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cybervodoo:
Am not really an Atheist cos i believe there is a God that over see the affairs of all mankind, but if anyone can tell me why Jesus Christ is always depicted as a white man, I will start going to church again

Oh i know the answer to this one
If we go by recent scientific claims then it's safe to say that this is because he is a of a superior neander*thal lineage but perhaps they're wrong. Anyway, you can always re-paint your own jesus brown, blue, green, black or have him with all the colors of the rainbow
Now go to church already

"why does this force need to have a "good" or have a metaphysical aspect to it?  what's your definition of good?" by  bawomolo

That is just an old belief from childhood
Definition of good for me is really simple - just do right as much as you can, try to minimize or rather avoid causing other people misery .

i guess i became an atheist roughly 3 years ago but a few times my old instincts gets me and i have to say there has to be a God, if  not , then it must be a good force/energy out there looking out for the weak when it chooses to.

logic like most people here have said. Besides, look all around you and you'll see war, sufferring, injustice  and a good amount of rogues partying everyday, Now why is it that nothing happens to change this or perhaps fairy tales are just that-fairy tales.

semi religious (we celebrated christmas, did ramadan etc why?, parents had both muslim and christian background)

most repungent religion = Judaism / Christianity / Islam but who am i to judge

less repungent= traditional african religions with major modifications, budhism perhaps or some eastern religion of peace

Death is inevitable, might has well be at peace with it

Whether it's pre or post marital; this is up to each individual. Just do right and be well informed

Don't steal OK but if you really must, make sure you do it extremely big and complicated like wall street cos then you might get away with it
Don't lie
Murder of innocent or weak is very bad but murder of a wicked person or one that has killed many others and i won't be concerned. Nevertheless, murder is bad,
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There is no such thing as after-life, in fact, that's a big gamble. Enjoy this place first  .


If we do right as humans first, atheism or some religion will be practiced the right way, basically mold us to be better i think.

If the north leaves, so should the yorubas. southern nigeria yoruba/igbo - NOOOOOO way
It will only lead to more problems in the future. Yorubas do not need igbos and i'm sure igbos don't need us (yorubas).
let yoruba be and let igbo's go their own way. Please let them leave. Everyone can go and improve themselves in their own republic.

At this point, igbos can keep the frea*king oil/mend and hausa can keep whatever they want. Just let us go our own way too if it comes to that. We need to preserve our own culture.

bawomolo:
but obama was supposed to pay my mortgage and gas bill

lol
black and white americanski (all thesame)- some believe he owes them something lol.
I know he owes me a darn good living, add a mansion with a good ol flat screen TV to watch all day.

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without hard work and desire to save yourself, life is a waste

I'm sure Pres. obama goes through a whole lot already and it's probably best to stop at this point when we speak of him. That job is one of the most difficult jobs made even more difficult by the worst division in the house/senate and their agendas. He is not a miracle worker, no one is

madam L:
Forget ke? The pain is out of this world, that's why it is better 'forgotten'. Where I come from, they warn you not to scream the first time or you will scream all the way. I didn't scream but I was gradually losing it or why did I start some funny prayers? I called on all the persons in the Trinity separately and asked for help personally from each hoping one will answer if the others were busy. It was time for pushing just when I seriously started considering enlisting the help of Amadioha and I am not joking here.

lol , that's why i will choose CS anyday anytime with good pain meds.
-easy way

Tolulop001:
thats my question, i actually do the cut episiotomy [/b]and the sewing [b]episiorapphy

i had women screaming blue murder in the labour room

and when the baby comes they are so calm and contented

ma mum says when u see your baby u forget all about the pain and wanna have another

All moms say that lol ; how can one possibly forget the horror  .

Tolulop001:
this is a very good topic _{and i may be doing some derailing here ma bad}

im a doctor and ive seen childbirth both ways LIVE and mehn! that natural birth is extremely scary

CS looks like an easy way out.

plus for most ladies that have natural they have to get a really nasty cut down there

ive sewn up a couple and generally it doesnt look like it can ever be the same

so erm . . .does it ever go back to being the same after the nasty cut?

real answers pls this could be life changing for me lol

episiotomy procedure  is nasty lol, However,  they can actually sew it back lol, now i don't know if it's thesame lol but it's probably close enough i guess

p.s  madam L the cut is called episiotomy not epidural. epidural is the drug injection in the back.

