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diarra94

I am sorry but arguing with you is of no profit to me. I can't believe you just said cancer is a viral disease , you better log off NL and go learn more about cancer.

Cha Cha Cha Cha Cha - go look up cancer of the cervix and tell us what causes it.

your arguments are solely based on science and even the dates provided by archeologist but you're trying to disprove science . I asked you of adaptation and you mentioned the internet, is adaptation a human creation? like I said racial differences have been the root of most wars in history, if the bible is really a form of guidance for humans don't you think the bible would have addressed the issue of race and adaptation, the Bible's failure in doing that discredits its importance.

You are speaking as if the Bible dis-agrees with proven science - where did you get that notion from? The Bible confirmed the earth was round even before scientist discovered that in the 15th-17th century. So because the Bible didn't mention the word dinosaurs then it means the Bible is not scientific correct? What if the word dinosaur didn't exist at that time? When did we discover dinosaurs fossils? Dude - you can't argue from silence. It's like me asking you "Are you sleepy?" and if you don't respond then I will conclude that you are sleepy. Always, stop insisting that science and the Bible are mutually exclusive. Something being scientific doesn't mean it is at odds with the Bible or that it is mutually exclusive. So, if I make anyone accurate scientific proof that is found in the Bible, then it makes the Bible a scientific master-price? For the last time, stop arguing from silence, it makes you look very stupi.d

you see if you claim humans were in existence 250 million years you have automatically disproved the bible which doesn't account for humans existing over 6000 years ago.

Can you show me where in the Bible it claims that the creation of man started 6000 years ago. I really don't understand how you reason. The account of creation by the author of Genesis is as old as 6000 years - that means when Moses put pen to paper. It doesn't mean creation account of humans in the Bible is 6000 years old - do you have a brain at all?

a DNA sequence between the DNA if a man and that of a monkey showed very little variations in what we call switches. people find it offensive that we came from apes but if god really created humans why do humans still have ape features. every part of our body seems to be an modification of the apes body form.

This is called a theory. If you insist we came from ape - you should be able to sleep with an ape and get an off-spring. So, the burden of proof is on you. Please don't claim it happened over 10 million years or 100 million years because you weren't there and you can't prove crap - you are displaying the very same blind faith you are accusing others off. Please take a female ape, sleep with her or perform artificial insemination and let us see if you guys will have an off-spring; that should put an end to the matter

if god really created man in his image, then god himself must look like an ape . I wouldn't take an ape as a wife just as a lion wouldn't mate with a cheetah and a tilapia wouldn't mate a catfish even though they're of the same family.

Argument of logical inconsistency. You are claiming God looks like an ape, you claim apes are are closest relatives yet you are refusing to mate with one. For your information, go look up a Liger; it's a cross between a Lion and a Tiger and yes - they have off-spring. Go figure why a horse can mate with a donkey and have a mule. Gosh, you know so little about what you are talking about.

your arguments wouldn't change the fact that evolution rather than creation is used in all forms of biology which clearly evident, has been very successful. if god really made man unique, why do we test drugs and many other science experiments on apes before concluding if it safe for human use.

Again, you are showing your ignorance. In America and Western Europe; there is a big opposition to teaching creationism in higher level of learning. In as much as you will be sued and taken to court if you do. Even major scientist that take the creationist stand are ridiculed by their peers and institution, they get no grant money just because they want to stand up for what they have come to realize.

Always showing your ignorance again. The dealings of pharmaceutical companies cross so many boundaries. Experimental drugs are tested on rats, monkeys, apes, criminals on death row and here in the US - paid tests subject. Whichever is more economical is what they go with.

You still haven't answered my question, if the dinosaurs predates man - how come man was able to print and draw the dinosaurs close to 250 million years ago?

Regarding the images you posted below - can you please show me proof of any of those stages as they changed. Are there any documented changes i.e. evidence of how one fish grew legs and how man came from the fish. Remember, this is science, we should be able to observe it and possibly reproduce it. I will find it sad that your only proof is a picture taken from an evolution website.

You want another proof of God - go figure why telling time is based on Jesus - BC and AD - that should give you some clue

diarra94

the same way you can't find evidences for creation except in the bible. of course not everything in science can be proven with the knowledge available but that doesn't mean its not true. afterall the earth was thought to be in the centre of the universe or even flat until scientist in the past centuries disproved that idea.

