From the attached image of just a portion of observable universe, we see that we can't even find earth.

Despite this, God (the supreme deity) KNOWs everything that goes on their 100%.

This includes every prayer. This is why no one actually should pray for and on you. God is Omnipresent.

Why any one suffers or does not have their prayers answered is a different explanation entirely.

The negative power becomes more potent when the mean average of a population decides to go the direction of these cunning spirits who are masters at their game.

More so is when a people fail to go to God directly but sell their birthrights to the lower astral entities for crumbs of bread.

The problem with any form of voodoo technically lies in the aura it comes with.

Some of you might have noticed people who are possessed tend to emit a pungent odour...this is because a pungent person you can't see is also around.

When the forces of the Lower astral plane becomes the main 'sustaining power' of a country, person or planet, the whole people in it suffer. The general aura becomes dark and the pure light of God is sidelined.

Electricity keeps failing, kidnapping, accidents and all manner of negativities find leeway to manifest easily.

This is purely the law of physics at play. Just a little bit beyond the scope of conventional science.

My main goal is to put out information about the issue with subscribing to voodoo under any guise.


'Voodoo': "An arrangement with powerful discarnate entities (AKA Demons) to control the forces of nature for certain effects".

Voodoo for the information of Christians especially, can be used to 'heal' people and perform "miracles" using the name of Jesus.

I wish people would surf YouTube and watch the several videos where Bisola Heph-zibah made some confessions that any reasonable person won't just brush aside as lies.

Below is one of such:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6HGHxZD8yc?si=Qy_LXuutZH0_KjhV

In the video above, Fatai (His actual name) allegedly bragged that he "offed" Bishop Benson Idahosa after the later mentioned "TB Joshua is my boy", talking about who has the most 'Power'.

DyingFetus:
All ISPs made some updates to their stack


So there was a series of issues from no network to dreading of spx which has been resolved


Enable airplane mode and disable



From infrastructure engineer , NCC

Let's ignore the technical explanation above and look into this deeply.

The telcos might have colluded with the NCC to play a fast one on Nigerians. Billions would be generated.

For instance, the screenshot below is an example. While I never subscribed to the service, the number to "STOP AD" was cynically omitted. With millions of people generating NGN5 daily, you would be surprised at the figures the scam will generate.

Note for some, the NGN5 is negligible and MTN knows this. This will generate billions for them in no time.

Peledonomy:


You still don't see it yet?

I see where you pasted a link to an external resource. I didn't see where you provided answer to wether the men who wrote the new testament are not as fallible as the ones who wrote the old one.

I've never met anyone so dumb in eckankar. Your grand master must be thinking of ways to discipline you for this disgraceful comment.

Now you're talking...

This is what you should have done since, and you were wasting your time trying to be who you are not

Your questions are prove that you want to know about Christianity. You were never a part of Christ Embassy man. I'm not their member, but I have to assume that even they could have provided you with such easy and simple answers.

And since you didn't have answers, why waste time trying to give one?

Take me for example. I have not asked anything about eckankar because I know its rubbish. It's dung..

Lmao
Okay I won't ask you tough questions again

You keep asking questions about Christianity because you want to know more. You are clearly hungry and I have pointed you to where you can have food.

Okay i will go and get answers there. I will tell him you said the writers of the old testament didn't know what they were doing, Jesus came and corrected their nonsense when another set of men jotted down what Jesus said.

Humble yourself

For sure now

Serious humility for your wisdom and knowledge that stretched from the south-east to Namibia .

I will teach you.

Is it not you again ? The greatest teacher alive.

You will be the one to teach me, but it's the guy at Living word media that will do the talking . Baddesss

dalongjnr:

I have never been to scoan. I once in a while watch Emmanuel TV.
Accusations like these are not new,when he was alive. Just Google the controversies of prophet TB Joshua.
Not was proven and this can't be!
Dead men,tell no tale!

I have been there.

