" indexed or focused only in their index or 'last-body' plane or world which is earth for humans. They only have a slight glimpse of what they are doing in the other worlds when they sleep and wake up to call it a "dream". Most do not make it beyond the first heaven while they dream.

Everything or place in the physical are copied from the first heaven or Astral plane from the remotest village on earth to the best that earth has not seen yet. This is why some ho die go to their village and may not know they are dead had gone to "heaven".

In death, the Physical body is dropped and Soul functions in the Astral body to be able to operate in the 1st heaven. Most people on earth due to ack of information believe this is the final heaven owing to the grandeur, that is if their Love Balance-sheet allows them go to finer parts of this place.

The ruler of this place of course appears majestic beyond words and is the God of most religions because most do not know any better, and this knowledge is no guarantee of going past him. He is the ruler of all worlds below him and appoints the rulers of earth who are responsible to him whether they know so or not.

Michael547:

There you are going back to argue with the bible again even after it has failed your soul without body theory. Just rest if you can't show me a verse that says that the soul is indestructible and cannot die.

I told you that as far as destroying the Soul is concerned, the Bible erred. I tod you that the bible is one compilation of the two extremes and anything between of falsehood, truths and half truths.

On whether Paul was talking of being "caught up into the third heaven..." with the physical body, perhaps what I didn't do was open you head into two to make you see clearly that no one could have visited any planet we know with the physical body talk more of heaven.

I also didn't tell you of the Biblical scripture where it said "God is spirit and those who come must come in spirit...". Like seriously where you waiting to be told which of the two possibilities of in the body or out of it happened?

justlove91:


I'm a lucid dreamer and one thing I have learnt in my practice is how expectation shapes the content of the dream. For example, if I expect a friend I wish to see to be behind a closed door, he will be there, but I know that "friend" is just a projection from me, a thought form.

Now, instead of a friend let's assume I intend to encounter an Eck Master upon opening the door, he will also be there.

The question now is, is that a real Eck Master or a thought form created by my expectation.

What you saw is real as far as reality in the lower world is concerned where Thought Substance is the building block of everything. What perhaps you need to do next is sing HU whenever you meet anyone in the inner plane. They remain if they are of pure intentions.

We must not forget the law of imagination or thought, which is that no one can ever imagine or think of anything that does not exist.

This can be a mind-twister considering if you think your friend is is coming, it is real and if you think he is going at that same time. In programming, thought can be likened to the concept of Variables and their declaration...

For manifestation, "expectation" is one of the forces at play that pulls those thoughts to the thinker. There are other part of the constituents for manifestation.

Michael547:

😂😂😂.....you just claimed that science supports its claims by evidence and you are saying that you don't know if their conclusions is right?
Na wa oo....after all the evidence they've shown you😂😂?

There are quite a handful of scientific proof on OBEs. I am not sure if its lazinessiness keeping you from using your hands to check online instead of waiting to be spoon-fed or it's just a this 'wisdom' in thinking when we don't submit such work to you, you're now Super the Black Power and such information does not exist.

To be candid, I for one didn't furnish you any scientific proof simply because so far, you have not demonstrated deductive -reasoning capacity even right from the Bible in the case of Paul talking about visiting heaven without the body.

Despite all other scriptures which clearly lets you know flesh and blood cannot visit heaven, you preferred the 'small wins' that came with my reluctance to indulge your ignorance.

justlove91:


Ok sha.

You didn't answer my previous question.

Is lucid dream the same as what you call soul travel.

Yes it is. The Lucidity is what differentiates Dreaming from Soul Travel.
One misconception is that feeling of getting out of the body is compulsory. It is not.

The advanced stage of Soul Travel does not involve getting out of the body or that feeling. With eyes wide open, you 'collapse sight' (as a matter of saying) to See and Know instantly. Chances are everyone had had this experience before.

justlove91:


I hear you, but when the Christians start accusing you of cherry picking bible verses you should not blame them.

Lol, they will get enlightened about that book.

Everyone goes home with some more Something.

justlove91:


Do it adherents believe it's open source, moreover if you quote a bible verse to buttress your point you're in essence saying that your point is true because the bible also agrees with it.

I suggest you grasp the earlier response especially about the classification of 'quoting'. A dead giveaway is a criminal's words are quoted against them. In this line of reasoning, the moment a criminal is quoted, it becomes "truth" as you would have it?

Whereas truth is truth whether bible agrees with it or not.

Indeed! This means wherever the bible contains anything to be true, it may be quoted without prejudice..

It's better to buttress your points by pointing out that anyone can verify the truth of your claims by learning soul travel instead of quoting the bible.

This is not how things work unfortunately. One will understand netter if "anchor points" are used in this case texts from the Christian Bible.

Moreover as i told you earlier, The texts within that book where never orginally written as contribution for a certain "Bible".

This means someone felt people need anchor points and took the liberty of compiling notes and letters to make one.

Lastly: I think you and Michael will get this whole "Bible quote' thing better if you reread the context and even the tone the bible was quited. You will see something completely different.

Michael547:

Lol....why were you arguing that your idea was biblical in the first place?

read my response to the guy above. it explains everything

Michael547:

Lol...ok...so you could not even bring out the answer from the video.

It is only a common law of intelligence that one reads and understand the gist of a thread first before questioning it and not the other way round as in this case where you want me to start all over again feeding you answers.