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Greenlandncom:
We all believe.
Either in something or someone or even in some principles we or others have concocted

I think you simply generalize too much. Just scan this thread for exceptions.

Danisaint112:
You dream because your brain still functions. You don't dream when you are dead. You don't even know you exist anymore.

Perhaps you want to avail yourself information from the viewpoint of science which was done around the subject of OBEs.

It's just like that part of your sleep time, when you sleep for hours without dreaming and you wake up not knowing what occured when you were asleep. Know this and know peace.

Any where you saw I needed peace from these things?

hardbody:
I thought the Bible in Ezekiel 18 v 4 says that the soul that sinneth shall die

That is what you read.

This who have OBE, Soul Travel experience see something different.

Greenlandncom:
Therefore everyone is a believer in something. No one lives purely by knowledge alone.

Everyone is not a believer. There are those who do the believe thing. There are others who admit they do not know who neither make any attempt to believe anything into a knowledge.

Greenlandncom:
Do you know everything?

No one does

EMIOMOADEOYE:
What is the basis if this reasoning?

OP asked from a biblical point of view.

The Bible does not teach this.

The Bible teaches that at death, Man knows absolutely nothing, can do absolutely nothing, and can change absolutely nothing.

When a man dies, if he is fortunate to get a burial, he rots to dust silently and in a dignified way.

If he does not get a burial, he still rots, but most of his fles probably becomes carrion for the scanvenger birds and beast of the field.

The soul that you say cannot die, well that's a lie Satan has propagated for years.

Even Angels are not immortal....how much less Man?

You sound like the bible was written to be a standard for truth.

elpochas:
God really Bless u for This Exposure.This was really my thoughts some few days back.I said as long as wen we sleep our Spirit travele to another plane,then it means there is life after Death in another plane.

Exactly

Blakjewelry:
Lol and you cannot use to advance science research that are still theories. I have seen alot of you guys make claims like this and not one of you have any scientific significance. If you claim you can travel dimensions yet can't bring anything to the table when advance science, quantum field and different dimensions are been discuss and you have to wait until scientist spend ages figuring it out, what does that makes you.

In my upbringing, that feat is not made for sight-seeing or any of that. The actual purpose is to realize yourself as spirit and not the body and later on you have what we call the God realization.

Not withstanding most scientists you know in the past are autodidacts. They employ like contemplation or meditation by isolating themselves to extend their awareness where to where you get these ideas.

This place is known to us as the Astral Museum. All originals of all books, technology, plants, etc that have been, are and would be on earth are found.

When its time and needed, the guardians of the garden via those of the human race pull any one technically available to this place via dream, during contemplation or Soul Travel to view and see what they need to see.


Google is your friend on writers, explorers, founders, etc on who had been there.

Preciousgirl:
Throw more light

Are you available on Whatsapp

Last night for instance, I went to this space where I watched a lady play Lawn Tennis.

In some, I am looking at a cause of a problem which my human self cannot see how it came about. In this kind of experience, the solution is developed and I apply them as best as possible upon awaking the human bag I use to move around with.

An example of the above experience is I misplaced a tool I was working with. I checked everywhere for it to no avail. My colleagues where off for lunch.

I decided to sit it out. I find a place to avoid distraction, repeat some holy sounds and I was off in the dream land. While there, someone brought that same tool to me. Upon awaking, it yeas right where I asked them to keep it or something like that (I forgot some parts of this experience).


In some other experience, I am exploring some planets seeing the kind of people who live there that human instruments fail to capture.

When you hear statements like "the power is in you", it is when you begin to test, try and apply the techniques that you come to realize this.

I always love to apply destiny-editing techniques as the one above. They make one seem like a miracle worker, and you rightly are.

Shaking hands with someone as this particular pope is a double-edged sword. It can make or marr.

A former president did and received a dose of light which didn't end well for him.


Tinubu must put his head on high ideals, else...

EFULEFU1:
Have you had an OBE?

Throw more light

Countlessly.

Preciousgirl:
What's your faith?

We go beyond faith to knowing. A knower needs not believe. They know that they know.

Belief is faithlesslessnes and ignorance. Faith is belief in what you don't know.

Knowing is experience, knowledge and understanding.

This realities are not a religious or faith thing

Preciousgirl:
Interesting

Do people exit their body when they sleep ?

yes, temporarily.

Soul, the real person running a human body lives in multiple dimensions at the same time they are running the human body in the physical dimension.

This means they could be attending a conference in any of the dimension which in religion is termed a "heaven" while at same moment their human side is in a bus heading to work on earth.

A glimpse of what they might be doing occurs while the human body gives way in sleep. This is what humans call "dreams" due to the faint memories and inexplicability, oddness or strangeness of what they experienced.