Are you deluded, did I ever claim the Bible can prove God created the universe? No one can prove creation. My stance is simple - creation as well as evolution requires faith. To say evolution is based on proven science is at best stupid and devoid of basic reasoning. If everything can't be proven by the knowledge we have now yet you still claim it is scientific, what is that called?

the bible itself is made up of all those manuscripts which were written in ancient calligraphy and on poor paper such that people trying to interprete the writings had troubles understanding and translating the words. some kings and monarchs even changed complete books or chapters to favour their ideas.

Bros, there are over 15,000 early manuscript just for the new testament alone from different times, regions, countries and some dating back as early as the first century. If you recompile them as they are today; you will get exactly what is in the New Testament. So, if you want to show your intellectual bankruptcy on the subject; please point us to authoritative examples showing major differences and additions you are referring to.

just as I said, the bible can only be proved by the rubbish it contains. After all these, Hitler murdered over 6 million jews like it was a walk in the park. a holocaust survivor was interviewed and he said many people prayed to god before being thrown into the gas chambers. after finally realising that that there was no way out and this was the end, they cried "there is no god".

You asked for proof of events that has happened as recorded in the Bible. I provided an authoritative reference on Cyrus which you can refer to outside of the Bible. Yet you ignore that and insist on showing public display of your stupidi.ty.

any please if you may?

Haba Bros - choose one na!

I just need you to answer the question

Please repeat the question, I lost the context.

Empiree

To briefly answer your last post, I think you missing the point all the while. Quran revelation predates modern science discoveries. Just bcus scientists haven't discover some things doesn't mean Quran wrong. This is the question i posted to you earlier but you didnt understand it. But this your last post suggests to me that you proved my point. I think you need to put these pieces together.

Bros, how can you claim you have a house and yet no one has seen it? The theory is simple - Adam was 90 feet tall and all humans then was 90 feet tall. That means that millions of people where 90 feet tall. We have fossils of dinosaurs Bros. At least, we should have found ONE remain of a 90 foot man.

Let me remind you what i asked earlier. You or cloudstar claim a man could not have been 60cubits tall. According to CloudStar it was impossible. And I asked if Scientists have discovered and proved Quran allegation to be correct, that Adam(as) was 90 feet tall you would have believed it. And i said the reason you would believe it is bcus of science (discovery). Something Quran already proven some 1400yrs ago. Your last post proves my point.

This is not a matter of science. It's a matter of evidence

diarra94

look, if einsteins theory wasn't practical I wouldn't have cared about him or his work.

It is provable science. Any science that can be measured, monitored, repeated should be endorse by anyone. Any science which can't should be done away with. Evolution at best is crap - how can you prove that we came from fish? In what way can you monitor that or observe it?

but when you talk about the Bible, a book that has been rewritten by so many different writers who have altered and changed so many times due to the fact that the writers had little understanding of the language or the manuscripts were old and the writings were hard to read. some even changed the words in the manuscripts to suite their personal needs.

Which are you claiming has been changed, the Bible or the early manuscripts that predates the Bible?

here's a question for you, have you seen the bible doing any of what it claims to do?

At this point, it's clear that you haven't studied the Bible. Let's give you some Bible Study

1. The prophet Isaiah foretold that a conqueror named Cyrus would destroy seemingly impregnable Babylon and subdue Egypt along with most of the rest of the known world. This same man, said Isaiah, would decide to let the Jewish exiles in his territory go free without any payment of ransom (Isaiah 44:28; 45:1; and 45:13). Isaiah made this prophecy 150 years before Cyrus was born, 180 years before Cyrus performed any of these feats (and he did, eventually, perform them all), and 80 years before the Jews were taken into exile.

