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Jokes.

The same executive actions that we watch him ask what they are and the handlers tell him, then he proceeds to sign without reading. Because he can’t read?

I’d like to live in your reality where I see what I want to see .

raumdeuter:
Trump has the energy to do all that and still govern

He has taken more question from the press than any president before him, His mind is very sharp,
During th campaign he was doing 2-3 different stops a day, going to 3hrs podcast and barely taking a rest
On the inauguration ay, he got sworn in, spoke to his supporters for hours, went to inauguration ball and spent hours signing Executive orders and explaining each of them
This isn't sleepy Joe who didn't know what he signed and spent half his time on the beach

bemeruca:
He is not a citizen, he organised a protest that destroyed properties and endangered the lives of citizens. How is that too complicated to understand?

He shut down a school operation.

He should be deported. Are you claiming he did not do all these things?

See how easily you can find compassion for property and school operations but somehow you’re unable to understand that a Palestinian watching his homeland be destroyed might be upset too?

Let’s first subject you to cruelty of helplessly watching your own people get slaughtered and then tell you to be respectful with your reaction. When you are able to accomplish that, mention me and we can talk. As for now, I don’t entertain or validate POVs that don’t recognize the humanity of others.

Before you Oct 7th me, I know. I don’t think the perpetrators are supposed to go free either. Committing a genocide is not answer either. And causing the problems that led to that whole situation in the first place was not the move either.

Hold your peace.

IjeBos:
No, this is not a recent picture. This is a picture of the last time Trump was in office in 2020.
Seems familiar, no?
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Chaos then, Chaos now.

I have to agree with this
He thinks the office is a joke and he can talk anyhow. America is a powerful country and the office of the president is a powerful office. No occupant of that office should be acting like it’s a joke. Running mouth with half baked knowledge and then often walking back the damage after the fact.

He talks too much. 174 internet posts yesterday. Most of it was plain bladder dash. When was he finding time to preside? He really needs to shut up and stop talking us deeper into a hole.

I can’t believe I’m saying this but I miss when presidents used to boring

While investors watched in horror as the stock market plunged on Monday as a result of President Donald Trump’s sprawling trade wars, he was busy reposting praise for his administration on Truth Social.

The president posted over a hundred times between noon and 6 p.m. on Monday while the Nasdaq fell 4 percent, marking its worst day since 2022. The S&P 500 dropped almost 3 percent.

The Magnificent 7 tech stocks—Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Meta Platforms, Microsoft, Nvidia, and Tesla—all fell, with Elon Musk’s car brand taking the biggest hit with a 15 percent tumble.

Trump was also online, making 25 posts on Truth Social in the span of six minutes just before noon. He took a break and returned in the late afternoon to make over a hundred more posts.

The president mostly reposted articles praising his administration on a wide variety of issues, from the very tariffs that sent the markets spiraling to deportation operations and even his speech to a joint session of Congress last week.

In many of those posts, Trump continued to hail the sweeping tariffs his administration imposed on goods from Canada, Mexico, and China, even as those policies spooked investors into a massive sell-off.

Crayfish09:
It has never been about terrorism for most Nigerians hre. Check any thread relating to the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar and see for yourself

I don’t know much about Rohingya genocide I will look into it.

But I grew up in Eastern Nigeria and partly in Lagos. So I understand and sympathize with the sentiment of anti extremism. Especially for those of us who lost friends or family who lived in the north during religious clashes.

But the solution can’t be that every single Muslim should be regarded as a terrorist. The way they just toss the term terrorist around as soon as it’s not a Christian involved is just cringe worthy

ObaIgwe1:
Despite all these 'waste' you accuse Democrats of, how come its the Republican that always balloon the deficit?

Let me quote coccandy summary as a pointer

They’ll say it’s propaganda

Obama didn’t lift us out of the worst recession in recent times.

Biden wasn’t improving the covid economy that Trump destroyed.

This current economic crisis and impending depression is not happening. Whatever you’re hearing, you didn’t hear it. Whatever you’re seeing, you didn’t see it.

Let’s wait for the dear leader to speak before we know what to believe. And even then it’s subject to interpretation depending on how it fits the narrative.

ObaIgwe1:
Even when that means millions of Americans will lose whatever little savings and assets they have and then struggle to survive?

It doesn't matter to you and the rich guys you fancy cos you can take advantage of it to get richer?

Is this really what Trump promised?

He said “we’re going to get so much richer” and his supporters thought he meant all of them together. No he meant him and his pals.

