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Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:44am On Nov 21, 2014
caprini1:
exactly......my good friend got a 2014 land rover Lr4. Just for selling a food suppliment and that's just a part time job o.
That is positivity, they will stay there and think nagative, beliving everybody is stupid as them, they will never in their miserable life assume that somebody can achieve that? these are the people that will complain that government will not bath them, feed them or clothe the, without believing in themselves, I gave them links that it is possible

I live in satellite town and i have friends in alaba i know the volume of transaction going on there on daily basis, the only thing is that you have to get this i can do it spirit, not sittiing down in a place and blowing grammar


THERE IS SO MUCH MONEY IN THIS COUNTRY, WHAT IS THE BASIS OF THE ARGUEMENT...IN A COUNTRY OF 170 MILLIO, WHY CAN SOMEBODY SELL JUST A MILLION COPY IN A WEEK

IT NOT EVEN UPTO 2% OF THE POPULATION...PEOPLE CAN BE NEGATIVE SHA
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:39am On Nov 21, 2014
So when i say the fact it is now termed Tribalism...mtcheeeew


ok take a list of haters from linda ikeji, flavor, genevieve and obi amstel malt endorsements and tell me what tribe they come from


that is the dominating factor, my dear if you dont agree with me, enviromental factors such as tribe, parentage etc influences people behaviour, Let admit the truth and that is when we will change


NewNigeriaMind:
hahaha cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin grin grin grin see this ngbeke said he is an optimist...... go check the meaning of the word.

with tribalism running marathon in your blood I doubt if you have ever being optimist in your life or have ever had a positive outlook to life.

Brymo is in the industry, he made a claim what Obaino is peddling is a lie, you are here asking me how that is possible.

I am sure Olamide wizkid would have sold like 5 million copies now going by the same assertions.

yeah least I forget, I actually have over 50 million in my account, that you can bet your life on. believe whatever rocks your boat but don't always put tribe in every argument.


STOP THE TRIBALISM.
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:36am On Nov 21, 2014
NewNigeriaMind:
SO IF I SAY A CAR IS COMMON MEANS IT IS USED AS A TAXI. you are the one that added taxi to it I didn't say that....

poverty and tribalism is killing you o!!!

wooo your life sucks abeggy..... bye
define common? olodo
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:36am On Nov 21, 2014
if the sell 10 billion copies, i am not in position to refute that because i do not have data to back it up, I am not their agent nor their distribution channel partner, you you are just plainly and stuppiddly saying things not substantiated, that is why your folks are seen as back stabbers...the brymo has proved that age long notion...it has noting to do with tribalism but the perception of people towards you and your folks


stop hating success, grow up and finally leave your parents house and go hutsle in some other place...it will help your perception


I am a business man and i deal with every tribes but in terms of friends i select my friends and they dont select me


your so negative


NewNigeriaMind:
hahaha cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin grin grin grin see this ngbeke said he is an optimist...... go check the meaning of the word.

with tribalism running marathon in your blood I doubt if you have ever being optimist in your life or have ever had a positive outlook to life.

Brymo is in the industry, he made a claim what Obaino is peddling is a lie, you are here asking me how that is possible.

I am sure Olamide wizkid would have sold like 5 million copies now going by the same assertions.

yeah least I forget, I actually have over 50 million in my account, that you can bet your life on. believe whatever rocks your boat but don't always put tribe in every argument.


STOP THE TRIBALISM.
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:32am On Nov 21, 2014
caprini1:
Everything good is possible in the Nigerian Market.....join the success train.
That is what i have been telling these haters and drag him down people, why must they be negative....



I wonder who keeps their types as friends...they will infect you with their negativity

i so much believe that good things in Nigeria space, if you believe you achieve
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:28am On Nov 21, 2014
sheby na you talk say 14 million range rover common abi? maybe your papa get 10 of them

oh you don change mouth again


lol
NewNigeriaMind:
you are obviously a slowpoke, just lie obiano you can lie for Africa and twist words. who said range rover is use as a taxi?

boy your life sucks.

tribalism kills faster than ebola. keep it up.
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:27am On Nov 21, 2014
NewNigeriaMind:
see this animal o!!!! I said my I have Igbo friends that we love each other and Igbo friends with yorubas friends that love each ther.....

you came back to tell me they are just tolerating me........

now you have changed it to from tolerate it leads to trust and so on....

you are definitely an obiano marketer..... telling lies is in your blood.

