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Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣You need some rest bro.

I edited the earlier reply ito a lay mans level.

I hope you get it now.

Truthseeker10:
What is the meaning of your explanation above?

You asked me to provide evidence that you compared your philosophical ideas of states of consciousness to science and I just did.

So what does your explanation above say about your "absolute consciousness" gimmick? Or we should just swallow as usual?

Yea, understanding is indeed a issue. Its why it can be tasky.

Sum means "physics" also means physical property. Not a subject in class only and not a scientific discipline

Truthseeker10:
Below in bold is your statement:

"In their respective states, pain, suffering, joy and all emotions can be seen as states of physics like gravity (when physical) and could have an emotive quality when felt with the emotions. In themselves, they are not "pain" or "suffering" for the sake of the emotion involved."

According to your statement above, pain, suffering, joy and all emotions can be seen as states of what?

I see. Lets step it down.

1: movement is a state or aspect of mechanics

Mechanics is mechanics. Its not inherently a course in university. If University people study it, thats when it became a discipline of study.

Its like saying Dancing. Dancing is dance, and there are several types. If Dance is a course in a university, please let people be aware it is basically dance also.

So physics is physics. Its derived from the word "physical" and in this case, its also defined as "The physical properties, phenomena of something".

This is saving you the possible trauma of making out when a noun us in its Proper state or not, via capitalization and also Pragmatic end-use.

Truthseeker10:
Lol....just when you realized that your explanations makes no sense you resort to diversion.

You were the one who used science to compare your ideas of states of consciousness. After scrutiny, you suddenly had no scientific explanation of consciousness. We should just swallow your jargons and make sense out of your consciousness/"absolute consciousness" gimmick.

Interesting. My assumption about your mental capacity at basic understanding and a perturbation of it is yielding results.

You were the one who used science to compare your ideas of states of consciousness

Starting with this, can you kindly provide a quote where this happened? Do well to explain to us how you understood or misunderstood the instance the above occurred.

You are actually the teacher and we are here to learn from you today.

Truthseeker10:
You just claimed that my experience is me being conscious. So kindly tell us about this your over-consciouness. Who or what is it?

Still no definitive response. If you have nothing of your own, how do we even begin to put things together into your head? Its an effort in futility.


If you want proper "teaching" as you call it, you have to among others:

1: Display capacity to be teachable

2: ...and or display capacity to understand and research.

3: Then you open a thread for it with a suitable subject header and invite others as a challenge or open discussion as deemed fit.


But then criterias 1 and 2 need to be met first especially if you are involving me in it.

Truthseeker10:
I don't have one. You are actually my teacher here. Now answer.

okay.

So if "consciousness" is me having an experience according to you, who or what is this your "absolute consciousness"?

First lets deal with the "according to you". Asides scientific definition or explanation of consciousness, do you personally have one? A personal explanation of consciousness.

If not, are you conscious?

Truthseeker10:
So if "consciousness" is me having an experience according to you, who or what is this your "absolute consciousness"?

Lets make it interactive. We have already derailed the thread.

You asked a question and I answered. I asked a question and you did not answer but moved to another.

Kindly provide us with a scientific definition of consciousness and source if you have one. Then we deal with your question.

Truthseeker10:
Can you kindly define what "consciousness" on it own mean according to science today? Because it seems that you are just dishing out words for fun.

I dont have a scientific definition of consciousness. If you do, please present it and possibly the source.

In the mean sense, consciousness is simply the subjective awareness of having an experience. In other words being aware that you are aware or conscious.

Truthseeker10:
So what is the origin of these states of consciousness

Over- consciousness or Absolute Consciousness itself . Call it God if you will.

The states of consciousness are the micro sub parts.

Think of it as a full human body and the billions of cells which in turn form organs which in turn form systems and so on. Each cell is a state of the full body.

A combination of cells even work to generate electricity in the body. Some simply make up a strand of hair.

I am one of the few who like him.

Not from the social or moral angle though

gbolaben:
I actually understand your perspective and am not inherently against it. Viewing pain, joy, and experience as neutral states of consciousness or balance within a universe of duality is a fascinating way to analyze existence on a purely theoretical or metaphysical level.

However, where my work and focus lie is in the immediate, practical reality of human lives.
While abstract philosophy views suffering as a neutral frequency or law of physics, millions of people around the world are actively trapped in manipulative religious systems that treat suffering as a divine requirement.

