seeklove:

Justcool why doyou waste your time providing link for them. Any truly educated person knows that reincarnation was one of the issues discussed in the council of nicea.

Even a chatholic prist has told me that in the past. Preexsistance and reincarnation were one of the major things discused in the council of nicea.

Yes reincarnation was one of the issues discussed at the council of Nicea but it was not the major issue. It was quickly voted out. The majore issues were Trinity, and the nature of Christ.

Go to a historian and find out.

please read from true christians

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2000/20000601.htm

Hades in bibiical context simply means death.

Sheol

The Hebrew word pronounced she-ole meant the grave (see Sheol) e.g Psalm 16:10 from various translations:

King James Version:
"For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."

Revised Standard Version:
"For Thou dost not give me up to Sheol, or let Thy Godly One see the pit."

New International Version:
"because You will not abandon me to the grave, nor will You let your Holy One see decay"

Hades

The Greek word pronounced haw-dace, was the equivalent of the Hebrew word sheol - it too meant the grave.

"For thou wilt not abandon my soul to Hades, nor let thy Holy One see corruption." (Acts 2:27 RSV)

"he foresaw and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that He was not abandoned to Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption." (Acts 2:31 RSV)

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2000/20000601.htm

1. Paradise, before Christ's resurrection, was part of Hades (the place of the Unseen). After Christ's resurrection, those who used to be in Paradise are now in Heaven, so can we then say that Paradise was left behind in "Hades"? Of course not, the inhabitants were now in Heaven, which gives for my statement that paradise "moved" to heaven, I was talking about the "contents" of Paradise.

2. The tree of life spoken about in the Bible is in the Paradise of God. Understanding that this "paradise", being an "Unseen" was also in Hades, then we see that the tree of life is in that "Unseen" place called Hades. I never said it was in Hell, but this is a logical proceeding from point 1 above, which Deep Sight deliberately misconstrued.

3. I said the "paradise project" was moved from HADES to HEAVEN meaning that the ones who were in Hades' Paradise now had the authority to be called God's Sons and to be in His presence, they could now enter into Heaven after Christ.

Christ himself said that nobody had gone into the Father's Presence except HIMSELF who also came from there. All the others were in holding, in Sheol, in Hades, the place of the Unseen, a temporary place, waiting for resurrection while the wicked ones languished in pain (c.f. Lazarus and Dives).

HEAVEN is God's presence, and it is wherever he is. God will not dwell with unclean beings, so not until Christ's sins had cleansed the filth, nobody was able to enter into God's presence : heaven. They were in a temporary place. Called Sheol. Called Hades. NOT HELL!

e.g. an American citizen survived Haiti's earthquake but was stranded, he couldn't go home and had to stay at the American embassy while his transport was being worked out. In this case, the "embassy" would be Paradise, which is a part of the "Unseen World" Hades or Sheol. I wonder how difficult that can be, Deep Sight? I think you're way too intelligent for all this cra'p dribble that you're doing here.

4. What is this? You simply repeated claim #2 and twisted it to be portrayed as a fresh claim?    Isn't it known that the Garden of Eden houses the tree of life, and that the Garden of Eden is also an Unseen in the Sheol / Hades world, in the Paradise section? You seem to like running round in circles.   

I still cant get over the above. This is wow!!!!!!. Everyline is completely unscriptuaral. This is what religioues famaticism can cause. The pastor who invented these tails should be given an award!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What about the parable of the rich man and the poor man. The poor man died and went to the bossom of abraham while the rich man suffered in hell.

By your theory I guess Abraham was in hell, hades, gehana, or whatever you chose to call it.

[i]"The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried; and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus in his bosom. And he called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy upon me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in anguish in this flame.'"[/i]Luke 16:19-31


One went to bossom of Abraham and the other went to hades. Not the same place!!!!!
The one in hades lifted up his eyes and saw the one in Abrahams bossom far off.

'far off' means far away. 'lifted' means to raise.therefore Abrahams bosom is far off and above Hades just like haven is far off and above the earth. There are not the same place!!

the poor man was carried off by angels!! Since when do angels carry people to hades??

If they are the same, how come one is suffering and the other is enjoying.


Your pastor deserves an award.

I must tell readers that what you wrote is your opinion or your pastors opinion and not what every Chritian beleives, neither is it bibilical.

Catholic definition of hell is absence of God. There can be no paradise in hell.

