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seeklove:Yes reincarnation was one of the issues discussed at the council of Nicea but it was not the major issue. It was quickly voted out. The majore issues were Trinity, and the nature of Christ. Go to a historian and find out. |
please read from true christians http://www.keyway.ca/htm2000/20000601.htm Hades in bibiical context simply means death. Sheolhttp://www.keyway.ca/htm2000/20000601.htm |
1. Paradise, before Christ's resurrection, was part of Hades (the place of the Unseen). After Christ's resurrection, those who used to be in Paradise are now in Heaven, so can we then say that Paradise was left behind in "Hades"? Of course not, the inhabitants were now in Heaven, which gives for my statement that paradise "moved" to heaven, I was talking about the "contents" of Paradise.I still cant get over the above. This is wow!!!!!!. Everyline is completely unscriptuaral. This is what religioues famaticism can cause. The pastor who invented these tails should be given an award!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What about the parable of the rich man and the poor man. The poor man died and went to the bossom of abraham while the rich man suffered in hell. By your theory I guess Abraham was in hell, hades, gehana, or whatever you chose to call it. [i]"The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried; and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus in his bosom. And he called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy upon me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in anguish in this flame.'"[/i]Luke 16:19-31 One went to bossom of Abraham and the other went to hades. Not the same place!!!!! The one in hades lifted up his eyes and saw the one in Abrahams bossom far off. 'far off' means far away. 'lifted' means to raise.therefore Abrahams bosom is far off and above Hades just like haven is far off and above the earth. There are not the same place!! the poor man was carried off by angels!! Since when do angels carry people to hades ??If they are the same, how come one is suffering and the other is enjoying. Your pastor deserves an award. I must tell readers that what you wrote is your opinion or your pastors opinion and not what every Chritian beleives, neither is it bibilical. Catholic definition of hell is absence of God. There can be no paradise in hell. |
Mavenb0x:Here you said it. Mavenb0x:case closed. Seeklove gets to keep his degree. Please what do you mean by the kingdom of Satan, if not hell. |
Seun:If my evidence is not compelling, look through the rest of her posts and you will see. I only provided a little. If you choos to ignor this, then ban me from this forum. If you choos to ignore this, then this is my last post here. If you make your forum an avenue to disrepect Nigeria to the extent of mocking poeple who lost thier lives then I want anything to do with this furom any more. I dismiss myself from Nairaland. |
Here are a few of seanT21's posts: In response to 30 Nigerians that were killed in China for being illegal, here is what seanT21 said: NO, Its not. if U go to a foreign land without any papers and U know darn well that it is wrong then U deserve anything that comes your way. How many times have Nigerians been warned to not go to China illegally. There are many stories of how illegals get treated over there but they still go anyway. Why should I have compassion on people who neglects the law of a nation Heartless?? Whatever!! Nigerians. U guys wanna defend them because they are your bros. Sorry for my loud mouth. If a "useless" country like Liberia is killing Nigerians then doesn't that tell U a whole lot about your people??https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-341195.0.html |
@ seon(The owner of Niaraland) This is a call fro justice and patriotism. Please review seanT21's posts and ban her. She does nothing but to make hate posts against our nation Nigeria. We cannot sit down and watch a nobody insult our country, laugh at us when our brothers are killed. Nigeria sent troops who fought and died to restore peace in Liberia, Liberian leaders, Like Charles Taylor sort asylum in Nigeria. Nigeria has been a very good brother nation to Liberia, and we cannot sit down watch seanT21, a Liberian use this media to intigate hatred for Nigeria and Nigerians. We often blame our government, we blame our leaders for stealing our money and being unpatriotic. This is our chance(citizens) to do our part in helping Nigeria and her image. This is out chance to show our patriotism. I believe in allowing everybody the freedom of speech, but there is a limit to everything. One cannot use his/her freedom of speech to make hate speeches. Even in America this is a crime. Please calmly go through seanT21's posts and judged for yourself. This girl should be banned. |
SeanT21:I am surprised that you wrote the word "pray." Who do you pray to, The Devil? I bet if it was you, you would not only pee on your boyfriends bed, you will kill him in the night. That's why you wont bother calling him. He will be dead. This girl called SeanT21 is a killer, please people read what she wrote about Nigerians that got killed in China because they were illegal immigrants. quote from: SeanT21 NO, Its not. if U go to a foreign land without any papers and U know darn well that it is wrong then U deserve anything that comes your way. How many times have Nigerians been warned to not go to China illegally. There are many stories of how illegals get treated over there but they still go anyway. Why should I have compassion on people who neglects the law of a nationAs if she never broken or neglected any law. It is ironic that in her profile she says that she is in exile planning a coup. Does she know that planning a coup is illegal? If she is law abiding, why is she in exile, and why is she planning a coup. It is people as heartless as this that committed all sorts of barbaric acts during the Liberian war. |