you need a life.
OH I SEE, YOU "LOVE THEM" AND THEY "LOVE YOU"

carry on with your love nwantiti lol

nwa enwe
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:26am On Nov 21, 2014
NewNigeriaMind:
FYI he said nothig that concerns flavor. what he said has to do with a marketer spreading falsehood.

sometimes I wish I do not have to share a country with you folks.
That is the problem with you folks, how can you categorically say that the marketer is spreading falsehood, are you a marketer, are you his inentory manager, are you his sales manager

if your obaino music staff, you are in position to refute his claim but if you are none of thes, it then mean that you are basically deluded


how can you stay there and assumes that somebody is spreading falsehood without backing it up


Its like when your neighbour tells you that he has a trillion in his account, you say his spreading falsehood without been his banker or insurer or his valuer


The way you people reasons sometime is terrible


You think that if you cant make it then everybody cant make it

Change your orientation, impossibility is nothing and nothing is impossible


I AM DONE WITH PESSIMIST LIKE YOU...I AM AN OPTIMIST
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:22am On Nov 21, 2014
NewNigeriaMind:
wow they are tolerating me......

why are you hell bent on spreading hate.

how are you different from book haram?
Tolorating you doesnt mean they hate you, you tolerate somebody before it graduate to trust, from trust to love

do you have logical reasoning at all



pls son grow up
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:21am On Nov 21, 2014
NewNigeriaMind:
eyaaaa sorry poverty is really a disease of the mind.
LIE MUHAMMED, IS RANGE ROVER A TAXI IN YOUR SO CALLED ELDORADO....RICH MAN, YOU SAY 14 MILLION NAIRA IS COMMON, MAYBE YOU ARE STILL IN YOUR PARENTS HOUSE

WHERE IS RANGE ROVER A TAXI IN NIGERIA OR AFRICA...MAYBE IN YOUR DREAMS

SON, LEARN HOW TO GROW UP
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:18am On Nov 21, 2014
NewNigeriaMind:
shut up your mind, you are nothing but a tribal bigot.

I have many Igbo friends with Igbo friends with many Yoruba friends and we love each other. so if I criticize my friend now because I am Yoruba means I am a hater or all yorubas are haters. boy your life sucks.

boy every time you look in the mirror you are looking at one of the major problem we have in this country.
dont insult me, there is a thin line between criticism and jealousy...brymo is an unknown artiste and he is not even a marketer or a distributor, why is he apologizing, stupppid fellow like you


dont think that your igbo friends trust you, they are just toloreting you thats all...it hurts but the truth must be told
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 9:00am On Nov 21, 2014
Africa is enjoying a financial boom,with Nigeria leading the way. The economy of the continent’s most populous country grew 15-fold during the first decade of the new millennium, continuing strongly into the second. is progress mirrored by that of its music industry. There is no shortage of talent, so why isn’t the Nigerian music industry raking in the big-bucks?

It Nigerian music enjoys myriad influences, called-upon by the country’s current leading-lights. Twin-brother duo P-Square lead the way on the RandB scene; their latest album The Invasion selling a million copies in four days.

Singer-songwriter D'banj has produced four successful albums with Don Jazzy, and won three producer of the year awards. Internationally successful, he signed with Kanye West’s G.O.O.D Music in 2011.

2face Idibia has also won much acclaim, including Best Male and Artist of the Year at the 2010 MTV African Music Awards. He has had five successful studio albums, and will perform at London’s Forum this December.

Economic success brings opportunities for the entertainment industry, but also challenges for those at its forefront.


http://www.africanbusinessreview.co.za/leadership/609/s-booming-economy-is-music-to-the-ears




HATERS CAN VISIT THE LINK PLS AND STOP HATING
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 8:58am On Nov 21, 2014
“Music artists can have a distribution deal with a record company and still come to Alaba market. If they have a recorded album, they want to be marketed and we are the market. What we offer to pay depends on the artist. If it is an established artist, we could pay up to 60 million naira (US$380,000) for a three-year contract. If it is an unestablished artist, we might offer them 1 million naira ($6,330) since we are taking a risk and don’t know if the market will accept them. The minimum CD run we do is 10,000 copies, but a big Nigerian artist can easily sell 10 million CDs in a week. “If you didn’t sell many copies of your CD and you still see it for sale in shops around the market, you will know that it is being pirated. You would go up to the trader selling your CD and say, ‘I have not been selling this song for the last week, where did you get your CDs from?’ The guy would be, like, ‘I bought it from that particular shop.’

