₦airaland Forum

nairalanda1:
Oga, I know you people will disagree with me, and say I am defending corrupt leaders, (for the record, I believe corruption is a serious issue)...but the money your states get from Abuja is really scanty. Because we are not even earning enough money.

80% OF Our revenue is from oil. The number of barrels per day we produce is enough for a country of less than 10 million people. Not the 260 million people we have. That is why people have been shouting at governments past and present to diversify the eocnomy...but this government no dey hear.

Averagely, what some states get , if a state in the USA got that, they would declare bankruptcy tomorrow. Yet, we want what the USA wants....on top of income that compared to USA is scanty.

(Yes, that is why corruption in NIgeria is evil...the thieves we have running us now are stealing from a treasury that is scanty. ).

Our uptake from tax is less than 10% Tax income is 10% of our gdp. We collect tax from 30% of the population eligible to pay taxes. And oil income cannot satisfy our large populaiton, no matter how much we shout about corruption. If we were not corrupt...it would still be problematic.

SO, either your government raises income from non oil soruces, diversifies our economy and takes us on the road to industrialization in addition to actually fighting corruption, and removing subsides....or we can forget about decent facilites. Things cost money, as much as it annoys me.

nothing is wrong with the allocation money and it is not too small to develop the infrastructure of a state...

Ogun has more IGR than Abia but Abia state is building more infrastructure than Ogun state and that is because the Abia state governor has the will to improve and build the infrastructure of the state while Ogun state does not have the will to build the infrastructure of Ogun state.....

nairalanda1:
Are you guys ready to stop fighting and start facing the reality that the reason why you don't have decent facilites is because you are not ready to pay the kind of tax, and do the work needed to hold your government accountable....so that they can make things better.

LIke that nice stuff in Holland...you know, people pay heavy taxes for that beauty, plus run a diversifed economy. You guys vote PDP and APC that do the same thing over and over again, and the economy keeps getting worse....but no, na to get your son in power, is all ye both want.

Instead, na to vote tinubu into power and defend am, or vote obi into power and defend am, no hold am accountable self.

it is not about tax..

it is about the will to develop the infrastructure of the state..

004gist:
No too vex we are discussing how they make money in their country...
I have no idea on external earnings.

Maybe if u know u let me know. I only share my observations here as every black here even those in my church are either working in this places I mentioned that doesn't mean that there is no Nigeria in other sectors but if they exist they might be very tiny tiny

BigDawsNet is asking how they make money...

whether it is internal or external earnings does not matter.....

A thread on front page says Australia makes over $36billion annually from immigrant students alone and this does not include rejected applications...

and I did not include how much B:ritain makes from immigrant students...

BigDawsNet:
If they don’t produce much
And I guess they don’t really have much naturally resources

So how do they make money? And continue to be a first world country?

BigDawsNet:
Thanks for the response

Don't let 004gist deceive you...

They make money through owning businesses or having shares in some businesses..

And they also make money from exploiting other countries like through iELTS, visa rejections, S:hell petroleum company, B:ritish airways e.t.c

Some weeks ago, T:otal oil company signed a deal with Congo where Congo only gets 15% from the deal...

They also have a strong currency..

elyte89:
But from what I heard ,d amount used for hosting a match for super eagles alone(including logistics flight tickets,match bonus,allowance and all) gulps an approximately $250k according to the journalist on x spaces, we never talk about yearly salaries and oda expenses incurred by oda national teams…so maybe nff might be bro truly


Even on d space I heard we re still yet to pay rohr and peseiro money finish sef

You heard not that you read the accounting statement of the NFF..

Anyone can inflate figures publicly to mislead the citizens so that they can chop money..

No African country charges in dollars and the S.E plays majority of their matches in Africa and against African countries.

So mentioning $250k in Africa is fraudulent..

mostob:
The bolded already put an end to the discussion. This is about Osimhen, and not Finidi.

It's about Finidi not Osimhen.. that's the point a lot of you are missing.

If Finidi had won the 2 matches or drawn 1 match and win the other match then Finidi will not make the comment of begging players to play for S.E and members of NFF will not bring up questions about the players attitude in the matches.

Finidi failure to win the matches and the comments Finidi made to defend his own mediocrity and failures triggered the Osimhen response..