Mavenb0x:


Thirdly, you saidIf you will not show me where I said that Hell is the Kingdom of Satan, I think you need to sue UCLA, and your masters (and aftertwards your baccalaureate) degree should be revoked, and you should go back to Nigeria and make an attempt at JAMB.

Here you said it.

Mavenb0x:

In Revelation 1:18, our Lord has the keys or control of The Unseen and of death. That is, He is master of the unseen world which in the Christian system includes Hades, Tartarus, and the kingdom of Satan in the atmosphere of this earth.

case closed. Seeklove gets to keep his degree.

Please what do you mean by the kingdom of Satan, if not hell.

Seun:

The evidence is not very compelling.

If my evidence is not compelling, look through the rest of her posts and you will see. I only provided a little.

If you choos to ignor this, then ban me from this forum. If you choos to ignore this, then this is my last post here. If you make your forum an avenue to disrepect Nigeria to the extent of mocking poeple who lost thier lives then I want anything to do with this furom any more.

I dismiss myself from Nairaland.

Here are a few of seanT21's posts:

In response to 30 Nigerians that were killed in China for being illegal, here is what seanT21 said:

NO, Its not. if U go to a foreign land without any papers and U know darn well that it is wrong then U deserve anything that comes your way. How many times have Nigerians been warned to not go to China illegally. There are many stories of how illegals get treated over there but they still go anyway. Why should I have compassion on people who neglects the law of a nation

Heartless?? Whatever!!

If U break the law that U have been warned several times about then U deserve any punishment that comes your way.Stop screaming because they are your people. Get real!!

ohh, they were smuggling drugs. How many times do they need to be warned??

Nigerians. U guys wanna defend them because they are your bros. Sorry for my loud mouth.

If a "useless" country like Liberia is killing Nigerians then doesn't that tell U a whole lot about your people??
Your people are getting killed or jailed everywhere because they like going against the law. With Nigerians in foreign nations its either they are involved in illegal immigration, fraud or drugs. Chinese are very strict with their laws but these Nigerians still went ahead anyway to break it. Plus, if the Nigerian government was a serious one, where in the world were they before those 30 Nigerians were killed. Your own government do not give a damn about U but U expect foreign nations to?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-341195.0.html

@ seon(The owner of Niaraland)
This is a call fro justice and patriotism. Please review seanT21's posts and ban her. She does nothing but to make hate posts against our nation Nigeria.

We cannot sit down and watch a nobody insult our country, laugh at us when our brothers are killed. Nigeria sent troops who fought and died to restore peace in Liberia, Liberian leaders, Like Charles Taylor sort asylum in Nigeria. Nigeria has been a very good brother nation to Liberia, and we cannot sit down watch seanT21, a Liberian use this media to intigate hatred for Nigeria and Nigerians.

We often blame our government, we blame our leaders for stealing our money and being unpatriotic. This is our chance(citizens) to do our part in helping Nigeria and her image. This is out chance to show our patriotism.

I believe in allowing everybody the freedom of speech, but there is a limit to everything. One cannot use his/her freedom of speech to make hate speeches. Even in America this is a crime.

Please calmly go through seanT21's posts and judged for yourself. This girl should be banned.

SeanT21:

If I was U I wont even bother calling him. I would hide my face from him forever and pray he keeps that secret till his grave.

I am surprised that you wrote the word "pray." Who do you pray to, The Devil? I bet if it was you, you would not only pee on your boyfriends bed, you will kill him in the night. That's why you wont bother calling him. He will be dead.

This girl called SeanT21 is a killer, please people read what she wrote about Nigerians that got killed in China because they were illegal immigrants.

quote from: SeanT21

NO, Its not. if U go to a foreign land without any papers and U know darn well that it is wrong then U deserve anything that comes your way. How many times have Nigerians been warned to not go to China illegally. There are many stories of how illegals get treated over there but they still go anyway. Why should I have compassion on people who neglects the law of a nation

As if she never broken or neglected any law. It is ironic that in her profile she says that she is in exile planning a coup. Does she know that planning a coup is illegal? If she is law abiding, why is she in exile, and why is she planning a coup.

It is people as heartless as this that committed all sorts of barbaric acts during the Liberian war.

SeanT21:

LMAO!!!

Desperate times calls for desperate measures.

Yeah! Desperate measures. Like your brothers Charles Taylor and Prince Johnson who would kill anybody and drink thier blood just to rule.

