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TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 10:32am On Aug 13, 2023
safarigirl:
You know say na him be first son and breadwinner of the family as him papa don die, plenty people upkeep dey him head, so, if he reason am small, he go just dey cry.

To be man no easy.
shey he is acting in one Funke Akindele's series on Africa Magic. That means it's true Funke pays those guys 3k per episode they appear on. Na wa o
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 11:02pm On Aug 12, 2023
Benita wants to kiss, Adekunle is either not getting the signal or is a eunuch as I suspect
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 10:58pm On Aug 12, 2023
Bennytwin:
No be only uriel.
Ilebaye dress like olosho too.
Very off!
Ilebaye can get away with it based on her age, but Uriel's a granny
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 10:49pm On Aug 12, 2023
fitzmayowa:
Uriel will sleep well tonight Neo finally acknowledged her on the dance floor.....cheesy grin cheesy
she is dressed like a 90s olosho
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 10:48pm On Aug 12, 2023
Davido get hits sha
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 10:47pm On Aug 12, 2023
Abeg this Adekunle is too mechanical. See as he hold Venita like Romeo robot for PJ mask
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 12:13pm On Aug 12, 2023
RosyIsBlessed:
This Adekunle is undoing his game. He's now Venita's handbag.
.
Just like he became Obaseki's handbag in LU season. It may seem as though the guy is a natural born submissive husband.
I actually pitied him when he came on stage on the opening day proclaiming the bad boy Deks alter ego with ear piercing and rough hair. I saw a grown man that hates himself and wants to be someone else

Some things will never change
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 11:33pm On Aug 11, 2023
Soma the SIMPle man
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 11:03pm On Aug 11, 2023
CeeC real face worwor sha
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 11:01pm On Aug 11, 2023
Why is Cross trying to kiss Ike. Ike had to move his face away
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 2:51pm On Aug 11, 2023
UncannyGenius:
Venita's father could be the half-brother of Neo's father.
A good possible explanation
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 1:20pm On Aug 11, 2023
dominique:
Her dad is a mixed race British citizen which automatically makes her British. She has spent enough time in England to have their accent.
But how are Venita and Neo are both Akpofures and cousins but Neo doesn't look like he has a drop of Oyibo blood.

If they are both Akpofure and Venitas father is biracial, it means Neo's father should be Biracial too as they would be related through their fathers(being both Akpofures).

Can someone explain what I'm missing?
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 12:55pm On Aug 11, 2023
PegasusSolid:
Kiddwaya should grow up and determine what he wants from life, his brother already heads a government agency. He can't keep partying forever.

Cross would be very stupid to blow away his Atiku money, so for now i'll say he's just pretending to be low on cash. Being a political lackey isn't a job as well, he should do better! Time no dey again.
Cross does look stupid though undecided
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 9:12am On Aug 11, 2023
Housemates always squeezing face when WM is making his jokes. They got him figured out
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 11:25pm On Aug 10, 2023
Tolanibaj belle ehn. Na why shame no dey allow her wear bikini. Her mid section look like woman wey don drop 3
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 10:56pm On Aug 10, 2023
Neo reminds me of this guy from Coming to America, though Neo looks like the palm wine tapper version

TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 12:22am On Aug 10, 2023
Cho cho cho don give CeeC ibèkè, literally(in her voice). The most narcissistic human being you would ever meet, always touching her ass and boobs as if to assure herself of their sizes and starring at herself in the mirror
RomanceRe: Her First Child Is Mine And Not The Husband's by clefstone(m): 4:54pm On Aug 09, 2023
13years, 8years.....
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 9:07am On Aug 09, 2023
CeeC and her fake LA accent. Irritating
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 10:44pm On Aug 08, 2023
thatigboman:
CeeC is the only one in bbnaija history that trended worldwide. We don't call the fabulous CeeC a Legend for calling sake, she earned the medal with a long pole.
Even Ebuka couldn't help than to introduce her as "the Queen of Double Wahala"
Vote CeeC my people
maltina bottle
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 10:49am On Aug 08, 2023
Clement1111:
This one don go do copy and paste

Anyway nothing for her this season Sha cus she isn't entertaining
why do you think it's copied. Have you seen something similar elsewhere? huh
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 8:34am On Aug 08, 2023
Mercy

The only reason why she wouldn't win the ultimate price is that there is likely going to be a grand conspiracy during the finals to ensure a previous winner does not win. However, people forget how beautiful a legend of back to back wins becomes, like the story of the Liverpool team of the 80s, the United team of the 90s/00s and the present City team. Such legends make for great stories to tell those that are unborn

Why is Mercy an overwhelming favourite?