"Please tell me this is something you copied from somewhere and pasted here? "

No sir, no i did not copy, i'm not a fan of copying things


"Women tend to have narrow hips? I think you will find that your statement is not always true. Also, women have mechanism in place to allow the head of the baby to come through. From the top of my head, one of them is the soft skull of the baby that moulds (to some extent) to the shape of the pelvic region, so your point is false".

hmmm, you ommited something at the begining of the sentence, "some women", not "women" ha and your point doesn't make mine false . Ok that soft skull is made up of bones with fontanels that haven't fused together yet and we agree that this must pass through the pelvic region but what if it doesn't fit after your idea of mould?, this will lead to a dramatic tear if a cut is not made right away.

"Do you mind elaborating on this one please. "

use your imagination 

"Not true. Total lies. I am forced to ask you if you've ever had a child before? If you haven't, loads of people here will tell you that your statement is misleading.
Again, this is misleading, have you never heard of the umbilical cord? Almost anything from the mum can pass through to the baby"

Nutrients passes through the umbilical cord but  if mom has chlamydia or herpes simplex 2, it  can lead to premature rupture of membranes in other words water break. In which case the baby might not be infected until it passes through the v*a*ginal canal, this can lead to chlamydia trachomatis, neonatal eye infection and so on. Now don't get me started on HIV and how Csection can reduce the risk of vertical transmission from mother to child.


"In most cases, a forceps is not needed to help with getting the head out. Most birth goes well without result to such need. Again, your statement is misleading."

No yours is misleading, it's More like some birth do and some birth's don't .

chaircover:
coldheart, I am sorry to say but you are misinformed. However if and when you get the t-shirt come back and talk to us.

BTW there is nothing an anesthetic can do regarding pain in the weeks post op; its not as if you are going to have an epidural stuck to your back everyday for 3 weeks  . . . . . .and oh Yes strong pain killers do have side efects and are probably out of bounds for mothers who choose to bre.ast feed their babies anyway.

. . . .and I'm glad you used the phrase healed up! before "healed up" happens nko?

Yes C/S is the safest method for some medical conditions & emergencies but not for some of the reasons you state.

BTW what medical experience do you have & lets take it from there?

My reaction to your first statement   you're kidding me right

You are starting to make this too personal, why don't we treat it as an opinion on Nl. In the mean time, read up on CS, also it heals up in 4 to 8 weeks and like i said earlier, it is barely visible even when you wear bikini's.
Now stop this misinformation/ fear mongering, the pain killers used are relatively safe and does not deter mom from breastfeeding at ALL, it is not out of bounds oooo . For the rest of your question, reread my earlier post.

Now with this, i rest my case as i have seen that you have little idea about what you speak of. have a great day , sorry if i pissed you off though, we can agree to disagree right

stillwater:
It's the easiest one I'll choose o. Seems natural is winning.

No they're not winning, i'm just outnumbered here that's all, plus i have limited time, i will reply as many as i can, you  just wait  
keep up with the scores

ps rokiatu, thanks, you have a wonderful sense of humor too

rokiatu:
I didn't ask whether you are an ugly female or a cute female. Anyway just shocked at your replies.

Are you a nurse? or a midwifery? How did you come come to such a ridiculous conclusion that all females get cut doing natural birth?

What , you can't stand the fact that i'm a cute girl , that's ok lol
I didn't say all women get cut, in fact i remember saying that it is not the norm meaning that it doesn't always happen. Now given the probability that it does happen, it might be best to opt out for CS lol if one had that choice and that's not the only reason for CS. Let's not make this into a personal conversation, let's simply treat it as an opinion

rokiatu:
Coldhearts, are you male or female?

cute female why? should it really matter but then agian this is nl

"Sorry but I don’t agree with most of what you said here. There is no evidence to suggest that lovemaking feels any different after a woman has gone through a natural birth. There are lots of pelvic floor exercises that help to put things back into order".

I don't agree with your opinion either, sex can suck very much after natural birth because of the cut made to expand the v*a*gina during the procedure and many men would often keep quiet about this- agree or not, i could care less. Some women even go through the trouble or resewing the area back together. Now, i'm not saying this is the norm.

"Who says natural births are more painful than sections? I suggest you give yourself a deep 6 inch cut in your pelvic region and see whether you feel pain. Remember you are cutting through skin, fat, muscle and into the uterus. You have to heal through layers and layers we are not talking about a superficial cut you get when shaving with a razor".