2. The prophet Moses foretold (with some additions by Jeremiah and Jesus) that the ancient Jewish nation would be conquered twice and that the people would be carried off as slaves each time, first by the Babylonians (for a period of 70 years), and then by a fourth world kingdom (which we know as Rome). The second conqueror, Moses said, would take the Jews captive to Egypt in ships, selling them or giving them away as slaves to all parts of the world. Both of these predictions were fulfilled to the letter, the first in 607 B.C. and the second in 70 A.D. God's spokesmen said, further, that the Jews would remain scattered throughout the entire world for many generations, but without becoming assimilated by the peoples or of other nations, and that the Jews would one day return to the land of Palestine to re-establish for a second time their nation (Deuteronomy 29; Isaiah 11:11-13; Jeremiah 25:11; Hosea 3:4-5 and Luke 21:23-24). This prophetic statement sweeps across 3500 years of history to its complete fulfillment—in our lifetime.

I will leave you to ponder over those two.

everything in the world disproves the existence of god. why don't you give me a single non biblical proof of God's existence.

This depends on your idea of proof. Are you asking for a physical proof or a logical proof?

you also haven't answered my question, how do you explain the existence of savages in most part of the world before colonialism.

Why is this question necessary again?

diarra94

you are completely using science to prove your assertions. bible doesn't fhucking talk about adapting to our environment??

Are you high - the Bible doesn't talk about so many things either. The Bible doesn't talk about the Internet but we use Internet, it doesn't talk about driving a car either. Science has nothing to do with evolution you baboon - evolution is totally based on faith

don't say that's irrelevant because most problems in history are based on race. wow you just made a statement out of your own will, how can you say humans dont mutate?? explain cancer to me then.

Stupidi.ty must be rampant where you come from. How does cancer have anything to do with humans mutating? Go back to your basic traceable and provable science. Cancer is caused by viruses and we all KNOW THAT VIRUSES ARE NON LIVING ORGANISMS. They only survive in hosts but other than that, they can't live. Mutations have no bearing in cancer or in humans

if we humans stay in our respective environments for more prolonged periods of time, there will be more apparent differences between us.

I didn't disagree with this statement. I concur that our environments make us to adapt in different ways. However, if a man lived close to the water for a prolong time - HE WILL NOT TURN INTO A FISH. If you are stating he will; please produce a traceable case study.

I asked you about dinosaurs to test your level of intelligence but it turns out its not that great. dinosaurs existed everywhere on earth and being such vicious and large carnivores, primitive humans stood no chance against them. they would have devoured humans to extinction.

Cha Cha Cha Cha Cha. Your problem is that you blindly follow the so called "scientific experts" without doing any objective research or ask probing questions. If dinosaurs predates man, how do you explain the "human-like footprints" embedded in 250-million-year-old coal veins in Kentucky, Illinois, Missouri, and westward toward the Rocky Mountains?

Here is another one for you - How does scientists explain the presence of an antiquated dinosaur petroglyph at the base of Kachina Bridge in southeast Utah? According to the theory of evolution, humans never lived with dinosaurs. But if humans never saw living dinosaurs, how did the Anasazis, who inhabited southeastern Utah long before dinosaur fossils were found in modern times, carve such an accurate picture of a dinosaur onto the side of a rock wall? - Go crack that nut before you tell me about the crap you read and listen to by evolutionist.

the bible mentioned many animals which were much less threats but not once was the dinosaur described. explain how such a prominent animal was ignored in the flawed bible.

Let me give you a piece of advice. In an open forum when you are debating someone, you don't argue from silence. The Bible mentioned clean and unclean animals that went into the ark. It never mentioned animals by name nor did it describe the animal based on their height of eating habits.

just as there is very little genetic difference between humans and apes.

Oh yeah - then take an ape for your wife and let us see what your kids will look like

of course there will be only physical difference between humans or were you expecting our genetic composition to change due to a hundred years of isolation on different continents. I don't care about a report by Reuters , so does one man's flawed understanding of the human genome have to be used to disprove proven facts. honestly people like you who feel they know everything even without proof are the cause of Africa's stagnant development

How would you care? You can't prove one single thing you claim yet you are 100% sure that the alternatives are wrong. As a scientist, if there ia a better explanation to the creation of our world, our universe, us - I am all for it. However, evolution doesn't come close.

Empiree: Dont pay him no mind. Sometimes they should be ignored. He and Cloudstar have been bothering LagosShia on the other thread for days now over 90 feet (60 cubits). They want scientific evidence.

