₦airaland Forum

jieta:
cire80 this is how you measure development, not constructing 5km road. delta state is curse with bad leaders, and okowa is one of those people bringing us backward.

Too quick to judge. Wait till we get the real gist. oshomiole commissioned a bigger one during is tenure but it's been under locks. Fashola was praised as a working governor until his secrets started exposing. I'm not a praise singer. I don't think Okowa has commissioned any giant project but he's commissioned a lot of medium scale that I'm aware of.

Behold the new Lie Mohammed.

Rape a Ghana girl in Ghana? They're in for it

Any truthful soul here knows that you deliberately ignored my questions that were bigger than you. Don't argue with your likes.

pazienza:
Lol! Getting frustrated already? Well that's what happens when you have no rational points to present.

Keep roaming. The shame is on you lots.

your ignorance is frustrating. Some jobless people would have time for your likes but not me. I would have continued if you responded to my points but you mischievously ignored them.

pazienza:
1. Language shift happen, yes! But no such language shift happened in Ika, we all know this, why, because no factor to cause such language shift exists in Igbo people, this can be seen in all the non Igbo groups surrounding Igbos that retained all their indigenous language and only became bilingual.
Ika that is miles away from SE and directly contagious with Bini by land, can't lose its Bini language to Igbo language. No logic or rationality supports this.

Every one conversant with Agbor history know that Oza people were recent Edo migrants to the part of Agbor they occupy and are customary tenants to Ikas of Agbor. The rest of Oza people are in Edo state, and they still speak Edoid first language while the rest of Ika is in Edo state and they still speak IGBOID and not Edoid language there, despite centuries of existing under Bini dominion.

You school no one, I'm conversant with Agbor history, they were all Igboid speaking since antiquity, even the so called Edo migrated ones.

Olukumi people only became bilingual in Igbo and Olukumi. Their Olukumi though dying, still survive till today, despite being completely surrounded by Enu ani speakers,and their land very far away from the nearest Yoruba community in Ondo, yet you want us to believe that Ika that share land boundary with Binis lost their Edoid language entirely with no iota of bilingualism in Edoid and Igboid languages. Do you see how irrational you sound?

You lots are pathetic.

I'm done with you if you only pick points to respond. And your responses are always filled with lies and ignorance. Your comments have shown that You don't know any single thing about Agbor history apart from those you learnt on Nairaland.

You know that Oza are recent migrants but don't know when they arrived? If truly they are recent migrants, isn't that enough reason they are recently getting affected? And you ignored my comment about some of the other recently Edoid group that only switched within the last century. I have so many things to ask you but I already decided to ignore you and your ignorance.

pazienza:
Lol! How in hell did an Igbophobic Ika that is Edophilic, and immediate neighbors of Binis, end up speaking Igboid language (language of a people they obviously don't want to identify with and don't love) in place of their supposedly previous Edoid language.

Igbos also traded with Igalas, Idomas, Ogonis, Ibibio, Annang, Efiks, Ekoids, all it resulted was in bilingualism at the border communities of those groups with Igbos.

This is the challenge before you Edophilic Ikas.

This is the true test of your rationality, and so far, you have failed and continue to fail to produce a rational answer to that question.

The Shame will forever be on you lots.

Ikas are Edophilic? What an ignorant fool you are. Ikas only protect their history from foolish Igbos that are consciously trying to foist themselves in everybody's history. Very shameless set of people. We are now igbophobic because we don't allow you guys to fabricate our history? Why are you guys so shameless?

Languages go extinct. Language shift occurs and it doesn't necessarily require any specific process to occur. Only a fool think that what happens to A must replicate itself exactly in B. If you agree that Ozanogogo is of Edo origin simply because they still retained their Edo language but argue that other parts of Agbor is not of Edo origin because Agbor lost their original tongue shows how ignorant you are about Ozanogogo history Do not sound like you are an authority in a subject you know nothing about.

Let me school you a little. Agbor has 11 villages but out of these 11, 6 were Ika speaking and 5 Edo speaking within the last century. But come to Agbor today, only one village is truly Edo speaking and the remaining 4 Edoid speakers are fastly turning Ika speakers to a high extent.