You are either in severe denial here or misinformed, i rest my case. there is anesthetics for pain you know plus it's a small incision when done right; you can barely notice it around the bikini line after it has healed up.

"Re the sex transmitted diseases; yes a CS is a safer alternative to a natural delivery but what is the percentage of women who actually fall into this category?"

Glad you are at least aware of this , perhaps you can go ahead and do a report on this or better yet just google it . A huge percentage of women worldwide have STD's and i'm sure nigerian women are not excluded

"Not all natural deliveries require forceps or clamps or even tears or cuts and in actual fact the passage of the head of the baby through the birth canal actually helps shape the head".

[b][/b]Agreed

Natural childbirth is one of the things that mother nature intended and in my opinion only in medical emergencies or for other medical reasons should C/S be opted for.
[b][/b]I guess you are much in tuned with that mysterious mother nature, how dare humans go and make alternative choices like the C-section
Going through a major operation no be beans anywhere in the world.
[b][/b]Again how dare humans, now do us all a favor and stop the fear mongering,  there's pros and cons to everything and same goes for natural birth and C-section.  My debating this with you doesn't change the fact that women with narrow hips/ those with std or even normal women should prepare themselves mentally for a C-section when pregnant cos you never know.

C-section is most preferred for many reasons, a few are

1. C-section is better because some women tend to have narrow hips/os (especially young or skinny nigerian women);therefore natural delivery becomes difficult. It is difficult because the baby's head can't pass through easily leading to a last minute cut to make the place wider; which can further lead to more complications

  a. The risk of the last minute cut from natural delivery can lead to urinary problems and/or excruciating pain during sex in the first few weeks/ months after birth

  b. Sex is never thesame after natural delivery cos that area becomes less tight Basically if you like sex and you want to remain as tight as a teenager, stay clear of natural birth lol

2. In case of some Sexually transmitted diseases, the disease is quickly passed on from mother to child during natural birth. With a C-section, the risk of passing it is much more rare since it a quick  "get in and take baby out" process.

3. The baby's head doesn't get squeesh nor does it have to be pulled out with an instrument which sqeeshes it; besides the C-section is a less painful process.

Godson007:
bros i dey feel u jor, but dis one child parole no go work, some men stil no like condom 4 naija. With regards d country splittin, am sugestin we al divide based on our geo-political locations/equality.

it's not bro lol, just an ordinary girl who wants peace in her forefather's land.

to answer your comment,  those men can have a vasectomy done or face govt job loss etc,  Education should be prioritized above all plus more women in high political positions.

I'd prefer that we don't split, in fact we should be uniting with chad, niger/ benin etc and forming a strong empire at this point. Instead, our leaders are choking us with their own version of democracy/debt and sidon look attitude. Even zambia, Ghana and  so on are begining to look like heaven compared to Nigeria.

Geopolitical loc. split - not sure . I swear sometimes i get the feeling that some of our leaders hate the people/country .

Both MEND and BOKO H. need to be SHOT , no more mercy. Many people want peace but these losers seem to be ruining it.

Better yet, let everyone go their way. Igbo's should go home with oil, i hear it's nice in igbo land especially with the new airport in Enugu. Hausa should go home and keep the FCT. Let everybody go to their home already; Govt cannot or rather will not solve the problem!

while we are at it, we should adopt a one child rule (maximum two) since there are not enough jobs for every graduate.

ALL HAIL "black" giant   lol
Since when do we use the word "black". "Black "is only used by americans as far as my travelling goes, not in naija. We are called NIgerians, pls don't be too lazy to use the proper word (i know the word might be too long and difficult for some ). Anyway, carry on, try the word "africa", it's relatively easier lol . Perhaps "black" giant is entertaining for a few but then it borders on ignorance as well. This is not to pick on anyone so pls don't be offended, just stating the obvious.

I luv my country but i wonder if our leaders luv nigeria
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a little girl once told me "there's no such thing as white people". I asked her "what do you mean?", she said "well i've never seen anyone that looks like the paper i'm writing on". i didn't dare ask about black . we are all just humans.

kabukabu50 posted his car pic/self
www.nairaland.com/attachments/334476_me_and_my_ferrari__dont_hate__jpg7b66b2c743d53c903db3c8159d301e8b

lmao at the do not touch sign.
[quote][/quote]lol, still lol~ing, oops can't stop lol~ing. made my day  . No further reply necessary lol~ing away

If GEJ words are marked with actions, he will have my vote. No one should suffer like Nigerians have on this earth lol and yet we blame no one but ourselves.