SeanT21:Yeah! Desperate measures. Like your brothers Charles Taylor and Prince Johnson who would kill anybody and drink thier blood just to rule. Stupid Liberian! What coupe are you planning. Planning to rape your family and cut off thier hands? [size=19pt]Stupid ass.[/size] |
SeanT21:See you highlighted my statements thinking that they are contradictory. I wonder your level of education. I bet you don't understand the figure of speech that I used. What runs in your veins wicked Liberian? Is blood or poison? Wickedness for brains. Why don't you go back to school? vislabraye:My brother very wise post. I already said the same thing in my previous post. Nigerians look for every oppunity to criticize themselves and their government. |
Those who think that only Nigerians are illegal immigrants. I know for sure that there are more illegal Chinese immigrants in America than illegal Nigerian immigrants. There may be more illegal Chinese immigrants all over the world than illegal Nigerian immigrants. There are also illegal Chinese immigrants in Nigeria. Some of the stay longer than their visas but Nigeria doesn't kill them. Please Check out these websites: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol9no9/pdfs/03-0353.pdf http://www.infowars.com/illegal-chinese-immigrants-slip-into-texas/# http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/LiveWire/63667 http://www.alipac.us/article3257.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-dc-chinese-smuggling,0,5331962.story Nigeria is the worst country in the world and the Nigerian Government is bad just because a few Nigerian are illegal abroad. Please give me a chance!! America has up to a million illegal immigrants, most of them are Mexicans. The people of Mexico don't call them evil just because they are illegal in America. America does not kill them. Please stop looking for the slightest opportunity to call your own people and your government evil!!!! Educate yourselves!!! There is no excuse for being unpatriotic to your country!!!!!!!! |
SeanT21:I have followed your posts, you are too stupid and wicked to be called a humanbeing. I will try and track you down and report you to CIA for making hate speeches. Wicked wicth, you mock poeple for lossing thier lives and thier loved ones. What kind of a deranched fool are you. By the way how did you get into America? I thought America dosent give greencard to monkeys. I am sure that if they investigate your documents and how you got into America, there must be a lie somewhere in your documents. With a lie in your documents, this makes you an illigal immigrant. I will track you down. How many people did you kill and eat in Liberia before you sort assylum in America? Stupid assylum seeker. |
@davidylan be careful of reading your own beleifs in the bible. Mathew7 21 is contradictory to Hebrews 9: 18. denying this only makes you apear like you are a religiouse fanatic. Mathew 7;21 made it clear that only those who do the will of God will enter his kingdom. Hebrews says that there has to be shading of blood before remition of sins. These two verses are very different and everybody know that Mathew 7:21 does not mean shading blood when it says the will of God. How can you say that by saying "doing the will of God' Mathew means shadding blood? that is an absurd conclution. Poeple still do animal sercrifice today. Cult people do it, traditional africans do it. That does not mean that it is the will od God. Cult members secrifice thier sons, so this is the will of God? Animal sacrifice did not start with the jews, all ancient people did it. justcool:I agree with just col. knowing that there was man called Jesus, or even calling him father, lord, etc does not mean that you are child of God. It does not mean that you will go to heaven. It does not mean that you a closer to Jesus than others. Only those that do the will of God will enter heaven. The verse is clear. it not all those that scream Jesus, or all those that preach Jesus, or all those that perform miracles in his name. Those are not the important thing. The important thing is to do the will of God. Which is to repent and sin no more because sin cannot enter heaven even if you know every thing written about Jesus, if you are sinful you cannot enter heaven. @justcool What is your religiouse orientation? |
Brilliant thread. Really very thought provoking. |
[quote author=,mama-gee link=topic=327281.msg4606281#msg4606281 date=1253833361]abeg, shut up there, In Nigeria don't little kids(boys) share beds with people they don't know when there's only one room, so what makes it different in America, Is it because you travelled to America and let the Americans brainwash you. Since when did sharing your bed with a sick boy who had cancer become immoral for christ's sake, It's because of dirty minded people like you that think about sex immediately you hear a boy shared a bed with a man,please get your facts right before saying things that make no sense and go and cleanse your dirty mind.