Napoleon55:
Define the phrase "morally sound"
then we can take it from there.

u just lack knowledge.
perhaps u can learn few things by searching out the meaning of the phrase morally sound,and refrain insulting someone

You're the one that should define the phrase you are using that you don't understand...

You lack knowledge.
Youu can learn few things by searching out the meaning of the phrase morally sound..

Again, you have a mental problem.

Napoleon55:
To give respect to elders is not our culture only,
it's doing what is right,it's universal.

Let's not mind that guy that want us to think that he is that which he is not.
Even the Europeans and Americans he want us to think he is like,which he will never be anyway,are more morally sound than us.

The Osimhen he is trying to defend knows what he did,
and knows he is wrong ..

Osimhen has lived outside for quite some time yet when he saw Drogba he almost prostrated to greet him,he didn't forget to show Drogba that kind of respect.
He deliberately called Finidi by his name to fully disrespect him.
He wouldn't call his Napoli coach by his name,and we don't see other players calling their coaches by name in Europe

Eur:opeans that invaded Asia, America and Africa and killed a lot of the indigenes are the ones you're calling morally sound..

You have a mental problem.

Skoonheid:
Standardisation. Beast system loading.....

Nigerians , you'all gon weep and gnash your teeth

dickt1:
ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT LOADING. If you know you know

You guys are the only ones intelligent enough to know what's about to happen..

Kalakulu:
Sharrap there, it's no secret that the other inferior yorugba groups are envious of the Ijebu people cause they don't like to be associated with yorubaas. Why did Akintola (an Ogbomoso man) connive with the North to arrest and charge Awolowo for treason? why did the political differences between the Ijebu and Ogbomoso people pitch the western region into a serious crisis that triggered the infamous "we tie" riots...you can deceive yourselves with your fake unity rubbish but history can't be hidden! Stop antagonizing the Ijebu people! it's not their fault they that are more sophisticated than the other yorubaas.

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yinkeys:
If only Nigeria has a world class box to box midfielder like Ngolo Kante

Onyeka, Yusuf, Bonke, Nwakali.

elyte89:
Dt money fit don finish o

Yday at Colin udoh space…d amount used to organize a super eagles match(logistics and all) is nearly 250-300million naira …i shock when I hear d amount .

That's obviously a fraudulent figure..

Even at that S.E got $4m from AFCON for been 2nd.

S.F got $1.87m for reaching the knockout stages of the women world cup..

NFF can never finish that amount of money in 3 years unless there is misappropriation of funds.

elyte89:
What’s even d assurance dt nff can now have d deep purse 👜 to pay for a technical adviser ..make e no b say na dem Sia Sia ,Amunike we go turn to

S.E got 2nd place prize money from AFCON...

S.F also reached the knockout stages of the Womens World Cup some months before AFCON and NFF also got money from that..

NFF has money... they just want to chop it...

Subzerooo:
Exactly the NFF is the source of all these problems, I was just waiting for Osimhen or Finidi or somebody to name names fgs, but right now we will be passing blames from Osimhen to Finidi while the real culprits go scot free

NFF is partly to blame.. however Finidi takes the most blame because he did not win any of the WCQ matches..

is it the NFF that said Amokachi, Ndubuisi Egbo, Amunike, Eguavoen e.t.c. should not assist or help Finidi to ensure WC qualifications...

when I watch EPL or UCL the assistants and the coaches are always talking to each other.. however, when it comes to the S.E the coach is always a lonely figure... its only Super Falcons coach Randy Waldrum that have seen talking to his assistants..

robosky02:
No one hates osimhen but he needs to grow up

You can clear the air but not ranting any how. Even talking down the team super eagles.
See no player can be bigger than the national team.

The last time it was Victor Ikpeba and now Finidi George

All the ex stars Igbalo and Annichebe has shut him down

Omo he needs to express himself without insulting

Osimhen did not talk down on the S.E...

If Finidi had won the 2 WCQ matches then the rant would not have happened...

that is how most Nigerians express themselves... when 2 Nigerians are shouting at each other they are always insulting...

Napoleon55:
The issue here is not about NFF and coaches inviting injured players,
it's Osimhen's unprofessionalim in handling his displeasure towards those who questioned his dedication through unguarded emotional outburst,
don't get wrong.

This is where you and lovewins get it wrong..