Nothing for the common man
Jobs are not welfare. We’re not supposed to be guaranteed jobs m. I bet by this line of reasoning too we’re not supposed to be guaranteed financial stability. It’s only for the select few I guess.

basilico:
Deporting a terrorist supporter who targeted Jewish students on campus? Making the.miss classes be cause their genocidal brothers were getting whacked by IDF after committing the worst war crimes this century.
How about Obama droning American citizens Anwar Al Alwaki and his son in Yemen, a country that was not at war with America.
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds

People don’t become terrorist supporters just because you say they are.Seeing the bodies of mutilated children and feeling the need to stand up in protest doesn’t make one a terrorist.

By that logic anyone who says anything you don’t like is a terrorist. Use that logic you claim to have in abundance of for once.

For the Nigerians here who support indiscriminate slaughter of humans because terrorists are hiding amongst them, just know that this could very well be you and your lineage.

They can use the excuse of boko haram is hiding amongst y’all to clean Nigeria off the face of the earth. And you shouldn’t be able to say anything since all is justified in the fight against terrorism.
How absolutely bizarre and unconscionable

Anyway

Play by play.

He’s not even attempting to hide it

From Democracy to Dictatorship

1. First, destroy labor unions, so people have no way to bargain for higher wages and less capacity for political organization.

2. Crack down on college students, so they won’t oppose you (hint: burden them with so much student debt and make it so hard for them to find good jobs that they won’t dare rock the boat).

3. Undermine public education, so people are less able to think critically for themselves.

4. Cut deals with rich business executives and billionaires that if they back you you’ll reduce their taxes, slash government spending on the poor, and eliminate regulations that impinge on their profits.

5. Make most people economically anxious, frustrated, angry, and insecure.

6. Convince them their problems stem from “them” — foreigners, immigrants, racial or ethnic or religious minorities, intellectuals.

7. Make them cynical about democracy.

8. Convince them all they need is a strongman who will fix everything.

9. Fill the airwaves with big lies.
10. Get elected, and then take over.

Oh we knew he was going to blame Ukraine . The absolute bonkers of him to do that.

SoftSport:
Fake news!

It looks like some people are still upset about the judicial system and the outcome of the election that brought Bola Ahmed Tinubu to power. Now, they’re spreading fake news, claiming that the Supreme Court upheld a death sentence for someone named Sunday Jackson for killing an armed herdsman.

There’s absolutely no truth to this story, it’s just another attempt to stir up emotions and push a false narrative. Always double-check your sources before believing or sharing such claims.

do you have the real story? If this is fake?

This is crazy

raumdeuter:
Why should anyone care if govt jobs are cut?

because they make the govt function?

As a result we are seeing companies starting to bring money into the US to manufacture in the country, create jobs and make the local economy better

the current local economy or another one?

These are the promises of Trump during the campaign, how refreshing to get a candidate who will actually deliver on campaign promises and not develop amnesia after being sworn in

We are still waiting for day one. Sounds to me he developed amnesia on those day one promises

AmazonTopaz:
Please where did you get the stats from? I would like to read it. Thank you.

Actually that was from a screenshot I didn’t want to post because it was lopsided and wonky. So I just lifted the text instead because I love how it summarizes everything.

Republicans are fond of claiming the economy as their reason for why they vote how they vote. When it’s on record that the democratic govt following them always have to dig is out of the recessions they cause.

But there are extensive details in these websites.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/29/tweets/republican-presidents-democrats-contribute-deficit/

https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/historical-puzzle-us-economic-performance-under-democrats-vs-republicans

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/democrats/2024/10/the-u-s-economy-performs-better-under-democratic-presidents

basilico:

I think you need a serious health check.
Debt Increase: The national debt rose by approximately $8 trillion during Obama's presidency, from about $10.6 trillion when he took office to around $18.1 trillion when he left.
Deficit Reduction: The annual budget deficit decreased from $1.2 trillion to $439 billion, showcasing a substantial improvement in fiscal management.

You not being in a straight jacket is the 8th wonder of the world.

basilico:
My siding with him is largely based on his perceptjons of terrorism and free speech.I came to this thread from the religion section of which I have no apologies to make to anyone ever and I stick by what I have ever posted there. He is the only world president bar political correctness to call it out in no uncertain terms.

He doesn’t censor free speech but he’s attempting to remove permanent residents from the country for peaceful protests? Something that is protected under the constitution. You don’t live in reality and I’ve said it several times.

So basically you don’t know what you’re talking about. And that’s okay sometimes once in a while. We can’t know everything.

But to consistently keep at it. Thesis after thesis. Even when it’s obvious you have no real idea or experience on who this man is begs the question why? Is it just an interesting topic for you? What are you hoping to get out of it? You don’t have to answer.

It’s all just rhetorical

Republican Ronald Reagan ADDED $74 billion to the deficit.

Republican George W. Bush ADDED $102 billion to the deficit.