Then you would go to that shop and ask the same question until you found the source. So, it is easier for a man who is in the market to notice if a CD is being pirated than for a man in an office somewhere. Even if someone starts pirating your CD from outside the market, they would still have to come here to sell it because this is where all of the business for West Africa is done.”


http://www.colorsmagazine.com/stories/magazine/85/story/alaba-piracy-industry
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 8:54am On Nov 21, 2014
NewNigeriaMind:
hahahahaa you live inLagos my foot....

boy you have never set foot in Lagos all your life.

look at this slowpoke I just went through you profile...... shouting Biafra.

see this guy o

The bolded even proves further you have never been to the island.
SO RANGE ROVER IS NOW TAXI IN LAGOS THAT IT IS SO COMMON, ABI 14 MILLION COMMON, LIA MUHAMMED
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 8:51am On Nov 21, 2014
The earlier we start celebrating ourselves irrespevtive of tribes that will be better

Forget tribes and stop hating

Be happy for those that are happy

Flavor sold a million copy and so what i am happy for him

Dangote is the richest assumed black man now..i am happy for him

Adenuga is running glo i am happy for them

Phyno and olamide are collabos...that is nice

Not always punching holes

I am hating this

We need change
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 8:45am On Nov 21, 2014
NewNigeriaMind:
The problem with Nigeria is this......

NOBODY LIKES THE TRUTH.

IF I SAY I DOUBT FLAVOUR SOLD EVEN UP TO 200000 COPIES SOMEONE WILL CALL ME HATER CAUSE I AM YORUBA.

WHAT A SORRY STATE WE FIND OURSELVES IN THIS COUNTRY.

CANT SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING WITH OUT ATTACHING TRIBE TO IT.


SOMEONE EVEN MENTIONE LINDA IKEJI.... I DON TIRE FOR IGBO PEOPLE. DO YOU KNOW THAT THE CAR IS COMMON ON THE ISLAND I WMONDER WHAT THE HYPE IS ABOUT........ SO ALL THE YORUBA THAT BOUGHT THE SAME NKO.....

NIGERIA IGBO AND THEIR CLANNISH BEHAVIOUR IS REPULSIVE.

IGBO AND TRIBALSIM IS LIKE BREAD AND BUTTER[color=#990000][/color]
I live in lagos and i talk from experience

Is 14 million naira suv common in island?hmmmm people and lies and jealousy..maybe it so common that they use the range for taxi

What will u people gain by lying and jealousy


Now tell me one thing common amongst these haters


They are from same tribe

It has nothing to do wit tribalism just their pull him down syndrome

This has to stop
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 8:04am On Nov 21, 2014
Sanchez01:
Bros, your shot is off target. Some Igbo songs are good, yes, but that does not mean Igbo artistes are legends. African China, last I checked, is from the east, where is he nowhuh
Your correct bro but majority of igbo artiste include business in their show thing

So if obaino didnt sell a million which i know is a lie..cos in alaba distributors buy minimum if 100k cds so from ghana to nigeria all he needs is just 10 distributors

Okay lets say it only his igbo people buy the music...consider igbo pipulation

If an urhobo says he sold a million in a week i will doubt

But if igbo or yoruba says so i wont doubt

Its people that buy music
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 7:58am On Nov 21, 2014
Linda ikeji bought range thr same set of people from same tribe hated and reported to google now google called them bluffs

They apologized later

Now some idiot claimed sleeping with igbo ladies is his achievement..the heat was on he apologized again

When genevieve got biggest endorsement in etisalat the cried


Mikel and genevieve got international endorsement they said amstel is tribal..now must we hate

When flavor sold million they envied and apologized


They even deported and came back to apologise


Always hating and apologising

It seems hating is an impulsive action for them


Enjoy others success
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 7:50am On Nov 21, 2014
One thing i have come to realize is that nigerians have not understood the business sagacity and ingenuity of igbos be it music distribution or artistry

Take a look at igbo stars and how igbo lingo is dominating even ijaw sang ukwu
Celebrities › Re: Brymo Reacts To Flavour's Claims Of Selling One Million Albums In Five Days by christopher123(m): 7:31am On Nov 21, 2014
You know envy cometh in shades

Brymo is a flash in a pan thing

He is no star if i see him in a mall i cant recognise him

A marketer told u he sold 1million albums

Now is it a big deal
Did u take his inventory
Are u his warehouse manager


People should get a life

Non igbos play flavor music

He re invented high life with swag


Pls give up to him brymo or fryo
Culture › Re: Nsibidi: The Original Nigerian Writing Script by christopher123(m): 7:00am On Nov 21, 2014
notobs:
you are the one that lacks comprehension and understanding, you cannot commit intellectual fraud and hope to be heralded, you guys are not fooling me and i wont allow you to fool the public either so i will keep punching holes in your lies.