Stupid Liberian! What coupe are you planning. Planning to rape your family and cut off thier hands?

[size=19pt]Stupid ass.[/size]

SeanT21:

See you highlighted my statements thinking that they are contradictory. I wonder your level of education. I bet you don't understand the figure of speech that I used. What runs in your veins wicked Liberian? Is blood or poison? Wickedness for brains. Why don't you go back to school?

vislabraye:

It's very unfortunate. Nigeria seems to me as the most hated nation on earth. it's very embarassing to hear how Nigerians get killed in large numbers abroad. China is not the only country that kills Nigerians UNJUSTLY, even a useless country like Liberia kills Nigerians and get away with it. This is something our minister of information should look into. Part of the problem is with the way Nigerians treat themselves.
This act of the Chinese should be condemned. I read some posts in this forum trying to justify the barbaric acts of the Chinese. How many foreigners have nigerians killed?

My brother very wise post. I already said the same thing in my previous post. Nigerians look for every oppunity to criticize themselves and their government.

Those who think that only Nigerians are illegal immigrants. I know for sure that there are more illegal Chinese immigrants in America than illegal Nigerian immigrants. There may be more illegal Chinese immigrants all over the world than illegal Nigerian immigrants. There are also illegal Chinese immigrants in Nigeria. Some of the stay longer than their visas but Nigeria doesn't kill them.

Please Check out these websites:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol9no9/pdfs/03-0353.pdf

http://www.infowars.com/illegal-chinese-immigrants-slip-into-texas/#

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/LiveWire/63667

http://www.alipac.us/article3257.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-dc-chinese-smuggling,0,5331962.story

Nigeria is the worst country in the world and the Nigerian Government is bad just because a few Nigerian are illegal abroad. Please give me a chance!! America has up to a million illegal immigrants, most of them are Mexicans. The people of Mexico don't call them evil just because they are illegal in America. America does not kill them.

Please stop looking for the slightest opportunity to call your own people and your government evil!!!! Educate yourselves!!! There is no excuse for being unpatriotic to your country!!!!!!!!

SeanT21:

~~LMAO~~My point still stands though. I am not forcing U to accept it.

"In as much as I try not to be prejudiced, a friend of mine always tell me that Charles Taylor is not far from the average Liberian. They are known for inhuman wickedness. Your character has shown me that my friend may be very correct."

That is 100 correct. Most Liberians are like Charles Taylor including myself. Stay away from us.

I have followed your posts, you are too stupid and wicked to be called a humanbeing. I will try and track you down and report you to CIA for making hate speeches.

Wicked wicth, you mock poeple for lossing thier lives and thier loved ones. What kind of a deranched fool are you.

By the way how did you get into America? I thought America dosent give greencard to monkeys. I am sure that if they investigate your documents and how you got into America, there must be a lie somewhere in your documents. With a lie in your documents, this makes you an illigal immigrant. I will track you down. How many people did you kill and eat in Liberia before you sort assylum in America? Stupid assylum seeker.

@davidylan
be careful of reading your own beleifs in the bible. Mathew7 21 is contradictory to Hebrews 9: 18. denying this only makes you apear like you are a religiouse fanatic.

Mathew 7;21 made it clear that only those who do the will of God will enter his kingdom. Hebrews says that there has to be shading of blood before remition of sins. These two verses are very different and everybody know that Mathew 7:21 does not mean shading blood when it says the will of God. How can you say that by saying "doing the will of God'  Mathew means shadding blood? that is an absurd conclution.

Poeple still do animal sercrifice today. Cult people do it, traditional africans do it. That does not mean that it is the will od God. Cult members secrifice thier sons, so this is the will of God? Animal sacrifice did not start with the jews, all ancient people did it.

justcool:

@davidylan
Thanks so much for your reply but I completely disagree with you.
In the scripture you quoted:
"This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent." I do not see where it says that one must believe in the murder of Jesus to be saved. To believe in Jesus entails to live according to His teachings, and Jesus taught nothing but the will of God. So to believe in Jesus is to live His teaching, thus to do the will of God.
Anybody who does the will of God will attain salvation, and will in the end come to the recognition of Jesus. It doesn't matter wheather that person while on earth, knows that about Jesus. Thus somebody can read the bible or history and know about Jesus, but as long as that person does not live in the will of God, or as long as that person does not have genuine love in his hearth, that person has not come to the recognition of Jesus.
Genuine love only comes from Jesus; one who posses genuine love is already on his way to the recognition of Jesus, such a person is on his way to heaven, whether he consciously know about Jesus while he was on earth or not.
Thanks

I agree with just col. knowing that there was man called Jesus, or even calling him father, lord, etc does not mean that you are child of God. It does not mean that you will go to heaven. It does not mean that you a closer to Jesus than others. Only those that do the will of God will enter heaven.