Democrat Bill Clinton REDUCED the deficit by $383 billion, left a budget SURPLUS.

Republican George W. Bush ADDED $1.54 trillion to the deficit.

Democrat Barack Obama REDUCED the deficit by $825 billion.

Republican Donald Trump ADDED $2.1 trillion to the deficit

Democrat Joe Biden REDUCED the deficit by $942 billion.

Trump is back and we’re looking at another enormous depression looming.

Republicans have never not now, not in the past 50 years have they ever been good for the economy. But they know how to get votes by selling propaganda to the average folks who feel they’re on their way to becoming the next billionaire oligarchs.

basilico:
I'm no America, I don't worship Trump. He aligns to my thought process he doesn't want wars he doesn't want govt censoring people , he doesn't coddle terrorists, he does open press conferences with any journalists and he overcame the worst onslaught in history to win the presidency.

Reality means nothing to you.

Maeve7:
I wonder what it takes for them to stop worshipping him. Because this goes beyond support for a politician, they literally worship him. And he delivers nothing.

Nothing!

raumdeuter:
Was that a special program like VA or something in 2015?

3.5 in 2022 is believable

One was VA and one was not. You know the VA it can technically only be used for residential properties.

raumdeuter:
When I'm excited that lower rates are coming. I am already rate shopping

A recession might be an opportunity that won't come in another 5yrs

That’s not something to celebrate.
A recession only favors people who have spare cash to buy stuff when everyone else is struggling. This is why I can’t get behind you guys and this individualistic approach to existence.

Every recession sees a widening in the wealth gaps with struggling families losing more just to survive while the vast majority of the wealth goes to those who already have more.

First you guys said he would be amazing for the economy. That the American people voted for the economy because things were so hard for them.

Now you’re all but celebrating a recession because you can get lower interest rates due to decline in people’s purchasing power. Which is it? It’s almost as if all that talk about voting for the economy was hogwash. And we knew it.

In the year of our lord 2015. I got two rates for 2.75 and 2.9.

National Average was 3. Something.

Oh and I also got a 3.5 rate in 2022. But buying it down with some cash made it that way, so I’m not even counting that.

raumdeuter:
Which year was this 2-3% rate? Pre Trump did you get a 2 to 3 % rate? Rates are lower now than they were when Biden was leaving office

This is from a 2023 article
https://www.personalfinanceclub.com/mortgage-rates-are-the-highest-in-over-20-years/

https://www.personalfinanceclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/2023-08-24-Mortgage-rates-1024x1024.png

raumdeuter:
I have properties on >7% rates, Last week I was just told rates has hit 6.5% I am waiting to see if it reaches 5.5 so I can refi.

I am all for whatever Trump is cooking

And I have properties that preceded him at 2-3% before he ruined the economy and housing market his first go around. Before he ruined the economy Obama gifted us.

You’re suffering the effects of his first term and still supporting him. Now you’ll be grateful for 5% when you had it better before he came along.

Like tinubu taking the cost of petroleum from 450 to 1500. Then when he finally settles it at 800, he’ll tell the citizens to be happy because he’s saved the country money.

😳

Maeve7:
What are you smoking?

Something that should’ve clearly been banned from public consumption

Botragelad:
Oh, I'm not trying to rage bait, just stating my opinion. Since this is the 'American politics' thread, I thought it would be nice to gauge your thoughts on the matter. Was I wrong?

There’s no way you’ve read my posts in the past without seeing that I clearly would not be in support of Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Or Trump’s distasteful “solution” of moving them out of their homeland in favor of owning the place for himself and his friends.

You cannot convince me that Oct 7 is the beginning of all the problems in that region. Everyone knows it’s not.
Or that Israel is an innocent country “protecting” itself.

You also do not need to lecture me on the dangers of Islamic extremism. I know that well enough. But I do feel like you could use some lessons on the dangers of zionism. Although, but I won’t be the person to talk to you about that. Just because I know you won’t be receptive to that information.

And If you believe every Palestinian is a terrorist, I’m not interested in going back and forth with you on the subject.

Hope this summary is helpful so you don’t have to feel the need to ask me again or try to discuss this subject further.

Botragelad:
In my humble opinion, thus far, I'd say Trump's handling of the Israel-Hamas war has been rather good. At the very least, under the new US government, terrorists won't be encouraged with the prospect of getting their own state.

What do you reckon, cococandy?

This has to be a very poor attempt at rage bait. Lmao.

What science or health qualification does he have to determine what the food safety standards are?
Why is he promoting a culture of mistrust for experts in their respective fields?

If we have a disease outbreak in the future where hundreds or thousands die because of this decision, you guys will say he’s being unfairly covered in the news.

How can one person be this ignorant and unwilling to learn. You know whatever he eats will be safe because the White House culinary team will make sure of that.