All am saying is Ekpe and nsibidi is the cultural heritage of the Efik/Ibibios and not igbo! If you dont accept that premise then you must be really lacking in understanding of the subject matter.
Nsibidi is ejeghams culture not efik and ibo pls

For hausas to ride horse doesnt mean they invited horse riding

Did u do comprehension at school
Culture › Re: Nsibidi: The Original Nigerian Writing Script by christopher123(m): 9:13pm On Nov 20, 2014
I am impressed with ur analysis...i can count on u

Radoillo:
There's a great deal of confusion in the use of the words 'semi-Bantu' and 'Bantoid' in describing the languages of the Cross River zone and parts of the Middle Belt. That is understandable, given the great linguistic diversity of that zone. 'semi-Bantu' is an outdated word that belongs to the era when anthropologists thought Fulani was 'Hamitic' and Igbo 'Sudanic'.

Ekoi is classified as a 'southern Bantoid' language. This is the same group to which Tiv in the Middle Belt belongs. Ibibio-Efik is classified as a Lower Cross language. This is the same group to which Ogbia (Goodluck Jonathan's ethnic group) in Bayelsa belongs.

In other words, Ekoi is closer to Tiv than it is to Ibibio-Efik. And Ibibio-Efik is closer to Ogbia (Bayelsa) and Ogoni (Rivers) than it is to Ekoi.

Yes, both languages ultimately belong to the Benue-Congo language macro-family: same group as the Bantu languages. But that is about as significant as Igbo and Nupe and Aja (Benin Republic) belonging to the same language family (Kwa).

Under no circumstance is it right to use Ibibio-Efik as a general term for group of languages/cultures that include Ekoi.

As a Yoruba man, you would be furious if someone said the gangan was a Nupe heritage, and then went ahead to rationalize that statement by saying that Yoruba and Nupe are so similar that one could use the term 'Nupe' as a generic name for both groups, won't you? That is basically what you (and notobs) are doing here.
Culture › Re: Nsibidi: The Original Nigerian Writing Script by christopher123(m): 6:13pm On Nov 20, 2014
cococandy:
yea. Who knows maybe they were used to identify which house was which.
I'm aware royal houses A.K.A Obi of the kings had special designs for them.
Worship houses, the shrines or whatever had different designs too.
Maybe some of those sent out a particular kind of message to visitors and/or residents of the village/s.

Then maidens wore body art patterns different from married women made with Uli the red earth dye. I guess theirs probably screamed "see me here. Virgin. Not yet taken" grin
NOW YOU ARE REASONING, NSIBI IS MORE OF A CODE, AND IN IGBO LAND THOSE DAYS, YOU HAVE TO BE EDUCATED IN NSIBIDI FOR YOU TO DECIPHER THEIR MEANING, MORE OR LESS SECRETIVE THING, YOU KNOW THEIR WAS NO UNIVERSITIES IN THEN


But that is the way it is my dear, which part of igbo are you ?


I am enjoying this thread, derailers are low apart from notorious notobs, all are intellectual arguements, but notobs is making a salient point silently in a wrongful manner
Culture › Re: Nsibidi: The Original Nigerian Writing Script by christopher123(m): 5:56pm On Nov 20, 2014
macof:
Sure it's Ekoi, my point is Ekoi is of the same cultural structure as Efiks...I merely use "efik/ibibio" to represent all those culturally assimilated and linguistically linked tribes in the region

I don't get why this was a cause for arguments in the first place, it's like general knowledge
Ekoi and efiks aint same

Just like confusing igalla and igbo

They are not
Culture › Re: Nsibidi: The Original Nigerian Writing Script by christopher123(m): 5:52pm On Nov 20, 2014
cococandy:
thank you.

Well I know about Uli body art and native black chalk designs. Or so I thought they were. I just didn't know there's a name for it until the thread that was the inspiration for this one was birthed. Neither did I know that It was/is a form of communication.