Subscribe to a data plan. You can start there

Peledonomy:




You've gotta confess. You couldn't poke me like you did the other guys. No wonder you're resorting to these stale tricks.

Continue with your tomfoolery. I ain't responding anymore. I dey find money. Do you or your grandmasters have any one for me?

Poke what really

You actually performed worse man!!!

You threw the whole gospel into the gutters and you are jubilating .

You said the first testament was written by people who didn't get it or made mistakes so Jesus has to come and correct whatever was said or done wrong. Fine.

You forgot that Jesus never wrote even a single comma in the new testament by himsaelf, it was fallible men who wrote it.

Fallible men who couldn't at a point write the events of Jesus correctly or agree on what actually transpired.

The big question you didn't answer is if the men who wrote the new testament where dipped in special oil to keep them from making same mistakes of their predecessors.

If that happened, we will ask you how come the gospel of Mr A and Mr B regarding same event came out different.

This is not even going to answering who asked who to compile the Holy books of Judaism and combine it with notes from Paul et all to make a new book from as an official Christian book

Peledonomy:


I expected this exact response. It means you are hungry for more of what I have. Living word media is there to satisfy your hunger.

Back then in school, I knew this eckist. I wasn't spiritually aware like I am today.

I s
Always listened to him because he sounded so true and genuine. After a while, I left for 6 months I. T.


One guy came to preach to me and I was giving him the eckankar vibes. The little I knew then, just like you are doing now. I was trying to enlighten him. After 30 minutes of listening to the guy, I knew he had something superior. He introduced me to living word media.


Came back hot on fire after listening to living word media daily for 6 months.

The eckankar guy was now the one seeking enlightenment from me.

Oga. If you know what you have is superior, just jump on that site.

You go know say enlightenment no dey eckankar.

Living word media. Org

Hungry ?? Yuck!

You certainly are disconnected...

Peledonomy:


Well sir. I can see that you are ready to learn. Quickly jump to living word media and feed on the numerous messages there. It will clear your doubts.

Eckankar dey play for wia enlightenment dey.

Yea, I expected a retreat.

illicit:
There's one called banilla

Local man

dalongjnr:
Every time, it's one allegation or the other, but it was never proven.
These allegations are fabricated or they are sponsored by the people who are surprised that his church is still standing, after his dead.

Did you watch the documentary? Have you been to the church before?

Peledonomy:




Oops. There is no hope for you Sir.

Kindly get a refund from all the schools you attended.

Oh, I see you're being impressed with highly intellectual performance .

You're really putting a show I assure you.

Did God write the book of isaiah? Did God use his hands to write those things?


Haba na. Everything in the Bible was documented by men. Men are fallible.

The only infallible personality in the Bible is Jesus.

Even angels are fallible.

The Bible is only true to the degree which it agrees to Jesus.

Wow, I never knew Christians could mention the writers of the bible were fallible.

1: So what of the writers of the the words attributed to Jesus?

2: What assurances do we have that Jesus actually said what he supposedly said and was written by fallible men?

Words like "he will save you from your sin and all that.

3: What does Jesus mean when he said he came to fulfill the law not abolish it?

Keywords: Fullfil and Abolish.

Jesus corrected Moses, Elijah, Isaiah, Job, David, Solomon

Man. The list is endless.

He also upheld the truth in their teachings.

That is why the new testament tilts to the teachings of Jesus.

Infact, the new testament writings explains the old testament in the light of Christ.

The 'Fallible' factor applies here, what yardstick are we to use to determine which one is correct and which one was inserted by men.

So yea. Jesus corrected those statements they made on behalf of God.

So Bro relax. If na Bible u wan learn, I dey for u

1: Who or what authority compiled the Bible?

As in who said the holy book of another religion for instance (Judaism's Old Testament) be inserted into the Christian Bible? Because the Bible didn't exist in the time of Jesus.

Who made a list of the books to be compiled and be made the Holy Book of Christians?