From what Osimhen was saying he was talking about injuries and the NFF.

Nothing unprofessional in the way he handled it.

The issue is 100% about the NFF and coaches inviting injured players..

Osimhen said which m*****f**** came to see him when he was injured...

You and lovewins are the ones getting it wrong and trying your best to protect NFF..

Napoleon55:
Osimhen is 100% right about what?
he was right in cursing Finidi and everybody who complained about him?
swearing that "all of una no go die better"
by saying that,he insulted others join,
just because it was alleged that Finidi blamed him?

Nobody is happy in hearing that anybody questioned his commitment,he probably the most committed player,especially on the field of play.
But his outburst and his choice of words is wrong oga.
He might be richer but Finidi is not his mate and he even yet to attain his accomplishments.

He better come out and apologize without delay.
M no dey beg anybody to play,is because he has succeeded.
It was Nigeria that provided him the platform to succeed and a Nigerian coach ,he should remember that.

We all love him,he should not let his emotions destroy that

Osimhen is right about the NFF and the coaches inviting players that are nursing injuries...

If you have ever suffered a joint injury or muscle injury you will know Osimhen is speaking from a view of emotional and physical pain who has played through injuries and it has affected his Napoli performance and appearances.. and this adds to the trauma he has been bottling up..

it is good for his emotional and psychological health because it seems the NFF is not concerned about psychological, emotional and physical well being of the players...

when they play for their clubs their clubs ensure they are not injured and are fit and we all see how well they play for their clubs while when they play for the S.E they are not fit and are nursing injuries and put out lackluster performances and we blame the players...

I don't even think the S.E or Super Falcons have fitness coaches and psychologists on the team.

lovewins:
Again, stop strawmaning. Finidi's competence as a coach has little bearing to do with the matter at hand. What protocols are you even refering to? I said there are legitimate channels where Victor could have aired his grievances including reaching out to Finidi himself.

Ok dates, NFF can't on their own pick dates, FIFA sets a window and teams are expected to choose a date within that window. It's why you'll notice every African country played within the time alloted and no one is playing a qualifiers today. At best you'll have a day difference but still within the window. Victor obviously couldn't have recovered early enough to make any of those games.

Again, don't conflate issues, Victor was wrong simple.

Victor is complaining about the NFF and the coaches inviting players that are nursing injuries.. Enyeama once said people won't know the injuries he played through for the S.E.

Osimhen is 100% right..

Let the NFF address the overage players playing in the NPFL with fake ages and build a league with high standards so that true talents are produced by the NPFL..

lovewins:
Oga, what you are doing is what they call "strawman". You aren't a sticking to the conversation but arguing a point that is not made.

No one has said Osimhen should be banned, we are just pointing out that he was wrong. You can't see how illogical your argument is. Can't you see how the first best thing was for Victor himself to reach out to Finidi to clarify what he heard. He obviously has his contact like he affirmed in the live. Couldn't your take have been that Victor teach out to Finidi? Couldn't Victor have also reached out to the media department of the NFF and asked for clarification? He could easily have asked that they release a statement debunking the allegation if that would help. Like I said, there was a thousand other ways this could have been resolved, but he chose to act like a child.

I saw th headline a few days ago and didn't even bother to read it. The first thing that came to my mind was that it was clickbait. The second which every Nigerian agrees with is that no one can't doubt Victor's commitment to the team. Even his haters no that. It was a non story from the very beginning. His reacting the way he did however gave life to it.

Do you think NFF have the intelligence to create such protocols?

If they had the intelligence then Finidi would have never been the coach because they would have sacked him for trying to get opposition players jersey..

Osimhen is venting because some people in the NFF would have pressured him to play with the injury.. NFF itself did not pick the right dates for the qualifiers and consider players recovery between games..

Osimhen was right in his reaction especially if it makes the sports ministry and NFF to create protocols to favor the S.E, flying eagles and U17 especially during the CAF qualifiers.

Amedino99:
Shame on osimhen if this is true. Really disappointed in him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenationonlineng.net/finidi-i-cant-beg-osimhen-to-play-for-super-eagles/amp/

Finidi is like komekn, he only believes in players playing for big clubs, Finidi does not believe in tactics and formation to create a goal scoring team.

Finidi believes without big players like Osimhen the S.E will not score goals and that it is not his fault and responsibility if S.E does not score goals.