Also go to the Odiani people of Aniocha. There were originally 5 or 6 Odiani clans but today only Ogbodu group is truly Olukumi speaking. We all know the efforts they are putting into protecting their language. Another clan that also retained their language is Ukun Nzor but not as much as the Ugbodu guys. The rest have lost their languages to a very high extent.

So according to your anology, these recently Edoid speaking villages (Alelihan, Alison etc) in Agbor are originally Igbo speaking like the other 6 Ika speaking villages (though theres no Igbo speaking village in Agbor) because they lost their Edoid tongue?

And the those Odiani clans that lost their Igala and Olukumi languages are originally Igbo speaking because they lost their languages, and their counterpart Odiani clans are the originally Olukumi/Igala speaking? So what happens tomorrow if Ozanogogo, Ugbodu and Uku Nzun loses their language? You will say they are originally Igbo speaking? Or you will agree that they are orinally Olukumi/Igala speaking because you witnessed the language switch? If you only believe what you witnessed, you don't have business commenting on a historical thread.

Within the last couple of decades, Ika has lost tons of Edo words in our language. Igbo is fastly displacing the Edo /Ika words. Language switch takes centuries to occur. It happens to different groups at different points in history. Only a fool expects anything to be uniformed. They start by bilingualism before complete switching. Igbo is a majority language just like Hausa. Go to the North and see what Hausa language is doing to Northern languages. Lots of the languages have gone extinct and some only exists as second language or among the the elders. But the good thing is, these people still retained their cultures just like we in Ika.

pazienza:
Ibani still exists as a second language in Bonny and Opobo.

All inter trading will cause is bilingualism, especially when there is no colonial power at play. Idoma communities at Enugu/Ebonyi - Benue border are bilingual in Idoma and Igbo language, likewise those Enugu/Ebonyi neighbors of the Idomas Who are also bilingual in Igbo and Idoma to ease trade between the two groups.

Stop supporting irrationality, how can Ika just a stone throw to Bini, and who had shown nothing but hate to Igbo tag throw away their Bini language for an Igbo one when right in the same Ika, the real Edo migrants amongst them, called Oza nogogo people continue to speak an Edoids language as their first language even unto this day, while they speak Igboid language as a second language.

Even Urhobo and Isoko that migrated from Bini and had lost territorial contact with Bini still speak an Edoid language till today.

Please stop being mischievous in your support of irrationality, any rational mind can see the lies inherent in a Bini loving, and Igbophobic Ika, that threw away their Edoid language for an Igboid one.

Worst still, Ika had never been in the same political space with SE Igbos since 1914, they had always been with Edos.

what does bilingualism lead to? Do you think all these happen in a century? If you think a language like Igbo needs to be political affiliation with any lesser group to displace their language, then you need to have your head checked. BTW, only dishonest Ikas attribute everything to trade or missionaries activities. The relationship is more than just that. But not anywhere close to what you've been postulating.

jieta:
how kogi go develop when people like dino and bello dey rule

i though okowa was worse until bello prove me wrong.

Okowa might not be the best but he's not among the worst. Okowa has worked in terms of road and other infrastructures. What I don't understand yet is why the Local government workers are still not paid. The last time I enquired, it seems there are some issues that have not been settled though I don't understand what issues they are. That's what I got from a PA. I'm not exonerating him. Those people owed many months have needs and family. This is my only problem with him. Otherwise, he's performing well.

That wasn't Buhari. APC had to make the person talk in Hausa so that people will concentrate on if it's right or wrong for him to address his countrymen in Hausa and divert attention from the main matter. It's a diversionary tactics

Ujuju.

Ofe Ujuju-

is native to all parts of Anioma. In years past the Ujuju leaf can be plucked just at the backyard for a delicious all round culinary experience only Anioma people are known for !

Ingredients:
Ujuju leaf, water, assorted meat, fresh and smoked fish, snail, crayfish, mushroom, pepper, onion, salt, ogiri-ofe, palm oil and stock fish.

Method:
1. Pluck the ujuju leave.
2. Parboil ujuju leave with salt, mash and keep aside.
3. Cut meat to size - season and boil.
4. When the meat is 90% cooked, add your washed fish, stock fish, snail and cover the pot.
5. Add your pepper, crayfish, onion, mushroom, salt, for taste-add Maggi, ogiri­-ofe, palm oil and cover for ten minutes.
6. Add the mashed ujuju leave and stir, then allow to boil for seven minutes.
7. Ready for serve; Best served with (Nni Akasi) pounded cocoyam mixed with fufu, fufu, pounded yam, garri or semovita or wheat meal.