An OBE is a more conscious version of the so-called dream.

Preciousgirl:
What happens to a man after he dies
From a biblical and spiritual perspective?

They mostly go to the next place they frequent in their dreams.

Dreaming is technically death. We as souls cannot die and cannot sleep.

To exist on a material world, we wear a material body which helps us make contact with physical things.

While this is useful, it is also a handicap. We cannot pass through walls, talk to one another from distances, see the future, etc.

We however do escape the body while it is sleeping. We wake up and call our visitation of diverse planets and dimensions " dreams".

Dreams or OBEs are prove that people do not really die.

That place had been taking lives since back in early 2000s

Dtruthspeaker:
You want people to talk of something which they know that if Just Is is done, they would not be qualified?

I am just seeing this question clearly. This question of yours clearly points to the fact if the truth would portend danger, it is not wanted in Christianity even if Biblical.

It shows that it is better for your lot to continue on misinformation and falsehood if peradventure investigation into the Bible shows that indeed Rapture had taken place.

You colleague-in-line-of-reasoning on the other hand believes that despite the fact that the word "Rapture" is referring to the event in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, as far as the word "Rapture" is not the one used, Aluta Continua. What wisdom

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Dtruthspeaker:
Since ye know that I am a son of God

Satan himself is a son of God. On this light, you are indeed a son of the almighty God, but then a child of light?...

then ye know that I would never tell you the answer for righteousness have no fellowship with the children of Satan

Actually, you are caught red-handed. Giving an answer to that will incriminate the Bible as a book of lies going by your line of reasoning since it too cannot identify that person who is living since 2k years ago. This makes both of us liars.

Thanks for the answer .

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you prove that you are true son of Satan?

Now because it is clear that you are a Liar now you have stretched forth your evil hands to dirtify the bible and drag it down along with you.

And because you are so full of Satan and evil you never knew what Christians knew.

Thus just like Satan you shall be in ever lasting Fire for your sins shall never ever be forgiven from the day of your birth to forever not-ending.

Son of Jehovah, answer the question.

Technique 5:

A Dream Exercise

Dreams are an easy and natural way to pursue spiritual unfoldment. Here is an exercise you can try before you go to sleep. It can help you see your problems from a higher viewpoint to aid you in your life.

Make a request. Before you go to sleep, write down a question about a problem that bothers you. Ask the Dream Master or your own spiritual teacher for guidance on this question. Lie down, and close your eyes.

Sing HU. Softly sing HU (pronounced like the word hue) for about five minutes. HU is an ancient name for God. It has the unique ability to lift you into a higher state of awareness. Singing HU connects you with Divine Spirit, or ECK, which can be seen as an inner Light or heard as Sound.

Write down your experiences. When you wake up in the morning, write down any dreams, thoughts, or feelings, even if you don’t think they are significant. As you go through your day, write down any new thoughts or experiences that relate to your problem. Do this for three to five days. Then look over your notes. You may discover that images you first thought were unrelated now make sense and give you clues to the overall pattern of your life.

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Dtruthspeaker:
You are just changing post up and down.

The fact remains that you have still not given us anyone who died recently in camera as you said who recently died and you saw living again on the earth.

Yea, and I am a liar for saying such. But when I discovered I was a liar, I remembered the Bible said someone will not die till Jesus returns. It also said John will come back to Earth. I now asked that since Jesus had not returned yet where is the person?

Is the Bible too a liar like me?

Dtruthspeaker:
All these are Off Points and Departure from Posts.

Shall not taste death is not reincarnation and shall return which has not yet happened is not reincarnation

No, we're talking of identification for now. How we will identify Napoleon when he returns and so on. Failure to do so means the point is a "lie" according to you.


Remember if it goes for the goose, it goes for the gander.

Since we failed to identify Mohammed, Napoleon, Abacha etc, we are liars and we agree. Now help us identify those two folks please so that we do not conclude the bible is a book of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
This is why i asked you from the onset:

Do you believe the Bible?

According to that book faith in God is not a possession of any nation or tribe {2Thessalonians 3:2} this means there is never going to be a nation where all the people there will agree together on faith but individuals from different nations will come out {Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1} and join the global family of faith irrespective of their backgrounds they will break free from sentiment and nationalism {John 8:32} to form a global family of peace! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

I think this makes groups like the Bhudists, Sikhs, Eckankar, The Red Cross, Search for Common Ground and other NGOs.

Can you mention a case where members of Jehovah's Witnesses join in any conflict?

The groups above and hundreds others do not join in conflicts.

Humans will always have a reason to get annoyed or offended but what i'm telling you is that when a person is offended JWs will use what Jesus taught us to calm the person instead of taking sides, that's where all others failed woefully because they will take sides in support of their own.

