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Mr man, since u don't have evidence for what u are saying except posting edited picture can u pls can u pls tell us the real age of Saul when he became king .


1SAMUEL 13:1

New International Version

Saul was thirty years [/b]old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.


[b]American Standard Version
Saul was [ forty ] years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,



JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years [/b]old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

This tanakh version even put nil years old there grin



New Heart English Bible
Saul [b]was ? years old when he began to reign; and he reigned forty years over Israel.

TenQ:
Why is Surah 115 and Surah 116 not in the Hafs Quran commonly used in Nigeria?


Muslims would want everybody to believe that there is only one Arabic Quran. Unfortunately, the standard Islamic Narrations has been found to be complete lies to deceive both Muslims and non-Muslims.

When you show them that there are two MAJOR Arabic Qurans in existence "the Hafs Quran" and the "Warsh Quran", they say that the difference is just in pronunciation ANOTHER LIE!

Today, I want to bring to you the fact that Muslims do not want you to know that some Arabic Qurans Have Surah 115 and Surah 116 (Surat al-Khal and Surat al-Hafd)

To avoid any controversy, Ill post these two surahs here for all to see.


Attachment 1: Surat al-khal
Attachment 2: Surat al-Hafd

AntiChristian:
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:

1. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?
2. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?


How many other lies is the islamic narrative hiding?

Mr man, bring the hafs Quran u are talking about and snap it with your camera to confirm the shi.t u talking about

advocatejare:
Have you tried eating Ajwa date and test your prophet’s claim that poison won’t harm you?

Sahih al-Bukhari 5779
Narrated Sa`d:
I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying, "Whoever takes seven 'Ajwa dates in the morning will not be effected by magic or poison on that day."

well it is Hadith and I can reject it if doesn't work,cos that means it is not the prophet that said it but u can't reject the Bible verse cos u believe it is from God.

So ibo men has inherited girls brutality from their ibo wives?

PrincessofDSS:


So the pastor’s faith is not up the mustard seed..? You were the one that said it

You don’t have enough faith,” Jesus told them. “I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it would move. Nothing would be impossible.

Matthew 17:20

PrincessofDSS:
At least to speed up the ransom payment.

Bible said call me in the days of trouble, Pastor why were calling the church members instead calling on God

they don't have faith like mustard seed na

Why wasting the 100m naira on something they can pray on top?


Jesus said whatever u ask in my name would be done.


And I will do whatever you ask in My name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son,If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.

John 14:13-14



If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

John 15:7

I thought they said these people are fulani masquerading as Igbo?

naijapikin2:
whatever... Bye

bye too

2braithe:
Your fellow boko haram/iswap that are dying in the hands of soldiers,why can't your imam wake them up?

which imam did u see claiming he can wake up dead,cure sickness?

Is the not the pastors boasting of miracles?

advocatejare:
Stop your melodrama, give me my answer.

How long is Allah's day?
One thousand years?:
"Yet they ask thee to hasten on the Punishment! But Allah will not fail in His Promise. Verily a Day in the sight of thy Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning."
Quran 22:47


Fifty thousand years?:
"The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years:"
Quran 70:4

since u did ignore my question I asked first,then I will let u be then

Bye

naijapikin2:
save your breath, Tinubu will never rule this nation, naija is not eko. Let him continue being a kingmaker. He can be selecting for the nation but not himself. But wait o... How much him pay you Use the money well o..

nigga that is your m-therfvckin opinion.

I prefer tinubu than osibanjo rccg bigot ass

advocatejare:
How long is Allah's day?
One thousand years?:
"Yet they ask thee to hasten on the Punishment! But Allah will not fail in His Promise. Verily a Day in the sight of thy Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning."
Quran 22:47


Fifty thousand years?:
"The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years:"
Quran 70:4

why u acting like I never asking u any question?

If u are in public debate,Is that what u are going to do?

So sad

advocatejare:
Answer this simple question:

Can Allah’s word change or not?

woli advocatejare


No be me first ask u question?


And u do as if I Never I ask u question.

I've already told u I will answer all what you called contradictions when u answer my question.

So,how old was Saul?

? Years old or ___ years old?

advocatejare:
Can Allah’s word change or not?

evangelist

Why u using question to ask question?

Ok was Saul ? Years when he began to reign?

advocatejare:
Can Allah’s word change or not?

u know I ask u questions first and I expect an answer,so answer me and I will answer u .

How old was Saul when he became king


? Years old or --- years old?

naijapikin2:
We know what is at play in this nation today. It has to be a Christian president. Infact a Christian southerner. When it's the turn of the north then they can select a Christian northerner. Simple

nigga it is turn of Muslim south and it is tinubu.

chloride6:
Everything is wrong with a Muslim Muslim to ticket.

Nigerian Leadership should be a reflection of the characteristics of the Nigerian People. A situation where Christians have no representation at the highest levels is unacceptable.