Dtruthspeaker:


Every reasonable person can see thst I did not insult anybody up and down. It is the pain from the sword of Truth that is making you cry.

Secondly, if any Christian needed explanation he would ask questions but they don't which is why it is only you Satanists who are complaining here talking off point.

You don't have any valid thing to say here but to show the world that you are truly a Satan worshipper.

I agree with everything you said here

That your sword of truth is really sharp o

Peledonomy:



I never said he changes sir.

If Jesus comes to correct the Impression they had about God, it doesn't mean God changed. I thought you are smart sir.

They had a wrong impression, wrote things based on their impression, and Jesus came to correct them.

He came to show that rather than God killing, he would die for man.

Jesus changes everything they thought they knew about God.

If you don't know this, then you don't know the Bible.

Let's go over some elementary classes.

Oh okay, my apologies please. Let me try to be smart then

This means Jesus even came to correct the direct statements God made like in Isaiah 45:7 ?

Because that verse isn't like someone thought or assumed God said he created Evil and Destruction itself... it's written in the First-person tense.

Dtruthspeaker:


Do you see yourself? Now you are switching post talking more rubbish.

Every reasonable person especially christians understands that life is stop and go, do and don't do, good and evil with their balance thereof but obviously since you Satanists are full of evil,and therefore lopsided and biased, therefore you can not understand balance nor understand life, so you people nearly always think and speak wrongly hence why reasonable people will call you people stupid.

Lol, I don't understand why you devolve to breaking more of Biblical Scripture by insulting up and down

You didn't make time to explain what Christians should do when there is an opportunity for amebo (gossip) and busy-body while calling it "bringing of light to evil..." and when someone is supposed to obey the scripture that says "Judge not". What should Christians do?

Jesus even went further to ask some group of randy Amebotic and idle busy-body guys who wanted to "bring light to the evil" of one woman in the bible by stoning her, he gave them a simple assignment and they all vanished.

Please edify us with the word of the Lord. I know it's upsetting but just try.

Dtruthspeaker:


Is it shocking that Satan worshippers like you Lie in defence of their twisting brother?

John 7:24/ Ephesians 5:11-12 are also in the bible and they were very clear and direct .Saying expose evil and judge righteously.

THIS JUDGMENT MATTER DEY PAIN DEVIL PEOPLE WELL WELL!

From the two contrasting scriptures, we have in our hands a case of contradiction. In this case, Christians are free to transgress either Scriptures.

Reminds me of the other religion. It says kill them all here, and leave them all in another. This breeds terrorism.

Peledonomy:


Well, if Jesus links back to the big man in Gen to malachi, it changes everything.


Look at what John will say after listening to jesus christ. He tries to correct the impression found in Isaiah 45 vs 7.

"He changeth not "

John 1:5-7 KJV
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Refer to the above please.

Peledonomy:
Chieveboy, I see what you are doing here. Trying to use the writings of the prophetic scriptures (gen to malachi) to whoop the assess of these folks.


Well, a lot of those places you are quoting were debunked by Jesus, John, and Paul.

By the way, you are right. God has no business with anger. Anywhere you see killings or anger in the scriptures, it wasn't God. It was the men exhibiting their emotions and calling it God.

I mean it's pretty obvious if you study Jesus or Paul.

Anyways flex ur win with these guys.

Well, if anything, Jesus links back to big man in Genesis-Mallachi doesn't he...that's by they way though because that doesn't change anything...

My major grouse is the ignorance involved in someone coming to force something I know to be several miles inferior to the truth I stand for down my throat.

No issues...none stood a chance after all...

Dtruthspeaker:


Thank God that every one can see that you are the devil, the twisting serpent who speaks!

I never even post the article o but see as devil don run come twist am!

Forget, that quote you're condemning is actually pointing your whole thread back at you, as far as those who follow bible
and your topic are concerned.

It's actually a classic display of the irony involved. A classic proverb has it that "Sin is a mountain that you have to stand on to see those of others".

