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Williamso:
It doesn't literally start with you and I as I'm not based in Abia ..
But on a serious note, whether he rigs or not, people will vote for him. That's how politics is played in Nigeria. Sad but true...

Nigerians voting sentimentally since 1960!

There is no candidate that people don't vote for, but how many votes will he get?
APGA's Alex Otti will win Abia with such an overwhelming majority that rigging will be impossible.

It is obvious APGA has captured Abia, there is no 2 ways about it.
Abia MUST be better.
Dr. Alex Otti, here we go!

berem:
Lolz! don't worry, she used to have a shop there but not anymore. Just confirmed from my cousin.

Bomb last in Yobe, Your aunty's uncle is there.
Boko haram capatures mubi, your neighbour's inlaw is there.
Fire outbreak in Lagos, your aunty's shop is there.
Mass ritual killing in Ibadan, sister's uncle is there.
Na wa from you o.

berem:
My aunty has a shop at the market o! Make I call my cousin to confirm.

Chai!!

As usual.......

tbaba1234:
I think, it is written in English.

i. The BH group escalated as a result of abuse by security forces.

ii. The suggestion was to understand the roots of the crisis and seek a solution which could involve a mix of guns and other non violent methods.

That is based on my understanding of the crisis at the time.

I also think the successes of Ihejirika are been overrated, Boko Haram started pushing back in his own tenure.

1. By abuse you mean being dealt with decisively by the military. Killing a group of people who kill innocent citizens for no just cause, to you is abuse.
What does the ''violence begets violence'' in that quote mean?
The military carrrying out their constitutional duties by crushing a rebel group is what you term violence?
2. By ''non-violent'' methods you mean dialogue which you clearly stated in that post, isn't that what the government is currently doing by trying to talk then into a ceasefire? Why are you complaining now? You don't want dialogues anymore, I guess.

Your understanding of the crisis at that time which was in tandem with that of most northern elders and politicians is why the insurgency has ecalated to what it is now, I am sorry you have to live with it because it is already too late.
All you need to do now is to accept responsibility for the role you played in allowing this problem get to the level it is now.

Yes Boko haram started pushing back in Ihejirika's tenure because of those of you who were accusing him of high handedness amd genocide in dealing with a bunch of killers, he had to soft pedal a bit which gave them the chance to push back. The present Army Chief has perfected the act of treating then with kids glove, which is what you and most prominent northerners wers asking for.
Enjoy the monster you nurtured.

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tbaba1234:
That was not the only thing said on that thread, was it?



The kind of abuse as above.

I don't have the patience for diversions.
Tell us exactly what you meant by the below at a time when the Nigerian Army led by Gen. ihejirija were decisivelt dealing with boko haram.

tbaba1234:
There are always two sides to a story; Boko Haram justifies their actions by claiming the high-handedness of security on their members pushed them to the edge.

The truth is that the situation could have been handled much better by the security agencies. Violence begets violence. This is how the Jos story degenerated, one group attacks and the other retaliates till we have a situation that we can not control.

No one is saying the group has not gone beyond the limits. If you do not know the roots of a problem, how can you find a solution?

Their grievances were borne out of a sense of injustice. Their methods of expressing their grievances are distasteful but at least we have an understanding of how it all began.

The war against the group will not be won by guns alone, somehow there has to be some kind of dialogue as well.

tbaba1234:
I am not talking about civilian casualties, i am talking about abuses.

And it has nothing to do with religion. Up till today, Igbos complain about the abuses of the Nigerian Army in Biafra and rightly so. Let us be sincere with ourselves.

Really? What abuses were you talking about below?

tbaba1234:
There are always two sides to a story; Boko Haram justifies their actions by claiming the high-handedness of security on their members pushed them to the edge.

The truth is that the situation could have been handled much better by the security agencies. Violence begets violence. This is how the Jos story degenerated, one group attacks and the other retaliates till we have a situation that we can not control.

No one is saying the group has not gone beyond the limits. If you do not know the roots of a problem, how can you find a solution?

Their grievances were borne out of a sense of injustice. Their methods of expressing their grievances are distasteful but at least we have an understanding of how it all began.

The war against the group will not be won by guns alone, somehow there has to be some kind of dialogue as well.

tbaba1234:
I would still talk against abuses. The Nigerian Army and Boko Haram should not be competing over who commits the worst abuse.

Unprofessionalism is what happened is some of those places like Bama where so many homes were scorched.

There are far better ways to fight.

So if you think, there should be no regard for innocent civilians, we can never agree.

We will agree on the fact that BH should be crushed but I choose efficiency in doing that.

Yeah can you tell us the magic formula the military can use in flusing out boko haram without any civilian casualty? Especially with all the hostages and residents of their captured towns.

The Nigerian army led by another Chief of Army staff are now abiding by the ''rules of engagement'' as you advised why are you complaining now?
Hahaha

tbaba1234:
There are rules of engagement, the soldier must abide by those rules.. The issue here is not about boko haram, it is about the innocents been murdered by those paid to protect them. If civilians have been murdered indiscriminately, it has to be investigated.

Tbaba what about this one?
What exactly do you islamists want?
You brought this upon yourselves.

tbaba1234:
There are always two sides to a story; Boko Haram justifies their actions by claiming the high-handedness of security on their members pushed them to the edge.

The truth is that the situation could have been handled much better by the security agencies. Violence begets violence. This is how the Jos story degenerated, one group attacks and the other retaliates till we have a situation that we can not control.

No one is saying the group has not gone beyond the limits. If you do not know the roots of a problem, how can you find a solution?

Their grievances were borne out of a sense of injustice. Their methods of expressing their grievances are distasteful but at least we have an understanding of how it all began.

The war against the group will not be won by guns alone, somehow there has to be some kind of dialogue as well.

God bless General Ihejirika

Tbaba come and tell me what exactly you Islamists want. Have you forgotten this?

tbaba1234:
This is the most disgraceful thread, i have come across in a long time...

Anyone who condones the action of the JTF is as bad as boko haram.

JTF are apparently killing innocent people, chasing them out their homes and some people are backing it because it is particular tribe of people...

Blaming elders for calling against the murder of their people is silly... The Nigerian security operatives should have an intelligence unit that helps them infiltrate the group network... Killing innocent people will help Boko Haram more than it will help Nigeria.. Emotion is their most effective tool of recruitment.

We know how heavy handed the Nigerian Army can be;

May God be will the suffering people of Yobe, borno and plateau.

God bless General Ihejirika

So you want GEJ to fight boko haram now?
Have you forgotten threads like the below from Islamists like you and Maclatunji when Ihejirika was dealing with them mercilessly?
Can you guys ever be satisfied?
They Kill them you cry genocide, they treat them with kid gloves, you call the govt weak.
What exactly do you want?
www.nairaland.com/1310083/civilians-among-dead-nigeria-offensive

LordMecuzy:
I HAD NO SHOES

I took a loan to buy nomination form

This must be Aba in Alaba.
Not Fashola's Lagos

They will find nothing on the great General Ihejirika.
Oh, how the people of the north east miss him

Coal Coal Coal Coal Coal is the answer!

Go figure

Is ''all'' no longer fair in war?

All is fair in war, isn't it?