Plus, it marks the beginning of the end of Christian influence in Nigeria. Infact you can see this is a continuation of the gradual weakening of the Christian resolve in Nigeria. States like Kaduna that used to be sure of deputy governor no longer even have them. If we start this trend in the presidency, we will not like the outcome.

Also it is extremely selfish for the Muslim community in Nigeria to even think about the presidency after 8 years, are you trying to subjugate the Christians in Nigeria?

A vote for Muslim in 2023 will eventually lead to 24 years of Muslim rule in Nigeria (8 years Buhari, 8 years southern Muslim, follow up 8 years Northern Muslim) which may be followed up by another 8 years of another Muslim.

when are amadhia and sango people going to rule or they not Nigerians again?

Dtruthspeaker:
Did I say any thing about Adam and Eve sin?

I said "past sin". Specifically, your own wickedness and evil and sin which you did and are guilty of before you started listening to Christ and complying with what He Said.

Throughout the Bible, NO MAN WAS EVER CONDEMNED BY ADAM AND EVE'S SIN, THEY WERE ALL CONDEMNED BY THEIR OWN DOINGS AND THEIR OWN SINS.

So, your past sin is those you yourself did with your own hands and soul.



Yes! And every man has sinned and sins BUT THEY HAVE A CHOICE TO CHOOSE TO LIVE WITH THEIR SINS TO DEATH OR CHOOSE TO HAVE THEIR SINS WIPED OUT AND LIVE NONE-SIN, TO OBTAIN LIFE EVERLASTING.

Paul told us that it was because of Adam and Eve sin that we inherited that was the reason why Jesus died for us!


Or was Paul lying?


Romans 5:12-21
New International Version

Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ

12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man,and death through sin,and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned

13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law.
14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam,who is a pattern of the one to come.

15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man,how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ,overflow to the many!

16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.

17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.

19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more

21 so that, just as sin reigned in death,(S) so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

advocatejare:
So are you more knowledgeable in Islam than them?

cos they human like me.

advocatejare:
Does evil come from Allah or not?

nigga was Saul ? Years or -- when he became king?




Answer or u ain't trust Bible again?

advocatejare:
Those that are more knowledgeable than you in Islam graded a hadith as Sahih but you an ignoramus is here claiming that a Sahih hadith is fake

knowledgeable than me?

How u know that?

advocatejare:
Explain what to me? They are self explanatory, your Quran says that it is clear enough. Does it say that it needs someone to explain it to you?

Quran 26:2
These are the verses of the clear Book.

Those are the contradictions in your Quran that means the Quran even failed his own standard of saying that if it has contradictions in it, then it’s not from Allah!

Do they not ponder over the Qur’an? Had it been from other than Allah, surely they would have found many contradictions in it.
-Quran 4:82

And there are many of those contradictions

how old was Saul when he became King?

I see u are trying to dogde the question

They don't need donation

Jesus has already said, whatever u ask in his name would be done!

Zonefree:
Mane is coming to replace you.

problem is mane is deadly in wing than center

SenatePresdo:
Lewandowski is bigger than all Arsenal players (Dead or Alive) joined together.

shut your niggas ass up!

He is not bigger than theirry Henry

Dtruthspeaker:
True. But the perfection of the completion of eternal life is the purging and the Removal of all past sins.

Sin-none-ness (Holiness) is the Qualification for eternal life.

And if a soul has learnt to stop sinning, which is what Christ taught, he would still be guilty for his past unremoved sins and that would make him qualified to be an inmate of Lake of Fire.

ain't no past sin,how the fvck I'm I concern with Adam and Eve sin?

Their sins has nothing to do with me

New International Version


“In those days people will no longer say, ‘The parents have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge

Jeremiah 32:29


If u sin and u die in your sin,Jesus will never save u

advocatejare:
I don’t need to give you any version because all your translators are liars like Allah. Go and check the meaning of makir


Let’s examine the Quran:

Does evil come from Allah?
Yes:
.... If some [b ]good[/b] befalls them, they say "This is from Allah". But if evil, they say "This is from thee" (O prophet). Say: "All things are from Allah....
Quran 4:78

No:
Whatever good, (O man!) happens to thee, is from Allah. But whatever evil happens to thee, is from thyself. But what has come to these people. That they fail to understand a single fact
Quran 4:79


Did Noah's son survive the great flood?
Yes:
(Remember) Noah, when he cried (to Us) aforetime: We listened to his (prayer) and delivered him and his family from great distress.
Quran 21:76

Yes
And We made his offspring the survivors.
Quran 37:77


No:
The son replied: "I will betake myself to some mountain: it will save me from the water." Noah said: "This day nothing can save, from the command of Allah, any but those on whom He hath mercy! "And the waves came between them, and the son was among those overwhelmed in the Flood.
Quran 11:43


Was Jonah cast on the shore?
Yes:
Then We cast him on a desert shore while he was sick .
Quran 37:145

No
Had not Grace from his Lord reached him, he would indeed have been cast off on the naked shore while he was reprobate
Quran 68:49


Abrogation; does Allah change his words?
No:
For them are glad tidings, in the life of the present and in the Hereafter; no change can there be in the words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme felicity.
Quran 10:64

Yes
None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?
Quran 2:106

you want to to explain the verses to u right?