Mercy is a great personality, a unique one. Very generous girl, doesn't argue and maintains good relationship with both sexes and even her ex. We would recall her generosity with her wigs in her season. There was also a scene I watched where Tolanibaj told a fellow housemate that she doesn't mind mercy winning because she is sure she would chop from the money. The girl is a people's person. The attraction of the likes of Tolani, Angel and Venita towards her is because of her loving personality.

Another reason Mercy is exceptional is that it isn't easy for someone raised in a monolithic part of Nigeria with their native accent to be so bold on a show like Big Brother and command such respect. Imagine an Ibadan girl(no pun intended please) with a deep Yoruba accent controlling things in BB house. Very unlikely.


Let's make this fairy tale possible

Let's make a great former win, All stars winner

Vote Mercy Eke
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 12:30pm On Aug 07, 2023
Adekunle is either a virgin or a eunuch
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 7:10pm On Aug 06, 2023
Jury will save Princess
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 1:49pm On Aug 05, 2023
safarigirl:
He does not take drugs

What he had is called a panic attack. It happens when you lose your temper, and he had lost his temper while arguing over the people that buy plenty food and contribute little to the shopping.

We saw this guy for 72 Days during SYE, nobody who takes drugs can stay 72 days without getting a fix.

Please, you guys should read up on how panic attacks work. It's like when you're overwhelmed by anger, but you try to force yourself to be calm. You start shaking and for some people, like me, you can even start crying
what you described is not what panic attack is
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 10:49pm On Aug 03, 2023
Why did Cross goan bleach cheap bleach sef
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 12:36pm On Jul 30, 2023
Is Ilebaye a Ghanian or did she grow up in Ghana. If the answer to both is no, she should get out of that house
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by clefstone(m): 1:54pm On Jul 29, 2023
WorWorBoy:
I have never seen anyone as toxic as this Ceec. The man wey go marry her, the lord is his strength,🤦 the lady no be am at all.🤷🚶🚶
CeeC is an adult that refused to grow mentally. Like children, she feels like the world revolves around her and everyone should bend for her. She must be a recluse in real life, with no social interactions, else she would have outgrown this her toxic entitlement character
CultureRe: Igbo Origin Of The Ndoni And Aboh People - Ndoni Historian by clefstone(m): 11:41pm On Jul 23, 2023
Ekealterego:
LOL. You really came hard on the Bini immigrants.
Well, in context, "great" Bini fought the British with the stench of corpse and pushed their women to fight with pebbles for only 50 hours in total before it was burnt to the floor.

Enuani on the other hands fought for years. In the SE, apart from so many resistance, the fragmented small Arochukwu fought a full blown war with an empire with great resistance that the British had to reinforce again with more firepower and army.

So, if a "great kingdom" was crushed by a few criminal unskilled weak white men for a few days, how can you have pride coming from such a place when your own people were even able to put up a harder resistance.

As for Aboh and Ukwuani, I feel you have to exempt the Ndosumili people (Aboh aside). The euphoria of Ukwuani paying tax to Bini is not held so much with servient relish is not as strong within Ndosumili as it is with Ukwuani.

It's a shame, Aboh is suppose to compete with Onitsha and Asaba, but today, it's only but a sleepy hamlet, despite its strategic location.
so how can you now explain Olaudah Equaino's writing that his village was part of the Benin Empire if Benin was a not so great Kingdom. I will explain how the Benin empire was easily defeated by the British after you explain Olaudah's writing
CultureRe: Igbo Origin Of The Ndoni And Aboh People - Ndoni Historian by clefstone(m): 11:21pm On Jul 23, 2023
Igboid:
Now on you Dein Agbor stuff, I believe you were mischievous in choosing part of his words to use to push your agenda.
Dein is not against Igbo Language, because that will be like self fight, seeing as what Agbor speak is also part of the constituents that make up the artificial construct you call "Igbo language". If you are speaking Agbor, you are speaking Igbo grin.
What Dein was actually doing was that he wants Agbor dialect protected from being swallowed up by the artificial Igbo language construct.
Notice he didn't condemn the use of Igbo language, he also condemned the use of Ika language, he wants Agbor dialect strictly kept.
What he is doing is not disimilar to what Igbo tribes in SE is doing too. Everyone is fighting to preserve their own Igbo dialect from being swallowed up by "Igbo Izugbe".
My elder brother married an Abia woman, I remember the day she gave her daughter the name "Chizaram", my grandfather was not impressed at all. He felt Chizaram which is of Abia/Imo origin and has been chosen as Igbo Izugbe, is an attempt to erode his own Ogidi language.
He wondered why they didn't name the child "Chizalum" as we say in Ogidi. He wasn't impressed at all.
He has always been a purist and clannish.
He hates hearing names like Chinyere which he believes pose danger to his Idemili dialect.