I just got sort of spellbound right away. smiley
Yes those designs you see have meaning
Just that in igbo land today you rarely find mud houses

Those days

Uli and nzu will be used to for patterned designs
Culture › Re: Nsibidi: The Original Nigerian Writing Script by christopher123(m): 5:45pm On Nov 20, 2014
For about a thousand years, the Ibibio lived in the area which later became Arochukwu. During their staying, they founded several states (Obong Okon Ita and Ibom) and had a strong cultural presence. Igbo migrants into the region, was led by the Eze Agwu clan in the mid-17th century. The Ibibios resisted these newcomers and this resulted in a stalemate. The Eze Awgu clan searched for ways to subdue the stiff Ibibio resistance. The Priest Nnachi from the Edda group near Afikpo, was called by their king Awgu Inobia (Eze Agwu) for help. When he arrived, Nnachi and Eze Agwu allied with prince Kakpokpo Okon of the Ibibio kingdom of Obong Okon Ita. Kakpokpo Okon was the son of a marriage between an Igbo women of the Eze Agwu clan and the King of Obong Okon Ita in an attempt of a peace treaty. The Eze Agwu/Nnachi faction decided to help Kakpokpo attempt to overthrow his brother king Akpan Okon. The coup was heavily resisted which called for even more help. Through Nnachi, an Eastern Cross river group answered the call for help. They were known as the Akpa. These warriors and traders, may have had European guns which were new to the Aro territory. Being the Igbo allies, the Akpas were led by the royal Nnubi family. Osim and Akuma Nnubi led Akpa soldiers to help fight against the Ibibios. Together with Igbo forces and Ibibio rebels, they defeated the Obong Okon Ita forces (1690). During the final battles, Osim Nnubi was slain in Oror city state making it the capital of Arochukwu. In Obinkita the remaining Ibibio warriors became prisoners and were judged and that is why the city state is the holder of the Ikeji festival. But at the end of the war, Osim and Kakpokpo were dead. In order to honor Osim's legacy, his brother Akuma was crowned the first EzeAro (king). After his death, Nnachi's descendants took the throne starting with his first son Oke Nnachi. The Arochukwu kingdom, was founded.[1]

Aftermath[edit]
After Arochukwu was formed, it began to expand because of the growing population and territorial protection. Ibibio groups who were kicked out and their allies (Obot Mme, Mako, and etc.) sporadically attacked Arochukwu shortly after its formation. In order to neutralize Ibibio invasions, Aro forces formed vigilante camps which eventually grew into communities on the Arochukwu-Ibibio boundaries and repelled the invasions.
notobs:
Keep lying to your self the Efik ibibio history is well documented in great libraries all over the world you cannot change , alter, steal or pervert our history! here is the correct account of the revisionist history that you are trying to tell by your lies: For the Attention of those who want the truth:The History of Nsibidi Writtings.
THE IBIBIO CIVILIZATION OF AROCHUKWU


The Ibibio word "Nyibi" which means turn in English, is the root of Nyibidi. Nyibidi means turning. The play was usually accompanied with drummings. The drum is called Ibit. The drum for the ruling Crown is called Ibit Itam. Itam means crown, hat, or headgear. Ekpe was indeed the governing deity and Ibit Itam was one of their major plays. Ukara means governance or government in Ibibio. Ukara cloth is worn by those in the government of Ekpe. The Ekpe and even Ekpo masquerade of old used to dance in a circular motion in order to induce a trance-like effect or feeling. Hence Nyibidi. Ibibio is the largest language of the Cross River and Akwa Ibom territories. Efik, Ekoi, Annang, Oron, Eket, Qua, Ibeno, Okobo,etc. are all variations of Ibibio. The Ibibio owned and controlled Arochukwu until they lost it in 1634 to the allied forces of the migrating Igbo and the Akpa. The Igbo slaves of the Ibibio rebelled and joined forces with the Akpa who were themselves of Ibibio origin. The Ibibios left both Arochukwu and their ancient Long Juju, but those who remained continued to run the oracles and influence the Igbo converts/practitioners of Ekpe. The Ibibios and Efiks taught Nsibidi to the Igbos through the Ekpe society. The chief language used in Ekpe is Ibibio. The Ibibios and Efiks knew Arochukwu as Ibom and Mbot Abasi. Mbot means creation. Abasi means God. Therefore, Mbot Abasi means the creation of God or, simply, the people of God. While in Arochukwu, the Ibibio leaders had a secret society called Ekpe. Ekpe means leopard or lion. The leadership operated (and still does)in an esoteric manner. Only members are privy to the innerworkings of the group. They developed an elaborate system of logograms through which their ideas, knowledge, and activities were recorded. Nyibidi which means turning (going in circles), evolved into Nsibidi. Nsibidi is Ibibio for what is at play or, what's playing? Nso = what. I(as in letter "e" = is. Bidi = play or playing. NSO-I-BIDI (NSIBIDI) or NSO-I-BIRI(NSIBIRI) means what's playing? What's at play? Therefore, Nsibidi means what is playing or, what's at play? Nsibidi was later adopted as the name for the writings associated with Ekpe society. It is true that the Europeans found most of the Nsibidi script among the Ekoi, but it is really of Ibibio origin. When Aro and their allies conquered the Ibibio in 1634, they took over the oracle but retained its priests, with Loesin as the chief priest. It was he who later initiated Aro indigenes into the cult as priests. IBINI UKPABI is the IGBO corruption of IBIT UKPABI. Some say the Igbos used the word IBINI as homage to the slave-raiding Oba of Benin who caused their migration to Arochukwu. After the IBIBIO lost AROCHUKWU, the Igbos renamed the Ibibio deity IBI ITAM (Drum of the Crown). They called it IBIT UKPABI. IBIT is IBIBIO for DRUM. UKPABI is an IGBO name. The corrupted version, IBINI UKPABI, is what they use these days. Since Arochukwu(Mbot Abasi in Ibibio or God's creation/people in English) is the spititual center of the Igbo race, you can say that their 'holyland' is actually of Ibibio origin. I'll call it the IBIBIO CIVILIZATION OF AROCHUKWU. The Ibibio created it and that explains why the Aro deities have mostly Ibibio names.