[/quote]@mama-gee you are a complete fool. You said in Nigeria kids(boys) shere beds with people they dont know when there's only one room. You defeated your own argurment by say when there's only one room. You see the reason why they do it in Nigeria. But in America and in neverland where there are many guest rooms why would michael prefer to share his bed. Wheather sex or no sex, it is wrong. And I will not let my son share any grown mans bed. If thats what you do with your kids, keep it up. later you will find out that you have dameged them. I dont know the Nigeria you are talking about but in Nigeria, among educated families and where there is enough room, kids dont share beds with grown men not related to them. How many parents in Nigeria will let their kids share a bed with a 40 year old man who is not related to them? Besides, like seeklove said, Americans frown on that. Even parents do not shear beds with thier children in America. It is not about sex but culture. Why would michael prefer it especially when its not accepted in his culture. Besides he is a milioneer. He should have known that the boys parents would use it against him, yet he did it. Even if there is no sex involved, he is a wird delutional character. If you think I am wrong, why did his lawers advice him to make that speech and apologise and promised never to sleep with little boys again. Had he not apologized, he would have been convicted. |
For those arguing whether bob marley knew his father. I have heard many of his interviews where he says: I was born fatherless, I never knew my father." He didnt like the fact that his father abandoned him, I guess thats why he always accosiated himself with black poeple, He considered himself completely black. I was searching for a perticuler interveiw but I couldnt find it, This is what i found so far: In 1944 Captain Norval Sinclair Marley of the British West Indian Regiment, was appointed to the Crown lands in the parish of St. Ann. Here he came to know the 17-year-old Cedella Malcolm, who was a black African girl of a well-known family. Captain Marley and Cedella later got pregnant, and were married on June 9th in 1944. Bob Marley would later say with some bitterness: ”White guy get the black woman and breed her. I´m born in Babylon, my father, a guy who got together with my mother, he´s a English… a guy who was captain in the Army, go to war. You can´t get more Babylon than that! You know what I mean?”. He would also say on many occasions that he was born fatherless, for more than one reason. His father left his mother already when she was pregnant and hardly ever made any contact with her after that. http://home.no/jamaicas-marley/bobmarley1.html This articule contains extract from the interview that I was seraching for, where he said, "I never knew my father." |
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=291726.msg4157087#msg4157087 date=1247109143]Bob Marley is from Jamaica. Michael Jackson is an American. On what basis are they competing?. Nobody sent you people message oh. Genuine musicians knew how to respect each other instead of making all these unnecessary tupac/big daddy comparisons some of you are doing here. Shows ignorance, imo. and who says Bob Marley didnt know his father? Isnt this his father : http://www.spock.com/Norval-Marley His dad was a white plantation overseer who was rarely home, and he died when Bob was 10. However, he provided financial support for his wife and son, who, by the way, was born when he was 50.[/quote]@tpia Man you are just looking for trouble and quarrel. No body disrespect any of them. People are just stating their opinions, I believe that neither Michael or Bob will be offended by reading this thread. Fans compare entertainers just for the sake of it. It is not disrespect. Even before they give award, they compare musics or musicians, nominate them then compear and finally chose one. The musicians don't get offended. Every artist wants his work to be analyzed and compared with others of equally greatness. @ all Personally I will go with Bob because of the reasons seeklove listed above. But Michael is was a legend too. It is really heard to tell who is greater. I know for sure that Michael is more famous but maybe not more popular. Its a really hard choice to make, I guess it boils down to personal opinion. My is: Bob Marley is greater. |
tpiah:Dont be so sure that Micheal Jackson is trying to be white. People in Hollywood are trying to look most acceptable so that thier music, films andetc will reach a wider audiance. What is acceptable is not necessary white. It is being slim, looking lighter(for blacks), darker skin for whites(tanned skinned), thin nose, thick lips, curvey body especialy hips(for women). People like Angelina Jolie whos is white is adored for having thick lips, which is a black feature. There are countless whites who through sugyery injects fats in thier lips to make it thick. People dont say that they are trying to be black. There are countless whites who spend houres in the sun to get darker(tanned); there are countless tanning products in the market for whites tryning to get tanned, yet everybody knows that they are not trying to be black. How come poeple dont acuse them of trying to be black. In America statistics show that whites do more custmetics sugyry than blacks. White people with wide noses go through sugyry too. Many doctors have comfirmed that Micheal Jackson have Vertigo, a desease that changes ones skin to white. I perfectly understand this because my grandmother had this desase only on her leggs. At a time her leggs were completely white, while the rest of her body was normal. Micheal cannot afford to multicolored skin because this will look unattractive. At first he was covering the white pacthes until most of his skin became white, then he started covering the black patches making him apear white. Do you know how hard it was for him to admit that he has this deases. He was alomst on tears the first time he revealed it to the world in Oprah show. Celebrities dont like showing that they have any deasese, because they like to portray the perfect man image. Micheal Jackson is not trying to be white. He was trying to be what is most acceptable in Hollywood. He is not the only victim of the vanity of Hollywood. |