Funny enough I was in an Ngwa and Ndoki Facebook page some time ago and they were complaining of same thing, they feel Igbo language is taking away their Ngwa and Ndoki languages.
They wondered why their daughters and sons are bearing names like Ifeoma, Ifeanyi, Emeka, etc, when they don't use such expressions in Ndoki/Ngwa, they rather say Iheoma, Iheanyi, and Emela (Chukwuemela instead of Chukwuemeka).
It might seem anti Igbo, but what Dein is doing out there is Igbotic. Igbos are naturally clannish and segregating rather than assimilating.
This is why I quickly dismissed cock and bull stories of Bini people who were turned Igbo overnight. Igbos don't accept strangers as part of our units. We are naturally clannish and everything is tied to Umunna/Obi (Kindred) all knitted together by blood ties, it's almost impossible to get in as a stranger.
Great write-up. You just got to the crux of the matter. There was nothing like a precolonial Igbo ethnicity. There was the Igbo language which outsiders mistook for an Igbo ethnicity. It is the reason Obi Ossai was erroneously referred to as the king of the Ibus by the expeditionists who most definitely got the info from non-Igbo speaking Aboh neighbours since the Obi was the only king of an Igbo speaking territory they knew and was also immensely powerful and influential. It is the same error of equating language to ethnicity that people of today continue to make.

Igbo ethnicity only started with the perception of or actual persecution of the Eastern Nigerians by the other section of the new country. Not all the Igbo speaking groups keyed into the new ethnic identity, though some groups in the East like the Onitshas who were once averse to the Igbo identity keyed in. Today, without the persecution complex and war memories, one cannot be Igbo. That is why IPOB could make little inroads into Asaba but not the rest of Igbo speaking Delta state. Return Nigeria to it's precolonial state and Igbo ethnicity dissolves. Fact!
CultureRe: Igbo Origin Of The Ndoni And Aboh People - Ndoni Historian by clefstone(m): 11:30pm On Jul 19, 2023
Igboid:
Common sense is far from you.
The argument is not that some vagabonds and refugees from Bini, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Yoruba,Igala, Kafanchan, Timbuktu, Ur, Sumerian, Kemet, Mesopotamia, Anatolia, etc didn't migrate into Aboh.
The argument is that Aboh were already 98% of Igbo aboriginal stock in population, hence absorbed whoever migrated into the area.
You would think this should be common sense, but common sense is far from folks like you.

The Itsekiri you speak of also have sections of it that migrated from Western Igbo.

The Bini has Igbo migrants, Yoruba migrants, Igala migrants, Ijaw migrants, Nupe migrants, etc.
That's the way the world is, everyone welcomed good strangers in their midst,on the condition that the strangers have to lose the language and culture of wherever they are coming from, and embrace the language and culture of their new hosts and home.
For the umpteenth time= This is common sense.This is why you have to pass IELTS to get permanent stay in English speaking USA, Canada,UK, New Zealand, Australia. They welcome you, but you must lose your language and culture and assimilate into theirs. That process has been in place since antiquity and our ancestors practiced it as well. Grow up.

For example IdumuOka in Esan are of Awka origin in Igboland, but they migrated into Esan area and are today fully assimilated as Esan people.
It becomes ridiculous to now come and start saying that Esan is no longer Esan because few insignificant Igbos migrated into their midst and were welcomed and assimilated.
I had also given the example of Igbide people in Isoko whose Ancestors are a mixture of Awka and Mgbidi Igbos, but are today fully assimilated as Isokos.
Can we now say that Isoko should now acquire a new identity because of this? Nope. Igbos understand these things because we have common sense, this is why you will never see Igbos lay claim to any land where Igbo dialect is not the native language, irrespective of the people myth of originating from Igboland, we know better.

Most of you are ridiculous, your arguments are infantile, annoying and out of touch with comon sense.

It's an Ikegwuru situation.
All the places you have mentioned are different from Aboh in that the aboriginals were displaced by the Aboh migrants. It was clearly not a case of assimilation but conquest.

On the language stuff you keep talking about. Eastern Igbo speakers are from the Cameroon-Calabar/Akwa Ibom axis. It's obvious from their accent. They only copied the language of the people of the lower Niger region who controlled the trade around the region and thus their lives. That is why when an easterner and an Akwa Ibomite speak English, they sound alike. We are not the same, if you like go and die. We never consumed human flesh, our cultures are not similar

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