Where is the twisting? The Bible was very clear and direct "Judge Not!...".

You transgressed the instruction by openly promoting the disobedience of that scripture and cynically failing at hoodwinking is to reason with you.

Lordreed caught you in the act by bringing your own devil to light and you are saying he twisted it . What do you Christians take people for

Sheh you see why they say "judge not"

sgtponzihater1:
The God of the Jews is the only God there is, all other Gods are the figment of human imagination. Any believe that seeks to elevate man beyond being a creature is of the devil.

There is only one creator and God, we as humans are His subject and creation.

Trampling God under foot in a quest for higher power walking on a slippery slope.

Fortunately, Eckankar doesn't place Soul above the Supreme Deity.

ItShallPass:


Smiling.

I have observed in this world that people know only within the parameters of their experiences. The ignorant do think he knows until he's proven otherwise.

This statement ironically defines you and all the ignorant statements and assertion you've been making here. You recall how you thought Eckankar was a person or deity ?

From our discussions, you've made reference to human godship severally. Are you saying it wasn't Eckankar that thought you so? Or you want to live in denial?

Why should I deny lol? Here again, you displayed stark ignorance of the whole point Jesus was trying to make his followers know which is that they are actually mini God. He expressly stated "...Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" (John 10:34).

I am sure you didn't make sense of that scripture. Your lot don't do well with understanding, they prefer religious/emotional banditry...

Perhaps you need to really study the Bible well and get the spirit of the letter and not the other way round.

don't All satanic religions give man some sense of godship. All what you call spirit guides and masters are all demons. I dwell in the Light and can tell you that categorically because I deal with demons. I cast them out of people in the mighty name of Jesus. What I'm saying to you is out of love for your soul. You've been deceived my brother.

Hahahaha, this is most hilarious. You sound like if you label anything satanic, I will scamper and hide .

Here is something you should do instead, go look for a big mirror. A very big one. Now stand before it and have a good look. Whatever you see is actually the "Satanic", it is what you should be casting actually.

I have explained Isaiah 45:7 severally in previous posts. I'm sure you're either not reading my responses or demons are working willy nilly to immediately steal the information from your heart.

You want me to explain Isaiah 45:7 again for the umpteenth time?

Yes, explain again because you never did. Screenshot and attach if you ever did.

Heck I doubt if you even can because you have serially demonstrated phenomenal levels of lack of comprehension of the Bible for starters not mention teaching it. Like I said, you kind do well in spiritual/religious banditry however.

You remind me of a friend back in school. If it's about praying funny and noisy prayer, you will think he is Zebrudaya the prophet, but Emeka come and preach, my guy went blank. He was really just pouring his ignorance into the ether and we thought he was a powerful Christian.

I also asked you what you personally know about the doctrines or anything else about Eckankar, clearly you don't know any!!!. So from what information are you attacking it? Answer is speculation and lots of ignorance. Yikes!

[quote author=ItShallPass post=127815699]

Eckankar knows whom Jehovah truly is but Eckankar would lie to you about Jehovah
Please help me understand, Jehovah in Isaiah 45:7 expressly tells you he is actually the one who CREATED evil and destructive itself. How did ECKANKAR now lied about it ?

Okay here is what we should do: Interprete the chapter for us so we settle the matter.


quote]...He tries to let you see yourself as the god of yourself

Just look at stark ignorance. No wonder...so all this whole, you believe Eckankar was somebody ? This is actually the problem with you lot. You attack everything you don't know.

For your information, "ECK" means Holy Spirit, "Ankar" means the way.


[quote] while you deny your Creator and give honour to spirit beings whom God has made lesser than you. Did he not say the same thing to Eve? "If you eat this fruit, your eyes shall be opened (you would be enlightened), and you would be as gods...' It's the same old tactics. Nothing new. By preaching enlightenment and the opportunity to become a god to you, he steals you away from your Maker while also maligning your Creator unto you, denying His Godship and making a mockery of His love.

