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Apostles who gave good news as well as warning, that mankind, after (the coming) of the apostles, should have no plea against God: For God is Exalted in Power, Wise. S. 4:165 Y. Ali

The Quran makes it categorically clear that Muhammad was a warner. What does a prophet warn the people about? A prophet warns the people about the consequences of sins. Every sin has punishment for it.

But a man who would warn the people on the consequence of sins must himself not be found a sinner. A sinner is not in the position to warn other sinners. You cannot give what you don't have.

Muhammad is said to be a giver of good news. This is a concept contradictory to jihad, whereby he would enter a city and kill them if they didn't surrender to islam as stated below. Killing people is not a good news by any interpretation.

Quran  48:2] That Allah may forgive thee of thy sin that which is past and that which is to come, and may perfect His favour unto thee, and may guide thee on a right path,

The Quran says Muhammad had sins in the past, present and even in the future. It was like he had a liberty to commit sins and would be automatically forgiven.What then would he warn the people about? A sin is a sin: idolatry, adultery, fornication, killings, lies, stealing etc. If a prophet indulges in any of those, he is not qualified to be a warner.

Quran 50:45] We are Best Aware of what they say, and thou (O Muhammad) art in no wise a compeller over them. But warn by the Qur'an him who feareth My threat.

If Muhammad was a warner and not a compeller, why did he embark on Holy War?


Quran 6:48
We send the apostles only to give good news and to warn: so those who believe and mend (their lives), - upon them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. S. 6:48 Y. Ali; cf. 18:56

If Muhammad was sent ONLY to give good news and to warn, why were there verses in the Quran ordering him to fight infidels?


Again, a warner from God gives warning and leaves it at that. He doesn't punish the violators. Why would Muhammad kill those who did not heed his warnings? How would he convince the people not to do what he himself was found doing?

References:


Quran 2:216
Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.

Does a good news carrier fight war? What has warring got to do with warning?


Sahih Muslim 4346
The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: If you come to a township (which has surrendered without a formal war) and stay therein, you have a share (that will be in the form of an award) in (the properties obtained from) it. If a township disobeys Allah and His Messenger (and actually fights against the Muslims) one-fifth of the booty seized therefrom is for Allah and His Apostle and the rest is for you. 

....If you come to a township (which has surrendered without a formal war)...That connotes Muhammad was entering cities and forcing them to surrender or face a war. Even after surrendering, they forced them to have a share in their properties. How can any reasonable person claim he was fighting in self-defence or claim Islam is a religion of peace? 

Then the apostle sent Khalid bin Walid… to the Banu al-Harith and ordered him to invite them to Islam three days before he attacked them. If they accepted then he was to accept it from them, and if they declined he was to fight them. So Khalid set out and came to them, and sent out riders in all directions inviting the people to Islam, saying, “If you accept Islam you will be safe.” So the men accepted Islam as they were invited. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 959)

Three days notice before attack. How is this in consonance with good news or mere warning as the Quran says. Why is the Quran inconsistent?

Do you know Buhari didn't swear with the Quran at his 2nd term inauguration on 29th May, 2019? He wore Sharia Law Bag to show his commitment to implementation of Sharia Law throughout Nigeria. What is that other than islamization?

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Buhari had, at a seminar organised by the Supreme Council for Sharia in Nigeria in August 2001, said, “God willing, we will not stop the agitation for the total implementation of the Sharia in the country. I will continue to show openly and inside me, the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria.”

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I have not heard or read about witches and other occults trying to attach Muslims or Islam. Reason: they are birds of the same feathers.

malvisguy212:
Jesus is mentioned many times than Muhammad in the Qur'an, Jesus did many miraculous things in the Qur'an. Jesus gave life to the lifeless in the Qur'an. but how many times you Muslims mentioned Him in your prayers ? the main reason why Islam lack miracle is because you Muslims have divorce your self from the one whom God has empowered to miraculous things.

The Muslims would want us to believe the Quran itself is a miracle. That is a blatant lie. When Muhammad was about dying, Aisha, the small baby girl that Muhammad married at the age of six, recited the Quran on him for healing, but it didn't work. How is a Book (Quran) that couldn't heal be called a miracle?

Muslims like deceiving themselves.

tartar9:
You dont exist to me...who hate who? When your average xtian is the one who hates Muslims

How?

tartar9:
Lol

Come to think of it, why do you Muslims hate the name of Bible Jesus?

Why do other religion adherents hate the Bible Jesus?

Why are the gentle and easy going Christians so much hated by Muslims and other evil religionists if not the evil spirit indwelling in them?

Those other evil religionists prefer the violence causing Muslims to peaceful and.easy Christians who do not kill ordinary animals? Many Christians cannot afford to kill their fows. Don't you think something is wrong somewhere?

Why is it that it is only the name of Jesus

psucc:
They must be afraid "at the mention of that Name every knee must bow of things in heaven, on earth and beneath the earth".

The Name above every other names.

Hallelujah!

Yes o.

There is power in the name of Jesus.