tpiah:Your ignorance is outsanding! I bet you dont live in the Usa. Genetically white kids ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() There is nothing like genetically white. The blackest person in Africa may be genetically closer to the whites person in Europe. Do you even follow the latest scientifc discoveries. Read my links from wikipedia. In Ameria the law is that a person is what ever race his father is. Since micheal is black, his kids will check on the black box when filling forms. I have seen black kids adpoted by a white father, yet they check in white boxes in forms because legally they are white. This is why they refer to people like Obama as being black. He has all the rights to be refered to as that since his father is black. tpiah:I can easily prove this. Acroding to you 'white=caucasian." Okay, geographically, north Africans are considered caucasians. There are north Africans darker than you, are these not caucasians? Since acording to caucasian is white, so these black northan africans are white. let me inform you a little. Micheal jacksons son is black, and not white. |
tpiah:@tpiah Since albino is mutation and not to be compaered with being white. Please I am still waiting on your definition of what is "being white". What is the scientific expalnantion of the exsistance of the white man. Lets read from wikipedia: Scientists discovered a skin-whitening mutation that largely explains the first appearance of white skin in humans between 20,000-50,000 years ago.[15] In Jablonski and Chaplin's (2000) study, The evolution of human skin coloration, Europeans have lighter skin (as measured by population average skin reflectance read by spectrophotometer at A685) than any other group that was measured. Southern Europeans (measures taken from Spaniards) show a skin pigmentation in parts of the body not exposed to the sun similar to that of Northern Europeans and, in some cases, even lighter.[16] While all mean values of skin reflectance of non-European populations are lower than Europeans for the groups represented in this study, there is significant overlap between populations.[17] This observation has been noted by the Supreme Court of the United States, which stated in a 1923 lawsuit over whiteness that the "swarthy brunette[s] , are darker than some of the lighter hued persons of the brown or yellow races".[18]From the above you can see that white people became white from mutation. If albinisim is mutation too, then what is the difference between a white person and an albino? i am still waiting for your reply. Please give scientific response, not the gerneral laymans opinion |
tpiah:HA !!!!!!!! Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What you wrote above has no scientific basses. There are caucasian people with black skin, and there are also Negroid people with white skin. Let me quote a little from wikipedia: The term Caucasian race (also Caucasoid or Europid) has been used to denote the general physical type of some or all of the indigenous populations of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, West Asia, Central Asia and South Asia.[1] Historically, the term has been used to describe the entire population of these regions, without regard necessarily to skin tone. In common use, the term is sometimes restricted to Europeans and other lighter-skinned populations within these areas, and may be considered equivalent to the varying definitions of white people.[2]Please research more into those terms (white, black, caucasian, and Nigroid) before using them. Please give a more scientific definition. And when you are done, answer this question: Is Micheal Jackson's son black or white? The probelem with we Nigerians is that we use terms without really knowing what it means. |
@tpiah I cant believe the type of things you write and the type of arguement that you make. Please can you define what being white is. Lets stop making blind arguement. Give me a well informed scientific definition of race. What is the scientifi difference between a white man and a black man? We have to understand what it really means to say sombody is white or black. Since albinos are as aresult of mutation. What is mutation and what is the scientific difference between an albino and a white man. Please give me scientific deifinitions since brought biology into it. |
@savanaha The link that you provided only said that "Rowie is has been noted saying, " No direct quote of the woman is posted. I have seen many of her interviews where she swore that the child is micheals biological child. One of them wasnt even artificail insemeanation but natural conception. The whole thing is as simple as this: The childs mother is white, Micheal is African American of mixed descent. How come you expect the child to look completely black ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ?The poor child only has some black in him!!!!!!! People please leave wacko and his family alone. This is what you get when jeolousy meets with wishful thinking. Are you guys God. Please can sombody explian to me how completely black parents give birth to albinos who are whiter than white. Peharps all the albinos in Africa have white fathers. HMMMMMMM |
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