Everybody deserves a chance, hopefully he takes the opportunity to be a great leader .


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while some black americans blame white for their problems, the whites blame the chinese (or currency), who should the chinese blame? lol. Maybe it's time for people to take responsibility for their own misfortunes, this blame game is getting old

ok the post has digressed and getting a bit more weird .
Americans work hard , which america are you in , oh maybe the person meant that the immigrants in america work hard to survive (i.e European immigrants, african and chinese immigrants)  .
Yes Nigeria has strike but America has schools so why are they performing so terribly besides some Americans don't attend college nor are they interested in learning anything (this is not to say that college is the only path to success).  
There's no motivation for sucess unfortunately and when social security and those benefits get unplugged then they'd be in real trouble.
Also why is it that when they finally force themselves to attend college at an older age, they have many excuses for skipping classes or dragging their pants half down while coming to class or continuously arguing with the professor even when proven wrong. Anyway sha.
If Nigerians had that opportunity, you won't see people skipping classes lol because Nigerians are never lazy (hardworking).

john_blaze:
on the other hand I think the poster is making alot of sense, I quite agree with his closing statement when he stated that there is need for Africa to strengthen its trade ties with emerging countries in the east like china,russia,india and brazil, the world is now a global village and africa shouldnt be left out.

i concur~

The question should be why is America cursed? the other question is why are they so fat even when young, that's ok they can have my share of food anytime  .

Like i said earlier, it is their prerogative

texazzpete:
You need to read more international news then. Walking out to express disapproval is not new. The Arab nations do it infrequently especially when Israel and palestine is up for discussion.
This is not a brothel. Do you expect them to engage in shouting matches? When someone make such a ludicrous accusation, accusing a country of slaughtering 3000 of some of their brightest people, what do you expect them to do?

I know that walking out is not new but they could  have listened especially since they show excessive concern about Iran. Coexisting with one another often requires listening on both parties especially when it's uncomfortable. One can call his 9/11 comment a conspiracy but that doesn't remove the doubts that continually surrounds that day, eitherway, that's only a limited part of the speech.
Also did all of EU have to play sheeple? (simply follow along, have they not got a mind of their own?) - talk of group mentality displayed by the leaders.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/23/911-conspiracy-theory-not-as-popular-as-ahmadinejad-says/?ref=world

If it isn't true, they shouldn't walk out then .  Arrogance was displayed by simply walking out during that speech, anyway, that's their own prerogative .

is it time to vote jonathan out yet  .
Africom huh; i may not understand much but this agreement smells foul .

Our educational system has it's own faults, however, it cannot be discredited because it has given rise to a lot of quiet/disciplined and successful nigerians (docs, engineers etc) at home and beyond. For inovation/scientist we definitely need more resources and teacher training.
But note that in places where they have it all, some of their kids do more poorly than a nigerian kid with barely much at same grade level. They don't have the willingness to learn compared to the average Nigerian kid, oh well

Anyway, i wouldn't judge us by the nobel prizes.

montelik:
Abeg the old man slipped up and spoke what we all know to be true  . Now that it has been picked up and exaggerated by the press, he is trying to deny. Abeg, a better excuse would be that he made a loose or incomplete remark 

darn it, you must have been there but you know what - i wasn't there
Anyway,  it seems rather strange that he'd say communism but eitherway, whatever the guy says won't put garri on my table  . Goodluck finding out who is right and who is wrong 

@cap28,
oh my goodness, you have some extreme views (note - not all, just some). I'm sorry to say but people can't all go around blaming others for their misery ok. life is full of it besides It's completely pathetic to do that  .
I do hope you realize that at the end of the day white, black, yellow are all thesame. Life is a freaking game to some, perhaps that's the reason we got ripped off not to mention greed. However, it's no reason for so much hate, otherwise ,you'd waste most of your life hating people and feeling miserable - much like those people in the white only cult oops sorry i said that.
We can only seek to do better with what we know now and maybe change the future course . Besides, the so called westerners will eventually out do themselves if they continue down the path of madness, they forget they have nukes and so do many other countries that disagree with them.
Anyway enough said.

bidemi12:
Are you sure you are current with what is happening with the Nigerian employment/industrial situation?

yes but your point is??