The verse is clear. it not all those that scream Jesus, or all those that preach Jesus, or all those that perform miracles in his name. Those are not the important thing. The important thing is to do the will of God. Which is to repent and sin no more because sin cannot enter heaven even if you know every thing written about Jesus, if you are sinful you cannot enter heaven.

@justcool
What is your religiouse orientation?

Brilliant thread. Really very thought provoking.

,mama-gee:

abeg, shut up there, In Nigeria don't little kids(boys) share beds with people they don't know when there's only one room, so what makes it different in America, Is it because you travelled to America and let the Americans brainwash you. Since when did sharing your bed with a sick boy who had cancer become immoral for christ's sake, It's because of dirty minded people like you that think about sex immediately you hear a boy shared a bed with a man,please get your facts right before saying things that make no sense and go and cleanse your dirty mind.

@mama-gee
you are a complete fool. You said in Nigeria kids(boys) shere beds with people they dont know when there's only one room. You defeated your own argurment by say when there's only one room. You see the reason why they do it in Nigeria. But in America and in neverland where there are many guest rooms why would michael prefer to share his bed. Wheather sex or no sex, it is wrong. And I will not let my son share any grown mans bed. If thats what you do with your kids, keep it up. later you will find out that you have dameged them.

I dont know the Nigeria you are talking about but in Nigeria, among educated families and where there is enough room, kids dont share beds with grown men not related to them. How many parents in Nigeria will let their kids share a bed with a 40 year old man who is not related to them?

Besides, like seeklove said, Americans frown on that. Even parents do not shear beds with thier children in America. It is not about sex but culture. Why would michael prefer it especially when its not accepted in his culture.

Besides he is a milioneer. He should have known that the boys parents would use it against him, yet he did it. Even if there is no sex involved, he is a wird delutional character. If you think I am wrong, why did his lawers advice him to make that speech and apologise and promised never to sleep with little boys again. Had he not apologized, he would have been convicted.

For those arguing whether bob marley knew his father. I have heard many of his interviews where he says: I was born fatherless, I never knew my father." He didnt like the fact that his father abandoned him, I guess thats why he always accosiated himself with black poeple, He considered himself completely black.

I was searching for a perticuler interveiw but I couldnt find it, This is what i found so far:

In 1944 Captain Norval Sinclair Marley of the British West Indian Regiment, was appointed to the Crown lands in the parish of St. Ann. Here he came to know the 17-year-old Cedella Malcolm, who was a black African girl of a well-known family. Captain Marley and Cedella later got pregnant, and were married on June 9th in 1944. Bob Marley would later say with some bitterness: ”White guy get the black woman and breed her. I´m born in Babylon, my father, a guy who got together with my mother, he´s a English… a guy who was captain in the Army, go to war. You can´t get more Babylon than that! You know what I mean?”. He would also say on many occasions that he was born fatherless, for more than one reason. His father left his mother already when she was pregnant and hardly ever made any contact with her after that.
http://home.no/jamaicas-marley/bobmarley1.html

This articule contains extract from the interview that I was seraching for, where he said, "I never knew my father."

tpia.:

Bob Marley is from Jamaica. Michael Jackson is an American. On what basis are they competing?.

Nobody sent you people message oh.


Genuine musicians knew how to respect each other instead of making all these unnecessary tupac/big daddy comparisons some of you are doing here. Shows ignorance, imo.

and who says Bob Marley didnt know his father? Isnt this his father :

http://www.spock.com/Norval-Marley

His dad was a white plantation overseer who was rarely home, and he died when Bob was 10. However, he provided financial support for his wife and son, who, by the way, was born when he was 50.

@tpia
Man you are just looking for trouble and quarrel. No body disrespect any of them. People are just stating their opinions, I believe that neither Michael or Bob will be offended by reading this thread. Fans compare entertainers just for the sake of it. It is not disrespect. Even before they give award, they compare musics or musicians, nominate them then compear and finally chose one. The musicians don't get offended. Every artist wants his work to be analyzed and compared with others of equally greatness.