Your ignorance about the teachings of Eckankar indeed is legendary. My issue however is:

Question1: why did you chose to attack something based on ignorance?

Question 2:
What do you know about Eckankar?

God loves you nonetheless. No matter what Eckankar has told you, if you spread your hands to Jesus today, you would know the true God for yourself and discover that He is far fetched from all those things you have heard about Him.

Very funny. I can assure you that even the two-headed God you worship, you know absolutely nothing about him. It's all a matter of belief it is for you.

Ignorance, ignorance, ignorance. The output for this disease is exactly what you have been spewing here. When Christianity drops this disease of ignorance, it will become this path that Jesus Christ walked and even more.

ItShallPass:


1. Stop sugar quoting the words. To disapprove of something to the extent of chastising a child about it means you actually dislike what the child is doing. You hate it. Do you disapprove of murder, armed robbery or infidelity? You actually hate them. Don't tell me you're simply not in agreement with those vices. You'll probably give up all you have to ensure your children don't do any of such . And you hate your excreta as well. I'm sure you wouldn't want it anywhere near your plate of food. This back and forth is unnecessary. It is very clear that emotions have context. And by their context, they could either be good or bad.

2. Again, hate, jealousy and anger are emotions defined within their contexts. Stop pretending you don't know. You were jealous over your wife, that's why you thought she might be done with her marriage to you a d so much leave in peace. You saw also the good that can be derived from destruction when destroying the unpleasant to plant the pleasant. And of cause anger too can be used as a motivational force to right wrongs. Hate the evil but love the good. The emotions are only defined within contexts and you have been unable to disprove me contextually.

3. Eckankar did not write Isaiah 45:7 but deceitfully interpreted it. I have given you the right interpretation. A nice King, no matter how nice he is, would have both prisons and banqueting halls. A king is a judge in his own land. How much more the King of kings? The judge of the whole earth has light for the law keepers and darkness for law breakers. Good for those who do well, a evil for the evil workers.

4.


If you're saying using jealousy, anger and hate to perpetrate an act is evil, then you're talking within specific contexts. Now, within a specific context of rebuilding your home, you have see
the positive sides of destruction. Myy argument with you are based on jealousy, anger and hate alone because these 3 have contextual derivations just like destruction. Unlike Evil and Envy whose contexts are 100% unacceptable.

5.

Would you show me proof that the Almighty God did this? Give me biblical accounts where God Almighty ordered mass murders over jealousy, anger and hate.

Man does evil out of his own volition. God never said He created evil. Stop reading the Bible upside down. 'I the Lord do all these things' is not the same as 'I the Lord created all these things '. God was talking about what He does to the righteous and wicked. He wasn't talking about what He created.

6.

Man does not own the world as well as his own breath. He's free to worship whosever he wills to worship but in the end he'll be accountable to the 'He' who created the Universe and owns it. He'll be accountable to the One who gave him the breath of his nostrils.

Again, any god that cannot judge the righteous and the wicked is not the Creator of this world and therefore does not deserve to be worshipped.

Before Isaiah 45:7 was written, Eckankar knows who Jehova truly is.

Now that your eyes are clearly you want to really start asking serious questions about what you think you knew .


I rest my case.

Dtruthspeaker:


The only True meaning is it's noun meaning which is the practice and study and use of witchcraft which you have proven you and your group of secrets society teach. All the other meanings are shits used to cover people like you and your group who wish topractice witchcraft..

And Jesus did not do this

Noun
mystical, supernatural, or magical powers, practices, or phenomena.
"a secret society to study alchemy and the occult"

I see.

Dtruthspeaker:


Continue blaspheming

Tell me Jesus didn't exhibit any of the qualities in the below definition of occult

ProudWitch:
You're welcome.