The Igbos could not fully adapt Nsibidi because translation from Ibibio into Igbo had too many constraints. Original meanings of Ekpe society's Nsibidi often got lost in translation.

"There was no war between Aros and Ibibio -what happened was what one would accurately describe as a coup. The Aros who were assistants (slave by Europeans) at the Ibritam Shrine organized a coup with the help of Ekoi, Akunakuna, and Igbos and seized the shrine from their Ibibio masters. Talbot** put the date at 1300 -1400 based on the geneaology and calculation of the ages of relatives of informant who claims their forebears were in charge of this shrine -we dispute this because the informant forebears couldn't have been incharge since religious affairs in Ibibio land was entrusted to the group known as Annang today ,and this informant came from a different group. However, Talbot also based his date from Aro informant. We still think that the date was much earlier. However the consensus is that the Aros were in possession of the shrine before trade with the Portuguese and later Slave trade with Efik and later the Ijaws-Bonny and kalabari when Ibibios prohibited transportation of people across their territory."
“Obot Okon Ita or Obinkita(an Igbo corruption of the name) was the capital of the Ibibio kingdom of Obong Okon Ita and Ibom(nation in Ibibio) before its conquest by Igbo and Akpa invaders in 1690–1720. This town is significant in Aro History because Obinkita became the center where defeated Ibibio warriors were judged.ion in Ibibio. This is why all Aro villages assemble at Obinkita during the Ikeji festival. Obinkita is now one of the 19 villages of Arochukwu.”
“Agwu Inobia or Eze Agwu the man that was the founding father of igbo Arochukwu

Agwu Inobia or Eze Agwu was one of the founding fathers of the city of Arochukwu, the third largest city in Abia State in southeastern Nigeria. He was the descendant of Nna Uru (a immigrant from the Igbo heartland to the Obong Okon Ita area) and king of the Eze Agwu clan centered in their capital the Amanagwu city-state. As new settlers, the Eze Agwu clan was resisted by the regional power Obong Okon Ita which led to the start of the Aro-Ibibio Wars. The war initially became a stalemate. Both sides arranged a marriage between the king of Obong Okon Ita and a women from the Eze Agwu clan in an attempt for a peaceful coexistence. The marriage eventually failed to bring peace but eventually played a decisive role in the war.

King Agwu Inobia invited Priest Nnachi from the Edda group near Afikpo to help him break the stalemate and win the war. When he arrived, Nnachi and Eze Agwu allied with prince Kakpokpo Okon of the Ibibio kingdom of Obong Okon Ita. Kakpokpo Okon was the son of the marriage between the Igbo women of the King of Obong Okon Ita. The Eze Agwu/Nnachi faction decided to help Kakpokpo attempt to overthrow his brother king Akpan Okon and the coup was heavily resisted. Nnachi called on an Eastern Cross river group known as the Akpa for help. The Akpa are said to have possessed guns and are credited for introducing the weapon to the region. Princes Osim and Akuma Nnubi led Akpa soldiers to help fight against the Ibibios. The alliance between Eze Agwu, Nnachi, Kakpokpo Okon, and the Akpa eventually defeated the Obong Okon Ita forces (1690–1720) under the leadership of Osim Nnubi. As a result of the Aro-Ibibio Wars, the alliance formed the Arochukwu kingdom. Akuma Nnubi was appointed king of Arochukwu in the place of his brother Osim Nnubi who died during the end of the war. Prince Kakpokpo Okon died and the Ulu Okon dynasty was assimilated into the Eze Agwu lineage. The Amanagwu was incorporated as the first of the 19 city-states of Arochukwu and Eze Agwu became one of the three lineages of Arochukwu.”