@ all
Personally I will go with Bob because of the reasons seeklove listed above. But Michael is was a legend too.
It is really heard to tell who is greater. I know for sure that Michael is more famous but maybe not more popular.

Its a really hard choice to make, I guess it boils down to personal opinion. My is: Bob Marley is greater.

tpiah:

look, we're arguing in circles here.

My observation was Michael jackson is trying to have white kids, hence he'd probably check the caucasian box for govt applications on their behalf. He didnt go to all that trouble just to have regular black children. Neither is he sporting long straight hair and a long thin nose because he wants to be black. There's a reason for his and his children's appearance which you're ignoring.

Which black kids did you see checking white on a form because their adopted dad is white? If that's true, then its because they might not realize they're black. Yes, it does happen. There were a few blacks like that in the UK who didnt know they were black even though they had dark skin. No doubt America also has people like that too.

besides , your argument is self defeating. If dark skinned kids can check the Caucasian box and call themselves white, then what prevents Michael Jackson's kids from doing the same? As long as no one is checking or correcting them.

And most times, there's another option where you dont even have to check anything- the information isnt mandatory. On census forms, you can say you're mixed- neither black nor white.


If the owner of the sperm used to produce Michael's son ( too bad about the crudeness), was at least 70% white, then the boy is genetically white.

As it is , I'm hoping those kids havent been subjected to plastic surgery and whatnot to rid them of whatever blackness might be showing. I'm hearing the boy's mother dyed the baby's hair blonde to make him look even whiter as a toddler.

Dont be so sure that Micheal Jackson is trying to be white. People in Hollywood are trying to look most acceptable so that thier music, films andetc will reach a wider audiance.

What is acceptable is not necessary white. It is being slim, looking lighter(for blacks), darker skin for whites(tanned skinned), thin nose, thick lips, curvey body especialy hips(for women).

People like Angelina Jolie whos is white is adored for having thick lips, which is a black feature. There are countless whites who through sugyery injects fats in thier lips to make it thick. People dont say that they are trying to be black. There are countless whites who spend houres in the sun to get darker(tanned); there are countless tanning products in the market for whites tryning to get tanned, yet everybody knows that they are not trying to be black.

How come poeple dont acuse them of trying to be black.

In America statistics show that whites do more custmetics sugyry than blacks. White people with wide noses go through sugyry too.



Many doctors have comfirmed that Micheal Jackson have Vertigo, a desease that changes ones skin to white. I perfectly understand this because my grandmother had this desase only on her leggs. At a time her leggs were completely white, while the rest of her body was normal.

Micheal cannot afford to multicolored skin because this will look unattractive. At first he was covering the white pacthes until most of his skin became white, then he started covering the black patches making him apear white. Do you know how hard it was for him to admit that he has this deases. He was alomst on tears the first time he revealed it to the world in Oprah show. Celebrities dont like showing that they have any deasese, because they like to portray the perfect man image.

Micheal Jackson is not trying to be white. He was trying to be what is most acceptable in Hollywood. He is not the only victim of the vanity of Hollywood.

tpiah:

sorry to burst your bubble, but race is much more than just skin color. It isnt only a light/dark issue- thats just the most visible feature that people jump on.

So, sorry but try again to prove some black negro Africans are white.




Michael Jackson's kids' race is what people are debating here. So far, there's no consensus yet but I'm sure he'll check the white/caucasian box when signing them up for any govt required activity. However, his doing that isnt because he, a negro black man, produced genetically white kids, though I'm sure that's what you want to believe.

And i doubt you're comprehending anything people are saying on this thread that doesnt agree with what you want to hear?

Your ignorance is outsanding! I bet you dont live in the Usa. Genetically white kids
There is nothing like genetically white. The blackest person in Africa may be genetically closer to the whites person in Europe. Do you even follow the latest scientifc discoveries. Read my links from wikipedia.

In Ameria the law is that a person is what ever race his father is. Since micheal is black, his kids will check on the black box when filling forms. I have seen black kids adpoted by a white father, yet they check in white boxes in forms because legally they are white. This is why they refer to people like Obama as being black. He has all the rights to be refered to as that since his father is black.

tpiah:

So, sorry but try again to prove some black negro Africans are white.