I am aware the existence of events like Disfellowshipping, Shunning, etc. We had cases of sexual abuse and others. There more controversial ones I do not wish to parse. Does this sound like peace to you within the close-knit circle which in your books is how your kind of peace could thrive?

How is taking medication related to picking up weapons in support of war?

May be you need to get what peace is. I see that you believe it is only when weapons are taken that you have what qualifies as a conflict. Enlighten yourself.

JW is a global family of peace where the members have emerged from countries around the world and there has never been a case where JWs lose our sanity to support any race or tribe in conflicts.

Bhudists, Eckists, Sikhs, out of many are a global groups who go straight to the foundation of how peace can be achieved which teaching you that it can only be found within and it manifests without. They teach practices like Dharma (rightful living) . They encourage what they call Bhakti ( Selfless Love). There had never been when they supported race or tribe in conflicts.

All those people you mentioned will still pick up weapons against people in other lands so their so called "peace" is useless if it only works within a location! John 4:23-24

I think whatever makes those groups who are for peace pick up weapons would make JWs too, until then, they are all for peace and they are doing remarkable well with proven results unlike JWs who so far only have medicine to cure hunch back for now.

Dtruthspeaker:
See, how you prove you are Liar and a person who loves Lies and Deceits

Every reasonable person can see that my point was to see whether you could tell us the Truth and give us conclusive proof of persons everyone whom we all know that they had Truly died eg Napoleon, Hitler, Hammurabi, Mohammed.

I will now add Abacha, Adisa, Atagha, Junior Pope etc (at least we now have cameras today) whether you have seen any of them living on the earth after they died.

So it is fraudulent of you to change the question into whether I asked if your grandfather existed, because you already know that you are speaking lies on this reincarnation sheet

Dtruthspeaker:
The mere fact that no one has seen nor identified Napoleon, Hitler, Hammurabi, Mohammed etc since they died proves all these you say are just your wishes.

I have included your original assertion. If you view my view point on incarnation as lies, perhaps you will do better by pointing us to the person Jesus said will not taste death till he returns.


You will also tell us how we will identify John whom the Bible tells us will return to earth in the last days.

MaxInDHouse:
You're not getting it my friend!

Jehovah's Witnesses have gathered people from all races just as Isaiah and Micah prophesied! Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1


They have used the Bible to teach them what God wants for mankind! Isaiah 2:3; Micah 4:2

And the result of this teaching is people from different countries throughout the earth (including people from the world's most racist nations) have learned to put hurtful things behind them and divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing buying selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against their fellowman. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Which people or nation adopted JW principles on tribal, ethnic, national or any level and achieved peace? Give a name please.

This means if everyone on this planet is a JW there won't be anyone picking up weapons

You are not getting it. It is not working for JW itself, how do you expect it would work for the world?

You keep mentioning "picking weapons" as if those are where conflicts arises from. You clearly do not know the cause of conflicts. For you to deal with a problem, you must know and avoid its cause.

Imagine all peoples not taking medication for mental illnesses and other diseases which helps sanity and well-being, where are you getting peace?

I have given you list of nations, tribes and groups who do without JW's principles and have achieved the end result of what JW has apparently failed at, lets assume JW is a tribe, has it achieved peace within itself as a group like the others I gave you?

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MaxInDHouse:
Chai! See human wisdom o!

My guy there is a big difference between someone who claims something and the one WORKING TOWARDS ACHIEVING it.

Which of those you mentioned could be found in all the countries of the world helping people everywhere to embrace peace?

Ọmọ each person is peaceful on his or her own when isolated but in reality the neighbor who visits you often to discuss how both of you can cohabit peacefully is the one ACTING IN LINE with what he claims not those claiming they are peaceful yet they can't impact others with what makes them peaceful.

You are here claiming you are spiritual and eagerly anticipating to chat with your people does that mean nobody else is spiritual?

Of course not. You are only WORKING TOWARDS achieving something which is ONENESS in thought.

Ọmọ that's what makes JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the only peaceful organization not just claiming something when you are not WORKING TOWARDS ACHIEVING IT GLOBALLY.

On one hand people have achieved peace without JW. Their model can be studied and applied to places of conflict. If they are evangelical like JW, they would roam the earth doing what you do.

JWs effort is proven to not be effective in that it had not helped any known group, nation nor itself. As an organization, conflicts and controversies had risen.

Here is JW's story:

A man gathered some people telling them tales of how while he was in Wakanda, he could jump over a mile. The people were awestruck at this. One man however was not hoodwinked, he told the man to pretend he was in Wakanda and jump for them to see.

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