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If one opens a Protestant Bible, you will find there are SEVEN books missing in comparison to the Holy Catholic Bible.

-Tobit
-Baruch
-Judith
-Wisdom
-Ecclesiasticus (Sirach)
-1 Maccabees
-2 Maccabees
-Six chapters of the book of Ester which are A, 3B,4C, 4D,8E,10F
-seventy verses of the book of Daniel in chapter 3. In a Protestant Bible chapter 3 only has 30 verses. In a Catholic Bible there are 100 verses in chapter 3.
-chapters 13 and 14 in Daniel

Why would Protestant theologins discard these God inspired writings? The answer may be within it being easier to change the Bible to fit protestant doctrines then to change doctrines in Jesus' Catholic Church.

If one goes to a Christian book store they will find numerous Protestant Bible versions. Along with many versions of the Bible, the Christian Sourcebook indicates there are over 26,000 non-Catholic churches with own doctrines.

Most early Bibles contained the Apocrypha; here are just a few:

· 1534 Luther's German translation of the Bible
· 1534 The Coverdale Bible
· 1537 Thomas Matthew Bible
· 1539 The Taverner Bible
· 1541 The "Great" or "Cromwell's" Bible
· 1551 The "Tyndale/ Matthews" Bible
· 1560 The Geneva Bible
· 1568 The Bishops' Bible
· 1610 Catholic Old Testament
· 1611 King James Bible
· 1615 King James Version Robert Barker at London, England

Unknown to almost all of the over two billion people who claim the Bible as their spiritual foundation is that there are several books and two sections missing missing from all but a few versions of that Bible. Perhaps one of the best kept secrets of the modern Protestant church is that the Bible used by that body is not the original King James Bible. That translation, completed in 1611, and the Bibles published for the use of the clergy and the church members until late in the 19th Century, contained 80 books. Although attempts to remove the 14 books known as the Apocrypha from the Bible began immediately after the King James translation was completed they remained in the Bible until the end of the 19th Century. There is no doubt that the 14 books of the Apocrypha were controversial, but it cannot be denied they were included in the original King James Bible.

The concept of the Protestant Church about the Apocrypha is virtually non-existent, with the general understanding that only the Catholic Church uses it. One would be hard-pressed to find any members of the clergy even aware that these books were ever included in the King James Bible. There are 155,683 words and over 5,700 verses contained in 168 chapters now missing from the King James translation of the Bible due to the exclusion of the Apocrypha. Although this only happened just over a hundred years ago, their existence as fully accepted scripture is virtually unknown.

How about pentecostal indungences. Pay your tithe to the pastor and you will be saved and get a lot of blessings. That's what they teach in London.

Me, a pentecostal preacher told me the same. You just have to believe, don't you love Jesus?

Early Protestant reformers of the 16th century like Martin Luther, Martin Bucer, Ulrich Zwingli, and John Calvin promoted individual judgment and interpretation of the Bible. They rejected outside authority (John 17: 20-23) (Luke 10: 16) that is the Holy Spirit sent upon the Church by Christ to teach and guide the Church as a universal body in matters of faith and morals. In effect, we have Korah’s revolt on a grand scale (Num. 16:2-33) (Jude 1:4-. Protestant churches then became fragmented into many thousands (well over 20,000) of Protestant denominations and growing. They can have standards of moral behavior that will accommodate almost any lifestyle. They appeal to pride and self, by claiming to be "progressive" or "modern". They claim "rights" not given by God using appealing terms like "personal choice."

The early Protestant reformers of the 16th century also adapted a shorter, 66-book canon of Scripture. They have a large chunk of truth but not the fullness of the truth in the Church founded by Jesus Christ. It is the Protestant churches that are adopting relatively recent or novel doctrines like justification by faith alone (sola fide) and use of the Bible alone (sola scriptura) as the only source of divine revelation. They eliminated the deuterocanonical books of the Traditional Bible (LV) of the Catholic Church, which had been in use for over 1000 years, and which supported Catholic doctrine like prayer for the dead and Purgatory found in 2 Maccabees.

The Bible is not the only way to God, that's the problem. It's a basic reformation twist, that all you need is your Bible. And anyway you shouls have noticed that Bibles are not all the same and some are chunkier than others. Luther/Calvin etc chucked out lots of the Bible which they did not like. One of them is justification by faith alone which is not part of the actual Bible.

This confirms that the Bible has been corrupted by the reformation and protestantism. Some Bibles are chunkier than other. Luther/ Calvin etc chucked out parts they did not like. One of them is justification by faith alone.

I agree 700% with NURU. And about God being father is not a concept I like considering all the permissiveness in western families. I say God the Almighty, rather than my papa. God is not about loving and letting you do what you want.

Paul asked others to pray for him and that's a fact. And I don't think angels wwere praying for God.

I agree, seen lot of born again hypocrites in pentecostal and charismatic churches. All it is, is a show off in church to be seen. Sometimes it seems more like a big entertainment thing to get young people in. My lady was pentecostal and they kicked her out of leading a church prayer group because I'm Catholic. Never happened in my church concerning her though. But you do have to agree though that the church usually has some level of influence on a person. Let's depict the Pentecostal preacher character, It's basically an American art form, preaching is a theatrical way.

We’ve been bewitched. What matters to us today are the carnal things. We want flash, bang and the wow factor. If a person can shout loud enough and get everyone to swoon at the altar, we don’t care how he or she lives at home. Morality is irrelevant. Some Christians write to say: “The Bible says we shouldn’t judge. No one is perfect. We need to forgive.” What Bible are these people reading? Mine says plainly that it is our responsibility to judge sin in the church.

I am not writing this to slander or diminish the spirituality of those who hold to pentecostal/charismatic and born-again concept. There are genuine persons out there too. And don't tell me about how loving Jesus was all the time, he was not a very nice person actually,

There are good christians though also. What I don't agree is that many poeple bunk Islam. It has good things in it as well.

So what you think of Islam and Christianity. I think as time passed by christianity is losing it. Too much division and I'm seeing more division again and new churches and schools of thought developing again, especially in UK. SOmetimes it makes me sick.

For me the Bible, the book of David and Book of Moses were also send by Allah. But most Muslims think they are corrupted and don't read them.

Yep, that true. I am christian and I also think Mohammed is great prophet and I respect Mohammad's life. Mohammed had great compassion and love. He served the widows and orphans, the poor, sick, aged and homeless. Anyway, there is nothing wrong critisizing christianity, we're not perfect. And some have screwed up christianity. Whereas I consider muslims to be purer in the sense that I don't see so much division in their faith as christians do. People tended to corrupt the teaching of the Bible. And that's why there is so much disagreement, confusion, and division in Christian denominations that often disagree and contradict one another.

And Muslims are overwhelmed and how many Bible variations there are. The Quran remains intact in the original langauge and not much variation. Some Bibles have things chucked out from it and if one looks at the Bible of different denominations you see some bulkier than others. How is that?

I agree

Yepp, found a new church

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Yep, it's true

Because they are too dumb to become doctors

I don't think the power of God saved him. Or maybe he was false prophet from some backward town or something.

Three churches actually. You should come to London and see for yourself. One got electrocuted for pushing the power of God to the limit. And God never got him back.

You got me wrong there. I went to pentecostal and charismatic churches and they found a problem I was not acting like they do. So I changed church again.

For me they are the same

One of those proclaimed saved lunatics. Seen a lot of them around

No it is ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY AND OMNIPOTENT not allah the father

He acting funny? How about her, she's the bitch not him. He deserves better.