"The other major slave-exporting state was a loose confederation under the leadership of the Aro, an Igbo clan of mixed Igbo and Ibibio origins, whose home was on the escarpment between the central Igbo districts and the Cross River. Beginning in the late seventeenth century, the Aro built a complex network of alliances and treaties with many of the Igbo clans. They served as arbiters in villages throughout Igboland, and their famous oracle at Arochukwu, located in a thickly wooded gorge, was widely regarded as a court of appeal for many kinds of disputes. By custom the Aro were sacrosanct, allowing them to travel anywhere with their goods without fear of attack. Alliances with certain Igbo clans who acted as mercenaries for the Aro guaranteed their safety. As oracle priests, they also received slaves in payment of fines or dedicated to the gods by their masters as scapegoats for their own transgressions. These slaves thereby became the property of the Aro priests, who were at liberty to sell them."

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Culture › Re: Nsibidi: The Original Nigerian Writing Script by christopher123(m): 5:40pm On Nov 20, 2014
The Ekoi people speak Ekoi also known as Ejagham. Ekoid language (Niger–Congo family) of Nigeria and Cameroon. Ekoi is dialectically diverse. Western varieties include Etung and Bendeghe; eastern Keaka and Obang.
The Ekoi are one of several peoples who use nsibidi ideographs, and may be the ones that created them.Nsibidi (also known as nsibiri, nchibiddi or nchibiddy) is a system of symbols indigenous to what is now southeastern Nigeria that is apparently ideographic, though there have been suggestions that it includes logographic elements. The symbols are at least several centuries old: Early forms appeared on excavated pottery as well as what are most likely ceramic stools and headrests from the Calabar region, with a range of dates between 400 and 1400 CE. Nsibidi's origin has been attributed to the Ekoi people of southern Nigeria.

The origin of the word nsibidi is not known. One theory traces the word to the Ekoid languages, where it means "cruel letters", reflecting the harsh laws of the secret societies that hold nsibidi knowledge. In Calabar, nsibidi is mostly associated with men's leopard societies such as Ekpe. The leopard societies were a legislative, judicial, and executive power before colonisation, especially among the Efik who exerted much influence over the Cross River.

The origin of nsibidi is most commonly attributed to the Ejagham people of the northern Cross River region, mostly because colonial administrators found the largest and most diverse nsibidi among them. Nsibidi spread throughout the region over time and mixed with other cultures and art forms such as the Igbo uli graphic design. In 1909 J. K. Macgregor who collected nsibidi symbols claimed that nsibidi was traditionally said to have come from the Uguakima, Ebe or Uyanga tribes of the Igbo people, which legend says were taught the script by baboons, although one writer believes Macgregor had been misled by his informants

Culture › Re: Nsibidi: The Original Nigerian Writing Script by christopher123(m): 5:36pm On Nov 20, 2014
Your such a smart lady, have you come in contact of nsibidi written in uli or native black chalk?
cococandy:
true this. Igbo are known to be one of the earliest civilizations to practice democracy in Nigeria. There wasn't just one monarch who ruled over everyone rather we had a system of government known as "Oha na Eze" . Meaning "the people and the king". The people before the king.

Only in a few areas was kingship hereditary. In most places,it was by 'divine' selection or good old voting overseen by the kingmakers.
Titled men known as the nze na ozo lead the people alongside the king priest. Each kindred producing an nze to represent them much like the current house of reps thing we have going now.

And then the umuada society (our old version of feminists if I may say that)
a group made up of first daughters of every household to see to the rights of the women. Although in some areas umuada societies consist of all females and not necessarily the first daughters.


Fascinating really.
Romance › Can You Allow This Cake In Your Wedding? by christopher123(op): 4:37pm On Nov 20, 2014
I know that in this part of world, we are more of hypocrites and pretenders, some stuff might offend some people sensibility and some stuff might be okay. Can any lady allow this cake for a wedding? Went to wedding, a closely knit and invited wedding and this was the cake. It was good though More of a chocolate cake.