Okay, so I started my spiritual journey last year, I tried meditating and I saw the impact, it was nice. But I wasn't consistent and the type of environment I find myself in doesn't make it easy to focus most times. So I thought, okay, when I leave my environment I'll start my spiritual journey afresh. But I keep craving that deep knowledge almost everyday, so I've decided that I shouldn't have to wait till I leave now, I could learn now and practice later.

So far, all I've done is meditating.

Oh cool. Try the HU sound singing (pronounced "Hue) in a long drawn-out manner. Try to put your attention or all of you in the spiritual eye area. Do this for 30min max before sleep.

You don't have to sing it aloud if there are people that may be disturbed.

It is way more advanced than meditation. If you have a profound experience, you want to write it down so get a diary app or a book for recording them.

Please note your experiences are confidential to you. Only share if it's absolutely necessary.

Cheers

[quote author=ItShallPass post=127796106]



But, why chastise a child if you do not hate what the child is doing? You chastise the child because you love the child and hate the wrong things the child is doing.

I donts hate what the child is doing. I disapprove or simply do not agree or want to encourage that. Please look up the definition of "Hate".

You're talking about habitual irresponsible emotions. The type of emotions you described above are contextual.

No, it doesn't have to be habitual. "It's my first time" and you're caught right in the act. Anger, Hate and other strong negative emotions is their spiritual battery. This is what Jesus means by the "the devil is roaming about looking for whom to devour". The demons lurk around people looking for any given chance.

Contrary to what Eckankar told you about the Creator of the universe in relation to Isaiah 45:7,[quote]

Oga hold it dia . Contrary to what contrary? The Bible said it's God is the very creator of good and evil itself and you want to white wash again is the biblical God not God and Satan

[quote]I have given you a heads-up to make you see the lie in Eckankar's version.

When did Eckankar wrote Isaiah 45:7? What lie is it when Eckankar corroborates Isaiah 45:7?

You've not answered the questions I asked you regarding this section of the discussion. Would call a judge evil for condemning a law breaker to prison?

You're funny. We're saying using anger, hate, jealousy and envy to conduct or perpetrate an act is what amounts to "evil". In your next response, please Get yourself a dictionary and give us the definition of Evil, Jealousy, Hate, Envy and Anger.

If a judge passes a sentence, he isn't doing that angrily. If I uproot weed I am not doing it out of jealousy, anger or hate, neither is the judge in that court room of yours above.

It is a different ball game entirely if a judge maliciously or out of jealousy sentences one, or I put of hate or anger uproot that very earlier weed.

Now if you say the Lord ordered mass murder, who are those concerned? The righteous or the wicked? Is it wrong for God to judge evil doers?

Ordering mass murder even by man's standard over jealousy, anger or hate is babaric. It's more so if you consider that he created the very evil (Isaiah 45:7) he is murdering people over. What's the idea?

Man in civilized and spiritually matured setting gave the freedom of worship and belief to all.

ProudWitch:
Hi. You're a sweet person.

I understand you.

Thank a lot

So mind telling us what you have done regarding your ques?

Personally I have shared my stories on my quest for enlightenment here on Nairaland.

The most powerful tool I have yet used is the use of Sounds while fixing my attention on the spiritual area.

There is the "Ohm" sound used by Buddhists and the HU sound mostly shared by Eckankar my current spiritual school.

ProudWitch:
Ha, finally! I'm looking for occultic threads that doesn't deal with black magic; the type of threads that talks on enlightenment. And please ignore my username, I'm not a real witch.

Thank you!

Hi, you're welcome. I don't mind even if you're one. Everyone is loved the same by the creator.

On enlightenment, I suppose we could talk about ways to reach it not downplaying the fact that for most, it can be instantaneous depending on their distinct spiritual evolution of millions of lifetimes while it may come in small doses for some.

FRANCISTOWN:

The guy should read a book titled : The occultic Grand Master now in Christ Jesus.

Man! I don read nonsense for this life sha

Christians firstly threw away Judaism the very religion Jesus practiced.

If they are present the occult group who taught him before his "ministry" started, maybe they will look for him to crucify again.