Don't we have evidence of dinosaurs. If Adam and the early humans as the Quran claimed were over 60 cubits tall; shouldn't we have some fossil evidence? I thought the Quran is a scientific accurate book?

Rilwayne001: Exactly, have been following the other thread where you'v been argueing with them. i just feel like why dont you just ignore these loons

If you can't engage in spirited discussions - don't visit NL.

AlBaqir: https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/198/300/mritems/Images/2014/8/16/2014816201428844734_20.jpg

Islamic state group 'executes 700' in Syria
http://m.aljazeera.com/se/2014816123945662121

Why are you complaining - isn't it Muslims killing Muslims? When it's Muslims killing non-Muslims you will shut your trap

usba: Fixed

And we thought you learned how to write in school

diarra94

wow now I get it, you do not understand evolution at all. there is no point at which we started changing, we have always been changing and we will always be changing. this doesn't occur in a day or a year or a 1000 years but over millions of years.

Bros - you are hear calling others stupid for having faith in God yet you are the one that can't prove evolution but "believe" in the "million of years" crap that can't be proven scientifically or historically. I wonder who has blind faith

we are made of living cells, they always mutate and change in complexity. in fact evolution is evident in humans, after separating for just a few hundred thousand years, why do you find different races on every continent, because we have adapted to our environment.

Malu - adaptation is different from evolution. Africans have adapted to their environment, we are used to the heat, the malaria the environment. The same way Icelanders and Russians are used to the cold. If an African goes to Iceland, he doesn't become big-foot; he doesn't "mutate", he adapts to his environments. We are made of different kinds, humans are their own kind, fish their own kind and apparently idiots of their own kind

explain race to me with biblical scriptures. explain to me how the bible does not speak of dinosaurs when their bones are found on every continent and how humans survived the dinosaurs. and what about the meteor that hit the earth?

Did the Bible talk about the Internet, did the Bible speak about Chiwawas either? Bros - put these in perspective. Here is a summary on your race question:

Some have wondered, if we are all descendants of Adam and Eve, why are there so many races? The Bible informed us 2,000 years ago that God has made all nations from "one blood." We are all of the same race—the "human race," descendants of Adam and Eve, something science is slowly coming to realize.

Reuters news service reported the following article by Maggie Fox: Science may have caught up with the Bible, which says that Adam and Eve are the ancestors of all humans alive today. Peter Underhill of Stanford University in California remarked on findings published in the November 2000 issue of the journal Nature Genetics . . . Geneticists have long agreed there is no genetic basis to race—only to ethnic and geographic groups. "People look at a very conspicuous trait like skin color and they say, ‘Well, this person’s so different’ ...but that’s only skin deep," Underhill said. "When you look at the level of the Y chromosome you find that, gee, there is very little difference between them. And skin color differences are strictly a consequence of climate."

GO FIGURE

tunshe: He wrongly quoted Q50 vs 23. What he said is different from what is in the verse.

He's just a free thinker who has a shallow knowledge of Islam and got media attention to mislead people.

That is what every Muslim says when a Muslim leaves Islam for another religion.

alcuin: Please let's stay on the topic. Ok?

You brought it up Bros. If you stick to the confines of the topic, I will do the same.

diarra94

OK now you're just starting to sound ignorant. why should I kill Adolf Hitler when god knowingly created him

It's a simple question but you are ignoring it. Let me put it another way. If you helped a hadicap elderly man in a wheel chair to get into the grocery store because he couldn't get in by himself. You felt good that you did something decent. You went home and on the breaking news, said that there was a mass shooting and killing at that grocery store. The elderly man you had helped was the culprit - he was angry and upset at the world for "taking" his wife away from him.

My question to you is this - "If you knew 110% what that man was going to do before you helped him, would you have helped him?"

a recent survey showed that atheist contributed more towards charity than any other faith in america. as humans we all have a conscience and we are subjected to the laws of physics and nature.

No one is claiming that Atheist don't have a conscience of can't be morally good people

you people forget that just a few hundred years ago , our ancestors were living in the jungle as savages with no understanding of life and reason. they killed each other as they pleased because humans were not created but evolved from animals and as our brains brains became larger and more complex we started g rasping knowledge about our world. how else would you explain the savage tribes of africa and south Americas if we all supposedly came from Adam and eve who had a concept of life.