They are explicitly taught that their pain is a test, that hardship is a badge of honor, and that they should passively endure poverty, sickness, and oppression rather than taking action to improve their circumstances all because they are holding out for a promised future paradise.

That kind of indoctrination completely destroys human agency. It convinces people that striving for real-world success, financial stability, health, and personal fulfillment today is pointless or even sinful.

So while I respect the philosophical concept of duality, my priority isn't debating abstract states of consciousness, it's helping people break free from religious paralysis, take control of their own lives, and build a successful, meaningful reality right now.

Appreciate your direction.

There is a catch though which might make the religious folks right in a sense.

By the time you investigate the role these neutral forces play, you will see that

They are explicitly taught that their pain is a test, that hardship is a badge of honor

comes out practically correct. Every distracting force is what is needed to achieve focus and every downward pull is the springboard for an upward push. So yes, hardship is a "test" borrowing the religious perspective


The exception though would be the passive state practitioners fall into. The effects of the forces of physics gives zero room for passivity and inaction.

gbolaben:
This is an interesting perspective, and you’re absolutely right on one major point: the biblical stories were adapted from much older traditions and religions, which is why treating them as absolute, ultimate truth falls apart under scrutiny.

Where we might differ is that whether someone views "God and Satan" as literal spiritual beings, ancient space beings, or symbolic archetypes of dualism, the main problem remains the same: people use these stories to justify human suffering and promote passivity.

My article focuses on the real-world impact of these beliefs. When people are taught that suffering is just an inevitable part of a cosmic balance or a fight between higher powers, it stops them from taking control, solving real problems, and building a better life today.

Regardless of how the story originated, we shouldn't let ancient narratives dictate our potential or cause us to passively accept hardship.

Very well.

If we want a much more truer perspective about suffering and pain, we need to revisit and observe them closely away from the religious paintings of the terms and condition then.

That said, suffering, pain, wealth, joy etc are 'states of conciousness' and are independent of any religious attachment. They did not come about because of religion.

In their respective states, pain, suffering, joy and all emotions can be seen as states of physics like gravity (when physical) and could have an emotive quality when felt with the emotions. In themselves, they are not "pain" or "suffering" for the sake of the emotion involved.

Think of every emotion or thing as existing like the strings in a guitar. Play the thicker one and you get a certain sound or condition in outputs your senses processes. If you like it its =pain, else=pleasure

Have a field day playing with the concept of duality or twos. Things existing as result of their opposites.

The issue is coming from half knowledge copied into the Bible. Recall that story was not a Christian story, it was from another religion which the folks who formed Christianity decided to copy.


Mankind called the space beings who came to earth "God".

The story of Lucifer and God is an account of disagreement between one of them (Lucifer) and the King who the Israelis referred to as God.

Before that disagreement, conditions for suffering is already in place. A dead give-away is that the world was already one of duality where if a liquid existed ("water covering earth" ), then there must be a solid.

So if you keep building this dual relationships like liquid/solid, pain/joy, sickness/health, mountain/valley, enemy/friend, etc. You find that they self-explain that suffering/joy, fight/reconciliation already existed and the quarrel between 'God/Satan' did not commence it.


All existed before their fight, and they are not the only advanced beings in the universe. There are others more majestic and God-like than those who made men in their image and likeness.

Again,that they fought and got tempted in the first place-means temptation, jealousy, etc already exists, this is why they could experience it and have a fight or issues with one another. More so, what is the guarantee that was not the first time?

Oracleee:
What do you know, Na cheap data I Blame .

like I said...

Oracleee:
Na why I dey laugh when I read comments about the increment. But not everything can be said sha.

"The poor will always be with you" means even if soldiers are paid with kidnapper's ransom, some will still lack or complain.

I hope you guys have the interest of our food security, genetic integrity and reproductive capacity at heart?

We dont want to find out you have sold us to Bill Gates and other organizations we do not know of.

AMINDA:
Apologies. I didn't know he was caught smashing your wife. That sucks!

ah, this one def got the memo now

FuckFuckPastor:
https://x.com/SKwaith/status/2104257052503933203

You are too naive for including the kaduna man in that list or you seriously want to take the country backwards.

jmoore:
Many Nigerians don't even know that Chinese have a cement company in Nigeria.

Lafarge cement was acquired by Huaxin Cement Co. Ltd, having purchased 83.81% stake of the company.