But he doesn’t mind endangering the public to save a few bucks towards the tax cuts he wants to give his rich friends. All of you supporting this are complicit and all I can say is that I hope none of you or your loved ones will be on the receiving end of it.

The Trump administration has officially eliminated several food safety committees, including the U.S. Department of Agriculture's National Advisory Committee on Microbiological Criteria for Foods (NACMCF) and the National Advisory Committee on Meat and Poultry Inspection (NACMPI). Both were cut through the Executive Order titled "Commencing the Reduction of the Federal Bureaucracy." As the order stated, it eliminates offices and committees that the "President has determined are unnecessary."


“The termination of these two important advisory committees is very alarming and should serve as a warning to consumers that food safety will not be a priority at USDA in the foreseeable future," Brian Ronholm, director of food policy at Consumer Reports, shared in a statement provided to Food & Wine. "These expert panels provide impartial scientific advice and recommendations to USDA, FDA, and the CDC on public health issues related to food safety in the U.S. The failure to recognize and leverage the value of this scientific expertise is dangerous and irresponsible.

Facts don’t care about your feelings.
If the economy is down it’s down. It’s not opinion dependent.
If we have a preventable disease outbreak because someone is sowing misinformation and distrust in science and healthcare, then that’s what it is.

If we are having lower than normal food safety standards because someone promised billionaire manufacturers less regulations, then he’s to blame for the consequences. It’s not made up. It’s his fault

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basilico:
I am of the opinion that every action and decision has negative and positive effects
When it is Joe Biden media coverage of him was positive and glowing almost saint like.
With Trump it's all about gloom ,doom, gates of hell and sinking into the abyss.

basilico:
Everything I hear about Trump is always an extrapolation into the future in the most negative way .
If Trump cured cancer and heart diseases they would decry the loss of business to funeral service providers
Useless people.

The job losses, declining economy, worsening inflation, loss of international goodwill, disease outbreaks due to anti-science and anti-vax rhetorics, are not the future. It’s here and it’s happening now.

Let’s not even delve into the atrocities of his first term. Constant food recalls because he favored cutting regulations for wealthy manufacturers rather than protecting consumers. Unnecessarily high covid deaths because he politicized a pandemic he didn’t have the competence to handle. Those weren’t the future. They happened (I personally experienced it. I did not read it in a right wing propaganda page like you) and it was as a result of his actions.

Just because you guys refuse to live in reality doesn’t mean all of us are existing in that alternate reality with you. Get real!

Your family members need to get together and stop her from leaving. She’ll thank you guys in the future.

Part of the reason for chaos he’s creating is to distract from the actual authoritarian regime he’s installing

Hampton Dellinger, the fired head of the Office of Special Counsel, warns that President Trump's ouster of independent watchdog agencies and offices threatens government oversight.

Dellinger was head of the Office of Special Counsel, which handled federal employee complaints and government whistleblowers, until he was fired in February. In addition to Dellinger, Trump also removed the director of the Office of Government Ethics, the independent agency responsible for overseeing ethics rules and financial disclosures for the executive branch, and 17 inspectors general, auditors appointed to root out abuses of power, waste and mismanagement

The 17 inspectors general fired by Mr. Trump just four days into his term were auditors of top departments, including defense, veterans affairs, and labor. The inspector general of the foreign aid agency, U.S. Agency for International Development, Paul Martin was fired two weeks later.

Martin, who policed billions in foreign aid spending, issued a report saying emergency aid stopped moving during the chaos of the mass firings at USAID. His report warned that half a billion dollars in food aid might spoil or be stolen. Martin was fired the next day.

Martin had worked in various inspector general offices for more than two decades. He was an inspector general during Mr. Trump's first term and stayed on at the government under Biden. Martin said the firings aren't business as usual with a new president in the White House.

"Dismantling" independent oversight in D.C.
"He may bring his own team in, but there's been an agreement between Congress and administrations over the last 45 years that inspector generals are different," Martin said. "They're chosen to be apolitical, nonpartisan oversight officials in each government agency. And that has been respected from administration to administration

Maeve7:
MAGA

This is scary actually. it’s even predicted to be a depression not a recession

Now compare this to the up and rising economy Biden left for him. That man was quietly working. Not seeking attention. Cleaning up the mess from the Covid economy Trump made. Of course it was going to take time after the big mess Trump left behind. But it was working. Jobs created. Household Income increased. Inflation was going down. And Kamala was going to take over the reins and crack down on companies that price gouged. We could’ve had it all.

These people chose a clown who destroyed the first greatest economy we’ve had in a long time (Obama’s economy) and now he’s set on destroying it again after Biden did so much to help us recover from his first term .