Another evolutionist - . I am more interested in how we came from fish? Can you prove the missing link - how we humans came from a tapole or a toad or some fish that lived 500 million years ago? Can you tell me at what point, we started changing? In what year did we loose our fins and became snakes. How about the missing link showing how we turned from snakes to monkeys - perhaps your "science" can prove that - I dey wait

malvisguy212: brother, I greet you, happy sunday, I enjoy your post as usual. May God bless you.

Thanks Bro and may the good Lord bless you and yours this sunday as well

diarra94

your arguments are completely off. Albert Einstein theory of relativity is practical and can be tested in your presence.

You are missing my point. I wasn't claiming his theory can't be proven. I was stating we don't need to physically see the man to believe in his work. I never met him and I shouldn't have to meet him to know that his work pioneer modern day physics. I never met the founding founders of America but I believe they drew up and wrote the constitution of the US because I can trace the evidence and historical record to prove they did. I never met Matthew, Mark, Luke and John but we have their earliest manuscripts that predates the compilation of the Bible and gave their accounts of Jesus, what He did and who He was. That is not fable, that is history

radio waves and infrared are spectrums that are invisible to the human eye but yet they can be controlled and transfered and they do exist.

You have proven my point - it is invisible yet we still believe in it - that was ll I was trying to pass across.

why did god even require Mary to conceive Jesus? a bunch of people with limited resources and technology were trying to build a tower to reach heaven and then god confuses them by creating different languages?? really??, this wouldn't even make it in a kids bedtime story. I guess burj khalifa isn't made of sticks and strings that god can easily destroy. why are all religions confined to a certain location? why is the whole world not of one religion? this is due to the fact that everywhere you go on the planet, people have created religions that suite their culture.

All your questions doesn't negate what we have today Bros. It's your personal opinion to believe what you want to believe and what you don't want to believe. However, to claim what others believe are fables without providing authoritative sources is at best laughable

SangoCrusader: Your 2 cents or 2 million cents .

I have read all you wrote this Sunday morning and none of it is relevant. I do not know why Christians like to use an incoherent and controversial bible to defend their religion. Can we just use common sense to discuss abeg because I am no longer Christian so quoting scriptures to me from a dubiously-compiled storybook in a debate is of little value.

Can you just answer this question please @cloudstar... is it ever justifiable to kill a suckling baby, regardless of how wicked it's parents were?

You used the Bible to make a statement, so I have to use the Bible to answer your question. That’s like saying you can’t prove that the President lives in the White House by looking into the White House. It is looking into the White House that will provide the necessary proof.

I asked you a question regarding Adolf Hitler but so far you have ignored me

GodMode: because that's what "men of god" of been planting in people's minds for centuries. It's hard to ignore the norm.

You still haven't answered my question Bros. How do you know your creator, how do you relate to him? Does anyone else know this "creator"

alcuin: We believe in science because it is VERIFIABLE.
None of your bedtime stories are.

Boy oh boy - you want to open a whole new can of worms. I am a scientist and I believe in proven science. Which science are you referring to? Evolution?

Empiree

true2god and CloudStar, the fact is you are folks that already made up your mind. Why do you think i have to argue with you. Nothing we say will make sense to you. So what's the point. Scholars of Islam, past and present work on ahadith. They have tried hard to separate fabricated ahadith from authentic, from weak ones. Just because it's in Sahih does not mean Bukhari wrote it.

Then who wrote the Hadiths in question? Remember I told you this - nearly every school of Islamic jurisprudence agree and confirms that Sahih AlBukhari is one of the most authentic and authoritative Hadiths in Islamic Theology. If you are claiming it is fabricated, you have to show another author during the time of AlBukhari that confirmed if was fabricated and tell us why. Responding to a claim that it is fabricated doesn't do it justice.

For instance, Jizya (tax) and Zakat (Arms giving) are permitted in Quran. But there is a famous authentic hadith that speak of the return of Jesus(as). In that hadith, it says Jizya will be abolished. This is false. Yet, it's within authentic hadith.