S.E has Umar Sadiq, Tella, Tolu Arokodare, Akor Adams, Gift Orban e.t.c but Finidi does not rate them and did not test them at all.

Shame on you for believing Finidi.. Manchester city and Arsenal played without top strikers and still score lots of goals.

Finidi is trying to blame Osimhen instead of taking responsibility for his own failure..

Osimhen has to rest.. even Lookman has to rest more because he played more games than Osimhen.

lovewins:
Yes we have a problem defensively, but we have an even bigger problem offensively.

Since the World cup qualifiers started we have played a total of 14 games and have scored a total of 14 goals. With our supposed world class attacking roster we average just one goal a game. We are struggling to score goals and the simple reason is because we've been figured out offensively.

Nigeria for the most part plays through the wings to score. Any coach worth his salt who has watched enough of our tapes will easily figure that out. Once upon a time we have skillful players like J.J (maybe Mikel) who provided options for us who could drive the ball through the middle and get some defensive attention freeing the wings a little. Now we don't have that.

South Africa and Benin just focused their defensive on Lookman and Chukwueze. The middle was the freest in both games but we had no player who could take the initiative to go through the middle. If we had explored both we probably would have scored more goals. This is where players in the mold of Eze and Olise could help.

Guess how we scored both goals? Fisayo and Onyedika through the middle.

You're not the coach and you noticed this

that means you're intelligent and also that local coaches like Finidi rely on luck and hope to win matches and S.E is in trouble with such coaches..

When I saw Onyedika's goal I thought Finidi or one of his coaches would have the intelligence of telling the players to use the wings to misdirect Benin players then pass the ball to the Penalty Arc of the Benin box and tell one of the players to roam around the penalty arc the same way Foden or De Bruyne roams there...

S.E obviously don't do offensive drills in training.. but they should at least show urgency and intent the way Super Falcons play...

Another thing is Alhassan Yusuf, Onyeka and Onyedika are meant to be starting players and un-benchable..

S.E needs DMs like Ucheibe , Deborah Abiodun and Ayinde that will chase and track players and only Onyeka, Yusuf and Nwakali mark that way... Nwakali is an abomination on this thread.

mistacoco2:
We are aware that Guinness just recently announced it exit from the country, a company that has been in operational for over 60 years in Nigeria. Just this year alone we have recorded several multinational companies leaving the country.

What could be the reason for their exiting.

Let’s share ideas.

Because they are losing money..

P&G left last year and I said the comment below to another NL user:

P&G said Nigeria is a $50m net sales country which means when they convert their sales to dollars they get $50m in 2022/2023 which means they make around N60b in sales.

Exchange rate for $$ in 2023 is around N900 - N1200 per dollar

Now divide N60b by N1200 you will get around $50m.

But in 2014 - 2015 the exchange rate for $$ was around N180 - N200.
So Let's assume they were still making N60billion in sales in 2014-2015.

Now divide the same N60b by N200 you will get around $300m.

So they went from making at least $300m per year in 2014 to making $50m per year in 2023.

If you were the owner of the company won't you close your operations.

Bazkanova:
Rubbish. Take this garbage talk to the shitty politics section.

This is what I'm saying you're already calling it rubbish even though it's fictional

Joebie:
Someone listed many factors and u are basking on tribalism. Show me one company, ministry etc that doesn’t have other tribes besides the big 3. Yes there is not tribalism in the land.

There are many companies that consists mainly of 1 tribe or at worse 2 tribes.

Many state governments consists mainly of 1 tribe.

komekn:
Unfortunately while we were in deep sleep corruption, mediocrity, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism, ineptitude, incompetence took over our NFA now NFF.

We must realise that while we were in a deep comotose sleep other nations , were wide awake building up their football ⚽ development. Andbsime have left us behind or are now able to compete.

Top level entertainment football is still being played at the highest levels.of football ⚽ just not by us sadly and UNFORTUNATELY.

Joebie:
Very true. Think Senegal.