Now to ladies, can you allow this cake for your wedding? And what will you do as a man if your wife insists on having this cake design or surprisingly brings this cake for your wedding or anniversary.
Now this is a matured question for matured mind, lets get cracking, but do dick bend? Please ladies answer me, I am loving this cake.

Pets › Re: You Cant Believe This: Animals You Never Knew Existed by christopher123(op): 3:33pm On Nov 20, 2014
The Saiga Antelope
This antelope is typically found in Eastern Europe or in Western Asia. It has a strange looking nose that is extremely flexible. Other than its nose it looks like a normal antelope. The Saiga Antelope is a truly unique animal.

Venezuelan Poodle Moth
This moth was only recently discovered in the country of Venezuela. Until 2009, we did not even know that the moth existed. Since this is a recent discovery there is not much known about the moth. The moth looks very fluffy and so it looks kind of like a poodle.

The Pacu Fish
The Pacu Fish is an extremely strange looking fish. This fish is found in Papua New Guinea. It has extremely sharp and human like teeth. If you see the inside of this fish’s mouth you will be scared to get in the waters of New Guinea. Fishermen living in New Guinea often saw that they are scared for their safety due to the existence of these fish.

Mantis Shrimp
These shrimp are also known as “sea locusts”. There is little known about these creatures because they spend a large amount of their life hiding in burrows so that they can hunt more effectively. Even though we do not know a lot about these animals we do know that they are an extremely common predator in tropical waters. These shrimps look extremely alien in nature and they are definitely worth looking at.

Pets › You Cant Believe This: Animals You Never Knew Existed by christopher123(op): 3:29pm On Nov 20, 2014
Okapi
The Okapi is native to the Democratic republic of Congo, which is located in Central Africa. This animal is a mammal and kind of looks like a pig mixed with a Zebra. While the stripes it has make it look like a Zebra the Okapi is closely related to the giraffe.

Thorny Dragon
The name of the Thorny Dragon pretty well describes the lizard as appearing like a dragon with tons of thorns. This lizard has a fake head to protect itself and it is colored desert brown like its environment. This animal is mostly found in the desert and it spends most of its time trying to hide itself from other predators. If you want to see a lizard that looks like a dragon, then you need to check out some pictures of the Thorny Dragon.

Shoebill
This bird was originally discovered by the ancient Egyptians, but it was only classified in the 1800s. This bird looks like a stork, but its beak is the shape of a shoebill. Check out pictures of this animal if you are looking for a truly unique bird.

Indian Purple Frog
As the name implies this frog is found in India. The frog is a kind of brownish purple, kind of the color of purple mud. While it is a frog it looks more like a leech because it is extremely bloated. The frog also has a pointy snout. The frog spends most of its life underground mating with other frogs. For two weeks out of every year the frog comes up to the surface of the earth. This extremely ugly creature is definitely worth taking a look at.

The Blue Parrotfish
This fish is extremely large and is also extremely bright blue. The fish is so bright blue that you will not believe that it is real. The fish is found in the Atlantic Ocean and it spends most of its life searching for food in the ocean. If you want to see an unbelievably bright blue fish, then you should check out pictures of the Blue Parrotfish.

The Bush Viper
There are tons of unique snakes in the world, but the bush viper may be the most unique one in existence. The bush Viper has lots of spikes and thus looks a little bit like a dragon. This animal is found in the tropical rainforests of Africa. This snake does its hunting at night and it is a carnivorous predator.

Culture › Re: Nsibidi: The Original Nigerian Writing Script by christopher123(m): 1:21pm On Nov 20, 2014
letu:
Yes Umuahia,Mbaise and Ngwa more like Abia state stuff.
Pre-colonial Igbo political organization was based on semiautonomous communities, devoid of kings or governing chiefs. With the exception of towns such as Onitsha, which had kings called Obis, and places like Nri and Arochukwu, which had priest kings known as Ezes, most Igbo village governments were ruled solely by an assembly of the common people. Although titleholders were respected because of their accomplishments, they were never revered as kings, but often performed special functions given to them by such these assemblies. This way of governing was immensely different from most other communities of Western Africa, and only shared by the Ewe of Ghana. Igbo secret societies also had a ceremonial script called Nsibidi. Igbos had a calendar in which a week has four days. A month has seven weeks and thirteen months a year. The last month had an extra day. They also had mathematics called Okwe and Mkpisi and a saving and loans bank system called Isusu. They settled law matters by oath-taking to a god. If that person died in a certain amount of time, he was guilty. If not, he was free to go, but if guilty, that person could face exile or servitude to a deity.

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