Irrelevant - we are talking about Mohammad marrying a 6 year old and consummating his marriage with her at 9. That is in the Hadith, if you claim it is fabricated and false - you will have to show us who from the earliest sources of Islamic history is claiming it is false. pasting youtube video if clerics born in the 21st century falls way short of any defense. Honestly, it is making you look stup.id

Fabricated ahadith are not those devoid of "common sense". Rather, their obvious contradiction of primary source of guidance, Qur'an. Qur'an is standard and protection guaranteed. But God did not promise to protect Hadith. Hadith is like Bible (mixed up of truth and falsehood, suspicious hearsays). But we can not avoid hadith. And you see, none can guide you guys except God Almighty.. So keep having fun.

You just summed up your stupi.dity. Do you know that some of of the founding instructions in Islam is not found in the Quran. For example, the instruction to pray 5 times a day is not found in the Quran, it is from the Hadith. So, if you are claiming parts of the Hadiths are authentic and others are fabricated, you should use a standard of judgement to determine that - we are asking for that standard.

Your Quran claimed that Adam was 60 cubit tall. Your Quran in places said the earth was created in 6 days, in other places it said 8 - we are not sure which is which. This is the same book you are claiming is divine. How can Almighty God if he gave the Quran as His final word not know how many days he created the earth. Keep on believing what you want to believe Bros - you are accountable for your life when you meet your God

true2god: You are talking nonsense, as usual. Since you claimed an hadith is fabricated, it is expected of you, as someone who knows the original from the fabricated one, to provide the original hadith for your argument to have any form of credibility. How do you expect me to take you serious when you are using 'fabricated' to deny an obvious facts in your hadith while your Islamic 'scholars' are desperately trying to justify the fact the Adam was 6cubit tall and the reasons it was appropriate for your prophet to marry a 6yr old girl.

Hadith is a good source of\for Islamic laws and customs, more than 80% of sharia laws are gotten from the hadith which hows its importance in Islmic theology. Why will hadith become 'useless' and the quran supreme anytime any inconsistency is raised in your hadith? You compare the bible with the hadith while your more than 90% of the content of ur quran was plagarized from the Bible.

I repeat, lies and hypocrisy are very compatible with Islam\muslims.

Well said

true2god: Can you please provide the 'non-fabricated and authentic' hadith for the sake of this argument?

Ha - you will kill him oh! His response are the youtube links

GodMode: Now u get the point I was planting in your head.

God is an imagination.

The creator is not.

Actually, it is the contrary. Your "creator" is imaginative because you are the only one that knows him. Christians are close to 3 billion people and they all claim to know the very same God. So who is imagining what?

GodMode: Hmm the "christian concept".. I don't believe in the "religious concept" of a man they call god. I don't believe in religion.

The creator I believe in is of neutral attitude.

So your 'creator' is imaginative?

SangoCrusader: God told the Israelites to slaughter all the Amalekites. Kill all men, women, children, animals and SUCKLING BABIES. Any God that can do that is just as bad as Boko Haram. Why do Christians always ignore this passage? It shows that God is wicked and vengeful and if I were not an atheist, I would rather follow Lucifer! "Kill all sucking babies"... smh.

Any Christian that ignores any passage of the Bible no matter how difficult it is doesn't know their history or is simply ignorant. You question can be answered several ways. Before I do, I am aware that there are people (maybe yourself) that might take exceptions to what I have to say.

God didn’t confine His wrath to the Canaanites only. He proclaimed the death sentence upon the whole of humanity. We will all die because we have broken God’s Law. Every one of us is waiting on death row. Instead of standing in moral judgment over Almighty God, we need to judge ourselves according to the Law of God. We will find that we have a multitude of sins and therefore are deserving of punishment. Yet God, out of love, paid the penalty for our sin so we would not have to.

Moving forward, I will propose a question to you before doing justice to it. Here is my question - "If you were alive during the birth of Adolf Hitler and knew 110% that he would kill millions of innocent people and cause calamity on a global scale - what would you do?"

To answer your question, we have to refer to the Bible and the context of these events. Here is what the Bible said about the Israelites:

"It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm the oath which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. (Deuteronomy 9:5)

Okay, how "wicked" could those people have been? How about killing their own sons and daughters by burning them in sacrifices to their gods.