When you say "God" to the Muslims, they are always comfortable with it, but if you mention the Bible Jesus, something (a spirit) will stir up anger and indignation inside them. When I say the Bible Jesus I mean Jesus as described by the Bible.

When you call "God" to the Hindus, they are comfortable with it, but mention the Bible Jesus Christ, their faces will change and you will see great indignation on them.

When you call God to occultists, they don't have problem, but the moment you call the Bible Jesus they will become angry, afraid and start trembling.

That means there is a connection between the gods of Islam, Hindus and Occultism. Their gods hate and fear the Bible Jesus. Or should I say muslims, hindus and occultists have the same god, which they worship in different ways.

That reminds me of the testimony given many years ago by an ex-occultist and a magician now in Christ . He now has a Church in Abuja. He said 1948 a meeting was convened in Ibadan, which Satan himself presided over. The agenda of the meeting was how they could tackle those calling the Bible Jesus (i.e the Christians). As discussions progressed, someone among them mentioned "Jesus" and Satan made a loud scream and vanished. Everyone there was surprised as they didn't expect their god to be so affected by the mention of the name of Bible Jesus. Then, Satan reappeared again after a few minutes and gave a wrong warning that nobody should mention Jesus by name again, they should refer to him as "the Righteous One.

No wonder the Muslims all over the world are raising war against the people who call upon the Bible Jesus (the Christians). I read about the very serious persecutions of the Christians in India by the Hindus. The occultists, witches and wizards and other evil spirit worshipers are all against the Christians. In fact, some Islamics sects are working towards total annihilation of the Christians. Impossible. You know what, the Christians they all hate are very peaceful people, who deserve to be loved and appreciated. Why the hate if not the Devil.

Whose Angel is Islamic Jubril that brought the Quran?

Certainty, Gabriel who broke the good news of Jesus birth and who said Jesus would be called the Son of God could not be the Jubril who brought the Quran that said God does not have a Son.


Bible, Luke 1:35]
And the angel (Gabriel) answered and said unto her, (i.e Mary) The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the SON OF GOD .

[Matt 3:16-17]
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, in whom I am well pleased.

Jesus called Himself the Son of God.

[John 10:36]
“Are you saying to The One whom The Father sanctified and sent into the world, “You blaspheme”, because I SAID TO YOU, "I AM THE SON OF GOD?"


But Quran  112:3 says;
 He (Allah) begetteth not, nor is He begotten.

[Quran 9:30]
"And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

1 Cor. 3:11

For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

That means any other foundation laid (i.e Islam and others) is not from the God of the Bible.

Mat. 24:14

And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in ALL the world as a witness to ALL nations and then the end shall come.

Jesus expected only the Gospel to be preached till the end of the world. This means he has no hand in the coming of Islam.

Galatians 4:22-31

22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

So, the persecution of the Christians by the Muslims is not a new development.

Opportuneke:
You may be right bro,

And what if it's a propaganda on the other hand.

Just like 2015 predictions that Nigeria will break.

Look at this public statement coming from Buhari:

“I will continue to show openly and inside me the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria,” Mr. Buhari said. “God willing, we will not stop the agitation for the total implementation of the Sharia in the country.”

Since that is what is in his mind, one should not be surprised about the islamization agenda.

Opportuneke:
That's bygone,

Let's move on please,

At least, election is over.

It.is not about election but islamization agenda.

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Nigeria on the brink

By Richard Grenell - - Thursday, March 19, 2015

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

With the polls closed in Israel, international election observers now turn their attention to the Nigerian elections on March 28. The choice for the leader of Africa’s most populous country pits Goodluck Jonathan from the People’s Democratic Party (PDP) against Mohammadu Buhari of the All Progressives Congress (APC). The decision by the roughly 73 million registered Nigerian voters could have a profound impact on the future of Africa.

But Western foreign policy observers pre-occupied with the rise of ISIS in the Middle East should wake up to the reality unfolding in Nigeria. Opposition candidate General Buhari wants Sharia law throughout Nigeria. In fact, he wants it everywhere.

“I will continue to show openly and inside me the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria,” Mr. Buhari said. “God willing, we will not stop the agitation for the total implementation of the Sharia in the country.”

Agitation? Is this an indication that Mr. Buhari supports violence because the end goal of the terrorist attacks throughout Nigeria and Africa is an Islamic state? It is a legitimate question that should be asked by leaders of the Obama administration.

Boko Haram has pledged its allegiance and support to ISIS. The Northern Nigerian based Islamic terrorist group wants Sharia law throughout Nigeria and beyond. They are also actively terrorizing Chad, Niger and Cameroon with their goal of an Islamic state.

Mr. Buhari has also spoken sympathetically about members of the terrorist group Boko Haram, has cautioned against a rush to judgement on its members and has personally been selected by the terrorist group to lead its negotiations with the Government of Nigeria.  Mr. Buhari’s election as Nigeria’s head of state would be a disaster for Africa. It would also signal trouble for the West’s fight against ISIS and terrorism throughout the Middle East.