Oya the one I posted first, explain it.


How old was Saul?

advocatejare:
There is no Islam without the Hadith. That means you are saying that Islam is fake

with authentic one not the fake, fabricated and weak

advocatejare:
It shows Muhammad to be unstable minded. He didn’t even obey the rules me made

it shows your dumb ass that the Hadith is nothing but fake.

That sounds like Yahweh law of stoning people not in Islam.

advocatejare:
That was what Aisha your mother in Islam said and recorded the early Muslims who are more pious that you wannabe[quote author=advocatejare post=113300927]mumu

Just because who told u all early Muslims are pious?



[quote author=advocatejare post=113300927]In the house of false prophet Muhammad sheep are paper. The same false prophet that told you that Satan sleeps in your nostrils at night, the same false prophet that did ablution with filthy water where dead dogs and menstrual rags were dumped, the same false prophet that imagined to have done what he didn’t do.

and I asked u sheep in your baba house eat paper?

advocatejare:
And Muhammad stoned adulterers to death

nah nigga that is Yahweh law not Islamic.



Leviticus 24:16


Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him. The sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.





Deuteronomy 22:23-24 ESV


“If there is a betrothed virgin, and a man meets her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbor's wife. So you shall purge the evil from your midst




That is what Yahweh your so called god The father introduced not in Islam

advocatejare:
He has scribes that we’re copying for him and he also learnt things from Christians and Jews, the most prominent among them was Jabr

He copied to these right?


Exodus 31:15 ESV

Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death.


And


Deuteronomy 21:18-21 ESV


“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

advocatejare:
Your translators are liars like Allah that was why they changed the word deceive to plan.

mākirīna is from (مَكْر [makr] ) which means cunning, deceptive, guile.

Go and find out what makr means in Arabic

hehehehe makr meaning is more than that.

Now I ask u which version of Quranic translation u see deceit?

advocatejare:
God didn't promise Jerusalem of unconditional peace, he promised to keep them safe and secure as long as they serve only him, desist from sins and stay away from idols. When Israel failed in their part, they got the consequences. God destroyed other people because of sins, he wouldn't tolerate sins from Israel, so there's no deceit there

so Jeremiah is lying against Yahweh be that?

Or Jeremiah word was a lie?

advocatejare:
Yahweh didn’t deceive them, he promised to give Jerusalem peace if the people desist from committing sins but they didn’t, so they didn’t have peace. That is not deceit

so deceit in that verse is lie?

advocatejare:
And Yahweh never pride himself as the best of the deceivers, the title of Satan. Allah is Satan the deceiver.

u just want to defend your Yahweh the Father of deceiver so bad


Ezekiel 14:9

And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

advocatejare:
Allah is Satan that lead people astray

"Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to Taghut, while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 60)

َََََََََََََُُُُُُُّّٰ

Allah’s wish like that of Satan is to make everyone go to hellfire

"And if We had willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me will come into effect [that] I will surely fill Hell with jinn and people all together."
(QS. As-Sajda 32: Verse 13)

how is those verse related?


Well Yahweh did what u said Satan did,he did it to pharaoh

But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had spoken to Moses

Exodus 9 : 12

advocatejare:
Why then was Muhammad ashamed of himself by begging his wife not to expose his atrocities?

what atrocities?

The fact that the Hadith is lame but what actrocities?

Moses did it,no actrocities
Solomon, David, Samuel did,no actrocities,why is it that the prophet Muhammed did it now it is actrocities?

advocatejare:
Nigga you don’t understand simple English. A man was caught raping a slave girl on his wife’s bed and he was begging the wife not to expose him like Yoruba will say that Muhammad was begging Hafsa “pa mi sile, ma pami sita “ that is the meaning of being caught pant down!

raping?

So that means the verses where Yahweh said we can sleep with our female slave is actually raping?

advocatejare:
How many of them were caught raping their slaves girl on their wives’ bed and had to beg the wife not to expose them?

so u mean they were raping their female slaves before without being caught?

advocatejare:
He was a pervert who didn’t honour his wife by raping a slave on her bed

is there any Bible verse that prohibited us from smashing our female slave of our wife bed?

Is the wife that built the house?

advocatejare:
Anything that exposes your false religion is what you say is unreliable. Your ahadith were compiled and written by Muslims so you can’t lie that they are enemies of Islam

well sebi me I denied most Hadith cos it is either fake,weak and unreliable,can u do the same to your so called word of God?

Now answer this then
How old was Saul when he became king?

1SAMUEL 13:1

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.


American Standard Version
Saul was[b] [ forty ] years old [/b]when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,



JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years [/b]old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

This tanakh version even put nil years old there

New Heart English Bible
Saul [b]was? years old when he began to reign; and he reigned forty years over Israel.


Nigga what? this version out ? Years old,so pathetic.


So which version is the correct one?