Ika is one of the minority ethnic groups that makes up Nigeria. We have a lot of nice cuisines and delicacies but unfortunately, they are not very popular beyond Anioma and Delta. I'

Ofe Ujuju-

is native to all parts of Anioma. In years past the Ujuju leaf can be plucked just at the backyard for a delicious all round culinary experience only Anioma people are known for !

Ingredients:
Ujuju leaf, water, assorted meat, fresh and smoked fish, snail, crayfish, mushroom, pepper, onion, salt, ogiri-ofe, palm oil and stock fish.

Method:
1. Pluck the ujuju leave.
2. Parboil ujuju leave with salt, mash and keep aside.
3. Cut meat to size - season and boil.
4. When the meat is 90% cooked, add your washed fish, stock fish, snail and cover the pot.
5. Add your pepper, crayfish, onion, mushroom, salt, for taste-add Maggi, ogiri­-ofe, palm oil and cover for ten minutes.
6. Add the mashed ujuju leave and stir, then allow to boil for seven minutes.
7. Ready for serve; Best served with (Nni Akasi) pounded cocoyam mixed with fufu, fufu, pounded yam, garri or semovita or wheat meal.

Osahon7:
Irabor is bini
Idemudia is bini

why did you say Irabor is Bini? I know that Irabor is an edo name but we answered that name as well. Even Idemudia and every other Edo names. Especially as surnames.

unuane1:
Both Bini and Esan answers the name Idemudia and also lrabor too.

why did you say Irabor is Bini? I know that Irabor is an edo name but we answered that name as well. Even Idemudia and every other Edo names. Especially as surnames.

Commander of Lafia Dole, Leo Irabor was confused as an Edo but is actually an Ika man. This lady might be from any part of Edo Delta.

Zoolezoo:
So you are the Insider that is going to carry Edo into Biafra? lol What is wrong with some of you people? How will Edo fit into the giant Jigsaw puzzle that is Biafra, with their history, almost Godly reverence for their Oba and all that stuff?

Do you know there are Yoruba communities in Ovia North East and Ovia South West? and some other places that speak a Yoruba-Edo mixture?
How about Akoko Edo, Owan, Auchi and all those places?
Edos fit in Oduduwa 80% and nowhere else, even the Edos know it, unless they just want to do small shakara for the Yorubas, like a girl playing hard to get.

Oduduwa is an Edo prince and most of the relationship you people have with Edo is from Oduduwa and subsequent interactions. That doesn't mean they would want to be in a country with you. Edos want their country but anything short of that will be Biafra.

Afam4eva:
Na im be say you no know Edo people. Yes, they're Niger Deltans and know so and can join a Niger Delta republic. But will definitely opt for a union wth Yorubas than Igbos. They have more cultural and political relationship with Yorubas than they do Igbos. Infact majority of the anti Igbo Niger Deltans are from Edo state because they feel they have nothing in common with Igbos and are surprised when people from Delta, Rivers, Akwa-Ibom, bayelsa and Cross-River keep acting like Igbos are their closes allies in Nigeria. Just ask any Edo person you see.

Here you go wrong again. The Edo/Yorua relationship is more pronounced than the Edo/Igbo relationship. But I as an Ika man can authoritatively tell you that Edo and Igbo are more related than most people think. The most anti Igbo Niger deltans are not the Edos but the Urhobos of Delta State.

Afam4eva:
Ikt's actually more plausible than anything else. Haven't you noticed that Edo state is the only south-south state that's not so fund of the whole Niger Delta stuff. But they could consider a Niger Delta country as well as joining the Yorubas. Now, joining Biafra is definitely never gonna be an option except something drastic happens.

you're talking from a complete outsider/stranger perspective. Did you say Edo is not fond of the Niger Delta stuff? Then you don't know Edo at all. Edo would rather join Biafra than join Oduduwa. Though it might sound weird to you, but I'm telling you now