I can easily prove this. Acroding to you 'white=caucasian."
Okay, geographically, north Africans are considered caucasians. There are north Africans darker than you, are these not caucasians? Since acording to caucasian is white, so these black northan africans are white.


let me inform you a little. Micheal jacksons son is black, and not white.

tpiah:

I dont know why people keep comparing albino Africans to white Caucasians?

they arent the same.

Its a mutation, just like Down's syndrome, where the baby has slanted eyes and negroid features (ie broader and rounder face) regardless of its parent's racial group.

@tpiah

Since albino is mutation and not to be compaered with being white. Please I am still waiting on your definition of what is "being white". What is the scientific expalnantion of the exsistance of the white man.

Lets read from wikipedia:

Scientists discovered a skin-whitening mutation that largely explains the first appearance of white skin in humans between 20,000-50,000 years ago.[15] In Jablonski and Chaplin's (2000) study, The evolution of human skin coloration, Europeans have lighter skin (as measured by population average skin reflectance read by spectrophotometer at A685) than any other group that was measured. Southern Europeans (measures taken from Spaniards) show a skin pigmentation in parts of the body not exposed to the sun similar to that of Northern Europeans and, in some cases, even lighter.[16] While all mean values of skin reflectance of non-European populations are lower than Europeans for the groups represented in this study, there is significant overlap between populations.[17] This observation has been noted by the Supreme Court of the United States, which stated in a 1923 lawsuit over whiteness that the "swarthy brunette[s] ,  are darker than some of the lighter hued persons of the brown or yellow races".[18]

The epidermis of light skinned people is not actually white. The underlying layers of collagen and adipose tissue are white in people of all races. In lightly pigmented people, the epidermis is an almost transparent layer of film. Consequently the epidermis allows the underlying white tissues to become visible.[19] Blood vessels interlaced between the adipose tissue produce the pale pink color associated with light skin. Pigments known as carotenes found in the fat produce a more yellow effect. In darker skinned people the epidermis is filled with melanosomes that obscure the underlying layers.[20][21][22]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people

From the above you can see that white people became white from mutation. If albinisim is mutation too, then what is the difference between a white person and an albino?

i am still waiting for your reply. Please give scientific response, not the gerneral laymans opinion

tpiah:

no need to derail the thread, but


White = Caucasian

Black= Negroid.

HA !!!!!!!! Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What you wrote above has no scientific basses. There are caucasian people with black skin, and there are also Negroid people with white skin.

Let me quote a little from wikipedia:

The term Caucasian race (also Caucasoid or Europid) has been used to denote the general physical type of some or all of the indigenous populations of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, West Asia, Central Asia and South Asia.[1] Historically, the term has been used to describe the entire population of these regions, without regard necessarily to skin tone. In common use, the term is sometimes restricted to Europeans and other lighter-skinned populations within these areas, and may be considered equivalent to the varying definitions of white people.[2]

The concept of a Caucasian race was developed around 1800. Today some scholars reject the concept because human genome studies have not demonstrated a precise genetic definition of Caucasian.[3][4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

Please research more into those terms (white, black, caucasian, and Nigroid) before using them.
Please give a more scientific definition. And when you are done, answer this question:

Is Micheal Jackson's son black or white?

The probelem with we Nigerians is that we use terms without really knowing what it means.

@tpiah
I cant believe the type of things you write and the type of arguement that you make.

Please can you define what being white is. Lets stop making blind arguement. Give me a well informed scientific definition of race.

What is the scientifi difference between a white man and a black man?

We have to understand what it really means to say sombody is white or black. Since albinos are as aresult of mutation. What is mutation and what is the scientific difference between an albino and a white man.

Please give me scientific deifinitions since brought biology into it.

@savanaha

The link that you provided only said that "Rowie is has been noted saying, " No direct quote of the woman is posted. I have seen many of her interviews where she swore that the child is micheals biological child. One of them wasnt even artificail insemeanation but natural conception.

The whole thing is as simple as this: The childs mother is white, Micheal is African American of mixed descent. How come you expect the child to look completely black?
The poor child only has some black in him!!!!!!!

People please leave wacko and his family alone. This is what you get when jeolousy meets with wishful thinking.

Are you guys God. Please can sombody explian to me how completely black parents give birth to albinos who are whiter than white. Peharps all the albinos in Africa have white fathers. HMMMMMMM