Our stupidity will always come back to bite us. Make we continue the Owambe and tribalism

If there was corruption, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism then Finidi would have never gotten the S.E job it will be Ndubuisi Egbo that would have gotten the job..

if there was tribalism then the N.F.F will be filled with mainly Igbos, Yorubas and Hausas

if there was tribalism then the S.E would have topped the group because the Igbos, Yorubas would have done everything to ensure their foreign born players are capped.. how would Eze, Tella be invited and not capped that is madness..

if there was tribalism then the S.E would have a playing pattern because most of the players will come from one ethnic nation and would understand each other better the same way the Catalans helped Spain win the Euros and World Cup and created a playing pattern that the whole of Spain has adopted and integrated if it was Nigeria another ethnic nation would have rubbished and talked down on the pattern..

if there was tribalism then the S.E would play as a unit because most of them will come from the same academy..

the only way S.E can do well is for both government and private sector to invest in training facilities... that's the way France gets people from different cultures to blend and play well and they also maintain the Coach Deschamps that took them to finals...

You cannot get people from different cultures who don't train together often and don't have a playing and coaching pattern to dominate games they will have to play Mourinho or Simeone pattern of football..

If I pick a team based on corruption, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism and with foreign born players then my starting 11 will be:

Karim Adeyemi as LSS
Elijah Adebayo or Osimhen as CF
Lookman as CAM/SS
Saka as RW/RSS ( if he wasn't capped by england ) or Amoo regardless of his issues.
Onyedika as CM
Tijani or Onyeka as DM
Osho or Udogie as LB
Alaba as CB
Akanji or Ekong as CB
Ola Aina as RB
Okoye as GK

komekn:
Very rarely do your have players playing the traditional wing play staying out wide, sometimes you have a fusion.

Liverpool play with two inverted wingers and of anybody is going wife it's the wing back 🔙. You will constantly see Diaz , Jota , Salah even Nunez ( he struggles with this formation) coming in inverted.

Arsenal with Saka play such intricate positional interchange, it's difficult to say exactly the level of positional play. Not surprising Saka scored the most goals and had the most assists.

At the heart ❤️ of the matter is the quality of the players. Ronaldo played from the left but you wouldn't call him a traditional winger.

With regards to Ejuke would you really drop Ademola for him 😲😲

stop putting words in the TheGoodJoe mouth.. he did not say anything about dropping Lookman..

He said Ejuke should have been called up...

Any sensible person who watches football and knows player positioning well also knows that Lookman should be in a central position or make moves into the Central position he can't do that when he is on left wing and no one is helping to cover and defend the left wing..

Super Eagles formation is very easy to create unless its a sentimental coach that's coaching them...


Ejuke on the LW or Moses Simon
Boniface as Central Striker if Osimhen is not available
Chukwueze on the RW
Lookman as CAM or SS behind the striker
Iwobi as CM with license to attack so its a CAM/CM role
Onyeka as DM if Onyedika is not available
Zaidu as LB
Bassey as LCB if Ekong is not available
Ajayi as RCB if Ekong or Ndidi is not available
Ola Aina as RB
Nwabali as GK

S.E can also play with 3-5-2 or 3-5-1-1 but the wingers will have to also drop back defend which is something S.E wingers don't like doing that's why Adingra got an assist in AFCON..

3-5-1-1 or 3-3-3-1 will be

Boniface as CF

Lookman as SS
Ejuke as LW
Chukwueze as RW

Iwobi as CAM/CM
OnyeKa as DM
Onyedika as DM

Bassey as LCB
Ajayi as CB
Ola Aina as RCB

Nwabali as GK

ObaOni:
They are playing with different teammates here

Teammates don't matter it's about coaching...

Icon79:
Yup. I said exactly the same thing on Twitter. That was a clear penalty every day and twice on Sunday. And I hope that the NFF will file a petition for that missed call.

I was surprised that a game of that magnitude didn’t have VAR.

O pari

The NFF are the ones meant to provide the facilities and infrastructure for VAR and insist on VAR..

It is the incompetence of the NFF that there was no VAR in this match.

So it will be foolish of the NFF to file a petition just to hide their incompetency.

RodgersAkpafu:
Dangote is basically a multinational at this point
so 30 billion USD top line from global operations is VERY POSSIBLE

You're correct.

The person I quoted did not factor in taxes to the FG. if taxes are factored in that means D:angote refinery will make between $70 billion and $90 billion before taxes by the end of the year.

So I expect Nigeria's annual budget to triple to around ₦89 Trillion or more from ₦27 Trillion.