Afam4eva:
You know, this nation forming thing is funny as everyone seems to have an opinion on how they will not join Viagra or how they will form their own Republic. When all is said and done and if this breakup eventually happens, you will be shocked at how things will pan out. Don't be surprised if the entire south forms a republic. Also don't be surprised if the people that have been shout "We are not part of Biafra" fighting for resource control in Biafra. The only people in the Niger Delta that I know for sure will have nothing to do with Biafra are Edging people because they're more politically and somewhat culturally aligned with Yoruba. I would have said the same thing about Urhobos, Isokos and Ijaws in Delta state. It's just that if the Ijaws in Bayelsa and Rivers decide to pitch tent with Biafra, their Keith's and kins in Delta state may have no option. And the Urhobos and almost everybody in Delta south and Central May be inclined to tag along because it's really hard to separate these groups because they're somewhat intertwined. Left for Urhobo and Isoko, they'll rather look westwards with their Edo people in Oodua but these things are not mathematics.

I don't ever see Edo joining the West in anything. Not in this world.

DMerciful:
Mind telling us these other roots? The people of Agbor has a root to Eri(umuleri)

Today it's umuleri. Tomorrow it's aguleri. Ain't you guys tired of superimposing your history with others'?

Nsn123:
Please I would like to know how the naming ceremony for people from Delta Igbo is being carried out. With respect to Asaba. I'm a newly married woman (married to an Asaba man) and I was wondering aloud and haven't attended one before. I've attended the Yoruba people naming but not Igbo or even Delta. Pls, kindly share your experience if u have attended one and what it involved. Thanks

I think your husband should know.

Even among the SE States, some clans are marginalized. Some Edo groups are marginalized. Even in Anioma, some clans claim marginalization. High scale discrimination exists in Edo. It's not targeted towards the Igbankes alone

DMerciful:
Some Igbos from Ikwerre, Anioma, Igbanke etc will say we are not Igbos. Denying your Igbo root will not help you in any way! If there is a war in the north, you are seen as full blooded igbos and won't be spared whether you say you're Ikwerre or not! Also, the great marginalization of the Igbankes in Edo state cannot be overemphasized cos they were placed in a state were they are extreme minority but had it been the foolish military govt of IBB placed them with their kit and kin in Anoima, they would have been happier. I am from Anioma and here in Lagos they treat me as omo-ibo....with the same suspicion they treat Igbo, they treat me the same and it has happened severally. Accept your 'igbotude' and position yourself for greatness.....know your enemies else you'll get burnt!

Do you know the meaning of root? Which among these groups have Igbo root? Maybe the Ikwerres. I don't know. But majority of Anioma have roots other than Igbl

AtaniWarrior:
Anioma is apart of Igboland. Western Igboland.

go and tell that to IPOB

AtaniWarrior:
1. No, Igboland is not landlocked.
2. Yes, Igboland is to the East and West of the Niger River.
3. Yes, Igboland includes parts of Cross River, Rivers and Benue states.

Even IPOB made a disparity between Anioma land and Alaigbo in the documents they released. Anioma was listed as one of the components nations of Biafra alongside other groups

seunmsg:
I don't believe the Eiye confraternity membership part, it was probably made up to make the story more compelling. The boy obviously lacked parental care and hence, hustled on the street to survive. The church is just going to milk his story for whatever publicity that it's worth.

Junior Eiye probably. They have different names in different locations. Or even a street gang under the protection of Eiye. It's all over in the streets. Prolification of confra everywhere

O0XYGEN:
I just can't imagine the level of your dumbness after reading more on their currency devaluation.
Before the devaluation of their cedi there was nothing like 1 cedi.
Their currency started from 10000 cedis which was equivalent to 1 dollar.(Their lowest currency note was 10000 cedis just as ours is 1 naira)
20000 was also equivalent to 2 dollars.
So eventually they decided to get rid of the zeros(which was meaningless ) to get a single digit.(just like 1 naira)
So 10000 became 1 cedi ,20000 became 2 cedis which was equivalent to 1 dollar n 2 dollars respectively , likewise de rest.

In Nigeria don't we already have 1 naira?
How can we devaluate 1 naira?
Which zeros are to be taking off?
So you see how dumb you sound?
Their devaluation changed nothing.
Everything still remains the same .

Dickhead .
I hate people who are ignorant.
Educate yourself first before showcasing your ignorance on social media.

What kind of a dimness is this? The same reason Ghana was counting in millions is the same reason Zimbabwe is counting in billions. Zimbabwe can decide to knock out ten zeros but that would not make their currency stronger than the Naira