Islamic radicals have Africa on their target list and young Nigerians are reported to be interested in ISIS’ messages. Nigeria is at a tipping point. Tunisia, where the Arab Spring uprisings began, saw a deadly Islamic terrorist attack at a popular museum killing 23 people this week. ISIS attacked a hospital in Libya within the last few days and Boko Haram killed 54 people with 4 suicide bombers in Nigerialast week. The West, and specifically the Obama Administration, needs to wake up to the growing problem.

The French government has been fighting ISIS in Africa for the past two years, starting in Mali but with little help from the Obama Administration. As terrorism grows in yet another region of the globe, American and Western officials should realize they are not stopping the advancements of Islamic radicals. Al-Qaida is not dead and ISIS is not a JV team.

The recent moves by the White House against Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu signal a willingness by President Obama and his team to intervene in foreign elections. The sitting President Goodluck Jonathan has committed to defeating Boko Haram and overseeing a free and fair election. The Nigerian economy has been growing faster than South Africa’s. Imagine what Nigeria could do for Africa if it was also free of Boko Haram’s violence. The Obama Administrationshould be doing more to ensure Africa’s most populous country doesn’t slip away.

Richard Grenell is a former spokesman for four United States Ambassadors to the United Nations, most recently Ambassador Zal Khalilzad.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/19/richard-grenell-nigeria-

sulasa07:
So you know say dem dey fight for land,but media always make it look like Religion Matter,Jew vs Muslim.

Don't mind them.

sulasa07:
How about Is real killing Innocent Palestinians

That is a war between a nation and another nation.
They are fighting over land (space) and not for religion.

sulasa07:
The Qur'an faces Jews n Christians more coz Jews and Christians both claim they worship the true GOD but the Pagans know they are not worshipping the true GOD.

Yes, the Devil hates the devotees of the true God.

If Muslims and Christians worship the same God, why are Muslims fighting the Christians, the peaceful people? So are the Hindus persecuting the Christians in India. Muslims, Pagans, even athesists hate the Christians. This is not ordinary because Christians are supposed to be loved for their attitudes. Why should any reasonable person love Islam against Christianity, knowing that Muslims are commanded to hate and kill non-muslims.

Jesus Disciples were killed one by one for causing no violence. They were going about the Gospel peacefully, yet they were persecuted for no just cause. The same Devil that caused the killing of the Apostles is responsible for Muslims killing innocent Christians..

Tajbol4splend:
So who interpreted those verses to you? You think they are just mere English comprehension passage you can just interprete. You need to Start focusing on your own beliefs and the ways through which you will receive the kindness of God in life and hereafter. Your claim is that Islam is not a religion of peace and I think you have right to your opinion which is based on a reason best known to you and those who claim it is a religion of peace also have their reasons, so why are you worried about other people's opinions, everyone has a duty to God to achieve his kingdom, it's not our position to decide who God wants or doesn't and any argument is a waste of time. Can you tell me your position with God? Nobody knows their position with God so it is better to prepare ourselves with good and clean heart than looking at other people's frailties because everyone has theirs, thank you.

Well, you are entitled to your own opinion.

But I don't need any further interpretations as those quotations are written in clear English language. Didn't you yourself understand when you read them. They have been interpreted already.

Do you know the Quran itself opposed the Jews and Christians? In fact, it attacked the Jews and Christians far more than it did for pagans. Why?

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Tajbol4splend:
I wonder why you created the thread, why can't you focus on what you believe in and just leave Islam for the Muslims, you can't gain the love of someone showing hatred to other people.

No ooo!!!

It is not a matter of showing hatred. A number of them do not know how Islam was founded. They sincerely but ignorantly believe Islam is a religion from God. Besides, those quotations are from their religion, it would have amounted to hatred if I fabricate lies against Islam.

If they are made to understand that Islam is a violent religion from their own books, and yet they still claim it is a religion of peace, it means they are deceiving themselves. They are saying Islam is a religion of peace because they know that it is Godly to be peaceful, but is it still Godly after knowing it was established with violence?

Which one will pay them better: showing them the truth or leaving them to perish?

Those of them reading my threads, though some hate them, but on the Day of Judgement, they will not have excuse of ignorance. The Bible says if a watchman sees danger coming but refuses to blow the trumpet, the people will die but their blood will be required from the watchman.

See the religion of peace:

Submit and testify that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the apostle of Allah before you lose your head" - (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 814, Ibn Kathir v.3 p.392).

How does that look like Muslims defending themselves?

What are ISIL, Book Haram and other islamic terrorists doing differently?

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.

Is that good neighbourliness?

Fighting people for no just cause. Must everybody become a Muslim? It is the Devil that drags people to his side by force.

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The Lord be blessed.
Shouldn't that miracle be a lesson to those jihadists?
The Devil has blinded their minds.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."

Who was speaking there, Allah or Muhammad?

Would Allah call himself "Allah"?

But they told us all the words of the Quran were spoken by Allah.

sukerefakere:
Islam is actually the best.
Who wouldn't want this

Hmmm !!!
The best indeed.
The best for those who hate the truth.
The best for anyone who wants his soul to roast in hell.

Shepherd00:
Why will thunder faya anyone?

Hmmm !!!