"You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. (Deuteronomy 12:31)

Let us look at the character of God. Did God kill any innocent people along with the evil ones? When God was about to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham asked God if He would destroy the cities if there were 50 righteous people in them. God said no. Then Abraham asked the same question if there were 45 righteous people. Every time he dropped the number and got the same answer. The fact is that God would not have destroyed those cities if there were any righteous people in them. The few righteous who were in those cities He warned ahead of time to get out.So, God does not destroy the righteous along with the evil - Please keep in mind the question I asked you about Adolf Hitler.

The Christian concept of God is that He can't and will not stand sin in any form. Just the way a judge would pass judgement for crime is the same way God passes judgement for sin. If critics like you would take the time to study the Bible and make an honest evaluation of the principles of God’s justice, wrath, and love, he would see the perfect and harmonious interplay between them. God’s vengeance is not like the impulsive, irrational, emotional outbursts of pagan deities or human beings. He is infinite in all His attributes and thus perfect in justice, love, and anger. Just as God’s ultimate and final condemnation of sinners to eternal punishment will be just and appropriate, so the temporal judgment of wicked people in the Old Testament was ethical and fair. We human beings do not have an accurate handle on the gravity of sin and the deplorable nature of evil and wickedness. Human sentimentality is hardly a qualified measuring stick for divine truth and spiritual reality.

How incredibly ironic that the atheist, the agnostic, the skeptic, and the liberal all attempt to stand in judgment upon the ethical behavior of God when, if one embraces their position, there is no such thing as an absolute, objective, authoritative standard by which to pronounce anything right or wrong. As the French existentialist philosopher, Sartre, admitted: “Everything is indeed permitted if God does not exist.... Nor...are we provided with any values or commands that could legitimize our behavior” (1961, p. 485). The atheist and agnostic have absolutely no platform on which to stand to make moral or ethical distinctions—except as the result of purely personal taste. The mere fact that they concede the existence of objective evil is an unwitting concession there is a God Who has established an absolute framework of moral judgments.

Those who disagree with God’s annihilation of the wicked in the Old Testament have the same liberal attitude that has come to prevail in America just in the last half century. That attitude has typically opposed capital punishment, as well as the corporal punishment of children. Such people simply cannot see the rightness of evildoers being punished by execution or physical pain. Nevertheless, their view is skewed—and the rest of us are being forced to live with the results of their warped thinking: undisciplined, out-of-control children are wreaking havoc on our society by perpetrating crime to historically, all-time high levels.

Those who reject the ethics of God’s destructive activity in the Old Testament, to be consistent, must reject Jesus and the New Testament. Over and over again, Jesus and the New Testament writers endorsed and defended such activity (e.g., Luke 13:1-9; 12:5; 17:29-32; 10:12; Hebrews 10:26-31). The Bible provides the only logical, sensible, meaningful, consistent explanation regarding the principles of retribution, punishment, and the conditions under which physical life may be extinguished.

This is my 2 cents on the matter

GodMode: It(the creator) showed itself to me.

Let me get this straight. You don't believe in the Christian concept of God and you deny it yet you believe in a 'creator' that only you know about?

GodMode: The creator is the creator.

Okay. How do you know the creator?

GodMode: The creator is not god.

Okay, who is the creator?

Empiree

Coming from someone who believes Adam was 60 cubits tall yet doesn't believe Mohammad married a 6 year old child - Cha; stupidi.ty is indeed a curse

GodMode: The bible can not accurately tell future. The bible and other "holy books" are scripts that are been followed thereby making it seem like its predicting the future. There is no god

If you are looking for the winning numbers of the lottery - no book will give that to you as well. What is your basis for claiming that there is no God?

GodMode: The bible and other "holy books" is a script and a way to keep blacks from reality.

You don't say - care to explain what you are talking about?

GodMode: There is no god
(I know people are gonna quote "the fool says in his bla bla bla)...

If Africans were more focused on reality they will be better by now.
Religion is man made.

Why hasn't your god removed ebola from nigeria

If God removes Ebola from Nigeria does that make him any less God or does that give you a ground to believe in Him?

chukwudi44: The Bible contains 73 books and not 66.The actual breakdown is 46 books in the old testament and 27 in the new testament.Please kindly correct that.

Which Bible are you referring to?