Whenever the high price of cement is discussed in Nigeria, most will accuse Dangote for being exploitative. But we have other cement companies in Nigeria, including the one owned by Chinese.

Cheap goods are sometimes associated with Chinese companies. So why isn't this Chinese cement company crashing the price of cement in Nigeria?

Because cement is not banned for import or so.

This is beautiful. Sound stirs Soul.

The Soul being operated is behind their actions. They probably didnt realize.

Soul is the Holy Spirit itself.

Randigital, the justification for murdering, robbing foreigners and stealing their property is not about jealousy, its because they are undocumented like this lecturer.


South Africans are hardworking, never lazy, are not drug addicts, not robbers and so on...

Apcshit:
They should allow the man rest.Didnt tinubu do worse?

imagine, black man for you. Tomorrow you will go online complaining of bad governance...

favor914:
Isn’t this the Alhaji that Gringory Obi paid a visit to a few weeks ago

The man threw the country into darkness just so he will build houses and get money he can never finish spending.

I wonder how people reason.

Sheuns:
You justify a person that served as governor for max 8 years to get billions in retirement benefits but the cleaner that worked for 35 years should get a few millions that won’t even be paid to him at lump sum?

Teachers that gave their lives to serve for 35 years do not deserve decent retirement benefits?

Despite all the salaries and allowances the man made as governor, which is more than any teacher can make in 35 years by a large margin you still justify why he should take billions in pension?

Yep!

Eveyone and everything is in its rightfull place.

There can never be such a thing as utopia or equality in nature, the social and economic spheres. It simply is not humanly or naturally possible.

You obviously are reasoning from a kpaffed up data and would feel "oh no 30 years, 5k salary, oh no".

He who wants to sleep with the queen should become a king, and there can only be one king while everyone and everything remains in their rightfull place for each event and occurrence of action and reaction.

Life balance if you look at it critically.

Sheuns:
So what’s leadership?

Giving yourself crazy pensions and gratuity after serving just for 4 or 8 years, while those that served for 35 years get peanuts that’s not able to buy one of the 6 cars you get every 4 years?

Well this gratuity disparity thing is lart of leadership. The CEO and other top management staff get paid based on this. So a cleaner who worked 50 years will definitely not be paid same as the MD.

Very good viewpoint. This though doesnt make you a good leader.

Leadership is not all these nice facades and beautiful nonsenses like leaving money behind in a bank while institutions and people suffer

Sabadon:
A living legend I stan, though he has his flaws we love him regardless..... real OG before IG

Aren't flaws supposed to be what composes the full package?

I speak of the connotation in your presentation.

Merlissa:
Imagine walking into a supermarket and seeing this on the shelf.

Amala Cup.

Inside, you get amala with separate sachets of ewedu, gbegiri, stew and assorted meat.

Add hot water, mix everything, and your amala is ready in a few minutes.

No pot. No turning amala. No buka. No waiting.

Before you shout "God forbid!", remember that people once thought many traditional foods could never become convenience products.

We now have instant noodles, instant oats, powdered pap, frozen soups and ready-to-eat meals.
So why can't amala be next?

Imagine this for office workers, students, travellers and Nigerians living abroad who want amala but cannot start looking for ewedu and gbegiri.

Some people will say this is destroying the experience of eating proper amala.
Others will say whoever successfully commercialises something like this could have a serious business on their hands.
So forget sentiment for a minute.

If this exact pack was sitting in Boku for ₦2,500, would you buy it?
And if you are NOT buying it, tell us why.

Good business idea or complete nonsense?

Disclaimer: This product is not real. It is a concept created as part of my What If? Brand Edition series to explore product innovation and Nigerian consumer behaviour.

You are not the first to present this idea.

Adoption is your blocker and this will be tougher if you want quickies or as could be in this case: going for the big shots like Amala and other 'tougher meals'.

While this can be pulled off, I will 'train' consumers with'easier meals' if the Amala stunt doesnt go well.

You only need to look at the blockers and joy killers for people who try. This may include hot water in the wrong places, taste not tasting, user's fault shifting to you, etc and find ways to mitigate.


From where I stand, your preservation method and letting consumers know what it is will eat your client's budget. I feel you know this...

this one self, we havent come in

Well, her own is that anyone that corrects you is exhibiting "maturity",well to a large extent, true. But then there is more to maturity and "getting sense" than those.

Cultists do advise their younger ones to stay off cultism you know. This doesnt stop them from being cultists still...so?